FrameMaker 10.x and Windows 8?
I looked back through list discussions and I don't see any discussion of problems/questions/experiences using FrameMaker 10.x and Windows 8... actually I'm not seeing discussions of ANY version of Frame being used with Win8. While I am still using Windows 7 Enterprise, I'm looking at a desktop upgrade later this year and depending on when that occurs, it very well may be that I am forced to use Windows 8 (organizational standards; I won't have an option to remain on Win7). Any reports from the field? Thanks in advance. -Dan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable
Hi Keith, Try this, Wherever the Framemaker document or book is on your system, copy the complete stuff from there and paste it in Local Disk C:/ of the computer, make sure there is no folder tree like C:/documents/Keith/keith.fm...,the Framemaker document should be in the root folder without any folder tree like only in C:/ Once you have the Framemaker document there, open Robohelp and link the Framemaker document from the new location C:/ and that should fix all your issues with XREF's. Let me know it that worked or not. Regards Harpreet Adobe Systems. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: 16 January 2013 19:25 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable Two avenues of attack for this - one is to examine the places it worked where it didn't in both the resulting RH topic source FM file - are some xrefs by paragraph and others by marker tag? Conditional text at play here? There has to be something going on in or around the xref to make it convert right/wrong sometimes. The second area would be to do an experiment where you create a new project in RH, use your .isf file from your linked project, and do an import of the FM content (checking to see that all the conversion settings are set to see 'ABC') and see if linking vs. importing is at the source of the problem. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hansen Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:59 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: TCS: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable Hello, I'm using FrameMaker 11 and RoboHelp 10 in Adobe Technical Communication Suite (TCS) 4. My FrameMaker book is linked to RoboHelp. Assume I have a cross ref like this in Frame: See ABC on page 101. RoboHelp is supposed to convert the cross ref into a hyperlink like this: See ABC. Most of my cross-references are converted correctly, but some are not. (The on page 101 is still there in RoboHelp and the generated WebHelp project.) In Frame, two references may use the same cross reference format... but RoboHelp converts the one cross ref OK but not the other. In fact, I've even copied a cross ref and pasted it into another location in the Frame file. The original cross ref converts OK, but the copied one does not! Anyone else encountered this problem? Any solutions? Thanks much. Keith NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!
And while we are on the topic of fonts and FrameMaker, can someone suggest a reasonable way to get the ZapfDingbat font cheaply, since the default FM installation often complains about this font not being available (even using their templates). BTW: I understand Adobe not wanting to license it with its products anymore, but the default replacement that FM substitutes is completely silly. From: syed.hos...@aeris.net To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:08:53 -0800 Subject: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way! Hi, all (particularly Dov Isaacs, as I seem to remember that you know a lot about Adobe fonts)... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but ... related in a way!
Adobe must have done business with them as they now own Macromedia's old product Fontographer. Craig From: syed.hos...@aeris.net To: i...@mikewickham.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:23:18 -0800 Subject: RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but ... related in a way! Thanks for that link, Mike. I will take a look at that site. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker9 / XML
I use MIF2Go. I can post my settings if you want them. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Ian McDonald i...@aptb2b.co.uk wrote: Hello fellow Framers, I'm looking to save small chunks of a FM9 file (9 chapter book, 600 pages) as XML for use in a standard text/content library. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5
Hi All, I have TCS 2.5, which I use to create a large documentation set that includes several manuals. I created a pdf that acts as the documentation set overview, and it has links (cross-references in the source FM file) to major topics in each of the manuals. When I open the pdf on a Windows 7 64 bit OS, all the links in this pdf work correctly. When I open the same pdf on a RHEL 5 64 bit OS, some of the links work, and some of them don't. I have tried recreating the cross-references in FrameMaker, and that actually did get rid of some of the broken links. But I still have a pesky few that I can't get to work. When I say they don't work, I mean when you click on them, nothing happens. I'm using Acrobat Reader 9.5.3 on RHEL5 and Reader X on Windows. Any ideas as to why a link would work on Windows but not RHEL5? Thanks for your help. Martha Lee ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Word count at the .book level? (FM11)
Greetings all, We will be providing word counts for future documents. I know how to do a wordcount inside an .FM file with the Document Reports Utility -- but is there a way to do the same across an entire .BOOK file? We don't have access to FrameScriptin the past we couldn't even get funding for plug-ins from Silicon Prairie Software, but so far their readability add-on is the only thing I can spot. (Side rant: this is why I've been off the list for so many years -- my department has been lagging so far behind the editions that I didn't have much to offer. We're finally at FM11...and I won't let myself get started on the age of my RoboHelp...) Thanks and see you online, MaryHS ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Word count at the .book level? (FM11)
Now that you're on FM11, you have ExtendScript built in for free, you know ;) Check out Rick Quattro's webinar on ExtendScript that he gave this week. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sheahan Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:17 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Word count at the .book level? (FM11) Greetings all, We will be providing word counts for future documents. I know how to do a wordcount inside an .FM file with the Document Reports Utility -- but is there a way to do the same across an entire .BOOK file? We don't have access to FrameScriptin the past we couldn't even get funding for plug-ins from Silicon Prairie Software, but so far their readability add-on is the only thing I can spot. (Side rant: this is why I've been off the list for so many years -- my department has been lagging so far behind the editions that I didn't have much to offer. We're finally at FM11...and I won't let myself get started on the age of my RoboHelp...) Thanks and see you online, MaryHS ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Word count at the .book level? (FM11)
Here is a link to the webinar information and replay: http://frameautomation.com/2013/01/16/beginning-framemaker-scripting-webinar -january-15-2013/ Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: Beginning FrameMaker Scripting - Functions
Please register for FrameMaker Scripting Webinar - Functions on Jan 22, 2013 11:00 AM EST at: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/1914904301135713536 This is part 2 of the Beginning FrameMaker Scripting series. In part 1 we worked with selections in a document. Part 2 will show you how to organize your code into functions, making testing, troubleshooting, and reuse much easier. This is a beginner-level webinar that will give you good principles for learning scripting. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar. Brought to you by GoToWebinarR Webinars Made EasyR ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Word count at the .book level? (FM11)
Thanks, I had missed that -- time to go check it out. --- On Thu, 1/17/13, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote: From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com Subject: RE: Word count at the .book level? (FM11) To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Thursday, January 17, 2013, 9:24 AM Now that you're on FM11, you have ExtendScript built in for free, you know ;) Check out Rick Quattro's webinar on ExtendScript that he gave this week. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sheahan Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:17 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Word count at the .book level? (FM11) Greetings all, We will be providing word counts for future documents. I know how to do a wordcount inside an .FM file with the Document Reports Utility -- but is there a way to do the same across an entire .BOOK file? We don't have access to FrameScriptin the past we couldn't even get funding for plug-ins from Silicon Prairie Software, but so far their readability add-on is the only thing I can spot. (Side rant: this is why I've been off the list for so many years -- my department has been lagging so far behind the editions that I didn't have much to offer. We're finally at FM11...and I won't let myself get started on the age of my RoboHelp...) Thanks and see you online, MaryHS -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mhs...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mhs_tw%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adding Files to New Book
File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., 1frontmatter.fm, 2preface.fm)--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might have 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the book window. I previously had Frame 9. When I chose add files to fill a new book, selected the files as a group, and clicked the Add button, the files appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I had to manually rearrange them. We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to manually rearrange them. What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order without manual intervention? Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Adding Files to New Book
Karen Robbins wrote: I previously had Frame 9. When I chose add files to fill a new book, selected the files as a group, and clicked the Add button, the files appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I had to manually rearrange them. We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to manually rearrange them. What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order without manual intervention? I can't speak to FM 11, and I've never seen the half and half behavior. But I recall that the order in which they appear is the reverse of the order in which they're selected, with the exception of the first or last selected (I don't recall which). And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. That is, the same behavior occurred when selecting multiple files to add to an email message, etc. Try selecting in reverse order -- that is, select file 10 first and then shift-click file 1. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Adding Files to New Book
Re: And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. I should have pointed out explicitly what's implied by that statement: A change in Windows version may be more of a factor than a change in FM version. Did your version of Windows change when you went from FM 9 to FM 11? (Even a service pack could be a factor.) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adding Files to New Book
That works! Thank you. But... what odd behavior even for an OS. :-) --Karen On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.comwrote: File Add Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as usual. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote: File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., 1frontmatter.fm, 2preface.fm)--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might have 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the book window. I previously had Frame 9. When I chose add files to fill a new book, selected the files as a group, and clicked the Add button, the files appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I had to manually rearrange them. We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to manually rearrange them. What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order without manual intervention? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker 10.x and Windows 8?
It may be a slight exaggeration to say that no competent corporate IT department will approve the use of Windows 8 until next year. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adding Files to New Book
File Add Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as usual. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote: File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., 1frontmatter.fm, 2preface.fm)--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might have 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the book window. I previously had Frame 9. When I chose add files to fill a new book, selected the files as a group, and clicked the Add button, the files appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I had to manually rearrange them. We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to manually rearrange them. What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order without manual intervention? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adding Files to New Book
The file order has always been reversed for me when adding multiple files to a book going back to Frame 7 and possibly even Frame 5.5 which I learned back in 1998). And it didn't matter if it was Windows 98 or Windows XP (currently and for as long as possible). -- Ken in Atlanta From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com To: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com; Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thu, January 17, 2013 3:26:01 PM Subject: RE: Adding Files to New Book Re: And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. I should have pointed out explicitly what's implied by that statement: A change in Windows version may be more of a factor than a change in FM version. Did your version of Windows change when you went from FM 9 to FM 11? (Even a service pack could be a factor.) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as poshe...@bellsouth.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/poshedly%40bellsouth.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adding Files to New Book
Yeah, it is the opposite of what you'd expect. In this case, it's Microsoft's fault, not Adobe's. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote: That works! Thank you. But... what odd behavior even for an OS. :-) --Karen On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: File Add Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as usual. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!
Exactly what is the problem you have with Adobe Pi? Adobe Pi was designed to serve as a substitute for Zapf Dingbats originally for Acrobat and Reader and then for other Adobe applications. Although the design of each of the glyphs is not identical, Adobe Pi does do a fairly good job as a substitute and in some cases, the glyphs are much more modern looking than Zapf Dingbat's highly dated look. If you really want ITC Zapf Dingbats, you really need to look no further than any printer you have that has Adobe PostScript. Each such printer should have a host software package that includes copies of all the printer resident fonts, including the Type 1 version of ITC Zapf Dingbats for use on computers using the particular printer. Problem solved! - Dov [cid:image001.png@01CDF4FE.FBFD6290] Dov Isaacs Principal Scientist Adobe Systems Incorporated +1 408.536.2896 (tel) +1 408.242.5161 (cell) isa...@adobe.commailto:isa...@adobe.com 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA http://www.adobe.comhttp://www.adobe.com/ Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy. There is no need to feel guilty about printing! Paper is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-MOBILE.corp.adobe.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:26 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way! I had a confusing problem with the three Zapf bullets my inherited templates use for nested lists not rendering. Eventually I figured out that the Type 1 font had never been installed on my computer because the master font directory was missing the .pfb file. I didn't really want to install such an old font so I tried font replacement of Zapfdingbat with ZapfDingbats BT, that didn't work because the character set is not the same. Eventually I decided to use Arial Black's Unicode characters 2022, 25E6, and 25AA instead. Why Adobe mapped Zapf to Adobe Pi Std in the first place ... ___ inline: image001.png___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5
Please repeat after me, PDF is a binary file format! You cannot create, edit, or in most cases readily examine a PDF file in an text editor. And in many if not most cases, content streams are internally compressed. In terms of Martha's original issue, in theory such cross reference links should work cross platform. If the PDF file was being corrupted going cross-platform, you'd have many more problems than hyperlinks that don't respond. Perhaps there is an issue of Reader not properly receiving the mouse clicks. An experiment you might want to try is increasing the display magnification for a page area with problematic links and see if the links still act dead. If not, my hypothesis about receiving the mouse clicks may be correct. Otherwise you may have stumbled onto a new bug which you should report to Adobe (bug report form available from the Adobe website - be prepared to provide sample offending PDF file). - Dov [cid:image001.png@01CDF500.43EF8C30] Dov Isaacs Principal Scientist Adobe Systems Incorporated +1 408.536.2896 (tel) +1 408.242.5161 (cell) isa...@adobe.commailto:isa...@adobe.com 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA http://www.adobe.comhttp://www.adobe.com/ Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy. There is no need to feel guilty about printing! Paper is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-MOBILE.corp.adobe.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:28 AM To: Martha Lee; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5 Is the PDF source readable in a text editor? On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Martha Lee marthale...@gmail.commailto:marthale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have TCS 2.5, which I use to create a large documentation set that includes several manuals. I created a pdf that acts as the documentation set overview, and it has links (cross-references in the source FM file) to major topics in each of the manuals. When I open the pdf on a Windows 7 64 bit OS, all the links in this pdf work correctly. When I open the same pdf on a RHEL 5 64 bit OS, some of the links work, and some of them don't. I have tried recreating the cross-references in FrameMaker, and that actually did get rid of some of the broken links. But I still have a pesky few that I can't get to work. When I say they don't work, I mean when you click on them, nothing happens. I'm using Acrobat Reader 9.5.3 on RHEL5 and Reader X on Windows. Any ideas as to why a link would work on Windows but not RHEL5? Thanks for your help. inline: image001.png___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5
Hi All, I have TCS 2.5, which I use to create a large documentation set that includes several manuals. I created a pdf that acts as the documentation set overview, and it has links (cross-references in the source FM file) to major topics in each of the manuals. When I open the pdf on a Windows 7 64 bit OS, all the links in this pdf work correctly. When I open the same pdf on a RHEL 5 64 bit OS, some of the links work, and some of them don't. I have tried recreating the cross-references in FrameMaker, and that actually did get rid of some of the broken links. But I still have a pesky few that I can't get to work. When I say they don't work, I mean when you click on them, nothing happens. I'm using Acrobat Reader 9.5.3 on RHEL5 and Reader X on Windows. Any ideas as to why a link would work on Windows but not RHEL5? Thanks for your help. Martha Lee -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/4bf70f62/attachment.html>
Word count at the .book level? (FM11)
Greetings all, ? We will be providing word counts for future documents. I know how to do a wordcount inside an .FM file with the Document Reports Utility -- but is there a way to do the same across an entire .BOOK file?? ? We don't have access to FrameScriptin the past we couldn't even get funding for plug-ins from Silicon Prairie Software, but so far their readability add-on is the only thing I can spot. ? (Side rant: this is why I've been off the list for so many years -- my department has been lagging so far behind the editions that I didn't have much to offer. We're finally at FM11...and I won't let myself get started on the age of my RoboHelp...) ? Thanks and see you online, MaryHS ? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/85e8f8a4/attachment.html>
Word count at the .book level? (FM11)
Now that you're on FM11, you have ExtendScript built in for free, you know ;>) Check out Rick Quattro's webinar on ExtendScript that he gave this week. From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sheahan Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:17 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Word count at the .book level? (FM11) Greetings all, We will be providing word counts for future documents. I know how to do a wordcount inside an .FM file with the Document Reports Utility -- but is there a way to do the same across an entire .BOOK file? We don't have access to FrameScriptin the past we couldn't even get funding for plug-ins from Silicon Prairie Software, but so far their readability add-on is the only thing I can spot. (Side rant: this is why I've been off the list for so many years -- my department has been lagging so far behind the editions that I didn't have much to offer. We're finally at FM11...and I won't let myself get started on the age of my RoboHelp...) Thanks and see you online, MaryHS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/86220120/attachment.html>
Word count at the .book level? (FM11)
Here is a link to the webinar information and replay: http://frameautomation.com/2013/01/16/beginning-framemaker-scripting-webinar -january-15-2013/ Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/9774dc84/attachment.html>
ANN: Beginning FrameMaker Scripting - Functions
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Word count at the .book level? (FM11)
Thanks, I had missed that -- time to go check it out. --- On Thu, 1/17/13, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: From: Jeff Coatsworth <jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com> Subject: RE: Word count at the .book level? (FM11) To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Date: Thursday, January 17, 2013, 9:24 AM Now that you're on FM11, you have ExtendScript built in for free, you know ;>) ? Check out Rick Quattro's webinar on ExtendScript that he gave this week. From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sheahan Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:17 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Word count at the .book level? (FM11) Greetings all, ? We will be providing word counts for future documents. I know how to do a wordcount inside an .FM file with the Document Reports Utility -- but is there a way to do the same across an entire .BOOK file?? ? We don't have access to FrameScriptin the past we couldn't even get funding for plug-ins from Silicon Prairie Software, but so far their readability add-on is the only thing I can spot. ? (Side rant: this is why I've been off the list for so many years -- my department has been lagging so far behind the editions that I didn't have much to offer. We're finally at FM11...and I won't let myself get started on the age of my RoboHelp...) ? Thanks and see you online, MaryHS ? -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mhs_tw at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mhs_tw%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/2137b428/attachment.html>
Adding Files to New Book
File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., "1frontmatter.fm", "2preface.fm")--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might have 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the book window. I previously had Frame 9. When I chose "add files" to fill a new book, selected the files as a group, and clicked the "Add" button, the files appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I had to manually rearrange them. We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to manually rearrange them. What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order without manual intervention? Thanks, Karen -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/94e3e4dc/attachment.html>
Adding Files to New Book
Karen Robbins wrote: > I previously had Frame 9. When I chose "add files" to fill a new book, > selected the files as a group, and clicked the "Add" button, the files > appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) were > ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book > window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I had > to manually rearrange them. > > We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I imported > my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files listed > vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to manually > rearrange them. > > What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order > without manual intervention? I can't speak to FM 11, and I've never seen the "half and half" behavior. But I recall that the order in which they appear is the reverse of the order in which they're selected, with the exception of the first or last selected (I don't recall which). And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. That is, the same behavior occurred when selecting multiple files to add to an email message, etc. Try selecting in reverse order -- that is, select file 10 first and then shift-click file 1. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Adding Files to New Book
Re: > And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. I should have pointed out explicitly what's implied by that statement: A change in Windows version may be more of a factor than a change in FM version. Did your version of Windows change when you went from FM 9 to FM 11? (Even a service pack could be a factor.) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Adding Files to New Book
That works! Thank you. But... what odd behavior even for an OS. :-) --Karen On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > File > Add > Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as > usual. > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Karen Robbins > wrote: > > File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., " > 1frontmatter.fm", > > "2preface.fm")--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might > have > > 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the > book > > window. > > > > I previously had Frame 9. When I chose "add files" to fill a new book, > > selected the files as a group, and clicked the "Add" button, the files > > appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) > > were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the > book > > window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I > > had to manually rearrange them. > > > > We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I > > imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files > > listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to > > manually rearrange them. > > > > What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order > > without manual intervention? > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/5e5f60bb/attachment.html>
FrameMaker 10.x and Windows 8?
It may be a slight exaggeration to say that no competent corporate IT department will approve the use of Windows 8 until next year.
Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!
I had a confusing problem with the three Zapf bullets my inherited templates use for nested lists not rendering. Eventually I figured out that the Type 1 font had never been installed on my computer because the master font directory was missing the .pfb file. I didn't really want to install such an old font so I tried font replacement of Zapfdingbat with ZapfDingbats BT, that didn't work because the character set is not the same. Eventually I decided to use Arial Black's Unicode characters 2022, 25E6, and 25AA instead. Why Adobe mapped Zapf to Adobe Pi Std in the first place ...
Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5
Is the PDF source readable in a text editor? On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Martha Lee wrote: > Hi All, > > I have TCS 2.5, which I use to create a large documentation set that > includes several manuals. I created a pdf that acts as the documentation set > overview, and it has links (cross-references in the source FM file) to major > topics in each of the manuals. When I open the pdf on a Windows 7 64 bit OS, > all the links in this pdf work correctly. When I open the same pdf on a > RHEL 5 64 bit OS, some of the links work, and some of them don't. I have > tried recreating the cross-references in FrameMaker, and that actually did > get rid of some of the broken links. But I still have a pesky few that I > can't get to work. When I say they don't work, I mean when you click on > them, nothing happens. I'm using Acrobat Reader 9.5.3 on RHEL5 and Reader X > on Windows. Any ideas as to why a link would work on Windows but not RHEL5? > > Thanks for your help.
Adding Files to New Book
File > Add > Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as usual. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Karen Robbins wrote: > File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., "1frontmatter.fm", > "2preface.fm")--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might have > 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the book > window. > > I previously had Frame 9. When I chose "add files" to fill a new book, > selected the files as a group, and clicked the "Add" button, the files > appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) > were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book > window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I > had to manually rearrange them. > > We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I > imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files > listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to > manually rearrange them. > > What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order > without manual intervention?
Adding Files to New Book
The file order has always been reversed for me when adding multiple files to a book going back to Frame 7 and possibly even Frame 5.5 which I learned back in 1998). And it didn't matter if it was Windows 98 or Windows XP (currently and for as long as possible). -- Ken in Atlanta From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.co...@polycom.com> To: "Combs, Richard" ; Karen Robbins ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Thu, January 17, 2013 3:26:01 PM Subject: RE: Adding Files to New Book Re: > And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. I should have pointed out explicitly what's implied by that statement: A change in Windows version may be more of a factor than a change in FM version. Did your version of Windows change when you went from FM 9 to FM 11? (Even a service pack could be a factor.) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as poshedly at bellsouth.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/poshedly%40bellsouth.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/5c1bb1bc/attachment.html>
Adding Files to New Book
Yeah, it is the opposite of what you'd expect. In this case, it's Microsoft's fault, not Adobe's. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Karen Robbins wrote: > That works! Thank you. But... what odd behavior even for an OS. :-) > > --Karen > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston > wrote: >> >> File > Add > Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as >> usual.
Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!
Exactly what is the problem you have with Adobe Pi? Adobe Pi was designed to serve as a substitute for Zapf Dingbats originally for Acrobat and Reader and then for other Adobe applications. Although the design of each of the glyphs is not identical, Adobe Pi does do a fairly good job as a substitute and in some cases, the glyphs are much more modern looking than Zapf Dingbat's highly dated look. If you really want ITC Zapf Dingbats, you really need to look no further than any printer you have that has Adobe PostScript. Each such printer should have a host software package that includes copies of all the printer resident fonts, including the Type 1 version of ITC Zapf Dingbats for use on computers using the particular printer. Problem solved! - Dov [cid:image001.png at 01CDF4FE.FBFD6290] Dov Isaacs Principal Scientist Adobe Systems Incorporated +1 408.536.2896 (tel) +1 408.242.5161 (cell) isaacs at adobe.com<mailto:isaacs at adobe.com> 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA http://www.adobe.com<http://www.adobe.com/> Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy. There is no need to feel guilty about printing! Paper is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-MOBILE.corp.adobe.com From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:26 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way! I had a confusing problem with the three Zapf bullets my inherited templates use for nested lists not rendering. Eventually I figured out that the Type 1 font had never been installed on my computer because the master font directory was missing the .pfb file. I didn't really want to install such an old font so I tried font replacement of Zapfdingbat with ZapfDingbats BT, that didn't work because the character set is not the same. Eventually I decided to use Arial Black's Unicode characters 2022, 25E6, and 25AA instead. Why Adobe mapped Zapf to Adobe Pi Std in the first place ... ___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/7acf48fc/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 871 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/7acf48fc/attachment.png>
Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5
Please repeat after me, "PDF is a binary file format!" You cannot create, edit, or in most cases readily examine a PDF file in an "text editor." And in many if not most cases, content streams are internally compressed. In terms of Martha's original issue, in theory such cross reference links should work cross platform. If the PDF file was being corrupted going cross-platform, you'd have many more problems than hyperlinks that don't respond. Perhaps there is an issue of Reader not properly receiving the mouse clicks. An experiment you might want to try is increasing the display magnification for a page area with problematic links and see if the links still act dead. If not, my hypothesis about receiving the mouse clicks may be correct. Otherwise you may have stumbled onto a new bug which you should report to Adobe (bug report form available from the Adobe website - be prepared to provide sample offending PDF file). - Dov [cid:image001.png at 01CDF500.43EF8C30] Dov Isaacs Principal Scientist Adobe Systems Incorporated +1 408.536.2896 (tel) +1 408.242.5161 (cell) isaacs at adobe.com<mailto:isaacs at adobe.com> 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA http://www.adobe.com<http://www.adobe.com/> Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy. There is no need to feel guilty about printing! Paper is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-MOBILE.corp.adobe.com From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:28 AM To: Martha Lee; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5 Is the PDF source readable in a text editor? On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Martha Lee mailto:marthaleenc at gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi All, > > I have TCS 2.5, which I use to create a large documentation set that > includes several manuals. I created a pdf that acts as the documentation set > overview, and it has links (cross-references in the source FM file) to major > topics in each of the manuals. When I open the pdf on a Windows 7 64 bit OS, > all the links in this pdf work correctly. When I open the same pdf on a > RHEL 5 64 bit OS, some of the links work, and some of them don't. I have > tried recreating the cross-references in FrameMaker, and that actually did > get rid of some of the broken links. But I still have a pesky few that I > can't get to work. When I say they don't work, I mean when you click on > them, nothing happens. I'm using Acrobat Reader 9.5.3 on RHEL5 and Reader X > on Windows. Any ideas as to why a link would work on Windows but not RHEL5? > > Thanks for your help. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/a6df2501/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 871 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130117/a6df2501/attachment.png>
