Re: [Framers] Crash with Internal Errors: 13054, 21985197, 21967009, 21686210

[Lin Sims]

Corporate standard (and, I think, our CMS) requires use of SVGs, partially
because it lets people search for text in the graphic once the PDF is
created. Those of us not working in DITA embed graphics because (again)
it's a corporate standard based on the fact that we don't share files
across servers/directories, so referring to them is a non-starter.

Alison, that sounds like it's a "might work". I'll have to explore that.
Thanks!

And I just realized I forgot to provide what may be a very pertinent piece
of info. The crash ONLY happens when I'm saving the file as part of a "Save
all Files in Book" operation. None of the other files trigger this, and a
couple are even larger. One of my "workarounds" is to save the other files
first and then save the problem file. That will often work for a bit, but
it's a PITA not being able to use the book-based save all.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Craig, Alison 
wrote:

> Instead of simply removing the 18 files, save just the current FM file
> under another name then remove everything from the new file except the
> images.
>
> Then remove them from your working file.
>
> That way, the images will maintain their Conditions and you *should* just
> be able to copy each one back in to its repsective place, without any
> hassle (any *further* hassle?).
>
> FYI: I used to save Visio files to PDFs but now I save them to WMF.
> Neither format has ever caused any problems.
>
> Alison Craig
> Technical Documentation Specialist
> BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com
>
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound.com@lists.
> frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:02 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Crash with Internal Errors: 13054, 21985197,
> 21967009, 21686210
>
> Bernard: All of the graphics are SVGs, created by Visio 2013. Frame has the
> same habit of adding colors to the catalog with them, too. Not sure if the
> rename (of only Black!) has any bearing, but it struck me as odd so I
> mentioned it.
>
> Robert: Not sure if removing the graphics would help, since the crashes are
> intermittent and I sort of need them to refer to while working. :(
>
> I was thinking of maybe removing them until I have to create a review or
> release, but the idea taking out and putting back in 18 figures (with an
> assortment of conditions) is making me cringe.
>
> On the other hand, that might be the only recourse. Sometimes I miss FM8.
> 
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Robert Lauriston  >
> wrote:
>
> > What if you temporarily remove the 18 embedded figures?
> >
> > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Lin Sims  ljsims...@gmail.com%3e> wrote:
> > > Anyone know what these errors refer to? I have a file that frequently
> > > crashes Frame, and this was the latest series of internal errors it
> gave
> > me.
> > >
> > > I did do a MIF wash and noticed one odd thing: Frame has renamed the
> > color
> > > Black to fm_gen_## when I save to the MIF file. If I edit those
> > > definitions back to Black in the MIF file and resave as Frame, the
> > > definitions stay the same in the MIF file, but Frame once more renames
> > the
> > > color to fm_gen_## (different numbers this time). It also renames
> the
> > > color in one (but only one) of the condition tags it's used in.
> > >
> > > The file is a large one (18.4 Mb) and has 18 figures embedded in it
> (not
> > my
> > > choice, but there is no choice), several of which are affected by
> > > conditions, 16 tables, conditions galore (18), and loads of
> > > cross-references. It's been giving me fits for several months now, to
> the
> > > point where I literally created a new Frame file and copied and pasted
> > all
> > > the text as plain text and reformatted it, and reimported all the
> > graphics.
> > > It behaved for about 2 months and is now crashing all over again.
> > >
> > > I expect to be working with this set of files daily for the next 6
> months
> > > at least. I cannot afford to lose the time it takes to crash, recover,
> > > mif-wash, etc., etc., etc., that this is taking up.
> > >
> > > Suggestions gratefully (and exhaustedly) received.
> > >
> > > Pertinents:
> > >
> > > Windows 7, all patches applied
> > > FrameMaker 2015, latest patches applied
> > > Plugins: AutoText, TableCleaner (DLL, not script)
> > > 2 home-brewed scripts: save all files in book to selected MIF formats;
> > add
> > > Table Continuation variable to all tables in a file
> > >
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Re: [Framers] Crash with Internal Errors: 13054, 21985197, 21967009, 21686210

[Alan Houser]

Just to mention a possibility ... FrameMaker is rather intolerant of 
network latency. If you are saving to any sort of networked drive (even 
a Dropbox folder), try saving to a local drive.


I've had more than one client drastically reduce random FrameMaker 
crashes by moving from network to local file storage.


-Alan


On 5/18/17 7:55 AM, Lin Sims wrote:

Corporate standard (and, I think, our CMS) requires use of SVGs, partially
because it lets people search for text in the graphic once the PDF is
created. Those of us not working in DITA embed graphics because (again)
it's a corporate standard based on the fact that we don't share files
across servers/directories, so referring to them is a non-starter.

Alison, that sounds like it's a "might work". I'll have to explore that.
Thanks!

And I just realized I forgot to provide what may be a very pertinent piece
of info. The crash ONLY happens when I'm saving the file as part of a "Save
all Files in Book" operation. None of the other files trigger this, and a
couple are even larger. One of my "workarounds" is to save the other files
first and then save the problem file. That will often work for a bit, but
it's a PITA not being able to use the book-based save all.




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Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing
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[Framers] ANN: Impromptu Anti-Webinar: Using FrameSLT to Cleanup Structured Docs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

 

If you are using conversion tables to convert unstructured FrameMaker
documents to structured FrameMaker, you know that conversion tables only get
you part of the way to valid XML. Cleaning up the last 10-20% can be slow
and tedious. Enter FrameSLT, Russ Ward's ingenious FrameMaker plugin that
uses XPath and a simple, but powerful scripting language that can help
automate the cleanup of structured documents.

 

I am going to host a short webinar to introduce FrameSLT and how I used it
to solve a simple structured cleanup problem for a client. The webinar will
be at 2:00 pm EDT this afternoon. Please email me if you want to attend and
I will send you an invitation.

 

Remember, an anti-webinar means no sponsors, no boring slides, or
promotional fluff, just simple demonstrations from the trenches. Email me as
soon as possible and I will send you an invite. 

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] ANN: Impromptu Anti-Webinar: Using FrameSLT to Cleanup Structured Docs

[Bhavna Raghwani]

Hi Rick,

This sounds great. I would like to attend it.
Regards,
Bhavna

On 18-May-2017 19:44, "Rick Quatro"  wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> If you are using conversion tables to convert unstructured FrameMaker
> documents to structured FrameMaker, you know that conversion tables only
> get
> you part of the way to valid XML. Cleaning up the last 10-20% can be slow
> and tedious. Enter FrameSLT, Russ Ward's ingenious FrameMaker plugin that
> uses XPath and a simple, but powerful scripting language that can help
> automate the cleanup of structured documents.
>
>
>
> I am going to host a short webinar to introduce FrameSLT and how I used it
> to solve a simple structured cleanup problem for a client. The webinar will
> be at 2:00 pm EDT this afternoon. Please email me if you want to attend and
> I will send you an invitation.
>
>
>
> Remember, an anti-webinar means no sponsors, no boring slides, or
> promotional fluff, just simple demonstrations from the trenches. Email me
> as
> soon as possible and I will send you an invite.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
> 585-366-4017
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Framers] Is anyone using Documentum (or any other CMS) to share content between FM and Word?

[Art Campbell]

Content would, ideally, be unformatted so local formatting could be applied.

If so, any thoughts, tips, tricks, traps?

TIA,
Art

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Re: [Framers] Crash with Internal Errors: 13054, 21985197, 21967009, 21686210

[Lin Sims]

It happens on both, actually. The last 6 months or so I've been working on
my local drive because the network drive server is now remote instead of
on-site and the lag was really annoying. At least it wasn't bouncing.

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Alan Houser  wrote:

> Just to mention a possibility ... FrameMaker is rather intolerant of
> network latency. If you are saving to any sort of networked drive (even a
> Dropbox folder), try saving to a local drive.
>
> I've had more than one client drastically reduce random FrameMaker crashes
> by moving from network to local file storage.
>
> -Alan
>
>
> On 5/18/17 7:55 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
>
>> Corporate standard (and, I think, our CMS) requires use of SVGs, partially
>> because it lets people search for text in the graphic once the PDF is
>> created. Those of us not working in DITA embed graphics because (again)
>> it's a corporate standard based on the fact that we don't share files
>> across servers/directories, so referring to them is a non-starter.
>>
>> Alison, that sounds like it's a "might work". I'll have to explore that.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> And I just realized I forgot to provide what may be a very pertinent piece
>> of info. The crash ONLY happens when I'm saving the file as part of a
>> "Save
>> all Files in Book" operation. None of the other files trigger this, and a
>> couple are even larger. One of my "workarounds" is to save the other files
>> first and then save the problem file. That will often work for a bit, but
>> it's a PITA not being able to use the book-based save all.
>>
>> 
>>
>
> --
> Alan Houser
> Group Wellesley, Inc.
> Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing
> arh on Twitter
> 412-450-0532
>
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Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi Gillian,

You cannot use a graphic in the automatic numbering of your
list paragraph format. Pitty.
However, there are two other options:

o As others have suggested: Create a special list font with only a single 
character
  at the position of e.g. "n".
  This character should be your custom bullet.
  Then create a character format with this font.
  In your list paragraph format use n as your Autonumber and set your character
  format.

o On the reference pages create a graphic frame with your bullet.
  On the body pages create a paragraph format, e.g. bullet which uses this 
graphic frame
  as frame above.
  Set the Space below to e.g. -30 pt.
  Set the Next Pgf Tag to your list paragraph.
  In the list paragraph format set the space above to the same negative value, 
e.g. -30 pt.
  Give it a left indent, so that it starts at the right of the bullet.
  Now your second paragraph is pulled up to be to the right of the bullet 
paragraph.
  You will have to play with the space above/below values to get the two 
paragraphs aligned.
  And when you enter text in the list paragraph the text will be invisible 
first.
  The text will be printed or saved to PDF without any problem.
  To get it displayed on your monitor you must press CTRL+L.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet

Hi Gillian,

I don't have Frame available, so if I remember correctly (fingers crossed), 
here's how you can make a custom bullet:

Draw a Graphic Frame on the Reference Pages and if the art file size is small 
enough, I'd copy, not reference it into the frame. Name the Graphic Frame, for 
example, Custom Bullet.

Now here's the part I can't quite remember: in the Para Designer, I *think* 
your new Graphic Frame, Custom Bullet, will be in the Building Block list. 
Bring up the current bullet paragraph format, delete the bullet Building Block 
and put Custom Bullet in its place. Be sure to click on it from the Building 
Block list, don't type it in.

If you know they will never want the old bullet, you can do an Update All and 
not keep any overrides. If you're not sure, you can create a new para format 
with the Custom Bullet, and retag paragraphs as needed.

Then you'll have to play around with the placement/size of the art in the 
Graphic Frame, and tabs.

Hope this helps -

Louise



- Original Message -
From: gill6...@comcast.net
To: "framers" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:12:07 PM
Subject: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet

Frame Gurus!

Using:
Unstructured Frame
TCS 2017

Our marketing department wants us to use a customized bullet. It's more of a 
graphic, because it's not in the character palette. They use InDesign so they 
inserted it as a graphic. They want us to use it as a bullet in all of our 
bullet lists.

So how do I make a customized bullet list with a customzed graphic? The 
Character Designer does not allow for inserting a graphic to create a bullet. 
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Gillian



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Re: [Framers] ANN: Impromptu Anti-Webinar: Using FrameSLT to Cleanup Structured Docs

[Rick Quatro]

I will have some open slots for this webinar starting at 2:00 pm EDT, but I
want to make sure that those that responded get a spot. I am using
GoToMeeting, which as a 26 attendee limit. So as soon as the meeting starts
and those that responded join, I will post the meeting link on the list.
Feel free to join in!

 

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Re: [Framers] ANN: FrameSLT Anti-Webinar

[Rick Quatro]

 

FrameSLT Anti-Webinar

 

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