Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore colour and scaling to menu icons

2017-03-18 Thread Klaus Daube 
Dear friends,
Looking into the blue sky in Central Switzerland I realised that we (including 
me) 
are anticipating the change of the rotating direction of the earth. 

IMHO the first obstacle for a simple handling of the size/colour-issue of icons 
is 
the distribution of the icons in various dlls: Most are in fmcustom.dll, 
fmdlg.dll, 
fmres.dll and owlres.dll - but many are also found together with their function 
code, 
for example in docbook.dll, mmFilter.dll etc.) 

If all icons would be concentrated in one dll, let's say named fmIcons_sscc.dll 
with 
ss indicating the size and cc indicating colour/mono, then it would be possible 
to 
map them simply into the standard fmIcons - even during the running FM session.

And if all the language dependent things (dialogues, but in particular the 
strings 
for the dialogues) would be stored in an analogous manner then it would become 
possible to switch UI language on the fly (as Dieter Gust from itl - and other 
consultants - request since years).
But I see that this will stay a whish for eternity: The situation is the same 
as with 
the icons: Most (old) dialogues are with their strings in fmdlg.dll etc., but 
much 
function code is also accompanied by language dependent strings (e.g. 
docbook.dll, 
find_references.dll, flashfilter.dll).

I see that the whole issue would result in a complete re-design of the 
application - 
as others have mentioned and even requested. IMHO only the switch to Unicode 
was of 
comparable complexity - and of course of much greater prestige than 'just 
adapting 
the UI'. 

The capability to switch language I have implemented in my ExtendScript 
project: 
Initially the langue is determined from the FM-installation (app.Language) and 
the 
appropriate strings are mapped/copied into the standard object:
   CloneObject (goTxt, goTxt_de); // map German
During the session this mapping can be changed. I have used this mechanism to 
check 
my translations (nearly 300 strings) and space requirements for en/de/fr.
There is a drop-down-list on a tab in a panel to select the language. At the 
next 
invocation of a panel it uses the appropriate strings (variable items are 
indicated 
by %nn). For the menu I have not figured out how to change it during the 
session - It 
needs to be rebuilt which normally is done on invocation of the script.

Klaus Daube
~~
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Re: [Framers] Anyone have any spiffy FM resume templates?

2017-03-18 Thread Carol J. Elkins 
No, attachments are VERY discouraged on this listserv. Too much 
chance for viruses and other bad things. So either post a link to 
where files reside or, as in the case of Lin's and Bodvar's examples, 
I will host them on FrameUsers.com.


Carol Elkins
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At 09:23 AM 3/18/2017, you wrote:
Guys, I'm not positive because I haven't tried it, but attachments 
may be permitted on emails. Craig and Lin, maybe try by posting the 
templates? Worst thing that would happen is they'd bounce back to 
you and then we'd all know.


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Re: [Framers] Anyone have any spiffy FM resume templates?

2017-03-18 Thread Art Campbell 
Guys, I'm not positive because I haven't tried it, but attachments may be
permitted on emails.

Craig and Lin, maybe try by posting the templates? Worst thing that would
happen is they'd bounce back to you and then we'd all know.

​Art​



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On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:

> I'd like a copy, just to look at and be potentially inspired by. I have a
> resume template that I set up for my wife (unstructured) and one I set up
> for me (structure). Both work pretty well for us.
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> I've put in a request to Carol to see if she'd be willing to host it on the
> Framers site. In all honesty, all I really did was take the two formats
> that Adobe created and melded them together to suit my tastes.
>
> If she's not able to host it, I'll continue to send it at request. :)
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Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to menu icons

2017-03-18 Thread Peter Gold 
document” setting. Done in the 2017 release. And so
> on. In total there are over 1,300 smaller and bigger changes in FrameMaker
> 2017 and most of them are based on feedback from the users.
>
>
>
> > One of the fundamental issues that have crippled FM development,
>
> > going back to the 1990s is it's original engineering architecture.
> > Over the years, it's been patched in many truly genius ways, to be
> > able to provide more and newer features. However, the more
> > complicated the patchwork has become, the more difficult it has
> > become to evolve.
>
>
>
> In the 2015 and 2017 releases a huge amount of work went into the core of
> the product. In Fm 2017 the font engine was completely reengineered (to
> make FrameMaker compatible with RTL languages (like Arabic, Farsi and
> Hebrew) and complex script languages (ike Thai). Today you can author
> virtually all languages in the world with FrameMaker. In the 2017 release a
> huge part of FrameMaker was reengineered to make FrameMaker’s user
> interface technology fit for the future. Beside this a lot of ground work
> in the code was done to set the foundation for future developments.
>
> Most of this is not visible to the end-user, but it was necessary ground
> work in the background that had to be done. In many aspects FrameMaker 2017
> is a much more modern product today “under the hood” and in many aspects
> the foundation is set for the future. It might not be “visible”, but we had
> to do this and you can be sure, that we will continue to make FrameMaker
> the best tool for technical writers.
>
>
>
> > Perhaps it's time, within Adobe, to give FM the world-class
> > recognition its earned over the decades, give it the development
> > budget it deserves, and retire the obsolete engineering model,
> > as well as the obsolete lame excuse.
>
>
>
> Oh yes! Believe me, everyone in the Adobe TechComm team would love to get
> a bigger budget. And we’re fighting for it everyday competing with other
> business units J
>
>
>
> But to be realistic … just look at every normal company. I guess more or
> less all of you have made this experience: How big is the budget of the
> marketing department? And how small is the budget of the tech comm
> department? Right. And guess what? Adobe has excellent tools for creatives
> and marketing … and excellent tools for TechComm. I guess you get the idea
> J
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Stefan Gentz*
>
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Anyone have any spiffy FM resume templates?

2017-03-18 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson 
Would you like to look at my version (FM10)? I got the idea from some FM
template and remodeled the document (not as template, though).
http://bodvar.is/Files/ResumeBB201311.pdf
http://bodvar.is/Files/ResumeBB201311.fm
It is in Icelandic. If anyone is interested but unsure how to use it I can
translate the basics.

Hope it helps.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson





On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 4:28 PM, FrameUsers Admin 
wrote:

> Frameusers, I've added Lin SIms' resume template to the FrameUsers.com
> site. You can find it here:
> http://www.frameusers.com/tasks/
>
> While you are there, look around the site. I believe you can find just
> about everything you'll need for Frame-related work. If you can't, please
> let me know off-list and we'll figure out how to add it to the site.
>
> Carol Elkins
> List Mom
>
> At 11:52 AM 3/15/2017, you wrote:
>
>> I've put in a request to Carol to see if she'd be willing to host it on
>> the Framers site. In all honesty, all I really did was take the two formats
>> that Adobe created and melded them together to suit my tastes.
>>
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Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to menu icons

2017-03-18 Thread Stefan Gentz 
ics. Done in the 2017 release. Others wanted to get several dialogs 
resizable. Done in the 2017 release. Others wanted to get the spelling checkers 
better and behave differently (not so “over-aggressive”). We updated them to 
the latest engines available on the market in the 2017 release and changed the 
behavior to match the writing process better. Others wanted to get a better 
overview in the conditional tags pod by seeing the colors of the conditions. 
Done in the 2017 release. Others wanted to get text tabs back in the designer 
pods and get rid of the icons. Done in the 2017 release. Others asked us to 
finally get rid of the old, wired console window and make it a pod. Guess what? 
Done in the 2017 release. Others strongly requested to make dynamic content 
feature available for DITA based in attributes. Done in the 2017 release. 
Several DITA authors asked us to show the current element position in bread 
crump like path. Done in the 2017 release. Others complained about several 
issues when authoring DITA (like the behavior when you click return in a list 
item). Done in the 2017 release. Others wanted to make us the HTML5 output 
Section 508 compliant. Done in the 2017 release. Or improve the way CSS are 
generated and managed. Done in the 2017 release. Others demanded support for 
high-dpi screens. Done in the 2017 release. Others wanted to have the setting 
for borders and text symbols a “global” setting and finally no longer a “by 
document” setting. Done in the 2017 release. And so on. In total there are over 
1,300 smaller and bigger changes in FrameMaker 2017 and most of them are based 
on feedback from the users.

> One of the fundamental issues that have crippled FM development,
> going back to the 1990s is it's original engineering architecture.
> Over the years, it's been patched in many truly genius ways, to be
> able to provide more and newer features. However, the more
> complicated the patchwork has become, the more difficult it has
> become to evolve.

In the 2015 and 2017 releases a huge amount of work went into the core of the 
product. In Fm 2017 the font engine was completely reengineered (to make 
FrameMaker compatible with RTL languages (like Arabic, Farsi and Hebrew) and 
complex script languages (ike Thai). Today you can author virtually all 
languages in the world with FrameMaker. In the 2017 release a huge part of 
FrameMaker was reengineered to make FrameMaker’s user interface technology fit 
for the future. Beside this a lot of ground work in the code was done to set 
the foundation for future developments.
Most of this is not visible to the end-user, but it was necessary ground work 
in the background that had to be done. In many aspects FrameMaker 2017 is a 
much more modern product today “under the hood” and in many aspects the 
foundation is set for the future. It might not be “visible”, but we had to do 
this and you can be sure, that we will continue to make FrameMaker the best 
tool for technical writers.

> Perhaps it's time, within Adobe, to give FM the world-class
> recognition its earned over the decades, give it the development
> budget it deserves, and retire the obsolete engineering model,
> as well as the obsolete lame excuse.

Oh yes! Believe me, everyone in the Adobe TechComm team would love to get a 
bigger budget. And we’re fighting for it everyday competing with other business 
units ☺

But to be realistic … just look at every normal company. I guess more or less 
all of you have made this experience: How big is the budget of the marketing 
department? And how small is the budget of the tech comm department? Right. And 
guess what? Adobe has excellent tools for creatives and marketing … and 
excellent tools for TechComm. I guess you get the idea ☺


Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist

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