Structured Books

[Oran Petersen]

Following the recent thread on structured books, a quick, (or not so quick) 
review of some functions and quirks might help. 
1. A book must have an EDD, same as a file, for structure to work. It must 
reflect the content file in the book.
2. A book is just pointers to content, like hyperlinks, and does not itself 
hold content.
3. Therefore a book "structure" reflects the Highest Level Elements (HLE), 
including attributes, if any, for each structured file in the book. You cannot 
edit attributes in a book. Change the file and then update the book to see the 
change in the book structure.
4. Unstructured files in the book display a "BOOK COMPONENT" element in the 
structured book. This is a Frame system value that can be changed only by 
removing or structuring the files. Generated files often have this issue 
because they do not have structure when created.
5. If you do not have a "Valid Highest Level" element in your book EDD, with a 
general rule that supports all of the HLE's in the content files, you get the 
"No Name" element because Frame does not know what you want. (If you have a 
book EDD you can change No Name to the Book HLE.
6. You can import an EDD into a book same as a content file. Make sure you have 
only the very top item in the book selected when you do this, or you import the 
book EDD into content files as well, which you will not like.
7. If you select a file in the book and import an EDD into it, you also import 
this EDD into the book. To avoid this, create a junk book for this operation 
and delete it when done, or alternatively you can re-import the book EDD into 
the book (item 6) to fix it after the fact.
8. If you do not import an EDD into the book, it takes on the EDD of the first 
file in the book. Some template masters include all of the book EDD elements in 
the EDD for this first file. I do not do this because it junks up the EDD for 
what is usually the title page.
9. To get a successful update of a book structure, you must TURN OFF every 
check box in the Update dialog box. If you do not, you will not update the HLE 
attributes and other metadata in the book structure, which causes mass 
confusion. (voice of experience)
10. If you have a No Name book, you can fix it by importing the Book EDD. I use 
"Book" as the HLE for the Book. Then select No Name and change it to "Book" 
from the element catalog. If the Book element is "Valid Highest Level" it will 
be valid.
11. A book update will not fix a No Name. You must change it once as in Item 
10. Then it will stick.
Hope this helps.
Oran Petersen


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A classic customer tale - The company has taken the leap to move their product 
data into an online stores system, so that their customers can order their 
products online. Even though customers are ordering online, they still expect 
to receive their 600 color page, 12,000 product catalogue in print.



Marketing Team requirements:

== Must re-use content from their proprietary stores system for the print 
catalogue

== Desire to have the print catalogue produced automatically

== Must be able to produce high quality color PDF's for print publishing



Desktop Publishing Team requirements:

== System must be able to be easy for desktop publishing staff to use.

== Multiple users (normally four) must be able to work on the catalogue at the 
same time during catalogue preparation.

== User may need to tweak content, styles and advertising randomly, just before 
they go to print.

== Must be able to generate accurate Catalogue and Section level TOC's based on 
last second changes.

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ready for print.



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Data Group, with over 17 years' experience in the information technology field; 
including SGML/XML publishing, S1000D Interactive Electronic Technical Manual 
(IETM)  and IETP delivery, combined with document management experience with 
various solution companies. Tammy has been a technical trainer, support 
engineer and project manager for several SGML software Distributors over the 
years, and was the Frame Product Engineer, Asia Pacific & Latin America for 
Adobe Systems in 1997. Tammy is a winner of numerous awards in the industry and 
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Partly due to the advent of XML, many parts of the documentation process can 
now be automated. And one of the keys to accurate "processing" and 
"transforming" of text is metadata. Metadata is data about data. Information 
that describes or classifies information. Even if we've never used the term 
"metadata" before, we've actually know it well. An index is metadata. It helps 
describes the information, but it is not part of the core information itself. 
When we look deeper, we find metadata in document styling, in semantic mark-up, 
in SEO, in translation, in content management systems, and even in file names. 
By improving our knowledge and application of metadata, we can raise the 
quality of our documents.



About the Presenter: Based in Melbourne, Australia, Dr Tony Self (@hyperwrite) 
has over 30 years of experience as a technical communicator. For over 20 years, 
Tony has worked in the areas of online help systems, computer-based training, 
and XML documents. In 1993, he founded HyperWrite, a company providing training 
and consultancy in structured authoring, Help systems, DITA, and technology 
strategy. Tony completed his PhD in semantic mark-up languages in 2011, and his 
book The DITA Style Guide was published in the same year. He is a member of the 
OASIS DITA Technical Committee (and chair of the DITA Help Subcommittee), is an 
adjunct teaching fellow at Swinburne University, and is the Director of 
Training for TCTrainNet, a training initiative of tekom, the German 
professional association for technical communicators.




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Variables based on paragraph tags at the book level?

[Jason Nichols]

Is there a way to use the 12 built-in Running H/F variables in
FrameMaker to pull in text based on paragraph tags that appear only in
other documents within the book?

For example, it'd be nice if I could define – in the footer of each
chapter in a book – the Running H/F variables to pull in the document
title, product name, and version number based on what appears on the
book's title page (based on paragraph tags that are used only in the
title page file).

Or, is the only way to set up those kinds of book-wide variables to
define our own variables in one file and import them to all the other
files in the book?

Thanks in advance,

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RE: OT: Book Suggestion - Fonts

[David Artman]

I'm more into *typefaces*--I need multiple sizes. ;)
David

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Subject: OT: Book Suggestion - Fonts
From: Alison Craig 
Date: Thu, April 25, 2013 5:11 pm
... 
As technical writers, many of you will be interested in fonts.
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Re: jpg images

[Robert Lauriston]

GIF is great for screen shots that don't include gradients or photos.

These days I use PNG but with PhotoShop at the highest quality setting
I do not see artifacts in images saved as JPEG. Some other tools don't
do as good a job.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)  wrote:
> Unfortunately, GIF only uses 256 colors in any given image (selected from a 
> larger palette though). So, _not_ what I would use for high-quality 
> photographs, but it _could_ be used for screen captures as long as there 
> aren't too many colors in that screen.
>
> I have tested JPEG output for screen captures and they are _not_ acceptable 
> [to me] for this use purpose. Solid color (e.g., white) backgrounds, text, 
> sharp color transitions, etc., will get speckled dots and edge smearing as 
> well. Often, white backgrounds end up with light-gray coloring and these show 
> visibly in documents with white paper backgrounds ...
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Re: jpg images

[Steve Johnson]

This is still a subject for discussion?

TIF = JPG = not for screen captures period

GIF OK but limited to 256 colors

PNG is the way to go.

http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/imaging/image-saving.htm

http://www.sitepoint.com/gif-jpg-png-whats-difference/

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2336522/png-vs-gif-vs-jpeg-when-best-to-use

http://www.sitepoint.com/gif-png-jpg-which-one-to-use/

etc




On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) <
syed.hos...@aeris.net> wrote:

> Unfortunately, GIF only uses 256 colors in any given image (selected from
> a larger palette though). So, _not_ what I would use for high-quality
> photographs, but it _could_ be used for screen captures as long as there
> aren't too many colors in that screen.
>
> I have tested JPEG output for screen captures and they are _not_
> acceptable [to me] for this use purpose. Solid color (e.g., white)
> backgrounds, text, sharp color transitions, etc., will get speckled dots
> and edge smearing as well. Often, white backgrounds end up with light-gray
> coloring and these show visibly in documents with white paper backgrounds -
> you can see ink-jet printers trying to reproduce this light color in the
> output. Indeed, my new Canon ink-jet at home (which has a grey ink
> cartridge - cool!) would faithfully try to reproduce this, I think.
>
> It is far better to use TIF (large files though) or PNG for screen
> captures. With true white backgrounds, on white paper documents, the result
> is very clean. In most of my screen captures, the PNG format has worked
> well - particularly when I need transparent backgrounds (which GIF does not
> support) which I can edit in Photoshop.
>
> JPEGs should _only_ be used for photographs.
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:43 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: jpg images
>
> JPEG with the highest quality setting is fine for most screen shots,
> though I usually see smaller files from PNG or GIF.
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Matt Sullivan 
> wrote:
> >
> > All versions of structured Frame support JPEG files.
> >
> > JPEG is a lossy bitmap format, so photos represent well, but diagrams
> and screen shots will likely disappoint you.
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jpg images

[Helen Borrie]

At 06:04 p.m. 26/04/2013, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:


>transparent backgrounds (which GIF does not support) 

FWIW, GIF does support transparent backgrounds.  I prefer it over png for 
web-based, non-photo graphics.  I prefer tiff for any ink/paper job.

Helen

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[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Thurs May 2 at 3:00 PM PDT AdobeTCS webinar:
"Database Publishing with FrameMaker 11 - When your print color catalogue is 
too important to give up"

Register at:   http://adobe.ly/WWfS5x



A classic customer tale - The company has taken the leap to move their product 
data into an online stores system, so that their customers can order their 
products online. Even though customers are ordering online, they still expect 
to receive their 600 color page, 12,000 product catalogue in print.



Marketing Team requirements:

== Must re-use content from their proprietary stores system for the print 
catalogue

== Desire to have the print catalogue produced automatically

== Must be able to produce high quality color PDF's for print publishing



Desktop Publishing Team requirements:

== System must be able to be easy for desktop publishing staff to use.

== Multiple users (normally four) must be able to work on the catalogue at the 
same time during catalogue preparation.

== User may need to tweak content, styles and advertising randomly, just before 
they go to print.

== Must be able to generate accurate Catalogue and Section level TOC's based on 
last second changes.

== Must be able to generate an accurate Parts Index for the entire Catalogue.



Re-using the data that comes out of the stores database, Tammy will demonstrate 
how by converting database fields into useful well-formed XML that allows Adobe 
FrameMaker 11 to do what it does best, produce a robust 600 page catalogue 
ready for print.



About the Presenter: Tammy Halter is the founder and sole Director of Absolute 
Data Group, with over 17 years' experience in the information technology field; 
including SGML/XML publishing, S1000D Interactive Electronic Technical Manual 
(IETM)  and IETP delivery, combined with document management experience with 
various solution companies. Tammy has been a technical trainer, support 
engineer and project manager for several SGML software Distributors over the 
years, and was the Frame Product Engineer, Asia Pacific & Latin America for 
Adobe Systems in 1997. Tammy is a winner of numerous awards in the industry and 
a speaker at several industry programs




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Obviously, you would not want information from a competitor's website to appear 
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Monday April 29, 2PM PDT AdobeTCS webinar: "HYPERWRITE Sess 2) The importance 
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Register at:http://adobe.ly/12tRTgx



Partly due to the advent of XML, many parts of the documentation process can 
now be automated. And one of the keys to accurate "processing" and 
"transforming" of text is metadata. Metadata is data about data. Information 
that describes or classifies information. Even if we've never used the term 
"metadata" before, we've actually know it well. An index is metadata. It helps 
describes the information, but it is not part of the core information itself. 
When we look deeper, we find metadata in document styling, in semantic mark-up, 
in SEO, in translation, in content management systems, and even in file names. 
By improving our knowledge and application of metadata, we can raise the 
quality of our documents.



About the Presenter: Based in Melbourne, Australia, Dr Tony Self (@hyperwrite) 
has over 30 years of experience as a technical communicator. For over 20 years, 
Tony has worked in the areas of online help systems, computer-based training, 
and XML documents. In 1993, he founded HyperWrite, a company providing training 
and consultancy in structured authoring, Help systems, DITA, and technology 
strategy. Tony completed his PhD in semantic mark-up languages in 2011, and his 
book The DITA Style Guide was published in the same year. He is a member of the 
OASIS DITA Technical Committee (and chair of the DITA Help Subcommittee), is an 
adjunct teaching fellow at Swinburne University, and is the Director of 
Training for TCTrainNet, a training initiative of tekom, the German 
professional association for technical communicators.




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RE: Book Suggestion - Fonts

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Clint Owen said:

?  I mostly read e-books these days, so I checked the King County (Washington) 
library website and found that they only have the audiobook version! Very odd, 
considering the subject matter.

Alison Craig said:

?  As this is a very visual book, Audio is certainly an odd format.

Agreed! I went ahead and bought it yesterday after I saw your e-mail ... the 
Kindle version is very readable on my Kindle Fire and I don't miss the printed 
one. Not sure how good it would look on the paper-white Kindle's, but it should 
be okay.

A fun read so far (I am about half-way through it), and I cannot see (pun 
intended) how an audio version could possibly work. The visual font examples 
are vital to the book.

By the way, in a different way (not as much fun perhaps :)), the book "Thinking 
with Type" by Ellen Lupton 
(http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Type-2nd-revised-expanded/dp/1568989695), is 
also a worthwhile read on a similar topic. Not available as a Kindle edition 
though.

BTW, I have a printed version of this book: 
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Type-Library-Reference-Edition/dp/0321821254 on my 
shelf as of a few weeks ago. After my experience with Helvetica vs. Arial 
differences last year (based on excellent observations from people here!), I 
decided I wanted to learn more about fonts ... :)

Z
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Book Suggestion - Fonts

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Clint Owen said:

?  I mostly read e-books these days, so I checked the King County (Washington) 
library website and found that they only have the audiobook version! Very odd, 
considering the subject matter.

Alison Craig said:

?  As this is a very visual book, Audio is certainly an odd format.

Agreed! I went ahead and bought it yesterday after I saw your e-mail ... the 
Kindle version is very readable on my Kindle Fire and I don't miss the printed 
one. Not sure how good it would look on the paper-white Kindle's, but it should 
be okay.

A fun read so far (I am about half-way through it), and I cannot see (pun 
intended) how an audio version could possibly work. The visual font examples 
are vital to the book.

By the way, in a different way (not as much fun perhaps :)), the book "Thinking 
with Type" by Ellen Lupton 
(http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Type-2nd-revised-expanded/dp/1568989695), is 
also a worthwhile read on a similar topic. Not available as a Kindle edition 
though.

BTW, I have a printed version of this book: 
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Type-Library-Reference-Edition/dp/0321821254 on my 
shelf as of a few weeks ago. After my experience with Helvetica vs. Arial 
differences last year (based on excellent observations from people here!), I 
decided I wanted to learn more about fonts ... :)

Z
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Done 

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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:36 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:35Z

Jeff -

Yep:  I put my Sticky Note into the left margin aligned with "XML with 
FrameMaker"

Good luck and regards,
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-Original Message-
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Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 14:34
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Can you give me the heading of the section? - mine says "XML with FrameMaker" 
and "Create, open, and save XML files"

-Original Message-
From: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Can you give me the heading of the section? - mine says "XML with FrameMaker" 
and "Create, open, and save XML files"

-Original Message-
From: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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RE: Generated list of variables

[Alison Craig]

The Variables Tool from Silicon Prairie generates a Variables Formats 
Used/Variable Formats Not Used list – but it only include user-defined 
Variables.

The Generate Variable Format Report (same tool) lists all System Variables 
(with your edits), but doesn’t say whether or not they are used.


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www.ultrasonix.com

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Subject: Generated list of variables

Is there a way to generate a list of variables used in a book?
I don't see anything in the native functionality.

Grant
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Generated list of variables

[Alison Craig]

The Variables Tool from Silicon Prairie generates a Variables Formats 
Used/Variable Formats Not Used list ? but it only include user-defined 
Variables.

The Generate Variable Format Report (same tool) lists all System Variables 
(with your edits), but doesn?t say whether or not they are used.


Alison Craig  |  Technical Documentation Lead
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation  |  #130 - 4311 Viking Way, BC, Canada  V6V2K9
T 604-279-8550 ext. 127  |  F 604-279-8559  |  TF 1-866-437-9508  |  
www.ultrasonix.com<http://www.ultrasonix.com>

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lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of gr...@hedgewizard.net
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:21 AM
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Subject: Generated list of variables

Is there a way to generate a list of variables used in a book?
I don't see anything in the native functionality.

Grant
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

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RE: Book Suggestion - Fonts

[Alison Craig]

As this is a very visual book, Audio is certainly an odd format.

Alison


From: Owen, Clint [mailto:clint.o...@craneae.com]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:22 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Alison Craig
Subject: RE: Book Suggestion - Fonts

I mostly read e-books these days, so I checked the King County (Washington) 
library website and found that they only have the audiobook version! Very odd, 
considering the subject matter.

Clint


Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1 425 743 
8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:12 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: OT: Book Suggestion - Fonts

This is off topic, but I wanted to share a book I just read.

As technical writers, many of you will be interested in fonts. Just my Type by 
Simon Garfield is informative, interesting and sometimes very funny.

The hard cover version is about $20 dollars, but it's also available in 
paperback and e-book (and no I don't know the author and I don't get anything 
for the recommendation :)).


Alison Craig  |  Technical Documentation Lead
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation  |  #130 - 4311 Viking Way, BC, Canada  V6V2K9
T 604-279-8550 ext. 127  |  F 604-279-8559  |  TF 1-866-437-9508  |  
www.ultrasonix.com


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Book Suggestion - Fonts

[Alison Craig]

As this is a very visual book, Audio is certainly an odd format.

Alison


From: Owen, Clint [mailto:clint.o...@craneae.com]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:22 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Alison Craig
Subject: RE: Book Suggestion - Fonts

I mostly read e-books these days, so I checked the King County (Washington) 
library website and found that they only have the audiobook version! Very odd, 
considering the subject matter.

Clint


Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1 425 743 
8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

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lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Alison Craig
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:12 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: OT: Book Suggestion - Fonts

This is off topic, but I wanted to share a book I just read.

As technical writers, many of you will be interested in fonts. Just my Type by 
Simon Garfield is informative, interesting and sometimes very funny.

The hard cover version is about $20 dollars, but it's also available in 
paperback and e-book (and no I don't know the author and I don't get anything 
for the recommendation :)).


Alison Craig  |  Technical Documentation Lead
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation  |  #130 - 4311 Viking Way, BC, Canada  V6V2K9
T 604-279-8550 ext. 127  |  F 604-279-8559  |  TF 1-866-437-9508  |  
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Jeff Coatsworth]

 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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Variables based on paragraph tags at the book level?

[Jason Nichols]

Is there a way to use the 12 built-in Running H/F variables in
FrameMaker to pull in text based on paragraph tags that appear only in
other documents within the book?

For example, it'd be nice if I could define ? in the footer of each
chapter in a book ? the Running H/F variables to pull in the document
title, product name, and version number based on what appears on the
book's title page (based on paragraph tags that are used only in the
title page file).

Or, is the only way to set up those kinds of book-wide variables to
define our own variables in one file and import them to all the other
files in the book?

Thanks in advance,

Jason Nichols
jason at mkjn.org

RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Done 

-Original Message-
From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:36 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:35Z

Jeff -

Yep:  I put my Sticky Note into the left margin aligned with "XML with 
FrameMaker"

Good luck and regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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-Original Message-
From: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com] 
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 14:34
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Can you give me the heading of the section? - mine says "XML with FrameMaker" 
and "Create, open, and save XML files"

-Original Message-
From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Can you give me the heading of the section? - mine says "XML with FrameMaker" 
and "Create, open, and save XML files"

-Original Message-
From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com [mailto:dave.st...@gdc4s.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Dave.Stamm]

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

 

For security reasons, my employer impedes getting to the on-line version of 
help.

 

Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 14:14
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

 

Use the "Discuss This Page" functionality on the help pages (they also echo in 
a strangely annoying way to the Adobe Forums) and Adobe's tech writing team 
monitors the suggestions for the next build of the help.

 



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:08 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

How does a customer/user go about making changes on an Adobe website?  And if 
this is not possible for an arbitrary individual to do, who is the "us" you 
refer to who have the capability to paste someone else's text into a page of 
their site?

-Fred Ridder

> From: jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:33:42 -0400
> Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
> 
> If you indicate which page in the help system 
> (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
> you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
> text.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> dave.st...@gdc4s.com
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
> 
> 2013-04-26-05T17:25Z
> 
> Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.
> 
> ¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
> procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?
> 
> NOTE: This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with Rick 
> Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
> Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
> 
> SYMPTOM
> In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
> top-level element in the book as .
> 
> MALFUNCTION
> The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.
> 
> CORRECTIVE ACTION
> 1. After adding structured files to the book, update the book. In the 
> Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level 
> element in each file. The program displays the top-level element in the book 
> as .
> 
> 2. In the Structure View window, choose . In the Edit Attributes 
> window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button. The Set Available 
> Elements window appears.
> 
> 3. In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
> Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
> choose the Set button. The program sets and displays the available elements.
> 
> 4. On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book. The 
> program changes  to the name of the chosen element.
> 
> 5. In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.
> 
> Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro. As many others have written before, "¡The 
> contributors to this list are the _best_!"
> 
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
> General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
> Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
> 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
> Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US
> tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509
> dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/
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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Dave.Stamm]

2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

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2013-04-26-05T18:20Z

I have FrameMaker help in a portable document format file.  Near the bottom of 
PDF p 440 of 615, I added a Sticky Note containing the procedure.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 13:34
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book


 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Use the "Discuss This Page" functionality on the help pages (they also echo in 
a strangely annoying way to the Adobe Forums) and Adobe's tech writing team 
monitors the suggestions for the next build of the help.


From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:08 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

How does a customer/user go about making changes on an Adobe website?  And if 
this is not possible for an arbitrary individual to do, who is the "us" you 
refer to who have the capability to paste someone else's text into a page of 
their site?

-Fred Ridder

> From: jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:33:42 -0400
> Subject: RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
>
> If you indicate which page in the help system 
> (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
> you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
> text.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> dave.st...@gdc4s.com
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book
>
> 2013-04-26-05T17:25Z
>
> Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.
>
> ¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
> procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?
>
> NOTE: This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with Rick 
> Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
> Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
>
> SYMPTOM
> In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
> top-level element in the book as .
>
> MALFUNCTION
> The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.
>
> CORRECTIVE ACTION
> 1. After adding structured files to the book, update the book. In the 
> Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level 
> element in each file. The program displays the top-level element in the book 
> as .
>
> 2. In the Structure View window, choose . In the Edit Attributes 
> window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button. The Set Available 
> Elements window appears.
>
> 3. In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
> Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
> choose the Set button. The program sets and displays the available elements.
>
> 4. On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book. The 
> program changes  to the name of the chosen element.
>
> 5. In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.
>
> Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro. As many others have written before, "¡The 
> contributors to this list are the _best_!"
>
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
> General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
> Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
> 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
> Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US
> tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509
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RE: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Jeff Coatsworth]

 If you indicate which page in the help system 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html) should be updated, 
you can either make your change yourself or have one of us copy & paste your 
text.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Dave.Stamm]

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

¿Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.
  
SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "¡The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
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SOLVED: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[dave.st...@gdc4s.com]

2013-04-26-05T17:25Z

Rick Quatro generously provided the solution in a telephonic conversation.

?Max Hoffman, will you please do whatever necessary to get the following 
procedure added to the help for FrameMaker?

NOTE:  This is based on my telephonic conversation 2013-04-26-05 with 
Rick Quatro (Carmen Publishing ( www.frameexpert.com/ ), 585-283-5045).
Files added to the book do not have to be valid.

SYMPTOM
In a structured book, in the Structure View window, the program displays the 
top-level element in the book as .

MALFUNCTION
The parent element for the book is not applied to the top-level element.

CORRECTIVE ACTION
1.  After adding structured files to the book, update the book.  In the 
Structure View window, the program displays the name of each top-level element 
in each file.  The program displays the top-level element in the book as 
.

   2.  In the Structure View window, choose .  In the Edit Attributes 
window, on the Elements tab, choose the Options... button.  The Set Available 
Elements window appears.

   3.  In the Set Available Elements window, in the Show Tags For: area, in the 
Valid Elements for Working Start to Finish option button, ensure a dot and 
choose the Set button.  The program sets and displays the available elements.

   4.  On the Elements tab, choose the top-level element for the book.  The 
program changes  to the name of the chosen element.

   5.  In the Structure View, arrange elements to conform.

Again, many thanks to Rick Quatro.  As many others have written before, "?The 
contributors to this list are the _best_!"

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620   fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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RE: jpg images

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

> > transparent backgrounds (which GIF does not support)

> FWIW, GIF does support transparent backgrounds.  I prefer it over png for 
> web-based, non-photo graphics.  I prefer tiff for any ink/paper job.

Hmmm ... I could have sworn that GIF did not support transparent backgrounds - 
I will see if I can find out what specific experience I had that made me think 
this was the case.

Anyway, I have been using PNG for screen captures with excellent output for 
some time now, so will continue with that.

Z

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jpg images

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

> > transparent backgrounds (which GIF does not support)

> FWIW, GIF does support transparent backgrounds.  I prefer it over png for 
> web-based, non-photo graphics.  I prefer tiff for any ink/paper job.

Hmmm ... I could have sworn that GIF did not support transparent backgrounds - 
I will see if I can find out what specific experience I had that made me think 
this was the case.

Anyway, I have been using PNG for screen captures with excellent output for 
some time now, so will continue with that.

Z

Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book,
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com



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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80?GHz
RAM:  4.00?GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book
and .fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this
problem at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only
twice have I succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate
is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about
structured _files_?- but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable
.dtd file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files
and into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try
to import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed"
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the
book window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure
View window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is ,
and all the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to
recognize it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square
two or three" but not further.

Help, please.

?Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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OT: Book Suggestion - Fonts

[David Artman]

I'm more into *typefaces*--I need multiple sizes. ;)
David

 Original Message 
Subject: OT: Book Suggestion - Fonts
From: Alison Craig 
Date: Thu, April 25, 2013 5:11 pm
... 
As technical writers, many of you will be interested in fonts.
...

jpg images

[Robert Lauriston]

GIF is great for screen shots that don't include gradients or photos.

These days I use PNG but with PhotoShop at the highest quality setting
I do not see artifacts in images saved as JPEG. Some other tools don't
do as good a job.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)  wrote:
> Unfortunately, GIF only uses 256 colors in any given image (selected from a 
> larger palette though). So, _not_ what I would use for high-quality 
> photographs, but it _could_ be used for screen captures as long as there 
> aren't too many colors in that screen.
>
> I have tested JPEG output for screen captures and they are _not_ acceptable 
> [to me] for this use purpose. Solid color (e.g., white) backgrounds, text, 
> sharp color transitions, etc., will get speckled dots and edge smearing as 
> well. Often, white backgrounds end up with light-gray coloring and these show 
> visibly in documents with white paper backgrounds ...

jpg images

[Steve Johnson]

This is still a subject for discussion?

TIF = JPG = not for screen captures period

GIF OK but limited to 256 colors

PNG is the way to go.

http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/imaging/image-saving.htm

http://www.sitepoint.com/gif-jpg-png-whats-difference/

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2336522/png-vs-gif-vs-jpeg-when-best-to-use

http://www.sitepoint.com/gif-png-jpg-which-one-to-use/

etc




On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) <
Syed.Hosain at aeris.net> wrote:

> Unfortunately, GIF only uses 256 colors in any given image (selected from
> a larger palette though). So, _not_ what I would use for high-quality
> photographs, but it _could_ be used for screen captures as long as there
> aren't too many colors in that screen.
>
> I have tested JPEG output for screen captures and they are _not_
> acceptable [to me] for this use purpose. Solid color (e.g., white)
> backgrounds, text, sharp color transitions, etc., will get speckled dots
> and edge smearing as well. Often, white backgrounds end up with light-gray
> coloring and these show visibly in documents with white paper backgrounds -
> you can see ink-jet printers trying to reproduce this light color in the
> output. Indeed, my new Canon ink-jet at home (which has a grey ink
> cartridge - cool!) would faithfully try to reproduce this, I think.
>
> It is far better to use TIF (large files though) or PNG for screen
> captures. With true white backgrounds, on white paper documents, the result
> is very clean. In most of my screen captures, the PNG format has worked
> well - particularly when I need transparent backgrounds (which GIF does not
> support) which I can edit in Photoshop.
>
> JPEGs should _only_ be used for photographs.
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:43 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: jpg images
>
> JPEG with the highest quality setting is fine for most screen shots,
> though I usually see smaller files from PNG or GIF.
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Matt Sullivan 
> wrote:
> >
> > All versions of structured Frame support JPEG files.
> >
> > JPEG is a lossy bitmap format, so photos represent well, but diagrams
> and screen shots will likely disappoint you.
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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Dave.Stamm]

2013-04-26-05T14:20Z

I have sorted out the problematic file and have updated the book, but no joy.  
Element  persists and resists.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[dave.st...@gdc4s.com]

2013-04-26-05T14:20Z

I have sorted out the problematic file and have updated the book, but no joy.  
Element  persists and resists.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
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Generated list of variables

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

itl offers some FrameScript scripts in the Extended Pack of
their i-frame collection. One script creates a variable report:
http://www.i-frame.itl.info/en/feature-description/i-frame-modules/extended-pack/report-variable-definitions.html

itl also offers these scripts as indivdual scripts.

Best regards

Winfried

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Is there a way to generate a list of variables used in a book?
I don't see anything in the native functionality.

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RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Dave.Stamm]

2013-04-26-05T13:45Z

Rick -

Yes; thanks for mentioning.  I failed to remember and to mention that when I 
try to update the book, FrameMaker hangs.  It's hanging as I write this.  I 
have to use Task Manager to end process and force FrameMaker out.

So, now, the problematic file becomes a likely suspect.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 09:35
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book, 
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element 
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you 
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com



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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80 GHz
RAM:  4.00 GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book and 
.fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_ - but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured 
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed"
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is 
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is , and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square two or 
three" but not further.

Help, please.

¡Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[dave.st...@gdc4s.com]

2013-04-26-05T13:45Z

Rick -

Yes; thanks for mentioning.  I failed to remember and to mention that when I 
try to update the book, FrameMaker hangs.  It's hanging as I write this.  I 
have to use Task Manager to end process and force FrameMaker out.

So, now, the problematic file becomes a likely suspect.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 09:35
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book, 
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element 
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you 
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com



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gdc4s.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80?GHz
RAM:  4.00?GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book and 
.fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_?- but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured 
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed"
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is 
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is , and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square two or 
three" but not further.

Help, please.

?Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book,
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com



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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80 GHz
RAM:  4.00 GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book
and .fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this
problem at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only
twice have I succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate
is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about
structured _files_ - but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable
.dtd file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files
and into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try
to import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed"
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the
book window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure
View window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is ,
and all the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to
recognize it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square
two or three" but not further.

Help, please.

¡Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[Dave.Stamm]

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80 GHz
RAM:  4.00 GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation
.book and .fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_ - but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured 
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed" that 
file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is related 
to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is , and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square two or 
three" but not further.

Help, please.

¡Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

[dave.st...@gdc4s.com]

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80?GHz
RAM:  4.00?GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation
.book and .fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_?- but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured 
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed" that 
file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is related 
to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is , and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of , and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square two or 
three" but not further.

Help, please.

?Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer