RE: Chapter numbers
Ah - solved my own problem with help of 'Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured Framemaker'. Set the numbering to continue from previous page in book. I don't know why this wasn't set in my original template. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent Sent: 08 August 2013 21:16 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Chapter numbers I have a template (taken from a book) that has a master page with a chapter number style defined - it's used on the header. This works fine in the original book. When I create a new book and new fm documents in that book, the chapter numbers don't update. Why could this be? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Chapter numbers
Ignore previous email. I have documents that start with a tag called 'ChapTitle' and some that start with Heading1. The reference pages are set up so that pages with 'ChapTitle' on them will use the 'First' master page. This has a header with the chapter number in it. Pages starting with Heading1 are Right/Left and don't have a chapternumber Every file in the book is set to 'Continue Numbering from Previous Chapter in book'. The chapter numbers increment correctly. The document with a Heading1 tag should show the numbering '3.1'. It doesn't, it shows '4.1'. The chapter number has incremented. Why is this? From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent Sent: 08 August 2013 21:16 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Chapter numbers I have a template (taken from a book) that has a master page with a chapter number style defined - it's used on the header. This works fine in the original book. When I create a new book and new fm documents in that book, the chapter numbers don't update. Why could this be? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
Hi Ken, I have used FM11 unstructured on Win7 with files on the network since FM11 was released. I have no problems. Maybe your files are too big with the embedded ages? On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Ken Poshedly wrote: Due to the addition of 2 new contract writers and the replacement of the hard drive in an existing terminal in my department, we're now stuck with Windows 7 and FrameMaker 11 on those three platforms for the past month or so. And it's been nothing but problems ever since, with unpredictable crashes on the desktop computers used by the two contract writers, even though all three FM 11 platforms have all the Adobe patches. One thing which does seem consistent is that FM11 does not seem to work well with files located on our network server, yet that is really the method here. Symptoms may include _extremely_ long times to open, save and close files and MAY include the abovementioned FrameMaker crashes, though we have not yet confirmed that. The fix is for the contract writers to copy files from our 4-terrabyte network drive onto external hard drives cabled to their terminals and for my coworker to copy files directly onto his computer's internal hard drive; then copy the revised file back into place in its location on the network drive. The two contract writer desktop computers have ridiculously internal small hard drives. (One is 29 megabytes and the other is 185 megabytes I've been told.) Me? I'm happy as a clam with Windows XP and FrameMaker 8 working across the network with no FM crashes or other problems -- though I do have to suffer through the long times to open, save and close files because we now must embed all our graphics instead of referencing them. (I've boohoo'd about that here in the past, so I'll not repeat the faulty reasoning for it once again.) But doom is in my future, as all four of us are soon to get new platforms with Windows 7 and FM 11. This I really dread. Who else out there is having what seems to be incompatibility problems with platforms equipped with FM 11 and Windows 7 and how have you gotten around those problems? Off-list accounts, etc, are fine. -- Ken in Atlanta -- *John Sgammato * Documentation Architect *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *w* +1-(508) 927-2083 *Recover anything instantly for up to 90% less than you're paying now.* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
a different experience RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
I have used FM 11 with Windows 7 working on files from a network for months and, while not crash free, I have experienced relatively few crashes. The first patch that adobe released help a lot with printing issues. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:54 AM To: FrameMaker Users List Subject: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Due to the addition of 2 new contract writers and the replacement of the hard drive in an existing terminal in my department, we're now stuck with Windows 7 and FrameMaker 11 on those three platforms for the past month or so. ...snipped ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: An interesting Mif2Go project - will this work?
It's been a big project, but we were successful! Here's the skinny: I need to import unstructured FM content into a new SalesForce Knowledge knowledge base. Individual procedures written in FM11 get published out via Mif2Go as Standard HTML (not help), and then imported by SalesForce with the help of a .CSV file. Overall it required about a 30-step procedure to get the content into SF, but now I plan to trim down the process. Then I will write it up and present it at the STC Summit or some other place. The first question is: Why is this so difficult? I think it's because it is a technically challenging project that demands a lot of up-front work on the FM side, so no knowledgebase provider wants to develop and support it, and Adobe doesn't see the value in it for the neglected FrameMaker product (and market!) The trick is to produce what SalesForce needs from what FM can give it. SalesForce's importer is pretty primitive and inflexible. AFAIK this is not unusual; last year I tried the same thing with a MindTouch knowledge base and that could import only from a .CHM, and even that was plagued with problems. SalesForce needs a set of HTML pages saved in a particular nested file structure, accompanied by a .CSV file that provides the title of each article, its address, and some other information. The HTML, folders, and CSV must all be provided in a .ZIP along with a Project file created by the SalesForce admin. FM's Save as HTML is buggy, barely supported by Adobe, and its HTML is not very clean. I could not generate good individual HTML pages from RoboHelp. Mif2Go offers the flexibility I needed. To develop the CSV was a different adventure. I needed a list of article titles mapped to the HTML file names, which are autogenerated with names like aa100543.htm. I could open each file and copy the title (there is a Mif2Go setting to make the title match the FM Heading 1 or Heading 2), but that would be tedious and error-prone for hundreds of files. Jeremy had a workaround to get my titles and file names together. After generating the Standard HTML output, I generated OmniHelp output just to get a single .JS page with the list I needed. I deleted all the rest of the output, keeping only that file. Then I edited the file with several search-and-replaces and saved it as .CSV. Then I was able to zip together the HTML and the .CSV and hand it off to the SalesForce Admin, who (after a few false starts) finally reproducibly imported 24 and then 56 files. We have some bugs, but we think we know how to fix them. Now I have to refine the process, learn how to optimize my FM content, and document it because once the knowledgebase is launched with my existing FM content, I am committed to updating it forever! Thanks everyone for all your input on this complex project! john On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 5:24 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.comwrote: Thank you for all the guidance! I hope to get to it tonight On Sunday, August 4, 2013, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 16:20:31 -0400, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote: I have no [OmniHelpOptions] at all. I renamed the HTML version, changing nothing but the name. That failed, so I tried editing Config= to point to he OmniHelp file - see below. I know something's not right, but I don't understand this path well enough to figure it out. The path looks fine. I gather you aren't using the Documents template for HTML either? That's OK, as long as the two projects are the same with that. The rest of your settings look OK. Oh, add: [HelpContentsLevels] Title=1 Heading1=1 Heading2=1 If you make them all level 1, your first replace will always be of [1,, no wildcard needed. See par. 7.4.3, Including contents entries in HTML-based Help. Perhaps I should have been more explicit about what to do in the Choose project dialog. Select the HTML project, but don't push any buttons yet. Change the name in the top field, and for the second field push [...] and choose the new Omnihelp output directory, Then select Omnihelp in the last field. NOW, press Add, then OK. It should go on to the Export dialog, just continue as usual. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- *John Sgammato * Documentation Architect *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *w* +1-(508) 927-2083 *Recover anything instantly for up to 90% less than you're paying now. * -- *John Sgammato *
7.2 to 11 Upgrade and reference pages
I recently upgraded from Frame 7.2 to 11 and have found that some of my reference page elements didn't make the transition very well. I have 2-column, 1-row tables with Note, Important, or Warning in the first cell. These labels are non-anchored frames in the reference page and appeared just fine in Frame 7.2 body pages. In Frame 11, these labels are cut off so that when I insert one of these tables into the body, the Note label displays No, Important displays Import, and Warning displays Warn. My question is 2-part: First, how do I adjust these unanchored frames in the Reference page so that when I insert a new one of these tables, the full word displays in the first cell? My second question is: Is there a way to fix all of the existing tables globally that are already in the document so I don't have to manually stretch the first cell on every occurrence of these tables in each of my projects? Thank you for the help, David Millis ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
Hi Ken, One option that you have is to put your files in a SVN repository. If you do this, then checked out files will be local to the person's computer and there's no issue with network latency etc. You can certainly do the check out to an external hard drive to if that's needed. Once the user is done modifying the files, they just commit them with a click of a button to the repository. I have been using SVN with FrameMaker for years and its worked fine without a problem. I love it because none of the network latency issues that are associated with later versions of Frame affect you -- because the network is almost completely removed from the equation. It also makes working over VPN a breeze, where i'd rather eat broken class then try to edit FM files on a NFS through VPN. If you want additional details, let me know. Sincerely Joesph Lorenzini ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
You are one tremendously lucky person to avoid a crash for that long. FM crashes on me a couple of times a week on average. How much RAM do you have on your system? On the SUN workstations we never saw a crash. But that was FMv5.5. Craig Win7, 8GB From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Posada Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PM To: Ken Poshedly Cc: FrameUsers List Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Chapter numbers
What you describe is true because the continue from previous file in book numbering option is not a property of a chapter file. Because that option only has relevance when the file is part of a book, the behavior can only be set as part of the book file's properties. This logic allows the same chapter file to be used independently (with the numbering properties that are set within the file itself), or to be used in any number of different book files, each with its own numbering setup. -Fred Ridder From: alastair.d...@imgtec.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Chapter numbers Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 08:52:39 + Ah – solved my own problem with help of ‘Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured Framemaker’. Set the numbering to continue from previous page in book. I don’t know why this wasn’t set in my original template. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent Sent: 08 August 2013 21:16 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Chapter numbers I have a template (taken from a book) that has a master page with a chapter number style defined - it's used on the header. This works fine in the original book. When I create a new book and new fm documents in that book, the chapter numbers don't update. Why could this be? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
I've been running the combo for a couple years on multiple systems and crashes are really few and far between,.. Very stable, IMHO. ONE OTHER factor -- if you have aggressive anti-virus software enabled, that's one other point of potential failure. Why? If your book or document includes multiple files in networked locations OR simply big files, a poorly designed or implemented virus scanner will scan each file each time it's opened and one FM document or book will typically contain lots of files. Add that to network traffic and it'll slow things down enough to crash. It's a problem that's easy to test though -- just disable it for a while. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: You are one tremendously lucky person to avoid a crash for that long. FM crashes on me a couple of times a week on average. How much RAM do you have on your system? On the SUN workstations we never saw a crash. But that was FMv5.5. Craig Win7, 8GB From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Posada Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PM To: Ken Poshedly Cc: FrameUsers List Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: 7.2 to 11 Upgrade and reference pages
First, if you updated the file by opening the 7 as an 11 and saving, I'd save the file as a .mif and open that to ensure that you're working in a file without extra characters and any possible 7 hangover effects. Once you know you have clean files, the first things I'd check would be your table formats -- it sounds as if either the width of the cell has changed, or the alignment has changed, maybe from left to center? You should be able to check this quickly by applying a different table format and seeing if that changes things. After that, I'd check the settings in whatever para tags you're using to format the text -- that also may have been changed in the updare. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:57 PM, David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com wrote: I recently upgraded from Frame 7.2 to 11 and have found that some of my reference page elements didn’t make the transition very well. I have 2-column, 1-row tables with “Note”, “Important”, or “Warning” in the first cell. These labels are non-anchored frames in the reference page and appeared just fine in Frame 7.2 body pages. In Frame 11, these labels are cut off so that when I insert one of these tables into the body, the “Note” label displays “No”, “Important” displays “Import”, and “Warning” displays “Warn”. My question is 2-part: First, how do I adjust these unanchored frames in the Reference page so that when I insert a new one of these tables, the full word displays in the first cell? My second question is: Is there a way to “fix” all of the existing tables globally that are already in the document so I don’t have to manually stretch the first cell on every occurrence of these tables in each of my projects? Thank you for the help, David Millis ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
At 01:32 a.m. 10/08/2013, Rick Quatro wrote: > >Otherwise, make sure the writers have plenty of RAM. In my opinion, 8 GB is >the minimum. This may help with the performance problems. > More than 4 GB of RAM is of absolutely no use for running a 32-bit application, whether it be on a 32-bit or 64-bit operating system. Helen
Chapter numbers
What you describe is true because the "continue from previous file in book" numbering option is not a property of a chapter file. Because that option only has relevance when the file is part of a book, the behavior can only be set as part of the book file's properties. This logic allows the same chapter file to be used independently (with the numbering properties that are set within the file itself), or to be used in any number of different book files, each with its own numbering setup. -Fred Ridder From: alastair.d...@imgtec.com To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Chapter numbers Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 08:52:39 + Ah ? solved my own problem with help of ?Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured Framemaker?. Set the numbering to continue from previous page in book. I don?t know why this wasn?t set in my original template. From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent Sent: 08 August 2013 21:16 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Chapter numbers I have a template (taken from a book) that has a master page with a chapter number style defined - it's used on the header. This works fine in the original book. When I create a new book and new fm documents in that book, the chapter numbers don't update. Why could this be? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130810/d72abc72/attachment.html>
Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
I've been running the combo for a couple years on multiple systems and crashes are really few and far between,.. Very stable, IMHO. ONE OTHER factor -- if you have aggressive anti-virus software enabled, that's one other point of potential failure. Why? If your book or document includes multiple files in networked locations OR simply big files, a poorly designed or implemented virus scanner will scan each file each time it's opened and one FM document or book will typically contain lots of files. Add that to network traffic and it'll slow things down enough to crash. It's a problem that's easy to test though -- just disable it for a while. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Craig Ede wrote: > You are one tremendously lucky person to avoid a crash for that long. FM > crashes on me a couple of times a week on average. How much RAM do you have > on your system? > > > > On the SUN workstations we never saw a crash. But that was FMv5.5. > > > > Craig > > Win7, 8GB > > > > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Posada > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PM > To: Ken Poshedly > Cc: FrameUsers List > Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! > > > > Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
7.2 to 11 Upgrade and reference pages
First, if you updated the file by opening the 7 as an 11 and saving, I'd save the file as a .mif and open that to ensure that you're working in a file without extra characters and any possible 7 hangover effects. Once you know you have clean files, the first things I'd check would be your table formats -- it sounds as if either the width of the cell has changed, or the alignment has changed, maybe from left to center? You should be able to check this quickly by applying a different table format and seeing if that changes things. After that, I'd check the settings in whatever para tags you're using to format the text -- that also may have been changed in the updare. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:57 PM, David Millis wrote: > I recently upgraded from Frame 7.2 to 11 and have found that some of my > reference page elements didn?t make the transition very well. > > > > I have 2-column, 1-row tables with ?Note?, ?Important?, or ?Warning? in the > first cell. These labels are non-anchored frames in the reference page and > appeared just fine in Frame 7.2 body pages. In Frame 11, these labels are > cut off so that when I insert one of these tables into the body, the ?Note? > label displays ?No?, ?Important? displays ?Import?, and ?Warning? displays > ?Warn?. > > > > My question is 2-part: First, how do I adjust these unanchored frames in the > Reference page so that when I insert a new one of these tables, the full > word displays in the first cell? > > > > My second question is: Is there a way to ?fix? all of the existing tables > globally that are already in the document so I don?t have to manually > stretch the first cell on every occurrence of these tables in each of my > projects? > > > > Thank you for the help, > > > > David Millis > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
