Re: FrameMaker documentation
On 19 Dec 2014 at 9:50, Robert Lauriston wrote: > The newly revised FM12 docs cover that under "Asian language support." Thank You Robert, It turns out that the 'official' (by FM directly addressed pdf/html) contain the following proviously separate documents: - Chinese and Korean Features (as of FM-7) [ - Japanese Publishing with Adobe FameMaker 7.0 [9 pages] It seems that the previously separate information is completely integrated now - on various places (¶-formats, index, find etc.). But I have to check that in detail to give feedback to Adobe. At least the availability of additional Japanese date building blocks (e.g. <$daynumkanjikazu>) is not mentioned in the FM-12 user guide. Have a nice day and also Merry Christmas Klaus ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Deleting Variables at the Book Level
Have you tried View->Pods->Variables at the book level with all files open in the book? In the pod, select All Open Docs. Granted you can delete only one variable at a time, but I find it really helpful to see all of the variables for all of the files lined up alphabetically and work through them that way. Carol At 11:00 AM 12/19/2014, you wrote: Is there any easy way to delete obsolete variables from the variables library at the book level (Frame 12)? ** Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC Making Information Understandable Phone: 719-948-3773 mailto:celk...@awrittenword.com http://www.awrittenword.com *** ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker documentation
I believe the Asian-language doc for FrameMaker 7 was made obsolete by support for Unicode added in FM8. It's online: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/chinese_korean.pdf The newly revised FM12 docs cover that under "Asian language support." On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Klaus Daube wrote: > Can somebody please refresh my memory? > > In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say: > « > Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. > It's my > impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by > Adobe. > > User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the > box only > contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your > PC to > the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the > chaper- > page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for > FM-7 has > 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left > out. Some > special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian > languages or > customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker documentation
FM12 ships with the User Guide in a chm. Complete User Guide. At least my FM12 did.Since then I have downloaded the PDF of the same version as well as the "new and updated (ya, right)" version. On Friday, December 19, 2014 10:27 AM, Mike Wickham wrote: Klaus, I got manuals with 7.0 and 7.1. They appear to be identical 7.0 manuals. I did not buy 7.2, so don't know on that one. 8.0 definitely did not come with a manual, nor any of the versions since. Mike Wickham On 12/19/2014 3:16 AM, Klaus Daube wrote: > Can somebody please refresh my memory? > > In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say: > « > Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. > It's my > impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by > Adobe. > > User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the > box only > contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your > PC to > the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the > chaper- > page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for > FM-7 has > 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left > out. Some > special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian > languages or > customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. > » > > What number I have to put in place of the ??? > Are my statements in error generally? > > Thanks > Klaus Daube > > > ~~ > Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich > Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper > F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as i...@mikewickham.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker documentation
Klaus, I got manuals with 7.0 and 7.1. They appear to be identical 7.0 manuals. I did not buy 7.2, so don't know on that one. 8.0 definitely did not come with a manual, nor any of the versions since. Mike Wickham On 12/19/2014 3:16 AM, Klaus Daube wrote: Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as i...@mikewickham.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides
Check out Matt Sullivan and Sarah O'Keefe's Publishing Fundamentals with FrameMaker 11. http://www.amazon.com/Publishing-Fundamentals-Unstructured-FrameMaker-11/dp/ 0982811853/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419000285&sr=8-1&keywords=publishing+fund amentals+framemaker+11 This is the updated version of an excellent book on FrameMaker that has been around since version 5... Happy Holidays! Warm Regards, Veronica Kutt President Front Runner Training, a div. of Front Runner Publishing Solutions Inc. (Local) 416-515-0155 (Toll Free) 1-877-999-0155 Follow me on https://twitter.com/@Veronica_FR Connect with me on LinkedIn ca.linkedin.com/in/veronicakutt -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com Sent: December-19-14 9:31 AM To: Steve Madison Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides If you are upgrading FM from ver. 9 or earlier, there's an excellent course on Lynda.com. It's on FM10, which is where the user interface changed. Tom Beiswenger Manager, technical & training documentation Bucher Emhart Glass Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Steve Madison wrote: > > In follow up to Klaus' comments about FM Getting Started guides, does anyone have a recommendation on a decent learning resource on getting started with FM12? > > > > - > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: > This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender via reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. > > - > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:16 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: FrameMaker documentation > > Can somebody please refresh my memory? > > In http://cp.mcafee.com/d/FZsS92hJ5x5UQsLn7ee6XCQTbI9EILCQTbI9EzDzqrBS4Qmn3qdNP 9EVuhsvsdGWxaBok1iQpgJZJFc_-ndHhB2TSSAP_VsTVEVgZAQsIfZvCbCzBxVDHTbFFLKsephoo hVqWdAklrCzB7BgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLOtXTLuZXTdTdw0Adr8vRyu8lITzGKBvyUqeu1NJSeG_6xsx lK5LE2zVkDjDoWHXtfzjBPrXaa9InzGLzuBvyq84aSrl-4ZDaI3qr1J_z9QCLAEhIV I say: > « > Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. > > User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has > 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. > » > > What number I have to put in place of the ??? > Are my statements in error generally? > > Thanks > Klaus Daube > > > ~~ > Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper > F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: http://cp.mcafee.com/d/k-Kr6xEg6jqb2bNEVuKessdTdFKnojhpvdFKnojh7f6QTbI9EIK6Q rzCjhOYyU-UrlR2laME2BEOxrXrip_YKrmza5LJJ9D_OVLPhOxX9EVovW_cnd7b3PfnKnjjvsUsO yMMzORQr8EGTd7afaxVZicHs3jqpJwTvAXTLuZXTKrKrasxHp3-IjdKNRnUQbAaJMJZ0kvaAWsX7 lvrFYqsKrvphhdyYtlYrQHYjh0xmPqLMDIVlwrjod_fNS > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as madis...@princecastle.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Q91MOrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BM SzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3 Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrpdI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo0c-l9QVSeG-TjUQVv1dnoplqsGMFzI tl-dclR2laMEfoKJ6kbvrqjf_BPrItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8 lISHY9Xelo6QS3rOLF2SS0kJf5 > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Qrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzss OqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm6 4umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrodI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo09SeG-TjUQVv3rItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDe NRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3uXQ5uvyA for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com. > > Send list messages
RE: FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides
Of course there's always the "bible" of FM - Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FM 11 updated by Matt Sullivan - that's my go-to reference -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Madison Sent: December-19-14 9:23 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides In follow up to Klaus' comments about FM Getting Started guides, does anyone have a recommendation on a decent learning resource on getting started with FM12? - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender via reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. - -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:16 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker documentation Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://cp.mcafee.com/d/FZsS92hJ5x5UQsLn7ee6XCQTbI9EILCQTbI9EzDzqrBS4Qmn3qdNP9EVuhsvsdGWxaBok1iQpgJZJFc_-ndHhB2TSSAP_VsTVEVgZAQsIfZvCbCzBxVDHTbFFLKsephoohVqWdAklrCzB7BgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLOtXTLuZXTdTdw0Adr8vRyu8lITzGKBvyUqeu1NJSeG_6xsxlK5LE2zVkDjDoWHXtfzjBPrXaa9InzGLzuBvyq84aSrl-4ZDaI3qr1J_z9QCLAEhIV I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: http://cp.mcafee.com/d/k-Kr6xEg6jqb2bNEVuKessdTdFKnojhpvdFKnojh7f6QTbI9EIK6QrzCjhOYyU-UrlR2laME2BEOxrXrip_YKrmza5LJJ9D_OVLPhOxX9EVovW_cnd7b3PfnKnjjvsUsOyMMzORQr8EGTd7afaxVZicHs3jqpJwTvAXTLuZXTKrKrasxHp3-IjdKNRnUQbAaJMJZ0kvaAWsX7lvrFYqsKrvphhdyYtlYrQHYjh0xmPqLMDIVlwrjod_fNS ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as madis...@princecastle.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Q91MOrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrpdI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo0c-l9QVSeG-TjUQVv1dnoplqsGMFzItl-dclR2laMEfoKJ6kbvrqjf_BPrItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3rOLF2SS0kJf5 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Qrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrodI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo09SeG-TjUQVv3rItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3uXQ5uvyA for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonasclub.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides
If you are upgrading FM from ver. 9 or earlier, there's an excellent course on Lynda.com. It's on FM10, which is where the user interface changed. Tom Beiswenger Manager, technical & training documentation Bucher Emhart Glass Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Steve Madison wrote: > > In follow up to Klaus' comments about FM Getting Started guides, does anyone have a recommendation on a decent learning resource on getting started with FM12? > > > > - > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: > This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender via reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. > > - > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:16 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: FrameMaker documentation > > Can somebody please refresh my memory? > > In http://cp.mcafee.com/d/FZsS92hJ5x5UQsLn7ee6XCQTbI9EILCQTbI9EzDzqrBS4Qmn3qdNP9EVuhsvsdGWxaBok1iQpgJZJFc_-ndHhB2TSSAP_VsTVEVgZAQsIfZvCbCzBxVDHTbFFLKsephoohVqWdAklrCzB7BgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLOtXTLuZXTdTdw0Adr8vRyu8lITzGKBvyUqeu1NJSeG_6xsxlK5LE2zVkDjDoWHXtfzjBPrXaa9InzGLzuBvyq84aSrl-4ZDaI3qr1J_z9QCLAEhIV I say: > « > Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. > > User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has > 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. > » > > What number I have to put in place of the ??? > Are my statements in error generally? > > Thanks > Klaus Daube > > > ~~ > Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper > F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: http://cp.mcafee.com/d/k-Kr6xEg6jqb2bNEVuKessdTdFKnojhpvdFKnojh7f6QTbI9EIK6QrzCjhOYyU-UrlR2laME2BEOxrXrip_YKrmza5LJJ9D_OVLPhOxX9EVovW_cnd7b3PfnKnjjvsUsOyMMzORQr8EGTd7afaxVZicHs3jqpJwTvAXTLuZXTKrKrasxHp3-IjdKNRnUQbAaJMJZ0kvaAWsX7lvrFYqsKrvphhdyYtlYrQHYjh0xmPqLMDIVlwrjod_fNS > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as madis...@princecastle.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Q91MOrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrpdI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo0c-l9QVSeG-TjUQVv1dnoplqsGMFzItl-dclR2laMEfoKJ6kbvrqjf_BPrItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3rOLF2SS0kJf5 > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Qrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrodI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo09SeG-TjUQVv3rItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3uXQ5uvyA for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tom.beiswenger%40emhartglass.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides
In follow up to Klaus' comments about FM Getting Started guides, does anyone have a recommendation on a decent learning resource on getting started with FM12? - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender via reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. - -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:16 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker documentation Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://cp.mcafee.com/d/FZsS92hJ5x5UQsLn7ee6XCQTbI9EILCQTbI9EzDzqrBS4Qmn3qdNP9EVuhsvsdGWxaBok1iQpgJZJFc_-ndHhB2TSSAP_VsTVEVgZAQsIfZvCbCzBxVDHTbFFLKsephoohVqWdAklrCzB7BgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLOtXTLuZXTdTdw0Adr8vRyu8lITzGKBvyUqeu1NJSeG_6xsxlK5LE2zVkDjDoWHXtfzjBPrXaa9InzGLzuBvyq84aSrl-4ZDaI3qr1J_z9QCLAEhIV I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: http://cp.mcafee.com/d/k-Kr6xEg6jqb2bNEVuKessdTdFKnojhpvdFKnojh7f6QTbI9EIK6QrzCjhOYyU-UrlR2laME2BEOxrXrip_YKrmza5LJJ9D_OVLPhOxX9EVovW_cnd7b3PfnKnjjvsUsOyMMzORQr8EGTd7afaxVZicHs3jqpJwTvAXTLuZXTKrKrasxHp3-IjdKNRnUQbAaJMJZ0kvaAWsX7lvrFYqsKrvphhdyYtlYrQHYjh0xmPqLMDIVlwrjod_fNS ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as madis...@princecastle.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Q91MOrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrpdI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo0c-l9QVSeG-TjUQVv1dnoplqsGMFzItl-dclR2laMEfoKJ6kbvrqjf_BPrItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3rOLF2SS0kJf5 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Qrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrodI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo09SeG-TjUQVv3rItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3uXQ5uvyA for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker documentation
Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
