Re: Formatting in EDD

2012-07-09 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Hi Kristy,

I have found Structured FM hard to tame in this way too. I have found that
making Format Change Lists in the EDD itself and have the relevant element
call the particular format from there never fails.

Haven't tried this extensively in FM10, but it worked like a charm in 7.2.
:-)

The only thing you always have to check is if you are allowing options of
fonts that some fonts don't have 'bold' as an option and then FM tries to
force a 'bolded' instead which can give problems in a searchable pdf. But I
guess you already know that.

HTH,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Iceland


2012/7/5 Kristy Nolan kristy.no...@wnco.com

 Hi guys!

 ** **

 Frame 10, structured question. I am trying to clean up our EDD and can’t
 figure out how to designate some formatting. I have elements for Note,
 Caution, and Warning. Most of the formatting is fine (e.g., font, size,
 weight). However, the direction I have is single underline “Caution” and
 double underline “Warning.” Not the whole paragraph, just the term. I know
 how to do this if I go the style sheet route where I designate everything
 there. 

 ** **

 I tried creating character formats in the EDD – one for single and one for
 double underlines, but not working. May not even be on the right track
 there.

 ** **

 Thoughts?

 ** **

 Thanks!

 Kristy

 ** **

 ** **

 Kristy Nolan

 Manager, Flight Operations

 Central Publications HDQ-1CP

 Southwest Airlines

 2702 Love Field Dr.

 Dallas, TX 75235

 214-792-6142

 ** **

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RE: Variables pod problems

2012-07-09 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
My understanding is that FM9 had some issues dealing with Win7. Upgrading is 
the solution, but in the meantime, you could try turning off the aero 
interface and see if that improves your FM issue.

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Subject: Variables pod problems

Windows 7 64 bit, Frame 9, just updated to latest version today.

My Variables pod is fouled up. There is a white rectangle across all but the 
Insert and Create New buttons. Some of them still pop up tooltips on mouse over 
but some don't.

On top of this, when I select a custom variable that I want to change and click 
the Edit button (based on the tool tip, I can't actually see the button), it 
takes me to the Add/Edit Variable pod, but the Name and Definition fields are 
blank.

Combined, these two problems totally prevent me from making any changes to my 
variables.

My other activated copy of Frame is on an XP machine (SP 3) and this problem 
doesn't occur there. It's not really an option, though, to do my work on that 
computer.

Help?

Thank you,
Tim

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RE: Import PDF Comments

2012-07-09 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Lots of discussion of this on the forums - the key thing is that you have to 
make sure that you don't modify the FM doc after creating the review PDF, 
otherwise you can't import their comments back into FM.

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I just noticed that command next to Import Formats. Anybody used it?
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RE: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
I think he wants to compare first, before changing. This is another
situation where scanning the file for the variable definitions via script is
fairly easy.
Powershell is slow but would work on Windows to scan the two mifs and spit
out what each variable is defined as.

Craig

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Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the
variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that
they are using the same variables.

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RE: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This could work as a compare as well if you save the original file before
the import and then do a file compare with the resulting file after import.
Any changed variables would then be flagged so you could revert or otherwise
alter them.

Craig 

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Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the
variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that
they are using the same variables.

Nadine



 Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 7/07/12 09:06 
I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking 
in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm 
files are the same before I modify one to update the other.

The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and switch 
between the two files to see if there are any differences, but
(1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays 
only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file to 
the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed
this?)

Suggestions? I can use the Select: All Open Docs option, but the 
differences aren't as immediately apparent as switching between 
windows, so I'm afraid I'll miss something.
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Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread Robert Lauriston
I inherited this project and it'll take me a while to figure out what
the correct variables are. In the meantime, I need to start updating
it for the next release, and I have to avoid accidentally causing
errors by overwriting inconsistently used variables.

I have SnagIt so that's an option.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the 
 variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that they 
 are using the same variables.
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RE: Cleaning up color definitions

2012-07-09 Thread Gillian Flato
George,

It didn't work. I got an error message.

-Gillian

From: Georg Eck [mailto:e...@squidds.de]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:14 AM
To: Gillian Flato; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Cleaning up color definitions

Hi Gillian,

please test the feature: 'Formats' of TOOLBOX for FrameMaker 5 to 9 
(www.toolboxforme.comhttp://www.toolboxforme.com)
or Finalyser for FrameMaker 10 
(www.finalyser-shop.comhttp://www.finalyser-shop.com) you can delete the 
unused colors.
See online-help: 
http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/formats.xml.07.1.html


-  Georg

Your questions:

Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like 
BookVars cleans up variables?

Thank You,

Gillian Flato
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Re: Comparing variables in FM files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread Jang F.M. Graat
Hello Robert,

I have had the same problem often in the past, and one of the annoying things 
about the Variabled pod is that you cannot easily see whether or not a variable 
is actually used. The suggestions done so far on this list did not impress me 
at all, but give me a challenge and I will not rest until I have cooked 
something up.

I wrote an ExtendScript that lists all user-defined variables in two files and 
writes a report as CSV textile, which can be opened and studied in Excel. With 
that you will be able to determine which variables need to be deleted, copied, 
imported and in which direction the copying should be done.

The CSV lists all variable names and shows whether or not they are defined in 
both input files, how many times they are used in both input files and whether 
they have different values in the two files.

If I had a little more time I would include a dialog with checkboxes and an 
option to cleanup both files automatically, but I do have some paid scripting 
work to do and deadlines coming up.

If you are interested, send me an e-mail and I will send you the script. As 
FM10 includes ExtendScript out of the box, you do not need to install anything 
to run it. I will also see if Adobe wants to make the script available on their 
site somewhere. It might be handy for more Frame users in this world.

Kind regards from Amsterdam

JANG Communication
Coaching - Copywriting - Consulting
Amsterdam - Netherlands
Tel.  +31 20 755 8466
Cell +31 6 5478 1632
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 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:50:22 +1200
 From: rebecca officer rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz
 To: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com,
   framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
 Message-ID: 4ffaa95e02380004a...@gwia.alliedtelesyn.co.nz
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Take a screen snapshot of each variable pod and compare them from the 
 snapshots. If you've got snagit, you can even use the scroll capture mode and 
 get the whole pod in one snapshot.
 
 Cheers
 Rebecca
 
 
 Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 7/07/12 09:06 
 I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking
 in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm
 files are the same before I modify one to update the other.
 
 The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and
 switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but
 (1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays
 only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file
 to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed
 this?)
 

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RE: Cleaning up color definitions

2012-07-09 Thread Combs, Richard
Gillian Flato wrote: 
 
 George,
 
 It didn't work. I got an error message.

You're much more likely to get a helpful response if you begin with: 

It didn't work. I got the following error message: ... 

:-)

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Re: Another Year of HTML Mapping Page Woes

2012-07-09 Thread Karen Robbins
Book file must have been corrupted. I built a new book file--the 
documents inside were and are fine. The BookHTML reference page has 
appeared. I have hand-edited the first document's HTML mapping table, 
then copied it to that document's BookHTML table (it overflows the 
text box that's already as big as the page, but all the data is there 
even if I can't see it). Resulting HTML conversion works as expected. 
Woo-hoo!


--Karen
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comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread rebecca officer
Take a screen snapshot of each variable pod and compare them from the 
snapshots. If you've got snagit, you can even use the scroll capture mode and 
get the whole pod in one snapshot.

Cheers
Rebecca


>>> Robert Lauriston  7/07/12 09:06 >>>
I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking
in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm
files are the same before I modify one to update the other.

The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and
switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but
(1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays
only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file
to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed
this?)

Suggestions? I can use the Select: All Open Docs option, but the
differences aren't as immediately apparent as switching between
windows, so I'm afraid I'll miss something.
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Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...

2012-07-09 Thread rebecca officer
I just want to say thank you to everyone who's replied, both on and off-list. 
I'll get back to people individually, and I'll write up a summary of the 
options for the list, once I've got them more sorted out!

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Formatting in EDD

2012-07-09 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Hi Kristy,

I have found Structured FM hard to tame in this way too. I have found that
making Format Change Lists in the EDD itself and have the relevant element
call the particular format from there never fails.

Haven't tried this extensively in FM10, but it worked like a charm in 7.2.
:-)

The only thing you always have to check is if you are allowing options of
fonts that some fonts don't have 'bold' as an option and then FM tries to
force a 'bolded' instead which can give problems in a searchable pdf. But I
guess you already know that.

HTH,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Iceland


2012/7/5 Kristy Nolan 

> Hi guys!
>
> ** **
>
> Frame 10, structured question. I am trying to clean up our EDD and can?t
> figure out how to designate some formatting. I have elements for Note,
> Caution, and Warning. Most of the formatting is fine (e.g., font, size,
> weight). However, the direction I have is single underline ?Caution? and
> double underline ?Warning.? Not the whole paragraph, just the term. I know
> how to do this if I go the style sheet route where I designate everything
> there. 
>
> ** **
>
> I tried creating character formats in the EDD ? one for single and one for
> double underlines, but not working. May not even be on the right track
> there.
>
> ** **
>
> Thoughts?
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kristy
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Kristy Nolan
>
> Manager, Flight Operations
>
> Central Publications HDQ-1CP
>
> Southwest Airlines
>
> 2702 Love Field Dr.
>
> Dallas, TX 75235
>
> 214-792-6142
>
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Variables pod problems

2012-07-09 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
My understanding is that FM9 had some issues dealing with Win7. Upgrading is 
the solution, but in the meantime, you could try turning off the "aero" 
interface and see if that improves your FM issue.

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Subject: Variables pod problems

Windows 7 64 bit, Frame 9, just updated to latest version today.

My Variables pod is fouled up. There is a white rectangle across all but the 
Insert and Create New buttons. Some of them still pop up tooltips on mouse over 
but some don't.

On top of this, when I select a custom variable that I want to change and click 
the Edit button (based on the tool tip, I can't actually see the button), it 
takes me to the Add/Edit Variable pod, but the Name and Definition fields are 
blank.

Combined, these two problems totally prevent me from making any changes to my 
variables.

My other activated copy of Frame is on an XP machine (SP 3) and this problem 
doesn't occur there. It's not really an option, though, to do my work on that 
computer.

Help?

Thank you,
Tim

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Import PDF Comments

2012-07-09 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Lots of discussion of this on the forums - the key thing is that you have to 
make sure that you don't modify the FM doc after creating the review PDF, 
otherwise you can't import their comments back into FM.

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I just noticed that command next to Import Formats. Anybody used it?
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comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
I think he wants to compare first, before changing. This is another
situation where scanning the file for the variable definitions via script is
fairly easy.
Powershell is slow but would work on Windows to scan the two mifs and spit
out what each variable is defined as.

Craig

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:33 PM
To: rebecca officer; Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the
variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that
they are using the same variables.

Nadine





comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This could work as a compare as well if you save the original file before
the import and then do a file compare with the resulting file after import.
Any changed variables would then be flagged so you could revert or otherwise
alter them.

Craig 

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Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the
variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that
they are using the same variables.

Nadine



 Robert Lauriston  7/07/12 09:06 >>>
>I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking 
>in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm 
>files are the same before I modify one to update the other.
>
>The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and switch 
>between the two files to see if there are any differences, but
>(1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays 
>only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file to 
>the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed
>this?)
>
>Suggestions? I can use the Select: All Open Docs option, but the 
>differences aren't as immediately apparent as switching between 
>windows, so I'm afraid I'll miss something.
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comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread Robert Lauriston
I inherited this project and it'll take me a while to figure out what
the correct variables are. In the meantime, I need to start updating
it for the next release, and I have to avoid accidentally causing
errors by overwriting inconsistently used variables.

I have SnagIt so that's an option.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Writer  wrote:
> Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the 
> variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that they 
> are using the same variables.


Cleaning up color definitions

2012-07-09 Thread Gillian Flato
George,

It didn't work. I got an error message.

-Gillian

From: Georg Eck [mailto:e...@squidds.de]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:14 AM
To: Gillian Flato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Cleaning up color definitions

Hi Gillian,

please test the feature: 'Formats' of TOOLBOX for FrameMaker 5 to 9 
(www.toolboxforme.com<http://www.toolboxforme.com>)
or Finalyser for FrameMaker 10 
(www.finalyser-shop.com<http://www.finalyser-shop.com>) you can delete the 
unused colors.
See online-help: 
http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/formats.xml.07.1.html


-  Georg

Your questions:

Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like 
BookVars cleans up variables?

Thank You,

Gillian Flato
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Comparing variables in FM files in FM10

2012-07-09 Thread Jang F.M. Graat
Hello Robert,

I have had the same problem often in the past, and one of the annoying things 
about the Variabled pod is that you cannot easily see whether or not a variable 
is actually used. The suggestions done so far on this list did not impress me 
at all, but give me a challenge and I will not rest until I have cooked 
something up.

I wrote an ExtendScript that lists all user-defined variables in two files and 
writes a report as CSV textile, which can be opened and studied in Excel. With 
that you will be able to determine which variables need to be deleted, copied, 
imported and in which direction the copying should be done.

The CSV lists all variable names and shows whether or not they are defined in 
both input files, how many times they are used in both input files and whether 
they have different values in the two files.

If I had a little more time I would include a dialog with checkboxes and an 
option to cleanup both files automatically, but I do have some paid scripting 
work to do and deadlines coming up.

If you are interested, send me an e-mail and I will send you the script. As 
FM10 includes ExtendScript out of the box, you do not need to install anything 
to run it. I will also see if Adobe wants to make the script available on their 
site somewhere. It might be handy for more Frame users in this world.

Kind regards from Amsterdam

JANG Communication
Coaching - Copywriting - Consulting
Amsterdam - Netherlands
Tel.  +31 20 755 8466
Cell +31 6 5478 1632
http://www.jang.nl

> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:50:22 +1200
> From: "rebecca officer" 
> To: "Robert Lauriston" ,
>   
> Subject: Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10
> Message-ID: <4FFAA95E02380004AF94 at gwia.alliedtelesyn.co.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Take a screen snapshot of each variable pod and compare them from the 
> snapshots. If you've got snagit, you can even use the scroll capture mode and 
> get the whole pod in one snapshot.
> 
> Cheers
> Rebecca
> 
> 
 Robert Lauriston  7/07/12 09:06 >>>
> I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking
> in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm
> files are the same before I modify one to update the other.
> 
> The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and
> switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but
> (1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays
> only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file
> to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed
> this?)
> 



Cleaning up color definitions

2012-07-09 Thread Combs, Richard
Gillian Flato wrote: 

> George,
> 
> It didn't work. I got an error message.

You're much more likely to get a helpful response if you begin with: 

"It didn't work. I got the following error message: ..." 

:-)

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Another Year of HTML Mapping Page Woes

2012-07-09 Thread Karen Robbins
Book file must have been corrupted. I built a new book file--the 
documents inside were and are fine. The BookHTML reference page has 
appeared. I have hand-edited the first document's HTML mapping table, 
then copied it to that document's BookHTML table (it overflows the 
text box that's already as big as the page, but all the data is there 
even if I can't see it). Resulting HTML conversion works as expected. 
Woo-hoo!

--Karen