RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then apply it. -Original Message- From: Ragnar Hanås [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's translation of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing loss of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case). I consulted the following two resources: http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont- want-a-plain-round-bullet.html http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html These should get you on the path. Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book. I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that. That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well. Good luck! Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Hi Framers, I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2). The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets for Greater Than or Equal To (GTE). The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to Symbol font. [Ctrl][q] [3] = GTE (this produces a small box) or [Alt][0179]= GTE (this works) [Ctrl][q] [#] = LTE (this works) or [Alt][0163]= LTE (this works) Problem: [Ctrl][q] [3] == S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font [Alt][0179]== superscript 3, and also GTE in Symbol font In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in Symbol font. Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using [Ctrl][q] [3]. While the ASCII character work-around is available, I am concerned with opening FM7.2 documents in FM9. Will previously created GTE characters be lost? This is important because we are just beginning to use FM9, and all of our previous FrameMaker documents were created with FM7.2. I have opened a book of files (created with FM7) in FM9, updated the entire book and saved all files. Then I checked the GTE characters, and they looked fine. Trying to add additional GTE symbols resulted in the same problem when using [Ctrl][q] [3]. This seems to indicated that the GTE symbols are safe, but I am suspicous of this new behavior and seek assurances. My system: Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 Version 9.0p230 Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2 Dell Intel Core2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz 3.25 GB RAM Is anyone else experiencing this same behavior with FM9 ? We are a small group of tech writers, and we are all experiencing the same behavior of FM9. Thanks for your help and opinions. Ed DeRosier Senior Technical Writer Anritsu Company edward.deros...@anritsu.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jim.pink...@voith.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
Recall: Deleting Empty Paragraphs
Orly Zimmerman would like to recall the message, Deleting Empty Paragraphs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Deleting Empty Paragraphs
Scratch That, Even though it finds the tables, it actually leaves them intact when searching and replacing this way. Go figure :) === HI All, I'm trying to delete empty paragraphs from a file I imported from Word. A simple \P\p or ^\p in the find box using wildcards does fine, except if my empty para is an anchor para with a table anchor in it. It seems FM doesn't see the table anchor. I have a script that deletes empty paras as well, but that left me with empty paras that were a level 3 or 4 Heading. And yes, I already did a MIF wash. Any ideas? Thanks, Orly. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Some links in PDF don't work
Thanks, Stuart, for your suggestions, but neither creating named destinations nor having all book files open made a difference. I admit I didn't spend much time experimenting with Distiller settings, but the first thing I tried didn't produce working links. And by that time one of my colleagues took a chapter file back to .txt and reapplied the styles, resulting in a chapter that had working links. So that's what we'll be doing with this book. Thanks for trying to help, Beverly -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:13 PM To: Beverly Robinson Cc: Post Framers Subject: Re: Some links in PDF don't work On 08/06/2011 2:41 PM, Beverly Robinson wrote: Windows XP SP3, TCS2 (FrameMaker 9.0p255, Acrobat Extended Pro 9.4.4, Distiller 9.4.2220), FrameMaker 8.0p277 Our service manuals have a main TOC and chapter TOCs on the first page of each chapter. The chapter TOC is generated by selecting Special | Table of Contents and then inserting the resulting .TOC file by reference into the first page of the chapter file. The problem book was started in English FrameMaker v8, saved back to v7 to use as boilerplate in French FrameMaker v7. When the files were returned to us in the US, we opened them in FrameMaker v8 again and added the book and chapter TOCs. When we make a PDF of the book using the Standard .joboptions file, the first three chapters have relative links that don't work while the other two chapters have working links. This is true for both the book TOC and the chapter TOCs. By relative links I mean that, in Acrobat Pro Extended with the Links tool selected, selecting a link and then pressing Ctrl+I and clicking the Actions tab displays similar to the following: Actions: Go to a page in another document File: c:\[folder name]\[chapter file name.pdf] Destination name: G1044809 Where the folder name is the working folder for the book. There is no chapter file name.pdf in that folder (which is probably why nothing happens). For TOC links that _do_ work, the Action is Go to a page in this document. By don't work I mean that left-clicking a link does not move to a different page of the PDF. Make sure you've turned on Create Named Destinations For All Paragraphs in the Links tab of the PDF setup dialog. Cross-file links can point to different targets depending on whether files are open or closed at the time of creation; I wonder if that has something to do with your problem. Make sure your book and all its chapters are open, but that the chapter TOC files are closed when you create the book.pdf. When we try to make the PDF from FrameMaker 9 we get an error message in Distiller: Adobe PDF Settings file read error in PDFX4 2008.joboptions: /CheckCompliance out of range We can't find that .joboptions file anywhere on our hard drive. Searching for joboptions in a MIF of a chapter file found only the Standard.joboptions that we specify when making the PDF. This may be a second problem unrelated to the links issue. On my similar set-up, the path is: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings\PDFX4 2008.joboptions I think that file might get called by Distiller in the background as a result of your own joboptions setting for General File Options Compatibility, and/or Standards Standards Reporting and Compliance. Experiment with those? HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com NOTICE This message and any attachment(s) are for authorized use by the intended recipient(s) only and may contain privileged or confidential information. Unless you are an intended recipient, you may not use, copy, retain, or disclose to anyone any information contained in this message and any attachment(s). If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please immediately contact the sender and delete this message and any attachment(s). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
This is probably the wrong day to tell you this, so you're welcome to lay it aside for another day, BUT if you have many overriders in your paragraphs, you have yet to fully discover and appreciate what FrameMaker is meant to do. Let your overrides be few. FrameMaker is all about standardization and consistency, with an eye toward making your work life easier. Others can speak to this knowledgeably, and I'll be glad to stand corrected, but if I recall correctly, the changes between FM 7 and FM 9 that are affecting you in this particular circumstance have to do with the unicode features of FM 9 that weren't in FM 7. In any case, you're probably either going to have to suffer through a lot of manual work or clean up your overrides, creating new standard styles where appropriate. If you take the second path, you'll save yourself grief in the future and the clean import approach won't be nearly as painful. Regards, Jim -Original Message- From: Ragnar Hanås [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:13 PM To: 'De Rosier, Edward'; Pinkham, Jim Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems Thanks for the replies. However, I have many overriders in my paragraphs, so this will include a lot of manual work in a 460 page book. There must be some explanation for the switch in interpretation of some picture fonts when moving to FM9. When I choose a Dixieland symbol from scratch for a bullet in FM9, it uses the same letter coding as in FM7. So the problem seems to appear when opening a FM7 document in FM9. The problem also appears in body text, i.e. another Dixieland symbol shows in FM9 than in FM7. When changing the font to Arial a different letter appears. Regards, Ragnar -Original Message- From: De Rosier, Edward [mailto:edward.deros...@anritsu.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:56 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; ragnar.ha...@betamed.se Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems Hi Ragnar, The solution from Jim is a good one. Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font. The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker 9 has a built‑in Character Palette. With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using: File == Utilities == Character Palette... The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the list of those available on your computer. You can select more than one character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes. Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts). On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not. I do not know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I just accept those that work with gratitude8-) Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire. And you can also select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your Character Catalog). Best of luck, Ed DeRosier -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM To: Ragnar Hanås; De Rosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then apply it. -Original Message- From: Ragnar Hanås [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's translation of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing loss of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case).
RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
This is probably the wrong day to tell you this, so you're welcome to lay it aside for another day, BUT if you have many overriders in your paragraphs, you have yet to fully discover and appreciate what FrameMaker is meant to do. Let your overrides be few. FrameMaker is all about standardization and consistency, with an eye toward making your work life easier. I completely agree with Jim's comment! Using overrides can come back and bite you when you need to change things later - usually global changes in documents. Then the exceptions can make you spend lots of time fixing things. A trivial example (albeit Character Format related not Paragraph Format) ... From habit when using Word (and other programs), people have a tendency to apply italics (or bolding) by selecting words and pressing Control-I (or Control-B) within FrameMaker. While this method works, the result is an override that can get accidentally removed in a heartbeat when the paragraph format is changed in certain ways - Word uses tend to live with this silliness! A far better solution is to create Character Formats (use the AS-IS feature to avoid changing all items in the format!) and apply them to the desired selected text. I have Emphasis and Bold and Underline character formats for example - they gracefully handle the use of the correct italic and bold fonts regardless of the underlying actual font, when the correct settings are used in the Format. Most importantly, that way, changing the paragraph format later will not mung your italics and bolding. Or, you can change the way the bolding or italics is done ... everywhere that you use them! My only *minor* complaint with my method is that the italicizing is not conditional ... meaning, with a *single* Character Format called Emphasis I cannot get a slanted font when the underlying paragraph font is regular and a regular font when the underlying paragraph font is italic. I have to have two separate Emphasis formats instead. Oh, well ... Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PowerPoint to Frame
I've got about 25 power point presentations of various sizes from which I have to create a manual. Does anyone know an easy and effective way to go from PPT to FM? Thank you, Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 *408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * gfl...@nanometrics.commailto:gfl...@nanometrics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PowerPoint to Frame
Gilian, One way would involve saving your powerpoint as html and then converting the html to text. There is a freeware utility called htmlastext (www.nirsoft.net/utils/htmlastext.html) that I have used to strip the html code, resulting in a text file. The saveas html should create a separate folder of the graphic elements in your powerpoint. Paste the text portions into your Frame paratags/elements, importing the graphics as needed. This should leave you with what you are looking for. --- On Mon, 6/13/11, Flato, Gillian gfl...@nanometrics.com wrote: From: Flato, Gillian gfl...@nanometrics.com Subject: PowerPoint to Frame To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 6:16 PM I’ve got about 25 power point presentations of various sizes from which I have to create a manual. Does anyone know an easy and effective way to go from PPT to FM? Thank you, Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * gfl...@nanometrics.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's translation of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing loss of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case). I consulted the following two resources: http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont- want-a-plain-round-bullet.html http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html These should get you on the path. Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book. I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that. That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well. Good luck! Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Hi Framers, I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2). The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets for Greater Than or Equal To (GTE). The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to Symbol font. [Ctrl][q] [3] = GTE (this produces a small box) or [Alt][0179]= GTE (this works) [Ctrl][q] [#] = LTE (this works) or [Alt][0163]= LTE (this works) Problem: [Ctrl][q] [3] == S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font [Alt][0179]== superscript 3, and also GTE in Symbol font In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in Symbol font. Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using [Ctrl][q] [3]. While the ASCII character work-around is available, I am concerned with opening FM7.2 documents in FM9. Will previously created GTE characters be lost? This is important because we are just beginning to use FM9, and all of our previous FrameMaker documents were created with FM7.2. I have opened a book of files (created with FM7) in FM9, updated the entire book and saved all files. Then I checked the GTE characters, and they looked fine. Trying to add additional GTE symbols resulted in the same problem when using [Ctrl][q] [3]. This seems to indicated that the GTE symbols are safe, but I am suspicous of this new behavior and seek assurances. My system: Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 Version 9.0p230 Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2 Dell Intel Core2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz 3.25 GB RAM Is anyone else experiencing this same behavior with FM9 ? We are a small group of tech writers, and we are all experiencing the same behavior of FM9. Thanks for your help and opinions. Ed DeRosier Senior Technical Writer Anritsu Company edward.deros...@anritsu.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jim.pink...@voith.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ragnar.ha...@betamed.se. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ragnar.hanas%40betamed.s e Send administrative questions to
RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
Hi Ragnar, The solution from Jim is a good one. Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font. The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker 9 has a built‑in Character Palette. With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using: File == Utilities == Character Palette... The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the list of those available on your computer. You can select more than one character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes. Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts). On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not. I do not know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I just accept those that work with gratitude8-) Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire. And you can also select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your Character Catalog). Best of luck, Ed DeRosier -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM To: Ragnar Hanås; De Rosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then apply it. -Original Message- From: Ragnar Hanås [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's translation of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing loss of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case). I consulted the following two resources: http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont- want-a-plain-round-bullet.html http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html These should get you on the path. Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book. I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that. That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well. Good luck! Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Hi Framers, I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2). The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets for Greater Than or Equal To (GTE). The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to Symbol font. [Ctrl][q] [3] = GTE (this produces a small box) or [Alt][0179]= GTE (this works) [Ctrl][q] [#] = LTE (this works) or [Alt][0163]= LTE (this works) Problem: [Ctrl][q] [3] == S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font [Alt][0179]== superscript 3, and also GTE in Symbol font In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in Symbol font. Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using [Ctrl][q] [3]. While the ASCII character work-around is available, I am concerned with
RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
Thanks for the replies. However, I have many overriders in my paragraphs, so this will include a lot of manual work in a 460 page book. There must be some explanation for the switch in interpretation of some picture fonts when moving to FM9. When I choose a Dixieland symbol from scratch for a bullet in FM9, it uses the same letter coding as in FM7. So the problem seems to appear when opening a FM7 document in FM9. The problem also appears in body text, i.e. another Dixieland symbol shows in FM9 than in FM7. When changing the font to Arial a different letter appears. Regards, Ragnar -Original Message- From: De Rosier, Edward [mailto:edward.deros...@anritsu.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:56 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; ragnar.ha...@betamed.se Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems Hi Ragnar, The solution from Jim is a good one. Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font. The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker 9 has a built‑in Character Palette. With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using: File == Utilities == Character Palette... The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the list of those available on your computer. You can select more than one character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes. Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts). On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not. I do not know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I just accept those that work with gratitude8-) Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire. And you can also select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your Character Catalog). Best of luck, Ed DeRosier -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM To: Ragnar Hanås; De Rosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then apply it. -Original Message- From: Ragnar Hanås [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's translation of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing loss of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case). I consulted the following two resources: http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont- want-a-plain-round-bullet.html http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html These should get you on the path. Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book. I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that. That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well. Good luck! Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject:
RE: PowerPoint to Frame
I agree with David about save-as-html – that’s the route I’ve taken many times in similar situations, and it has proven a pretty efficient way to extract the graphics into something FM can use as a referenced graphic. However, I’d like to add a bit about the graphics… Due to the way that Microsoft Office products handle graphics, it is best to attempt to get the graphics back to their original resolution before doing the save-as-html. To do this, you can use the Find feature in PPT (or Word when you have a DOC file), searching for any graphic. When Find locates a graphic, from the picture tool bar, choose the Reset Graphic button (looks like a curved arrow pointing at a picture), and then click the graphic. If the graphic was larger or higher resolution than what is presently displayed in the PPT/DOC file, it will enlarge to its original state at import. This will look messy, but just bear with the process. When you finish finding and resetting all the graphics, THEN do the save-as-html trick. The resulting graphics file will populate with a bunch of image* files. One final alternative in this procedure: If you don’t want to go with another product, you can then open the HTML file you just created in Word, select all, copy, and then in FM paste as plain text into a body-style paragraph. Apply your headings as needed, insert the image* files, and Bob’s your uncle! BTW: the ImpGraph plug-in is a great way to preconfigure your graphics import settings in FM. ;-) HTH Rene From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Spreadbury Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:53 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; GillianFlato Subject: Re: PowerPoint to Frame Gilian, One way would involve saving your powerpoint as html and then converting the html to text. There is a freeware utility called htmlastext (www.nirsoft.net/utils/htmlastext.html) that I have used to strip the html code, resulting in a text file. The saveas html should create a separate folder of the graphic elements in your powerpoint. Paste the text portions into your Frame paratags/elements, importing the graphics as needed. This should leave you with what you are looking for. --- On Mon, 6/13/11, Flato, Gillian gfl...@nanometrics.com wrote: From: Flato, Gillian gfl...@nanometrics.com Subject: PowerPoint to Frame To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 6:16 PM I’ve got about 25 power point presentations of various sizes from which I have to create a manual. Does anyone know an easy and effective way to go from PPT to FM? Thank you, Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * gfl...@nanometrics.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then apply it. -Original Message- From: Ragnar Han?s [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case). I consulted the following two resources: http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont- want-a-plain-round-bullet.html http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html These should get you on the path. Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book. I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that. That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well. Good luck! Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Hi Framers, I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2). The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets for Greater Than or Equal To (GTE). The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to "Symbol" font. [Ctrl][q] [3] => GTE (this produces a small box) or [Alt][0179]=> GTE (this works) [Ctrl][q] [#] => LTE (this works) or [Alt][0163]=> LTE (this works) Problem: [Ctrl][q] [3] ==> S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font [Alt][0179]==> superscript 3, and also GTE in Symbol font In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in Symbol font. Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using [Ctrl][q] [3]. While the ASCII character work-around is available, I am concerned with opening FM7.2 documents in FM9. Will previously created GTE characters be lost? This is important because we are just beginning to use FM9, and all of our previous FrameMaker documents were created with FM7.2. I have opened a book of files (created with FM7) in FM9, updated the entire book and saved all files. Then I checked the GTE characters, and they looked fine. Trying to add additional GTE symbols resulted in the same problem when using [Ctrl][q] [3]. This seems to indicated that the GTE symbols are "safe", but I am suspicous of this new behavior and seek assurances. My system: Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 Version 9.0p230 Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2 Dell Intel Core2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz 3.25 GB RAM Is anyone else experiencing this same behavior with FM9 ? We are a small group of tech writers, and we are all experiencing the same behavior of FM9. Thanks for your help and opinions. Ed DeRosier Senior Technical Writer Anritsu Company Edward.DeRosier at anritsu.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative
Deleting Empty Paragraphs
HI All, I'm trying to delete empty paragraphs from a file I imported from Word. A simple \P\p or ^\p in the find box using wildcards does fine, except if my empty para is an anchor para with a table anchor in it. It seems FM doesn't see the table anchor. I have a script that deletes empty paras as well, but that left me with empty paras that were a level 3 or 4 Heading. And yes, I already did a MIF wash. Any ideas? Thanks, Orly. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110613/cb9d446f/attachment.html>
Recall: Deleting Empty Paragraphs
Orly Zimmerman would like to recall the message, "Deleting Empty Paragraphs".
Deleting Empty Paragraphs
Scratch That, Even though it finds the tables, it actually leaves them intact when searching and replacing this way. Go figure :) === HI All, I'm trying to delete empty paragraphs from a file I imported from Word. A simple \P\p or ^\p in the find box using wildcards does fine, except if my empty para is an anchor para with a table anchor in it. It seems FM doesn't see the table anchor. I have a script that deletes empty paras as well, but that left me with empty paras that were a level 3 or 4 Heading. And yes, I already did a MIF wash. Any ideas? Thanks, Orly. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110613/562dfdb8/attachment.html>
Some links in PDF don't work
Thanks, Stuart, for your suggestions, but neither creating named destinations nor having all book files open made a difference. I admit I didn't spend much time experimenting with Distiller settings, but the first thing I tried didn't produce working links. And by that time one of my colleagues took a chapter file back to .txt and reapplied the styles, resulting in a chapter that had working links. So that's what we'll be doing with this book. Thanks for trying to help, Beverly -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:13 PM To: Beverly Robinson Cc: Post Framers Subject: Re: Some links in PDF don't work On 08/06/2011 2:41 PM, Beverly Robinson wrote: > Windows XP SP3, TCS2 (FrameMaker 9.0p255, Acrobat Extended Pro 9.4.4, > Distiller 9.4.2220), FrameMaker 8.0p277 > > Our service manuals have a main TOC and chapter TOCs on the first > page of each chapter. The chapter TOC is generated by selecting > Special | Table of Contents and then inserting the resulting .TOC > file by reference into the first page of the chapter file. > > The problem book was started in English FrameMaker v8, saved back to > v7 to use as boilerplate in French FrameMaker v7. When the files were > returned to us in the US, we opened them in FrameMaker v8 again and > added the book and chapter TOCs. When we make a PDF of the book using > the "Standard" .joboptions file, the first three chapters have > relative links that don't work while the other two chapters have > working links. This is true for both the book TOC and the chapter > TOCs. > > By "relative links" I mean that, in Acrobat Pro Extended with the > Links tool selected, selecting a link and then pressing Ctrl+I and > clicking the Actions tab displays similar to the following: Actions: > Go to a page in another document File: c:\[folder name]\[chapter file > name.pdf] Destination name: G1044809 Where the folder name is the > working folder for the book. There is no "chapter file name.pdf" in > that folder (which is probably why nothing happens). For TOC links > that _do_ work, the Action is "Go to a page in this document." > > By "don't work" I mean that left-clicking a link does not move to a > different page of the PDF. Make sure you've turned on Create Named Destinations For All Paragraphs in the Links tab of the PDF setup dialog. Cross-file links can point to different targets depending on whether files are open or closed at the time of creation; I wonder if that has something to do with your problem. Make sure your book and all its chapters are open, but that the chapter TOC files are closed when you create the book.pdf. > > When we try to make the PDF from FrameMaker 9 we get an error message > in Distiller: Adobe PDF Settings file read error in PDFX4 > 2008.joboptions: /CheckCompliance out of range We can't find that > .joboptions file anywhere on our hard drive. Searching for > "joboptions" in a MIF of a chapter file found only the > Standard.joboptions that we specify when making the PDF. This may be a second problem unrelated to the links issue. On my similar set-up, the path is: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings\PDFX4 2008.joboptions I think that file might get called by Distiller in the background as a result of your own joboptions setting for General > File Options > Compatibility, and/or Standards > Standards Reporting and Compliance. Experiment with those? HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com NOTICE ? This message and any attachment(s) are for authorized use by the intended recipient(s) only and may contain privileged or confidential information. Unless you are an intended recipient, you may not use, copy, retain, or disclose to anyone any information contained in this message and any attachment(s). If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please immediately contact the sender and delete this message and any attachment(s).
FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
This is probably the wrong day to tell you this, so you're welcome to lay it aside for another day, BUT if you have "many overriders" in your paragraphs, you have yet to fully discover and appreciate what FrameMaker is meant to do. Let your overrides be few. FrameMaker is all about standardization and consistency, with an eye toward making your work life easier. Others can speak to this knowledgeably, and I'll be glad to stand corrected, but if I recall correctly, the changes between FM 7 and FM 9 that are affecting you in this particular circumstance have to do with the unicode features of FM 9 that weren't in FM 7. In any case, you're probably either going to have to suffer through a lot of manual work or clean up your overrides, creating new standard styles where appropriate. If you take the second path, you'll save yourself grief in the future and the clean import approach won't be nearly as painful. Regards, Jim -Original Message- From: Ragnar Han?s [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:13 PM To: 'De Rosier, Edward'; Pinkham, Jim Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems Thanks for the replies. However, I have many overriders in my paragraphs, so this will include a lot of manual work in a 460 page book. There must be some explanation for the switch in interpretation of some picture fonts when moving to FM9. When I choose a Dixieland symbol from scratch for a bullet in FM9, it uses the same letter coding as in FM7. So the problem seems to appear when opening a FM7 document in FM9. The problem also appears in body text, i.e. another Dixieland symbol shows in FM9 than in FM7. When changing the font to Arial a different letter appears. Regards, Ragnar -Original Message- From: De Rosier, Edward [mailto:edward.deros...@anritsu.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:56 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; ragnar.hanas at betamed.se Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems Hi Ragnar, The solution from Jim is a good one. Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font. The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker 9 has a built?in Character Palette. With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using: File ==> Utilities ==> Character Palette... The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the list of those available on your computer. You can select more than one character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes. Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts). On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not. I do not know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I just accept those that work with gratitude8-) Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire. And you can also select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your Character Catalog). Best of luck, Ed DeRosier -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM To: Ragnar Han?s; De Rosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then apply it. -Original Message- From: Ragnar Han?s [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to the
FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
> This is probably the wrong day to tell you this, so you're welcome to lay it > aside for another > day, BUT if you have "many overriders" in your paragraphs, you have yet to > fully discover > and appreciate what FrameMaker is meant to do. Let your overrides be few. > FrameMaker > is all about standardization and consistency, with an eye toward making your > work life easier. I completely agree with Jim's comment! Using overrides can come back and bite you when you need to change things later - usually global changes in documents. Then the exceptions can make you spend lots of time fixing things. A trivial example (albeit Character Format related not Paragraph Format) ...
PowerPoint to Frame
I've got about 25 power point presentations of various sizes from which I have to create a manual. Does anyone know an easy and effective way to go from PPT to FM? Thank you, Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 *408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * gflato at nanometrics.com<mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110613/2bdb7f3f/attachment.html>
PowerPoint to Frame
Gilian, One way would involve saving your powerpoint as html and then converting the html to text. There is a freeware utility called htmlastext (www.nirsoft.net/utils/htmlastext.html) that I have used to strip the html code, resulting in a text file. The saveas html should create a separate folder of the graphic elements in your powerpoint. Paste the text portions into your Frame paratags/elements, importing the graphics as needed. This should leave you with what you are looking for. --- On Mon, 6/13/11, Flato, Gillian wrote: From: Flato, Gillian <gfl...@nanometrics.com> Subject: PowerPoint to Frame To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 6:16 PM I?ve got about 25 power point presentations of various sizes from which I have to create a manual. Does anyone know an easy and effective way to go from PPT to FM? ? ? Thank you, ? ? Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7? 408.232.5911 * gflato at nanometrics.com ? -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspreadb at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110613/b99bb9c5/attachment.html>
FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case). I consulted the following two resources: http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont- want-a-plain-round-bullet.html http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html These should get you on the path. Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book. I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that. That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well. Good luck! Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Hi Framers, I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2). The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets for Greater Than or Equal To (GTE). The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to "Symbol" font. [Ctrl][q] [3] => GTE (this produces a small box) or [Alt][0179]=> GTE (this works) [Ctrl][q] [#] => LTE (this works) or [Alt][0163]=> LTE (this works) Problem: [Ctrl][q] [3] ==> S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font [Alt][0179]==> superscript 3, and also GTE in Symbol font In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in Symbol font. Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using [Ctrl][q] [3]. While the ASCII character work-around is available, I am concerned with opening FM7.2 documents in FM9. Will previously created GTE characters be lost? This is important because we are just beginning to use FM9, and all of our previous FrameMaker documents were created with FM7.2. I have opened a book of files (created with FM7) in FM9, updated the entire book and saved all files. Then I checked the GTE characters, and they looked fine. Trying to add additional GTE symbols resulted in the same problem when using [Ctrl][q] [3]. This seems to indicated that the GTE symbols are "safe", but I am suspicous of this new behavior and seek assurances. My system: Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 Version 9.0p230 Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2 Dell Intel Core2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz 3.25 GB RAM Is anyone else experiencing this same behavior with FM9 ? We are a small group of tech writers, and we are all experiencing the same behavior of FM9. Thanks for your help and opinions. Ed DeRosier Senior Technical Writer Anritsu Company Edward.DeRosier at anritsu.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ragnar.hanas at betamed.se. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit
FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
Hi Ragnar, The solution from Jim is a good one. Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font. The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker?9 has a built?in Character Palette. With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using: File ==> Utilities ==> Character Palette... The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the list of those available on your computer. You can select more than one character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes. Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts). On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not. I do not know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I just accept those that work with gratitude8-) Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire. And you can also select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your Character Catalog). Best of luck, Ed DeRosier -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM To: Ragnar Han?s; De Rosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then apply it. -Original Message- From: Ragnar Han?s [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case). I consulted the following two resources: http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont- want-a-plain-round-bullet.html http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html These should get you on the path. Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book. I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that. That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well. Good luck! Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Hi Framers, I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2). The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets for Greater Than or Equal To (GTE). The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to "Symbol" font. [Ctrl][q] [3] => GTE (this produces a small box) or [Alt][0179]=> GTE (this works) [Ctrl][q] [#] => LTE (this works) or [Alt][0163]=> LTE (this works) Problem: [Ctrl][q] [3] ==> S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font [Alt][0179]==> superscript 3, and also GTE in Symbol font In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in Symbol font. Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using [Ctrl][q] [3]. While the ASCII character work-around
FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems
Thanks for the replies. However, I have many overriders in my paragraphs, so this will include a lot of manual work in a 460 page book. There must be some explanation for the switch in interpretation of some picture fonts when moving to FM9. When I choose a Dixieland symbol from scratch for a bullet in FM9, it uses the same letter coding as in FM7. So the problem seems to appear when opening a FM7 document in FM9. The problem also appears in body text, i.e. another Dixieland symbol shows in FM9 than in FM7. When changing the font to Arial a different letter appears. Regards, Ragnar -Original Message- From: De Rosier, Edward [mailto:edward.deros...@anritsu.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:56 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; ragnar.hanas at betamed.se Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems Hi Ragnar, The solution from Jim is a good one. Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font. The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker 9 has a built?in Character Palette. With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using: File ==> Utilities ==> Character Palette... The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the list of those available on your computer. You can select more than one character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes. Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts). On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not. I do not know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I just accept those that work with gratitude8-) Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire. And you can also select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your Character Catalog). Best of luck, Ed DeRosier -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM To: Ragnar Han?s; De Rosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then apply it. -Original Message- From: Ragnar Han?s [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists. Are there specific problems with certain fonts? Any ideas? Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM To: DeRosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different characters and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols (Wingdings, in my case). I consulted the following two resources: http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont- want-a-plain-round-bullet.html http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html These should get you on the path. Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book. I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that. That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well. Good luck! Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM To: framers at
