RE: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files
Hi Peter, When you open a FrameMaker binary file with a text editor, it will show the FrameMaker version of this file in the very first line. In my case: MakerFile 10.0 How does your first line look like? Best regards Winfried From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Schorer Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:25 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be opened in Frame 11. This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts. For me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe. Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files! That wasn't done by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never converted a Frame file into an MS Word file. I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking discovery. Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing all those old files to be opened as Text files. This is how I always opened them in the past. Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible. I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. -- Peter Schorer This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: 5. Frame 11 catastrophe, framers Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10
This example demonstrates that Frame needs to use a standard format. I suggest EPUB using XHTML5 and CSS3. Adobe might be pleasantly surprised that they could successfully compete against Microsoft Word. This leads to the question of what are the capabilities of Frame 11 to import XML schemas written in XSD. Bob Leif -- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 01:25:04 -0800 From: Peter Schorer petescho...@gmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files Message-ID: 004601ce1ca7$fcadae40$f6090ac0$@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be opened in Frame 11. This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts. For me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe. Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files! That wasn't done by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never converted a Frame file into an MS Word file. I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking discovery. Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing all those old files to be opened as Text files. This is how I always opened them in the past. Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible. I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. -- Peter Schorer -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130309/1bf7d872 /attachment-0001.html -- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 13:05:30 -0800 From: B2Streamlines/Bill Bunny Kuhlman bsqua...@b2streamlines.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Does a FrameMaker Reader/Viewer exist? Message-ID: p0624081ecd61500a3fec@[192.168.0.5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Graeme, We're running FrameMaker 7 Mac on a MacBook Pro 17 using SheepShaver. Works very well. There is a very active Yahoo! group wordperfectmac which offers SheepShaver install packages and information on more elaborate install packages with WordPerfect included. It's not at all hard to add the FrameMaker 7 app to that environment. Not an exceptional solution, but a viable work-around. Hope that helps. It does now. I can't open any of my 14 years worth of FM docs on the Macs I spend most of my time on nowadays. Something like FrameViewer would be very useful, just to remind myself of the content of the docs. Not that I have the slightest expectation of Adobe ever considering such a product. Bill Bunny Kuhlman B2Streamlines http://www.b2streamlines.com RC Soaring Digest http://www.rcsoaringdigest.com -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers. To unsubscribe send a blank email to http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. End of framers Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 *** ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files
FYI -- one of the hallmarks of FrameMaker is the stability of its file format over the years. As with the others who have previously posted, I have opened very old versions of FrameMaker (e.g. 3.5) in FrameMaker 9 while still in the translation industry. Incidentally, if you take a current or recent version of FrameMaker, you can save an unstructured FM doc to MIF, and then open that MIF in an older version of FrameMaker. Although you will get many error messages, you will only lose any newer formatting or doc features not supported in the newer version. The document content will remain intact. Note: save as MIF and opening in an older version is not intended nor supported as a round trip between versions, but it does work well. p.s. if the files you were working with are in some sort of *.doc format (Word) you may try saving them to RTF, then open that in FrameMaker -- you find that it will work better. _ Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files FrameMaker 11 is backward compatible with old .FM files and FrameMaker doesn't have the capability to create a Word .DOC file. FrameMaker can save as a .RTF file, which Word can read-- but various objects and FrameMaker features will be lost in translation. Most importantly, saving as .RTF won't overwrite the original .FM file. So if your .FM files are gone and something is there in their place, blame a human being, not FrameMaker. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mhoff...@adobe.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mhoffman%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: March 14 Webinar on FrameMaker publishing to tables via TCS defaults
TWEET: March 14 webinar on Tech Comm Suite out of the box publishing HTML5 to Tablets via RoboHelp adobe.ly/Z9FL2Lhttp://adobe.ly/Z9FL2L Several past webinars have focused on the mechanics of setting up a custom project with your desired layout and features in RoboHelp 10 for publishing to multiscreen HTML5 for tablets and other devices. This webinar will spend some time showing just how much you can do via Tech Comm Suite, when publishing from FrameMaker source files, with absolutely no set up at all! When Adobe Tech Comm Suite is installed, special RoboHelp default project files are installed within FrameMaker, allowing you to get decent HTML5 output with the publish function, based on styles established in FrameMaker. Although you may wish to customize these built-in files, or build your own RoboHelp project to guide layout and formatting, this webinar will show you: * How styles are auto mapped out of the box with the DEFAULT RoboHelp project in FrameMaker * Some document types you may wish to avoid * How to make allowances for templates defined for paper and PDF when using defaults to publish to HTML5 for tablets. In a nutshell, you can do it too! About the Presenter: Maxwell Hoffmann, Adobe's Global Product Evangelist for Tech Comm Suite, has extensive tech comm publishing experience, having worked for a variety of publishing vendors and translation agencies before coming on board with Adobe. He is a former FrameMaker product marketing manager with Frame Technology (before Adobe acquired the product), and has trained over 1,200 people in scalable publishing solutions over the years. You can register for this webinar at: http://adobe.ly/Z9FL2L Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Save as PDF hangs FrameMaker 11, with PDF cover art
Thank you, Simon! That was exactly the problem! I turned off Microsoft Security Essentials [MSE] and that solved the problem. I first tried to disable the Adobe .exe files - that didn't help. I had to disable MSE. I did alert the folks I had talked to at Adobe support, so hopefully they can post something and be able to support customers with this problem in the future. I can't imagine how you sleuthed this solution in the first place, but I sure am glad you did!! Thanks again! -Shelly Simon wrote .. Are you perhaps using Microsoft Security Essentials [MSE] on your workstation? I have found from experience with customers that the Microsoft Anti-virus Solution is way too aggressive, and was causing FrameMaker and/or Acrobat Distiller to hand while attempting to print any graphics that contained transparency areas. If your company has a different Anti-virus suite available, I recommend uninstalling MSE, and switching. If you don't have that option, you will need to configure MSE to exclude processes FrameMaker.exe, and Acrobat.exe, and perhaps add folder exclusion too. Regards // Simon BUCH On 06/03/2013 04:56, Shelly Schneider wrote: I have cover art using a PDF file. The cover bleeds on all edges. I have been using this from at least Frame 7 up through Frame 10, with no issues. My company purchased FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat Pro 11 for a new 64 bit computer. Frame hangs when I try to Save as PDF or print to .ps using the Adobe PDF printer, both with the latest updates. A one-page frame file with just the cover will hang. Other, smaller pdfs sprinkled throughout my docs cause no problems. If I replace the cover art with a jpg or png file, I can make a pdf, but the quality is not the same. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files
At 09:24 + 11/3/13, Steve Rickaby wrote: Or maybe the file type/extent got changed accidentally, but the contents are still Frame? I should have amplified this. I have had it happen on my system: a bunch of old (Frame 3) files mysteriously acquired a '.doc' extension, but the contents were unchanged and were readable by FrameMaker. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Strange Happenings with Reference Pages
Have you in the past, imported styles from other documents? Alan On 12/03/13 8:25 AM, Karen Robbins wrote: Hi Framers, I went into an older template file and wanted to try mapping some master pages, so I opened the reference pages. There is only one in this file--the footnote/lines reference page. What's even more odd is that many of the examples (Footnote and Hairline to name a couple) had at least 10 copies each of the example line! All sitting on exactly on top of one another. Also, some of the labels/headings for those line styles appear to be doubled-up, slightly offset so they look like I'm seeing double or they have a drop shadow (significantly offset). I don't think this is a screen rendering thing; it really seems to be very obviously a double layer of text on these labels. Any idea what gives? Is this just corruption with age, or would someone had to have deliberately messed with it? And since there doesn't appear to be a reference pages mapping table, is it reasonable to copy the master pages from my old template file into a new document (that does have all the default reference pages and thus includes the UnstructMasterPageMaps table)? Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Strange Happenings with Reference Pages
Hi Karen, You can get the Reference Page you need by choosing Format Page Layout Apply Master Pages. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Karen Robbins Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:25 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Strange Happenings with Reference Pages Hi Framers, I went into an older template file and wanted to try mapping some master pages, so I opened the reference pages. There is only one in this file--the footnote/lines reference page. What's even more odd is that many of the examples (Footnote and Hairline to name a couple) had at least 10 copies each of the example line! All sitting on exactly on top of one another. Also, some of the labels/headings for those line styles appear to be doubled-up, slightly offset so they look like I'm seeing double or they have a drop shadow (significantly offset). I don't think this is a screen rendering thing; it really seems to be very obviously a double layer of text on these labels. Any idea what gives? Is this just corruption with age, or would someone had to have deliberately messed with it? And since there doesn't appear to be a reference pages mapping table, is it reasonable to copy the master pages from my old template file into a new document (that does have all the default reference pages and thus includes the UnstructMasterPageMaps table)? Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks
Hi, guys... Over the next few days, I'll be needing to insert hundreds of hyperlinks. Right now, it is a three step process. Copy and paste the hyperlink. Highlight it, then select Special Hypertext Command Go To URL, paste hyperlink all over again. Highlight hyperlink again and apply defined Character format to make it underlined and blue. I know there has to be a better way. Can someone help me out? BTW..I'm in FM11, the deliverable is PDF, and I cannot install other software. Thanks, John Posada - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: 5. Frame 11 catastrophe, framers Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10
FrameMaker would be of zero use to me and many other people if they changed their source format, since that would break all the add-ons that make it valuable. FrameMaker already supports (more or less) a standard source format, DITA XML. On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Robert Leif rl...@rleif.com wrote: This example demonstrates that Frame needs to use a standard format. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks
Hi John, FrameMaker 11 comes with the ExtendScript scripting environment built in. I can probably write you script to automate the task. Please contact me off-list if you are interested. If I can see a sample of what you are doing, I can tell you what is involved. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:41 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks Hi, guys... Over the next few days, I'll be needing to insert hundreds of hyperlinks. Right now, it is a three step process. Copy and paste the hyperlink. Highlight it, then select Special Hypertext Command Go To URL, paste hyperlink all over again. Highlight hyperlink again and apply defined Character format to make it underlined and blue. I know there has to be a better way. Can someone help me out? BTW..I'm in FM11, the deliverable is PDF, and I cannot install other software. Thanks, John Posada - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as r...@rickquatro.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rick%40rickquatro.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: 5. Frame 11 catastrophe, framers Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10
This example demonstrates that Frame needs to use a standard format. I suggest EPUB... EPUB? Yeesh. I do books for print. The typography in EPUB is horrible. There's no letterpacing in justified text. You get big, fat word spaces instead-- and rivers of white. EPUB is just plain ugly. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: 5. Frame 11 catastrophe, framers Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10
Mike Wickham wrote: This example demonstrates that Frame needs to use a standard format. I suggest EPUB... EPUB? Yeesh. I do books for print. The typography in EPUB is horrible. There's no letterpacing in justified text. You get big, fat word spaces instead-- and rivers of white. EPUB is just plain ugly. The only thing the Frame 11 catastrophe example demonstrated was that some people believed to be Frame 11 experts don't have the slightest clue. And the only thing the standard format response demonstrated is that some people are too enamored with whatever acronyms are the flavor of the day. :-) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Strange Happenings with Reference Pages
Hi Rick, I did exactly that... new doc, format-page layout-apply..., then imported my old doc's master pages (and everything else but reference pages) into the new. Given the odd behavior of the old doc's one reference page, I thought this the safer approach. Now I just have to make the pages break like they're supposed to... working on top-of-page settings, correct tag names, etc. Having to do a few workarounds but otherwise looks like this is the final piece to streamlining my annual stress over creating this project. :-) Thanks! Karen On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Karen, ** ** You can get the Reference Page you need by choosing Format Page Layout Apply Master Pages. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. ** ** Rick ** ** Rick Quatro ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Does a FrameMaker Reader/Viewer exist?
What files are you trying to open on Windows. The Resource Fork or the Data Fork? It is possible that the two parts of the Mac file have become separated on Windows and you are trying to open the file that contains no data. Alan On 10/03/13 9:23 AM, Graeme R Forbes wrote: >> So FrameViewer didn't seem to serve any useful purpose. > > It does now. I can't open any of my 14 years worth of FM docs on the Macs I > spend most of my time on nowadays. Something like FrameViewer would be very > useful, just to remind myself of the content of the docs. Not that I have the > slightest expectation of Adobe ever considering such a product. > > Graeme Forbes > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Does a FrameMaker Reader/Viewer exist?
Oh right, yes. :} I read "14 years worth of FM docs on the Macs" and skipped over "spend most of my time on nowadays". Inference, 14 years of Mac files :D hahaha Alan On 11/03/13 9:37 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > I think you may be misinterpreting Graeme's situation, Alan. > I think what he is saying is that he has 14 years worth of Windows (and > maybe even UNIX) FrameMaker files that he'd like to be able to look at > from his current Mac environment. Because FrameViewer is long gone, and > FrameMaker stopped supporting Mac as of v7.0, he really has no > convenient (or affordable, considering the current price of > FrameMaker...) way to do that. > > -FR > > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:46:07 +1300 > > From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz > > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > Subject: Re: Does a FrameMaker Reader/Viewer exist? > > > > What files are you trying to open on Windows. The Resource Fork or the > > Data Fork? > > > > It is possible that the two parts of the Mac file have become separated > > on Windows and you are trying to open the file that contains no data. > > > > Alan > > > > On 10/03/13 9:23 AM, Graeme R Forbes wrote: > > >> So FrameViewer didn't seem to serve any useful purpose. > > > > > > It does now. I can't open any of my 14 years worth of FM docs on > the Macs I spend most of my time on nowadays. Something like FrameViewer > would be very useful, just to remind myself of the content of the docs. > Not that I have the slightest expectation of Adobe ever considering such > a product. > > > > > > Graeme Forbes > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > > > -- > > AlphaByte > > PO Box 1941, Auckland > > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files
Hi Peter, When you open a FrameMaker binary file with a text editor, it will show the FrameMaker version of this file in the very first line. In my case: How does your first line look like? Best regards Winfried From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Schorer Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:25 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be opened in Frame 11. This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts. For me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe. Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files! That wasn't done by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never converted a Frame file into an MS Word file. I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking discovery. Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing all those old files to be opened as Text files. This is how I always opened them in the past. Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible. I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. -- Peter Schorer This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130311/c7483b56/attachment.html>
Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files
At 14:39 -0700 10/3/13, Robert Lauriston wrote: >If a bunch of files that used to be in FrameMaker format are now in >Word format, someone converted them. FM11 has nothing to do with it. Or maybe the file type/extent got changed accidentally, but the contents are still Frame? -- Steve
Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files
At 09:24 + 11/3/13, Steve Rickaby wrote: >Or maybe the file type/extent got changed accidentally, but the contents are >still Frame? I should have amplified this. I have had it happen on my system: a bunch of old (Frame 3) files mysteriously acquired a '.doc' extension, but the contents were unchanged and were readable by FrameMaker. -- Steve
Strange Happenings with Reference Pages
Hi Framers, I went into an older template file and wanted to try mapping some master pages, so I opened the reference pages. There is only one in this file--the footnote/lines reference page. What's even more odd is that many of the examples (Footnote and Hairline to name a couple) had at least 10 copies each of the example line! All sitting on exactly on top of one another. Also, some of the labels/headings for those line styles appear to be doubled-up, slightly offset so they look like I'm seeing double or they have a drop shadow (significantly offset). I don't think this is a screen rendering thing; it really seems to be very obviously a double layer of text on these labels. Any idea what gives? Is this just corruption with age, or would someone had to have deliberately messed with it? And since there doesn't appear to be a reference pages mapping table, is it reasonable to copy the master pages from my old template file into a new document (that does have all the default reference pages and thus includes the UnstructMasterPageMaps table)? Thanks, Karen -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130311/d27902f2/attachment.html>
Strange Happenings with Reference Pages
Hi Karen, You can get the Reference Page you need by choosing Format > Page Layout > Apply Master Pages. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Karen Robbins Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:25 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Strange Happenings with Reference Pages Hi Framers, I went into an older template file and wanted to try mapping some master pages, so I opened the reference pages. There is only one in this file--the footnote/lines reference page. What's even more odd is that many of the examples (Footnote and Hairline to name a couple) had at least 10 copies each of the example line! All sitting on exactly on top of one another. Also, some of the labels/headings for those line styles appear to be doubled-up, slightly offset so they look like I'm seeing double or they have a drop shadow (significantly offset). I don't think this is a screen rendering thing; it really seems to be very obviously a double layer of text on these labels. Any idea what gives? Is this just corruption with age, or would someone had to have deliberately messed with it? And since there doesn't appear to be a reference pages mapping table, is it reasonable to copy the master pages from my old template file into a new document (that does have all the default reference pages and thus includes the UnstructMasterPageMaps table)? Thanks, Karen -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130311/0eabeb8c/attachment.html>
Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks
Hi, guys... Over the next few days, I'll be needing to insert hundreds of hyperlinks. Right now, it is a three step process. Copy and paste the hyperlink. Highlight it, then select Special > Hypertext > Command Go To URL, paste hyperlink all over again. Highlight hyperlink again and apply defined Character format to make it underlined and blue. I know there has to be a better way. Can someone help me out? BTW..I'm in FM11, the deliverable is PDF, and I cannot install other software. Thanks, John Posada - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT!
5. Frame 11 catastrophe, framers Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10
FrameMaker would be of zero use to me and many other people if they changed their source format, since that would break all the add-ons that make it valuable. FrameMaker already supports (more or less) a standard source format, DITA XML. On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Robert Leif wrote: > This example demonstrates that Frame needs to use a standard format.
Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks
Hi John, FrameMaker 11 comes with the ExtendScript scripting environment built in. I can probably write you script to automate the task. Please contact me off-list if you are interested. If I can see a sample of what you are doing, I can tell you what is involved. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of john.x.posada at us.hsbc.com Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:41 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks Hi, guys... Over the next few days, I'll be needing to insert hundreds of hyperlinks. Right now, it is a three step process. Copy and paste the hyperlink. Highlight it, then select Special > Hypertext > Command Go To URL, paste hyperlink all over again. Highlight hyperlink again and apply defined Character format to make it underlined and blue. I know there has to be a better way. Can someone help me out? BTW..I'm in FM11, the deliverable is PDF, and I cannot install other software. Thanks, John Posada - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rick at rickquatro.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rick%40rickquatro.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
5. Frame 11 catastrophe, framers Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10
> This example demonstrates that Frame needs to use a standard format. I suggest EPUB... EPUB? Yeesh. I do books for print. The typography in EPUB is horrible. There's no letterpacing in justified text. You get big, fat word spaces instead-- and rivers of white. EPUB is just plain ugly. Mike Wickham
5. Frame 11 catastrophe, framers Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10
Mike Wickham wrote: > > This example demonstrates that Frame needs to use a standard format. I > suggest EPUB... > > EPUB? Yeesh. I do books for print. The typography in EPUB is horrible. There's > no letterpacing in justified text. You get big, fat word spaces instead-- and > rivers of white. EPUB is just plain ugly. The only thing the "Frame 11 catastrophe" example demonstrated was that some people believed to be "Frame 11 experts" don't have the slightest clue. And the only thing the "standard format" response demonstrated is that some people are too enamored with whatever acronyms are the flavor of the day. :-) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Strange Happenings with Reference Pages
Hi Rick, I did exactly that... new doc, format-page layout-apply..., then imported my old doc's master pages (and everything else but reference pages) into the new. Given the odd behavior of the old doc's one reference page, I thought this the safer approach. Now I just have to make the pages break like they're supposed to... working on top-of-page settings, correct tag names, etc. Having to do a few workarounds but otherwise looks like this is the final piece to streamlining my annual stress over creating this project. :-) Thanks! Karen On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Karen, > > ** ** > > You can get the Reference Page you need by choosing Format > Page Layout > > Apply Master Pages. Please let me know if you have any questions or > comments. Thank you very much. > > ** ** > > Rick > > ** ** > > Rick Quatro > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130311/e35e01e0/attachment.html>
Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks
It's more efficient to apply the character format before inserting the hyperlink, since it stays highlighted. I'm sure it's possible to automate that with ExtendScript or FrameScript, or maybe with a free Windows keystroke macro recorder utility. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:41 AM, wrote: > Over the next few days, I'll be needing to insert hundreds of hyperlinks. > > Right now, it is a three step process. > >Copy and paste the hyperlink. > >Highlight it, then select Special > Hypertext > Command Go To URL, paste >hyperlink all over again. > >Highlight hyperlink again and apply defined Character format to make it >underlined and blue.
Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks
Thanks, guys... Looks like, without coding, I'm not going to be trimming alot off the process and being that I'll probably finish by Wed., any time savings from automating it will be eaten up by the time to implement the solution. If the answers did anything, it showed I was at least doing it the right way...not bad after being away from FM for about 5 years and 4 versions. BTW...to the poster who said I didn't have to re-identify it as a hypwerlink, I do...my average link is a URL along with a document to be openned from the URL and Acrobat doesn't recognize the file part, just the web URL address to the SharePoint folder,, so it goes to the folder but won't launch the file. When I include the whole path, works fine. Now, my next task, after I populate the links, is to index this book, now well over 1500 pages. Thanks, guys |> | From: | |> >-| |Robert Lauriston | >-| |> | To:| |> >-| |John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC at HSBC02, framers at lists.frameusers.com | >-| |> | Date: | |> >-| |03/11/2013 05:32 PM | >-| |> | Subject: | |> >-| |Re: Need to insert hundreds of hyperlinks | >-| |> | Sent by: | |> >-| |robert.lauriston at gmail.com | >-| It's more efficient to apply the character format before inserting the hyperlink, since it stays highlighted. I'm sure it's possible to automate that with ExtendScript or FrameScript, or maybe with a free Windows keystroke macro recorder utility. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:41 AM, wrote: > Over the next few days, I'll be needing to insert hundreds of hyperlinks. > > Right now, it is a three step process. > >Copy and paste the hyperlink. > >Highlight it, then select Special > Hypertext > Command Go To URL, paste >hyperlink all over again. > >Highlight hyperlink again and apply defined Character format to make it >underlined and blue. - ** This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any attachments may or may not be accurate. ** - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT!
