On educational discounts documentation issues
Hi Framers: Down here in South Africa I have been trying to get educational discounts for Frame products, like TC4, but so far no luck, but then the fat lady has not sung her FM11 aria yet. There is a long-term, industry-wide aversion to full print documentation. This is a great pity. I am sure this knowledge gap restricts market share of those companies who churn out expensive but undocumented versions of fantastic programs. If the corporation dedicated a professional writer to do a full manual of its product, the product might take off, but no accountant would allow that as there would not be an immediate return on the balance sheet. Much easier to upgrade a pdf manual. By the way, anyone looked at the adobe pdf manuals? They are good, but when you turn to the index (yes, just one) they are incredibly feeble. Ununderstandable from one of the industry`s best indexing programs. Would not know where to start? Well I think this listserv's archive would be a pretty good place to start. Even a list of common problems and their solutions might make for a significant missing manual. I also do not understand why nobody from Adobe watches this space and comments. Disconcerting to say the least. Cobbler, keep to your last. Rob Shell Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: On educational discounts documentation issues
Rob Shell wrote: I also do not understand why nobody from Adobe watches this space and comments. Disconcerting to say the least. Cobbler, keep to your last. I count four posts from Adobe Framemaker employees in the past week. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Template Override Madness
Hi, all. I have been struggling with the Remove Overrides issue with the cover page template for our user guides. It has a busy first page with a lot of text flows, graphics, variables, etc. I could not identify the variation between the body page and the master page, so I decided to create a brand new file based on the template file. If the new one was clean, I would ditch the original and rename this one as the template file. I created a new file and it looked great -- but it stiill has overrides! The new file should use the master page as the basis for the body cover page, correct? And since I haven't touched the brand new body cover page, I can't have created any overrides. Yes NO! I still get the message. Other than flipping back and forth between the Body page and the Master page in the original template file and hoping to spot the difference, I have no idea how to fix this. All suggestions gratefully received. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Template Override Madness
Sorry, should have said I am using FM 10 in a Win 7 environment. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Re: Template Override Madness
Further update: I downloaded, installed, and ran HuntOverrides and fixed all paragraph overrides. A very nice tool! (http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/). However, it did not solve the problem. I suppose there must be other overrides, such as tweaked text frames, still in play. I don't know how to identify them, nor does creating a new document based on the template eliminate them. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Template Override Madness
When FrameMaker complains about overrides in relation to master pages, it is not talking about character format or paragraph format overides. Instead, it is talking about page layout overrides, such as the number, dimensions, and/or position of text frames, room for sideheads, etc. -Fred Ridder Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:24:32 -0500 From: ma...@verizon.net To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Re: Template Override Madness Further update: I downloaded, installed, and ran HuntOverrides and fixed all paragraph overrides. A very nice tool! (http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/). However, it did not solve the problem. I suppose there must be other overrides, such as tweaked text frames, still in play. I don't know how to identify them, nor does creating a new document based on the template eliminate them. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Deleting conditions across a book - Frame 10
Hi all Does anyone know of a way to delete conditional tags across a book using Frame 10? I used the PGF Whopper plugin for Frame 8 but can't find anything for version 10. I know you can go into each file and delete each tag individually but it's very time consuming. Thanks in advance Laura Laura Fergusson Technical Author Digital Barriers | Video Management Systems Mid Breich Farm | Westwood | West Calder | West Lothian EH55 8PL | United Kingdom T +44 (0) 3300 881884 | F +44 870 490 1557 E laura.fergus...@digitalbarriers.com www.digitalbarriers.com | www.codestuff.net Digital Barriers e-Mail Confidentiality and Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Digital Barriers plc is a company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 7149547. Registered office: Enterprise House, 1-2 Hatfields, London SE1 9PG, United Kingdom. For further information about Digital Barriers, please visit www.digitalbarriers.comhttp://www.digitalbarriers.com/. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
templates showing usage WAS: Hello (FM 11 Documentation)
I think David is really right on the money with these comments on the templates. Let's hope the Adobe is listening on this one. They could get started now, releasing them periodically. Then by FM 12 they would have a real bang-up set of them to come out with the new release. In fact, they could set up a place where such things could be contributed for review and modification by their engineers (if they saw fit). Craig Ede -Original Message- What I think gives more bang for the buck--again, assuming we can't have it all--is doing more and better work on the provided templates. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: educational pricing
Hello Everyone, I am the product manager for FrameMaker and I wanted to clear the confusion around educational pricing for FrameMaker. Here is some information you will find useful * Adobe tech comm products are NOT eligible for the ADOBE STUDENT - TEACHER pricing (this applies to several other Adobe products as well). * The good news is that TCS 4, FM 11, RH 10 continue to be offered in the EDUCATION segment via LICENSING ONLY channel, so that educational institutions can purchase in bulk at discounted rates. Please visit the Adobe Education Volume Licensing website for more details: http://www.adobe.com/volume-licensing/education/transactional-licensing-program.html * FM 11 can be purchased @ the discounted rate of US$399 under the EDUCATION LICENSING program in NA here: http://volumelicensing.adobe.com/store/adbeedus/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.252400300 * Please visit the Adobe EDUCATION LICENSING STORE home page in NA for a list of all the Adobe products offered at discounted rates: http://volumelicensing.adobe.com/store/adbeedus/DisplayCategoryProductListPage/categoryID.55438900 Please feel free to reach out to the following folks for any NA sales related queries. * Tom Aldous, Director - Product Evangelism Business Development, (Cell) 508-386-6943, tald...@adobe.com * Tom Deem, Manager - Business Development, (Office) 206-675-7076, (Cell) 206-240-8810, td...@adobe.com * David Keever, Manager - Business Development, (Cell) 919-218-7497, dkee...@adobe.com * Dustin Vaughn, Manager - Business Development, dvau...@adobe.com Hope it clarifies the confusion. Regards, Kapil Verma -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:41 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: educational pricing On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:30:01 -0700, Cal Callahan cala...@san.rr.com wrote: Rick's right as usual. I'm an unemployed (but studious) tech writer who will not be upgrading anytime soon. Mif2Go still has educational pricing, and it's hard to beat. The discount is 100%. ;-) It applies to students, faculty, and staff. We have the same deal for unemployed, for underemployed consultants (you decide if you are), for most nonprofits, and for developers and documenters of FOSS. To use this free offer, create an account on: http://mif2go.com and in the Bio, include a few words about which group of free users you're in. Or use the form in the left menu after your account is activated, under Free offer. Note that our free users are fully supported, same as paid. And if you do get FM 11, Mif2Go does support it, along with every Frame version since 5.5.6, on every Windows version since NT, including in VMs. Enjoy! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as kve...@adobe.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kverma%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
On educational discounts & documentation issues
Rob Shell wrote: > I also do not understand why nobody from Adobe watches this space and > comments. Disconcerting to say the least. Cobbler, keep to your last. I count four posts from Adobe Framemaker employees in the past week. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Template Override Madness
Hi, all. I have been struggling with the "Remove Overrides" issue with the cover page template for our user guides. It has a busy first page with a lot of text flows, graphics, variables, etc. I could not identify the variation between the body page and the master page, so I decided to create a brand new file based on the template file. If the new one was clean, I would ditch the original and rename this one as the template file. I created a new file and it looked great -- but it stiill has overrides! The new file should use the master page as the basis for the body cover page, correct? And since I haven't touched the brand new body cover page, I can't have created any overrides. Yes NO! I still get the message. Other than flipping back and forth between the Body page and the Master page in the original template file and hoping to spot the difference, I have no idea how to fix this. All suggestions gratefully received. --Nancy
Template Override Madness
Sorry, should have said I am using FM 10 in a Win 7 environment. --Nancy
Template Override Madness
Further update: I downloaded, installed, and ran HuntOverrides and fixed all paragraph overrides. A very nice tool! (http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/). However, it did not solve the problem. I suppose there must be other overrides, such as tweaked text frames, still in play. I don't know how to identify them, nor does creating a new document based on the template eliminate them. --Nancy
Template Override Madness
When FrameMaker complains about overrides in relation to master pages, it is not talking about character format or paragraph format overides. Instead, it is talking about page layout overrides, such as the number, dimensions, and/or position of text frames, room for sideheads, etc. -Fred Ridder > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:24:32 -0500 > From: maker at verizon.net > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Re: Template Override Madness > > Further update: > > I downloaded, installed, and ran HuntOverrides and fixed all paragraph > overrides. A very nice tool! (http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/). > > However, it did not solve the problem. I suppose there must be other > overrides, such as tweaked text frames, still in play. I don't know how to > identify them, nor does creating a new document based on the template > eliminate them. > > --Nancy -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120801/015dcc72/attachment.html>
educational pricing
Hello Everyone, I am the product manager for FrameMaker and I wanted to clear the confusion around educational pricing for FrameMaker. Here is some information you will find useful * Adobe tech comm products are NOT eligible for the ADOBE STUDENT - TEACHER pricing (this applies to several other Adobe products as well). * The good news is that TCS 4, FM 11, RH 10 continue to be offered in the EDUCATION segment via LICENSING ONLY channel, so that educational institutions can purchase in bulk at discounted rates. Please visit the Adobe Education Volume Licensing website for more details: http://www.adobe.com/volume-licensing/education/transactional-licensing-program.html * FM 11 can be purchased @ the discounted rate of US$399 under the EDUCATION LICENSING program in NA here: http://volumelicensing.adobe.com/store/adbeedus/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.252400300 * Please visit the Adobe EDUCATION LICENSING STORE home page in NA for a list of all the Adobe products offered at discounted rates: http://volumelicensing.adobe.com/store/adbeedus/DisplayCategoryProductListPage/categoryID.55438900 Please feel free to reach out to the following folks for any NA sales related queries. * Tom Aldous, Director - Product Evangelism & Business Development, (Cell) 508-386-6943, taldous at adobe.com * Tom Deem, Manager - Business Development, (Office) 206-675-7076, (Cell) 206-240-8810, tdeem at adobe.com * David Keever, Manager - Business Development, (Cell) 919-218-7497, dkeever at adobe.com * Dustin Vaughn, Manager - Business Development, dvaughn at adobe.com Hope it clarifies the confusion. Regards, Kapil Verma -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:41 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: educational pricing On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:30:01 -0700, Cal Callahan wrote: >Rick's right as usual. I'm an unemployed (but studious) tech writer who >will not be upgrading anytime soon. Mif2Go still has educational pricing, and it's hard to beat. The discount is 100%. ;-) It applies to students, faculty, and staff. We have the same deal for unemployed, for underemployed consultants (you decide if you are), for most nonprofits, and for developers and documenters of FOSS. To use this free offer, create an account on: http://mif2go.com and in the Bio, include a few words about which group of free users you're in. Or use the form in the left menu after your account is activated, under "Free offer". Note that our free users are fully supported, same as paid. And if you do get FM 11, Mif2Go does support it, along with every Frame version since 5.5.6, on every Windows version since NT, including in VMs. Enjoy! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://mif2go.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as kverma at adobe.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kverma%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Template Override Madness
You're sure the overrides aren't on the master or reference pages? When I was cleaning up some legacy docs in FM10 recently, I found that any time a character tag was applied to a whole paragraph it would show up as an override. The only way I know to stop that is a kludge: add a space at the end of the paragraph and close the character tag before it. Alternatively, create additional paragraph tags. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > Further update: > > I downloaded, installed, and ran HuntOverrides and fixed all paragraph > overrides. A very nice tool! (http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/). > > However, it did not solve the problem. I suppose there must be other > overrides, such as tweaked text frames, still in play. I don't know how to > identify them, nor does creating a new document based on the template > eliminate them.
On educational discounts & documentation issues
Hi Framers: Down here in South Africa I have been trying to get educational discounts for Frame products, like TC4, but so far no luck, but then the fat lady has not sung her FM11 aria yet. There is a long-term, industry-wide aversion to full print documentation. This is a great pity. I am sure this knowledge gap restricts market share of those companies who churn out expensive but undocumented versions of fantastic programs. If the corporation dedicated a professional writer to do a full manual of its product, the product might take off, but no accountant would allow that as there would not be an immediate return on the balance sheet. Much easier to upgrade a pdf manual. By the way, anyone looked at the adobe pdf manuals? They are good, but when you turn to the index (yes, just one) they are incredibly feeble. Ununderstandable from one of the industry`s best indexing programs. Would not know where to start? Well I think this listserv's archive would be a pretty good place to start. Even a list of common problems and their solutions might make for a significant "missing" manual. I also do not understand why nobody from Adobe watches this space and comments. Disconcerting to say the least. Cobbler, keep to your last. Rob Shell Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd
