Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

2016-04-14 Thread Robert Lauriston
I reviewed Acrobat 1.0 in 1993. I wonder if I have a copy around
somewhere? I know I ridiculed Adobe for thinking they could sell the
reader. At one point they were trying to get customers to use PDFs on
CD-ROMs and they wanted something like $7 for each disc that bundled
the reader.

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Klaus Daube  wrote:
>Cleaning out my personal archives, I stumbled across a pdf which I
>created from a site:
>http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/history/history01.htm
>
>The text has been moved to
>http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/history now, but it's the same:
>
>The history of PDF
>
>The first time Adobe actually talked about this technology was at a
>Seybold conference in San Jose in 1991. At that time, it was referred
>to as 'IPS' which stood for 'Interchange PostScript.'
>
>Version 1.0 of PDF was announced at Comdex Fall in 1992 where the
>technology won a 'best of Comdex' award. The tools to create and view
>PDF-files, Acrobat, were released in on 15 June 1993. This first
>version was of no use for the prepress community. It already featured
>internal links and bookmarks and fonts could be embedded but the only
>colour space supported was RGB.
>
>Watch the senence «Adobe asked a steep price for the tools to create
>PDF files. Acrobat Distiller was available in personal and network
>versions, priced at $695 and $2,495 respectively.»
>
>Hm, the older I grow the more I'm interested in history ...
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Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

2016-04-14 Thread Frank Stearns

On Thu, 14 Apr 2016, Craig, Alison wrote:


Wow - $695 in 1993!

That rivals the $700 I spent on HP's first laser printer at about 
the same time. (It printed in black at a whopping 300 dpi.)


Were we rich or stupid? ;-)


Both?? We could charge clients relatively more for services in those 
days?


In 1991 I spent well north of $10K for a bare-bones Sparc workstation, 
and thankfully got a courtesy copy of FM3 and then FM4 because of the 
development work we were doing. Our products gave an assist to the FM 
Sales force as prospective FM purchasers would ask, "that's all well 
and good, but does this Framing-Maker thingie do this or that?"


We tried to have "this" and "thats" on hand to help out. For nostalgia 
and amusement, visit the "FSA Resources>Early Products" portion of 
www.fsatools.com for more history.


Frank

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Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

2016-04-14 Thread Pat Christenson
Necessity is the mother of "finding the money somehow."

-Original Message-
From: Craig, Alison [mailto:acr...@bkultrasound.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 4:03 PM
To: Pat Christenson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

Wow - $695 in 1993!

That rivals the $700 I spent on HP's first laser printer at about the same 
time. (It printed in black at a whopping 300 dpi.)

Were we rich or stupid? ;-) 

Alison


Technical Documentation Specialist
BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com | bkultrasound.com


-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 1:57 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

Ouch. I remember buying the personal version.

Pat Christenson

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Klaus Daube
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 2:27 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

   Cleaning out my personal archives, I stumbled across a pdf which I
   created from a site:
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/history/history01.htm

   The text has been moved to
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/history now, but it's the same:

   The history of PDF

   The first time Adobe actually talked about this technology was at a
   Seybold conference in San Jose in 1991. At that time, it was referred
   to as 'IPS' which stood for 'Interchange PostScript.'

   Version 1.0 of PDF was announced at Comdex Fall in 1992 where the
   technology won a 'best of Comdex' award. The tools to create and view
   PDF-files, Acrobat, were released in on 15 June 1993. This first
   version was of no use for the prepress community. It already featured
   internal links and bookmarks and fonts could be embedded but the only
   colour space supported was RGB.

   Watch the senence «Adobe asked a steep price for the tools to create
   PDF files. Acrobat Distiller was available in personal and network
   versions, priced at $695 and $2,495 respectively.»

   Hm, the older I grow the more I'm interested in history ...

   Klaus

   ~~~
   ~~

   Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

   Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper

   F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch 
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Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

2016-04-14 Thread Craig, Alison
Wow - $695 in 1993!

That rivals the $700 I spent on HP's first laser printer at about the same 
time. (It printed in black at a whopping 300 dpi.)

Were we rich or stupid? ;-) 

Alison


Technical Documentation Specialist
BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com | bkultrasound.com


-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 1:57 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

Ouch. I remember buying the personal version.

Pat Christenson

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Klaus Daube
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 2:27 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

   Cleaning out my personal archives, I stumbled across a pdf which I
   created from a site:
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/history/history01.htm

   The text has been moved to
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/history now, but it's the same:

   The history of PDF

   The first time Adobe actually talked about this technology was at a
   Seybold conference in San Jose in 1991. At that time, it was referred
   to as 'IPS' which stood for 'Interchange PostScript.'

   Version 1.0 of PDF was announced at Comdex Fall in 1992 where the
   technology won a 'best of Comdex' award. The tools to create and view
   PDF-files, Acrobat, were released in on 15 June 1993. This first
   version was of no use for the prepress community. It already featured
   internal links and bookmarks and fonts could be embedded but the only
   colour space supported was RGB.

   Watch the senence «Adobe asked a steep price for the tools to create
   PDF files. Acrobat Distiller was available in personal and network
   versions, priced at $695 and $2,495 respectively.»

   Hm, the older I grow the more I'm interested in history ...

   Klaus

   ~~~
   ~~

   Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

   Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper

   F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch 
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Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

2016-04-14 Thread Pat Christenson
Ouch. I remember buying the personal version.

Pat Christenson

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Klaus Daube
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 2:27 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

   Cleaning out my personal archives, I stumbled across a pdf which I
   created from a site:
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/history/history01.htm

   The text has been moved to
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/history now, but it's the same:

   The history of PDF

   The first time Adobe actually talked about this technology was at a
   Seybold conference in San Jose in 1991. At that time, it was referred
   to as 'IPS' which stood for 'Interchange PostScript.'

   Version 1.0 of PDF was announced at Comdex Fall in 1992 where the
   technology won a 'best of Comdex' award. The tools to create and view
   PDF-files, Acrobat, were released in on 15 June 1993. This first
   version was of no use for the prepress community. It already featured
   internal links and bookmarks and fonts could be embedded but the only
   colour space supported was RGB.

   Watch the senence «Adobe asked a steep price for the tools to create
   PDF files. Acrobat Distiller was available in personal and network
   versions, priced at $695 and $2,495 respectively.»

   Hm, the older I grow the more I'm interested in history ...

   Klaus

   ~~~
   ~~

   Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

   Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper

   F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch
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[Framers] adding pages

2016-04-14 Thread William Saylor
This is probably a very simple problem but it is rather vexing. I have a
multi-chapter technical book with prefaces, TOC, chapter, appendices, index
and so forth. For some reason all of a sudden some of my chapters and
appendices will no longer automatically add pages as I add content. There is
no (desired) flow change, just fairly vanilla page and pagination and
auto-numbering throughout the book.

I use the "save as even pages" setting and that seems to work for the
various documents. Any ideas on what I am missing?
Thanks,
Bill



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[Framers] OT: The history of PDF

2016-04-14 Thread Klaus Daube
   Cleaning out my personal archives, I stumbled across a pdf which I
   created from a site:
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/history/history01.htm

   The text has been moved to
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/history now, but it's the same:

   The history of PDF

   The first time Adobe actually talked about this technology was at a
   Seybold conference in San Jose in 1991. At that time, it was referred
   to as 'IPS' which stood for 'Interchange PostScript.'

   Version 1.0 of PDF was announced at Comdex Fall in 1992 where the
   technology won a 'best of Comdex' award. The tools to create and view
   PDF-files, Acrobat, were released in on 15 June 1993. This first
   version was of no use for the prepress community. It already featured
   internal links and bookmarks and fonts could be embedded but the only
   colour space supported was RGB.

   Watch the senence «Adobe asked a steep price for the tools to create
   PDF files. Acrobat Distiller was available in personal and network
   versions, priced at $695 and $2,495 respectively.»

   Hm, the older I grow the more I'm interested in history ...

   Klaus

   ~~~
   ~~

   Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

   Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper

   F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch


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