RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
This is not precisely what you ask for, but you can use copy special to copy a conditional text setting and apply that easily to any text you want. I typically apply my conditions in this way by doing the first para of a sequence, setting the condition(s) as I want and then copying the conditional settings to the clipboard. When I finish adding the paras I need in that condition, I paste the condition setting to all the paras in that sequence and move on to the next sequence of paras, applying the condition as needed in the same way. This way you only have to set up the condition once and are merely pasting it for the rest of the paras. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Zuniga Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:54 PM To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
Enter a 'dummy' character to the right of your cursor before pressing enter (making sure that the condition applies to this). From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Jaime Zuniga [jzun...@protranslating.com] Sent: 29 August 2013 20:53 To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
I was going to suggest this same workaround, but I thought I'd better test it before I recommended it since I have not used it since FM6 or maybe 7. I currently use FM9, and with this version (at least) the workaround doesn't work quite right. It does successfully leave the condition tag in effect for the new paragraph, since the new paragraph is not an empty paragraph due to the dummy character. But the new pilcrow at the end of the existing paragraph becomes unconditional, which *will* cause problems downstream because you'll wind up with vertical whitespace for every not-quite-fully-conditionalized paragraph. Bummer. -Fred Ridder From: alastair.d...@imgtec.com To: jzun...@protranslating.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:23:13 + Enter a 'dummy' character to the right of your cursor before pressing enter (making sure that the condition applies to this). From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Jaime Zuniga [jzun...@protranslating.com] Sent: 29 August 2013 20:53 To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
Fred et. al. (and particularly Al), I believe it works if you conditionalize the pilcrow preceding the conditional text. Now, I realize that this is an absurd solution from any user's perspective, but in the land of a devolving product, if it works (i.e., eliminates that vertical white space) . :) Elchanan From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:50 AM To: Alastair Dent; Jaime Zuniga; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? I was going to suggest this same workaround, but I thought I'd better test it before I recommended it since I have not used it since FM6 or maybe 7. I currently use FM9, and with this version (at least) the workaround doesn't work quite right. It does successfully leave the condition tag in effect for the new paragraph, since the new paragraph is not an empty paragraph due to the dummy character. But the new pilcrow at the end of the existing paragraph becomes unconditional, which *will* cause problems downstream because you'll wind up with vertical whitespace for every not-quite-fully-conditionalized paragraph. Bummer. -Fred Ridder _ From: alastair.d...@imgtec.com To: jzun...@protranslating.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:23:13 + Enter a 'dummy' character to the right of your cursor before pressing enter (making sure that the condition applies to this). _ From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Jaime Zuniga [jzun...@protranslating.com] Sent: 29 August 2013 20:53 To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
If I understand what you are suggesting, your workaround will only solve the problem with Alistair's workaround when there are exactly two conditional paragraphs in a row, because the problem I observed occurs *every* time you start a new conditionalized paragraph. The last paragraph in the chain will have a conditionalized pilcrow, but every other paragraph will be incompletely conditionalized and will produce vertical whitespace. You can kludge the immediately preceding non-conditionalized paragraph to suppress the first instance of whitespace as you suggest, but that doesn't really fix the problem. In fact, if the two paragraphs have different formatting, your workaround will actually *cause* problems because the unconditionalized paragraph will be formatted according to the pilcrow for the first conditional paragraph when you hide the condition. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:07:54 -0700 Fred et. al. (and particularly Al), I believe it works if you conditionalize the pilcrow preceding the conditional text. Now, I realize that this is an absurd solution from any user’s perspective, but in the land of a devolving product, if it works (i.e., eliminates that vertical white space) … :) Elchanan From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:50 AM To: Alastair Dent; Jaime Zuniga; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? I was going to suggest this same workaround, but I thought I'd better test it before I recommended it since I have not used it since FM6 or maybe 7. I currently use FM9, and with this version (at least) the workaround doesn't work quite right. It does successfully leave the condition tag in effect for the new paragraph, since the new paragraph is not an empty paragraph due to the dummy character. But the new pilcrow at the end of the existing paragraph becomes unconditional, which *will* cause problems downstream because you'll wind up with vertical whitespace for every not-quite-fully-conditionalized paragraph. Bummer. -Fred RidderFrom: alastair.d...@imgtec.com To: jzun...@protranslating.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:23:13 +Enter a 'dummy' character to the right of your cursor before pressing enter (making sure that the condition applies to this).From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Jaime Zuniga [jzun...@protranslating.com] Sent: 29 August 2013 20:53 To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
Enter a 'dummy' character to the right of your cursor before pressing enter (making sure that the condition applies to this). From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Jaime Zuniga [jzun...@protranslating.com] Sent: 29 August 2013 20:53 To: Frame Users (framers at lists.frameusers.com) (framers at lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130904/8866576a/attachment.html>
Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
I was going to suggest this same workaround, but I thought I'd better test it before I recommended it since I have not used it since FM6 or maybe 7. I currently use FM9, and with this version (at least) the workaround doesn't work quite right. It does successfully leave the condition tag in effect for the new paragraph, since the new paragraph is not an empty paragraph due to the "dummy" character. But the new pilcrow at the end of the existing paragraph becomes unconditional, which *will* cause problems downstream because you'll wind up with vertical whitespace for every not-quite-fully-conditionalized paragraph. Bummer. -Fred Ridder From: alastair.d...@imgtec.com To: JZuniga at protranslating.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:23:13 + Enter a 'dummy' character to the right of your cursor before pressing enter (making sure that the condition applies to this). From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Jaime Zuniga [jzun...@protranslating.com] Sent: 29 August 2013 20:53 To: Frame Users (framers at lists.frameusers.com) (framers at lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130904/a40cb7f7/attachment.html>
Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
Fred et. al. (and particularly Al), I believe it works if you conditionalize the pilcrow preceding the conditional text. Now, I realize that this is an absurd solution from any user's perspective, but in the land of a devolving product, if it works (i.e., eliminates that vertical white space) . :) Elchanan From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:50 AM To: Alastair Dent; Jaime Zuniga; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? I was going to suggest this same workaround, but I thought I'd better test it before I recommended it since I have not used it since FM6 or maybe 7. I currently use FM9, and with this version (at least) the workaround doesn't work quite right. It does successfully leave the condition tag in effect for the new paragraph, since the new paragraph is not an empty paragraph due to the "dummy" character. But the new pilcrow at the end of the existing paragraph becomes unconditional, which *will* cause problems downstream because you'll wind up with vertical whitespace for every not-quite-fully-conditionalized paragraph. Bummer. -Fred Ridder _ From: alastair.d...@imgtec.com To: JZuniga at protranslating.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:23:13 + Enter a 'dummy' character to the right of your cursor before pressing enter (making sure that the condition applies to this). _ From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Jaime Zuniga [JZuniga at protranslating.com] Sent: 29 August 2013 20:53 To: Frame Users (framers at lists.frameusers.com) (framers at lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130904/c7a68a59/attachment.html>
Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?
If I understand what you are suggesting, your workaround will only solve the problem with Alistair's workaround when there are exactly two conditional paragraphs in a row, because the problem I observed occurs *every* time you start a new conditionalized paragraph. The last paragraph in the chain will have a conditionalized pilcrow, but every other paragraph will be incompletely conditionalized and will produce vertical whitespace. You can kludge the immediately preceding non-conditionalized paragraph to suppress the first instance of whitespace as you suggest, but that doesn't really fix the problem. In fact, if the two paragraphs have different formatting, your workaround will actually *cause* problems because the unconditionalized paragraph will be formatted according to the pilcrow for the first conditional paragraph when you hide the condition. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers at Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:07:54 -0700 Fred et. al. (and particularly Al), I believe it works if you conditionalize the pilcrow preceding the conditional text. Now, I realize that this is an absurd solution from any user?s perspective, but in the land of a devolving product, if it works (i.e., eliminates that vertical white space) ? :) Elchanan From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:50 AM To: Alastair Dent; Jaime Zuniga; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? I was going to suggest this same workaround, but I thought I'd better test it before I recommended it since I have not used it since FM6 or maybe 7. I currently use FM9, and with this version (at least) the workaround doesn't work quite right. It does successfully leave the condition tag in effect for the new paragraph, since the new paragraph is not an empty paragraph due to the "dummy" character. But the new pilcrow at the end of the existing paragraph becomes unconditional, which *will* cause problems downstream because you'll wind up with vertical whitespace for every not-quite-fully-conditionalized paragraph. Bummer. -Fred RidderFrom: alastair.dent at imgtec.com To: JZuniga at protranslating.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:23:13 +Enter a 'dummy' character to the right of your cursor before pressing enter (making sure that the condition applies to this).From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Jaime Zuniga [JZuniga at protranslating.com] Sent: 29 August 2013 20:53 To: Frame Users (framers at lists.frameusers.com) (framers at lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?Hi Everyone, How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next. For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the conditional formatting in the new paragraph. I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Jaime ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130904/a932d19a/attachment.html>