FW: Google Groups Invitation: Technical Communicators for U.S. GovernmentAgency Documentation

[Böðvar Björgvinsson]

Or you can explain the necessity of subscribing to this group to your
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Setting up files for structured use

[Craig Ede]

Fair enough. I misunderstood that state of things.



BTW: My description is flawed about the structapps files. It does read the
local one on the next load of FM.



Craig



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Subject: Re: Setting up files for structured use



Yes, indeed it would be overkill. However, I was recommending Dave go to an
install that had yet to be mucked. (a fresh install, not a reinstall) 



Attempting to remedy the existing mucked files could result in much wheel
spinning that might make reinstalling Fm seem like a modest proposal.


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On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:





Reinstalling completely to fix the maker.ini files seems a bit like
overkill.



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Setting up files for structured use

[Craig Ede]

Reinstalling completely to fix the maker.ini files seems a bit like
overkill. When editing the maker.ini file it is a good idea to make a copy
in the same location. I name the copy maker.ini.ORIG, so I can use that to
get back to the original settings if they are needed.



This use of two structapps (local and global) files started with FM10.

There's a discussion about the use of a network drive for common structure
files in one of the Adobe webinars.

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=set_registered&id=2243297
&loc=en_us

The relevant comments begin about 11:15 into the webinar.



The one you edit by using you choose Structure Tools > Edit Application
Definitions is the local one. When you edit that file, save it and then do a
Read Application Definitions (to allow your application to use the new
definitions) everything is okay and you can use your new application.
However...



The global file is not affected by these edits. Next time you start FM and
it reads from the global file, your new application definition will not be
there. You have to copy the application definition in your local file into
the global file.  Your problem with RW file not being seen may simply be a
result of that. The discussion of the structure app file is at about 18:00
in the webinar.



Craig



- snipped -

With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and
install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global,
both available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're
getting snarled in the combinations of these files.





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Google Groups Invitation: Technical Communicators for U.S. Government Agency Documentation

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Re: Setting up files for structured use

[Matt Sullivan]

Yes, indeed it would be overkill. However, I was recommending Dave go to an install that had yet to be mucked. (a fresh install, not a reinstall) Attempting to remedy the existing mucked files could result in much wheel spinning that might make reinstalling Fm seem like a modest proposal.
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Index and Glossary

[Bethany Lee]

Does this help?
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7960b-7ed5.html


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Setting up files for structured use

[Matt Sullivan]

Yes, indeed it would be overkill. However, I was recommending Dave go to an 
install that had yet to be mucked. (a fresh install, not a reinstall) 

Attempting to remedy the existing mucked files could result in much wheel 
spinning that might make reinstalling Fm seem like a modest proposal.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

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Re: FW: Google Groups Invitation: Technical Communicators for U.S. GovernmentAgency Documentation

[Böðvar Björgvinsson]

Or you can explain the necessity of subscribing to this group to your
admins. :-)

Bodvar






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> Well, Dave, perhaps you can subscribe to the list, if you are interested,
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> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM,  wrote:
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>> 2013-07-16-02T21:55Z
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: FW: Google Groups Invitation: Technical Communicators for U.S. GovernmentAgency Documentation

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Well, Dave, perhaps you can subscribe to the list, if you are interested,
from a non-business device, off-premises, during personal hours.

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>
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>
> Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
>
> 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.™
>
> Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
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FW: Google Groups Invitation: Technical Communicators for U.S. GovernmentAgency Documentation

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Well, Dave, perhaps you can subscribe to the list, if you are interested,
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>
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>
> ** **
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> Regards,
>
> Dave Stamm
>
> Information Engineer
>
> General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
>
> Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section
>
> 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.?
>
> Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
>
> tel:  260-434-9620 fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
>
> dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/
>
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Index and Glossary

[Lin Sims]

Hi Don,

Do you mean that you want to create a list of terms in a file and have
something automatically mark those terms in your documents to be added to
an Index? I don't know if FM does this by itself, but I believe that IXgen (
http://www.fsatools.com/ixds.html) will do this. Index Markers by
Configuration, from SQUIDDS (part of Finalyzer:
http://www.finalyser.de/en/finalyser.html), MIGHT do this, but I've never
used the tool so I'm not positive.

HTH

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal <
donald.m.rinderknecht at noaa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index
> based upon a list of terms, but I can?t find anything in the documentation.
>
>
>
> We?re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.
>
>
>
> Any tips?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> don
>
>
>
> --
>
> Don Rinderknecht
>
> Meteorologist Instructor
>
> Warning Decision Training Branch
>
> Norman, OK
>
> 405.325.2805
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Hi Val, thanks for the invitation.

Although I was unable to use the invitation link you posted, I was able to 
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I figured that info would be useful for anyone else who is interested in 
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[Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal]

Hi Framers,



Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index based
upon a list of terms, but I can?t find anything in the documentation.



We?re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.



Any tips?



Thanks,
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Re: Index and Glossary

[Lin Sims]

Hi Don,

Do you mean that you want to create a list of terms in a file and have
something automatically mark those terms in your documents to be added to
an Index? I don't know if FM does this by itself, but I believe that IXgen (
http://www.fsatools.com/ixds.html) will do this. Index Markers by
Configuration, from SQUIDDS (part of Finalyzer:
http://www.finalyser.de/en/finalyser.html), MIGHT do this, but I've never
used the tool so I'm not positive.

HTH

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal <
donald.m.rinderkne...@noaa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index
> based upon a list of terms, but I can’t find anything in the documentation.
>
>
>
> We’re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.
>
>
>
> Any tips?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> don
>
>
>
> --
>
> Don Rinderknecht
>
> Meteorologist Instructor
>
> Warning Decision Training Branch
>
> Norman, OK
>
> 405.325.2805
>
>
>
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Re: Index and Glossary

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Hi Donald, It sounds like you're looking for an Alphabetical List of Markers. Check that out in the help, or see Ch 20, Creating Other Generated Files in my book.
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Index and Glossary

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Donald, 

It sounds like you're looking for an Alphabetical List of Markers. Check that 
out in the help, or see Ch 20, Creating Other Generated Files in my book.

-Matt

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P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal 
 wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>  
> Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index based 
> upon a list of terms, but I can?t find anything in the documentation.
>  
> We?re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.
>  
> Any tips?
>  
> Thanks,
> don
>  
> --
> Don Rinderknecht
> Meteorologist Instructor
> Warning Decision Training Branch
> Norman, OK
> 405.325.2805
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Index and Glossary

[Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal]

Hi Framers,



Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index based
upon a list of terms, but I can’t find anything in the documentation.



We’re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.



Any tips?



Thanks,
don



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Meteorologist Instructor

Warning Decision Training Branch

Norman, OK

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Re: Setting up files for structured use

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Hi Dave, 

> Although you can customize some of your settings, there's no inherent need to 
> modify the maker.ini to do what you describe. 
> 
> With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and 
> install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global, 
> both available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're 
> getting snarled in the combinations of these files.
> 
> I suggest you start with a fresh install of Fm11 to see if you can get 
> everything working without modifying the maker.ini, and then proceed to the 
> existing installs.
>> 
> Fm11 is probably are not properly "reading" your structapps file, and doesn't 
> yet "see" what you think it does.
>> 
> 
> You can set up as many structured applications as you like, and they'll all 
> work properly, as long as Fm11 "knows" which ones you want to use.
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Hi Dave, 

> Although you can customize some of your settings, there's no inherent need to 
> modify the maker.ini to do what you describe. 
> 
> With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and 
> install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global, 
> both available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're 
> getting snarled in the combinations of these files.
> 
> I suggest you start with a fresh install of Fm11 to see if you can get 
> everything working without modifying the maker.ini, and then proceed to the 
> existing installs.
>> 
> Fm11 is probably are not properly "reading" your structapps file, and doesn't 
> yet "see" what you think it does.
>> 
> 
> You can set up as many structured applications as you like, and they'll all 
> work properly, as long as Fm11 "knows" which ones you want to use.

Re: military docs list

[Matt Sullivan]

I'm definitely interested in a group like this, and also requested to join the one Jack mentioned (Thx, Jack!)
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On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Valerie Lipow  wrote:Thanks, Jack. I just submitted a request to join the group. Still, not everyone can or wants to use LinkedIn at work. So, if there is any interest in an email list, please let me know.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM,   wrote:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/US-Technical-Writers-3476130  This group advertises itself as for DoD and other defense writers.  Jack DeLand
From: "Alan T Litchfield" To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 3:34:04 PMSubject: Re: military docs listMe too.AlanOn 15/07/13 11:42 PM, Al Friend wrote:> I’d certainly take a look at this.>> 
>> Val wrote:>> Message: 5>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:30:15 -0700>> From: Val Lipow >
>> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com>"
> >
>> Subject: Group for Frame users developing docs for Defense Dept.>>        Agencies?>> Message-ID: <886745cd-c507-48ef-850a-9b16f5db3...@gmail.com
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>> Is there a group for those of us who write for US military> customers/audiences? If so, please direct me to it; if not, are others> interested in forming one?>> Val>> 
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military docs list

[Matt Sullivan]

I'm definitely interested in a group like this, and also requested to join the 
one Jack mentioned (Thx, Jack!)

-Matt

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Valerie Lipow  wrote:

> Thanks, Jack. I just submitted a request to join the group. 
> 
> Still, not everyone can or wants to use LinkedIn at work. So, if there is any 
> interest in an email list, please let me know.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM,  wrote:
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/US-Technical-Writers-3476130 
> 
>  
> This group advertises itself as for DoD and other defense writers.
> 
>  
> Jack DeLand
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Alan T Litchfield" 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 3:34:04 PM
> Subject: Re: military docs list
> 
> Me too.
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 15/07/13 11:42 PM, Al Friend wrote:
> > I?d certainly take a look at this.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Val wrote:
> >
> > Message: 5
> >
> > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:30:15 -0700
> >
> > From: Val Lipow mailto:vallipow at gmail.com>>
> >
> > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com <mailto:framers at 
> > lists.frameusers.com>"
> > mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
> >
> > Subject: Group for Frame users developing docs for Defense Dept.
> >
> >Agencies?
> >
> > Message-ID: <886745CD-C507-48EF-850A-9B16F5DB32F3 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:886745CD-C507-48EF-850A-9B16F5DB32F3 at gmail.com>>
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Is there a group for those of us who write for US military
> > customers/audiences? If so, please direct me to it; if not, are others
> > interested in forming one?
> >
> > Val
> >
> > 
> >
> > Al Friend
> >
> > Safety Officer
> >
> > Tech Writer/Editor
> >
> > Documentation Control Coordinator
> >
> > hli logo 6_cmyk
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Re: military docs list

[Valerie Lipow]

Thanks, Jack. I just submitted a request to join the group.

Still, not everyone can or wants to use LinkedIn at work. So, if there is
any interest in an email list, please let me know.


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM,  wrote:

> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/US-Technical-Writers-3476130
>
>
>
> This group advertises itself as for DoD and other defense writers.
>
>
>
> Jack DeLand
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Alan T Litchfield" 
> *To: *framers@lists.frameusers.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 15, 2013 3:34:04 PM
> *Subject: *Re: military docs list
>
> Me too.
>
> Alan
>
> On 15/07/13 11:42 PM, Al Friend wrote:
> > I’d certainly take a look at this.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Val wrote:
> >
> > Message: 5
> >
> > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:30:15 -0700
> >
> > From: Val Lipow mailto:valli...@gmail.com>>
> >
> > To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com "
> > mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
> >
> > Subject: Group for Frame users developing docs for Defense Dept.
> >
> >Agencies?
> >
> > Message-ID: <886745cd-c507-48ef-850a-9b16f5db3...@gmail.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Is there a group for those of us who write for US military
> > customers/audiences? If so, please direct me to it; if not, are others
> > interested in forming one?
> >
> > Val
> >
> > 
> >
> > Al Friend
> >
> > Safety Officer
> >
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military docs list

[Valerie Lipow]

Thanks, Jack. I just submitted a request to join the group.

Still, not everyone can or wants to use LinkedIn at work. So, if there is
any interest in an email list, please let me know.


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM,  wrote:

> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/US-Technical-Writers-3476130
>
>
>
> This group advertises itself as for DoD and other defense writers.
>
>
>
> Jack DeLand
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Alan T Litchfield" 
> *To: *framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 15, 2013 3:34:04 PM
> *Subject: *Re: military docs list
>
> Me too.
>
> Alan
>
> On 15/07/13 11:42 PM, Al Friend wrote:
> > I?d certainly take a look at this.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Val wrote:
> >
> > Message: 5
> >
> > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:30:15 -0700
> >
> > From: Val Lipow mailto:vallipow at gmail.com>>
> >
> > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com <mailto:framers at 
> > lists.frameusers.com>"
> > mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
> >
> > Subject: Group for Frame users developing docs for Defense Dept.
> >
> >Agencies?
> >
> > Message-ID: <886745CD-C507-48EF-850A-9B16F5DB32F3 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:886745CD-C507-48EF-850A-9B16F5DB32F3 at gmail.com>>
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Is there a group for those of us who write for US military
> > customers/audiences? If so, please direct me to it; if not, are others
> > interested in forming one?
> >
> > Val
> >
> > 
> >
> > Al Friend
> >
> > Safety Officer
> >
> > Tech Writer/Editor
> >
> > Documentation Control Coordinator
> >
> > hli logo 6_cmyk
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Re: Setting up files for structured use

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-MattMatt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | m...@mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM,  wrote:I believe that I need to set up \ maker.ini and \ structapps.fm to facilitate alternately using two versions of one standard.Although you can customize some of your settings, there's no inherent need to modify the maker.ini to do what you describe. With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global, both available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're getting snarled in the combinations of these files.I suggest you start with a fresh install of Fm11 to see if you can get everything working without modifying the maker.ini, and then proceed to the existing installs.I know that, in \ maker.ini, I can specify _one_ folder that contains \ structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd and the transformation files.  If I specify a folder other than \ Structure in its default location, I want the \ structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd, and the transformation files to be on a server on the local area network.  This works for using only _one_ version of the standard.I need to set up to alternately use _two_ versions of the standard.I know that, in \ structapps.fm, in the structured applications, I can specify various paths to different versions of the of the "rules" file, the .dtd, and such.Unfortunately, with the "rules" file and the .dtd on a server on the local area network, more often than not, FrameMaker complains that it cannot read the "rules" file.  I have ensured that:   1.  In the structured application, the path to the "rules" file is correct.   2.  For the "rules" file and the folder containing it, the check box for attribute "Read-only" has no check mark.Fm11 is probably are not properly "reading" your structapps file, and doesn't yet "see" what you think it does.It seems as though I could set up to alternately use _two_ versions of one standard by editing \ maker.ini and having two versions of it to specify different locations on the server for the "structure" files.  When needing to change from one version of \ maker.ini to the other, I'd have to rename both to ensure that only _one_ is present.  This seems cumbersome (and a bit dangerous).You can set up as many structured applications as you like, and they'll all work properly, as long as Fm11 "knows" which ones you want to use.I hope that I'm missing something truly obscure (or even obvious) and that there's an easier way to be flexible and to work faster, better, and cheaper.Help, please.¡Thanks!Dave StammInformation Engineer___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Setting up files for structured use

[Matt Sullivan]

-Matt

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM,  wrote:

> 
> I believe that I need to set up \ maker.ini and \ structapps.fm to facilitate 
> alternately using two versions of one standard.
Although you can customize some of your settings, there's no inherent need to 
modify the maker.ini to do what you describe. 

With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and 
install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global, both 
available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're getting 
snarled in the combinations of these files.

I suggest you start with a fresh install of Fm11 to see if you can get 
everything working without modifying the maker.ini, and then proceed to the 
existing installs.

> I know that, in \ maker.ini, I can specify _one_ folder that contains \ 
> structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd and the transformation files.  If I 
> specify a folder other than \ Structure in its default location, I want the \ 
> structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd, and the transformation files to be 
> on a server on the local area network.  This works for using only _one_ 
> version of the standard.
> 
> I need to set up to alternately use _two_ versions of the standard.
> 
> I know that, in \ structapps.fm, in the structured applications, I can 
> specify various paths to different versions of the of the "rules" file, the 
> .dtd, and such.
> 
> Unfortunately, with the "rules" file and the .dtd on a server on the local 
> area network, more often than not, FrameMaker complains that it cannot read 
> the "rules" file.  I have ensured that:
> 
>   1.  In the structured application, the path to the "rules" file is correct.
> 
>   2.  For the "rules" file and the folder containing it, the check box for 
> attribute "Read-only" has no check mark.
Fm11 is probably are not properly "reading" your structapps file, and doesn't 
yet "see" what you think it does.
> 
> It seems as though I could set up to alternately use _two_ versions of one 
> standard by editing \ maker.ini and having two versions of it to specify 
> different locations on the server for the "structure" files.  When needing to 
> change from one version of \ maker.ini to the other, I'd have to rename both 
> to ensure that only _one_ is present.  This seems cumbersome (and a bit 
> dangerous).

You can set up as many structured applications as you like, and they'll all 
work properly, as long as Fm11 "knows" which ones you want to use.
> 
> I hope that I'm missing something truly obscure (or even obvious) and that 
> there's an easier way to be flexible and to work faster, better, and cheaper.
> 
> Help, please.
> 
> ?Thanks!
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
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military docs list

[Alan T Litchfield]

Me too.

Alan

On 15/07/13 11:42 PM, Al Friend wrote:
> I?d certainly take a look at this.
>
> 
>
> Val wrote:
>
> Message: 5
>
> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:30:15 -0700
>
> From: Val Lipow mailto:vallipow at gmail.com>>
>
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com "
> mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
>
> Subject: Group for Frame users developing docs for Defense Dept.
>
>Agencies?
>
> Message-ID: <886745CD-C507-48EF-850A-9B16F5DB32F3 at gmail.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Is there a group for those of us who write for US military
> customers/audiences? If so, please direct me to it; if not, are others
> interested in forming one?
>
> Val
>
> 
>
> Al Friend
>
> Safety Officer
>
> Tech Writer/Editor
>
> Documentation Control Coordinator
>
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>
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Setting up files for structured use

[Dave.Stamm]

2013-07-16-02T13:20Z

I need help setting up files for structured use by four persons.  Since the 
last time I set this up, the versions of the operating system, FrameMaker, and 
Acrobat have changed.

Windows 7 Enterprise operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 (stand-alone) installed on workstation
Colleagues have FrameMaker 11 out of Technical Communication Suite 
installed on their workstations
Acrobat XI Pro 11.0.1 installed on workstation
.book file and its children on a server on the local area network

I believe that I need to set up \ maker.ini and \ structapps.fm to facilitate 
alternately using two versions of one standard.

I know that, in \ maker.ini, I can specify _one_ folder that contains \ 
structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd and the transformation files.  If I 
specify a folder other than \ Structure in its default location, I want the \ 
structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd, and the transformation files to be 
on a server on the local area network.  This works for using only _one_ version 
of the standard.

I need to set up to alternately use _two_ versions of the standard.

I know that, in \ structapps.fm, in the structured applications, I can specify 
various paths to different versions of the of the "rules" file, the .dtd, and 
such.

Unfortunately, with the "rules" file and the .dtd on a server on the local area 
network, more often than not, FrameMaker complains that it cannot read the 
"rules" file.  I have ensured that:

   1.  In the structured application, the path to the "rules" file is correct.

   2.  For the "rules" file and the folder containing it, the check box for 
attribute "Read-only" has no check mark.

It seems as though I could set up to alternately use _two_ versions of one 
standard by editing \ maker.ini and having two versions of it to specify 
different locations on the server for the "structure" files.  When needing to 
change from one version of \ maker.ini to the other, I'd have to rename both to 
ensure that only _one_ is present.  This seems cumbersome (and a bit dangerous).

I hope that I'm missing something truly obscure (or even obvious) and that 
there's an easier way to be flexible and to work faster, better, and cheaper.

Help, please.

¡Thanks!
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[dave.st...@gdc4s.com]

2013-07-16-02T13:20Z

I need help setting up files for structured use by four persons.  Since the 
last time I set this up, the versions of the operating system, FrameMaker, and 
Acrobat have changed.

Windows 7 Enterprise operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 (stand-alone) installed on workstation
Colleagues have FrameMaker 11 out of Technical Communication Suite 
installed on their workstations
Acrobat XI Pro 11.0.1 installed on workstation
.book file and its children on a server on the local area network

I believe that I need to set up \?maker.ini and \?structapps.fm to facilitate 
alternately using two versions of one standard.

I know that, in \?maker.ini, I can specify _one_ folder that contains 
\?structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd and the transformation files.  If I 
specify a folder other than \?Structure in its default location, I want the 
\?structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd, and the transformation files to be 
on a server on the local area network.  This works for using only _one_ version 
of the standard.

I need to set up to alternately use _two_ versions of the standard.

I know that, in \?structapps.fm, in the structured applications, I can specify 
various paths to different versions of the of the "rules" file, the .dtd, and 
such.

Unfortunately, with the "rules" file and the .dtd on a server on the local area 
network, more often than not, FrameMaker complains that it cannot read the 
"rules" file.  I have ensured that:

   1.  In the structured application, the path to the "rules" file is correct.

   2.  For the "rules" file and the folder containing it, the check box for 
attribute "Read-only" has no check mark.

It seems as though I could set up to alternately use _two_ versions of one 
standard by editing \?maker.ini and having two versions of it to specify 
different locations on the server for the "structure" files.  When needing to 
change from one version of \?maker.ini to the other, I'd have to rename both to 
ensure that only _one_ is present.  This seems cumbersome (and a bit dangerous).

I hope that I'm missing something truly obscure (or even obvious) and that 
there's an easier way to be flexible and to work faster, better, and cheaper.

Help, please.

?Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer