RE: Frame 11 (UNstructured Features)

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi Craig,

On the tekom/tcworld conference in Wiesbaden/Germany
Kapil Verna presented FrameMaker 12. I do not know when it
will come out, but it might be worth waiting a few months.

Featues for FrameMaker 12 which I remember:
Native export to epub, HTML 5
Much improved export to PDF for proofreading and import of comments
Grep for search and replace
Lots of fixed bugs
Improved assignment of conditional formats
Editor for show/hide expresssions with brackets
FM server to publish PDF as web service
Two FrameMaker variants: FM Full (as we know it)/XML Author (only for XML 
authoring)
MathML support

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Frame 11 (UNstructured Features)

Sometime last year when Frame 11 came out, there were any number of e-mails 
that dealt with (or had links to) what was new in the product.

We are currently looking at whether to move our tech doc team from Frame 9 to 
Frame 11 - given that when Frame 12 comes out, we'd have to buy completely new 
copies rather than go the update route.

I've looked in my archive and can't find the threads that discussed this. Can 
anyone point me in the right direction?

Note that I am interested in details regarding unstructured Frame. I also 
realize that there are any number of changes from Frame 10 that may be useful 
to us as well.

Alison



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Re: DITA conversion and cross-ref IDs

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 11:00:50 +1300, "rebecca officer" 
 wrote:

>We're currently in the process of converting from 
>Unstructured FrameMaker files to DITA using FrameMaker 11. 
>The engineer who's working on the conversion has a 
>question about cross-references. When he structures 
>the document using the conversion table, he'd like to 
>be able to save the Idref value for the cross-reference 
>as an attribute in the element it is wrapped in. At the 
>moment, when he structures the document, all he can 
>manage is to wrap the text in a  element.

That's just one of hundreds of problems you will have
trying to use the conversion table method.  It's grossly
inadequate.  Links, graphics, tables... it's a long list.

>If anyone's got any ideas about how to do this - or about 
>how else to avoid having to manually re-create thousands 
>of cross-refs - I'd be really grateful! The engineer's 
>happy with scripting, esp Python, so it doesn't have to 
>be a purely FM solution.

Um, you already *have* Mif2Go.  We spent quite a few
engineer-years working with DITA TC members on many
large conversion projects (including IBM's) to get it
right.  And to make it as easy as possible.  This has
actually become the second-biggest use case for Mif2Go
(the biggest is still conversion to Word).  Save
yourself a BIG bundle of time and money, and use it.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/
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DITA conversion and cross-ref IDs

[rebecca officer]

Hi everyone
 
We're currently in the process of converting from Unstructured FrameMaker files 
to DITA using FrameMaker 11. 
The engineer who's working on the conversion has a question about 
cross-references. When he structures the document using the conversion table, 
he'd like to be able to save the Idref value for the cross-reference as an 
attribute in the element it is wrapped in. At the moment, when he structures 
the document, all he can manage is to wrap the text in a  element.
 
If anyone's got any ideas about how to do this - or about how else to avoid 
having to manually re-create thousands of cross-refs - I'd be really grateful! 
The engineer's happy with scripting, esp Python, so it doesn't have to be a 
purely FM solution.
 
Thanks very much,
Rebecca
 
 

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Re: DITA conversion and cross-ref IDs

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Rebecca...

There are two things here that you need to take into account. First is 
just getting cross-refs to remain linked up through the conversion 
process from FM to XML. Second is to get those cross-refs to reference 
the individual topic files that result from "shredding" the 
chapter-based XML files into DITA topics (assuming that you're planning 
on going to separate topics and not nested chapter-DITA files). Also 
getting the xref/@href format correctly build can be tricky 
("#/").


Long ago I developed a plugin to handle all of this, and I've forgotten 
how to do it without the plugin .. although it can be done (with lots of 
scripting of various sorts). I recall that one thing to try is to import 
a template into the FM files that reformats the cross-refs so they 
include the Idref in the cross-ref text. Change the format so this is in 
some delimiters to make it easy to locate .. perhaps "[[]]".


Maybe someone can provide you with more useful info.  :o



However .. what I'd suggest is that you download my FM2DITA plugin ..

http://leximation.com/tools/info/fm2dita.php

Give it a try and see if it does what you need. If nothing else, it may 
give you some tips on conversion table development and ideas for tools 
that you can develop in-house. It's chock full of utilities that will 
make your conversion process easier.




Also .. there's Mif2Go which costs less and once you get things set up, 
will basically "just work".


Remember that one of the reasons to use DITA is to leverage to tools 
that already exist rather than needing to create your own. No need to 
reinvent the wheel, right?


Cheers,

...scott



On 12/8/13 2:00 PM, rebecca officer wrote:

Hi everyone
We're currently in the process of converting from Unstructured 
FrameMaker files to DITA using FrameMaker 11.
The engineer who's working on the conversion has a question about 
cross-references. When he structures the document using the conversion 
table, he'd like to be able to save the Idref value for the 
cross-reference as an attribute in the element it is wrapped in. At 
the moment, when he structures the document, all he can manage is to 
wrap the text in a  element.
If anyone's got any ideas about how to do this - or about how else 
to avoid having to manually re-create thousands of cross-refs - I'd be 
really grateful! The engineer's happy with scripting, esp Python, so 
it doesn't have to be a purely FM solution.

Thanks very much,
Rebecca


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DITA conversion and cross-ref IDs

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Rebecca...

There are two things here that you need to take into account. First is 
just getting cross-refs to remain linked up through the conversion 
process from FM to XML. Second is to get those cross-refs to reference 
the individual topic files that result from "shredding" the 
chapter-based XML files into DITA topics (assuming that you're planning 
on going to separate topics and not nested chapter-DITA files). Also 
getting the xref/@href format correctly build can be tricky 
("#/").

Long ago I developed a plugin to handle all of this, and I've forgotten 
how to do it without the plugin .. although it can be done (with lots of 
scripting of various sorts). I recall that one thing to try is to import 
a template into the FM files that reformats the cross-refs so they 
include the Idref in the cross-ref text. Change the format so this is in 
some delimiters to make it easy to locate .. perhaps "[[]]".

Maybe someone can provide you with more useful info.  :o



However .. what I'd suggest is that you download my FM2DITA plugin ..

 http://leximation.com/tools/info/fm2dita.php

Give it a try and see if it does what you need. If nothing else, it may 
give you some tips on conversion table development and ideas for tools 
that you can develop in-house. It's chock full of utilities that will 
make your conversion process easier.



Also .. there's Mif2Go which costs less and once you get things set up, 
will basically "just work".

Remember that one of the reasons to use DITA is to leverage to tools 
that already exist rather than needing to create your own. No need to 
reinvent the wheel, right?

Cheers,

...scott



On 12/8/13 2:00 PM, rebecca officer wrote:
> Hi everyone
> We're currently in the process of converting from Unstructured 
> FrameMaker files to DITA using FrameMaker 11.
> The engineer who's working on the conversion has a question about 
> cross-references. When he structures the document using the conversion 
> table, he'd like to be able to save the Idref value for the 
> cross-reference as an attribute in the element it is wrapped in. At 
> the moment, when he structures the document, all he can manage is to 
> wrap the text in a  element.
> If anyone's got any ideas about how to do this - or about how else 
> to avoid having to manually re-create thousands of cross-refs - I'd be 
> really grateful! The engineer's happy with scripting, esp Python, so 
> it doesn't have to be a purely FM solution.
> Thanks very much,
> Rebecca
>
>
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