RE: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August
Lynda.com has an introductory FrameMaker class. It is fairly new so I think it uses FrameMaker 10. Their classes are top-quality and very inexpensive. I have been a member on and off for years. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:51 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August We just hired a new writer, but she has no FrameMaker experience. I will be too busy to train her. I am looking for a good FrameMaker Basics sort of class in the Boston area in August. Any suggestions? Reviews? Feel free to reply here or to me directly at jsgamm...@imprivata.com John Sgammato Documentation Architect Imprivata, Inc Lexington, MA 02421 (781) 674-2441 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats SOLVED
Hello All, Rick was kind enough to work with me on this issue and I am back on track (for the time being anyway). He suggested adding the formatting into my EDD using the textformat structures. I greatly appreciate everyone's input. This list rocks! Lisa From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Freeman Sent: 07 03, 2012 8:24 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Hi Rick, I unwrapped a few para elements and then imported the EDD as you suggested. It ended up wiping out every paragraph format in the test document. They're now all body again. It was a good idea though! Thank you, Lisa From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] Sent: 07 03, 2012 8:12 AM To: Lisa Freeman; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Hi Lisa, Try this: after you wrap a few elements, choose File Import Element Definitions. Check the Format Rule Overrides checkbox and click Import. Does that give you the correct formatting for each element? Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Freeman Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:24 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Hello All, FM10 - We are converting an unstructured Frame file to Structured. Due to unfortunate circumstances, we are not able to use a conversion table (sigh). The issue is that during the hand tagging of this file, we have to wrap the text in the element tags in para tags to match the schema. When we wrap the text, we lose the paragraph's formatting properties. Everything turns to body and we have to reapply the format. We are able to manipulate the EDD somewhat but can't stray from the structure. We've looked at Read\Write rules but they don't appear to help in this case. We've also looked at using the TextFormatRules, ElementPgfFormatTag options but we have more than one paragraph style that goes to an individual element. Does anyone have any other ideas? BTW, everything works great when a new document is created using the template, EDD, etc. Thank you in advance! Sincerely, Lisa Freeman Publication Support Analyst E-mail: lfree...@oneil.commailto:lfree...@oneil.com ** Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and intended for use only by the person(s) or organization listed in the address. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender at O'Neil Associates, Inc., immediately. Any copying, dissemination, or distribution of this communication, other than by the intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. ** ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker graphic file support
Hello Framers Does anyone know of a definitive list of graphic file formats supported by FM9 and 10? The Help files give a very incomplete list (omitting PNG, GIF, EPS, etc.). Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August
Please, please, please makes sure your new person understands how paragraph and character tags work and has a basic understanding of master pages. Given the kind of odd stuff I've been seeing lately this might save a lot of trouble down the line. And make sure the Text Formatting toolbar is turned off (and stays off) in their installation. Here's and example of the kind of stuff I see: A document (label) with the most important single line formatted as a overridden paragraph tag and an overridden character tag named As Is (that is definitely not formatting things As Is). I forget how many extra (unused in any way) master pages it had, but the one it used was neither Right nor Left. Also, it might be wise to caution the new person not to click on the Update All button inside the character designer when they happen to be in an instance of a character tag. That seems to be what happened to a lot of the character tags I am seeing where Bold is redefined to be Arial and 9pt, etc. etc. etc. instead of just affecting the attribute to bold the text. CraigFrom: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:51 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August We just hired a new writer, but she has no FrameMaker experience. I will be too busy to train her. I am looking for a good FrameMaker Basics sort of class in the Boston area in August. Any suggestions? Reviews?Feel free to reply here or to me directly at jsgamm...@imprivata.com John SgammatoDocumentation ArchitectImprivata, IncLexington, MA 02421(781) 674-2441 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 10 online, Rick's return
John, the Lynda.com course is FM 10. It is a good introductory course that covers Unstructured Frame only. Here is a website that has a useful, although somewhat dated, list of FM resources: http://www.prismnet.com/~tcm/etwr2472/frame_index.html There is the Adobe website, of course: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html Rick, great to see you back. Can't say I'm interested in a photo of your chest, although your writeups do sometimes keep me in stitches. (groan) cal ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Cleaning up color definitions - killing fm_gen colors in the MIF files
Hi Gillian Thought I'd put this onto the list too, in case other people have the same question. To unlock colors, save as MIF, then search for the string: and globally replace it with nothing. When you open the file as a .fm again, Framemaker re-applies the ColorIsReserved attribute to the basic color set (red etc) but not to the fm_gen colors. This means you can use View>Color>Definitions to delete the fm_gen colors, though that's slow. Instead, you can just delete the fm_gen colors in the MIF by finding them in the ColorCatalog section and deleting them. You need to delete the whole definition for each color, which looks like this: > # end of Color If you haven't got a huge number of files, this is pretty quick. If you re-import CT formats from a clean template afterwards, FM will re-create the definitions it needs. And the standard disclaimer: back up your files before you mess with MIFs! Cheers Rebecca >>> Gillian Flato 4/07/12 10:16 >>> Rebecca, I would love to know how to unlock those fm_gen colors. I have hundreds of them. They are just junk littering my files. Thanks, Gillian From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:12 PM To: Gillian Flato Subject: RE: Cleaning up color definitions Hi Gillian I've just looked up what we did and it was more complicated than I'd remembered. We were trying to clean out FM10's self-generated colours that it assigned to overlapping conditional text, and it turns out that FM locks those so you can't delete them. We started by doing search and replace on the MIF files to unlock the colours, then we ran a script. I can look up more details if that sounds like the problem you're trying to solve, but our script was pretty rough and wouldn't be safe for anyone but us to use. The locked self-generated colours were a right pain until we worked out how to unlock them. That's not an issue unless you're using overlapping CT and want to change the CT indicator colours. Cheers Rebecca >>> Gillian Flato 4/07/12 04:09 >>> Rebecca, Do you just manually delete the colors or do you use a script? Thanks -Gillian -Original Message- From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:00 AM To: Gillian Flato Subject: Re: Cleaning up color definitions No, but we've done it pretty fast by editing MIF files. Let me know if you want more detail - I'm at home but can look it up tomorrow. Cheers Rebecca >>> Gillian Flato 07/03/12 6:06 PM >>> Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like BookVars cleans up variables? Thank You, Gillian Flato Senior Content Developer Skype: Gillian.B.Flato Gillian.Flato at nexenta.com [Description: os-oct] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120704/00f56725/attachment.html>
FM10 Training in Boston or online in August
Lynda.com has an introductory FrameMaker class. It is fairly new so I think it uses FrameMaker 10. Their classes are top-quality and very inexpensive. I have been a member on and off for years. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:51 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August We just hired a new writer, but she has no FrameMaker experience. I will be too busy to train her. I am looking for a good FrameMaker Basics sort of class in the Boston area in August. Any suggestions? Reviews? Feel free to reply here or to me directly at jsgammato at imprivata.com John Sgammato Documentation Architect Imprivata, Inc Lexington, MA 02421 (781) 674-2441 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120704/7fea8200/attachment.html>
Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats SOLVED
Hello All, Rick was kind enough to work with me on this issue and I am back on track (for the time being anyway). He suggested adding the formatting into my EDD using the textformat structures. I greatly appreciate everyone's input. This list rocks! Lisa From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Freeman Sent: 07 03, 2012 8:24 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Hi Rick, I unwrapped a few para elements and then imported the EDD as you suggested. It ended up wiping out every paragraph format in the test document. They're now all again. It was a good idea though! Thank you, Lisa From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] Sent: 07 03, 2012 8:12 AM To: Lisa Freeman; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Hi Lisa, Try this: after you wrap a few elements, choose File > Import > Element Definitions. Check the Format Rule Overrides checkbox and click Import. Does that give you the correct formatting for each element? Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Freeman Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:24 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Hello All, FM10 - We are converting an unstructured Frame file to Structured. Due to unfortunate circumstances, we are not able to use a conversion table (sigh). The issue is that during the hand tagging of this file, we have to wrap the text in the element tags in para tags to match the schema. When we wrap the text, we lose the paragraph's formatting properties. Everything turns to "body" and we have to reapply the format. We are able to manipulate the EDD somewhat but can't stray from the structure. We've looked at Read\Write rules but they don't appear to help in this case. We've also looked at using the "TextFormatRules, ElementPgfFormatTag" options but we have more than one paragraph style that goes to an individual element. Does anyone have any other ideas? BTW, everything works great when a new document is created using the template, EDD, etc. Thank you in advance! Sincerely, Lisa Freeman Publication Support Analyst E-mail: lfreeman at oneil.com<mailto:lfreeman at oneil.com> ** Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and intended for use only by the person(s) or organization listed in the address. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender at O'Neil & Associates, Inc., immediately. Any copying, dissemination, or distribution of this communication, other than by the intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. ** -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120704/45829d49/attachment.html>
FrameMaker graphic file support
Hello Framers Does anyone know of a definitive list of graphic file formats supported by FM9 and 10? The Help files give a very incomplete list (omitting PNG, GIF, EPS, etc.). Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120704/68a12ad4/attachment.html>
FM10 Training in Boston or online in August
Please, please, please makes sure your new person understands how paragraph and character tags work and has a basic understanding of master pages. Given the kind of odd stuff I've been seeing lately this might save a lot of trouble down the line. And make sure the Text Formatting toolbar is turned off (and stays off) in their installation. Here's and example of the kind of stuff I see: A document (label) with the most important single line formatted as a overridden paragraph tag and an overridden character tag named "As Is" (that is definitely not formatting things "As Is"). I forget how many extra (unused in any way) master pages it had, but the one it used was neither Right nor Left. Also, it might be wise to caution the new person not to click on the "Update All" button inside the character designer when they happen to be in an instance of a character tag. That seems to be what happened to a lot of the character tags I am seeing where "Bold" is redefined to be Arial and 9pt, etc. etc. etc. instead of just affecting the attribute to bold the text. CraigFrom: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:51 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August We just hired a new writer, but she has no FrameMaker experience. I will be too busy to train her. I am looking for a good FrameMaker Basics sort of class in the Boston area in August. Any suggestions? Reviews?Feel free to reply here or to me directly at jsgammato at imprivata.com John SgammatoDocumentation ArchitectImprivata, IncLexington, MA 02421(781) 674-2441 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craigede at hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120704/81869a9e/attachment.html>
FM 10 online, Rick's return
John, the Lynda.com course is FM 10. It is a good introductory course that covers Unstructured Frame only. Here is a website that has a useful, although somewhat dated, list of FM resources: http://www.prismnet.com/~tcm/etwr2472/frame_index.html There is the Adobe website, of course: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html Rick, great to see you back. Can't say I'm interested in a photo of your chest, although your writeups do sometimes keep me in stitches. (groan) cal -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120704/7d7d8537/attachment.html>
