[Framers] XML Author - where has it gone?
I try to update my website concerning the History of FrameMaker and discover the following: - In FM-13 (2015) XML Author could be selected as interface flavour (similar to FrameMaker or Structured FrameMaker). - In FM-14 (2017) and FM-15 (2019) this option does not exist. - On https://www.adobe.com/search.html#q=xml%20author provides only results for the 2015 release. - "XML Documentation for Adobe Experience Manager" seems to be a new product, but IMHO this is not a successor of XML Author, since the web page tells about a component content management system (CCMS). So where has XML Author gone? Klaus Daube ~ Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] XML Author - where has it gone?
Discontinued. https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/discontinued-products.html On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Klaus Daube wrote: > I try to update my website concerning the History of FrameMaker and discover > the > following: > > - In FM-13 (2015) XML Author could be selected as interface flavour > (similar to FrameMaker or Structured FrameMaker). > - In FM-14 (2017) and FM-15 (2019) this option does not exist. > - On https://www.adobe.com/search.html#q=xml%20author provides only > results for the 2015 release. > - "XML Documentation for Adobe Experience Manager" seems to be a new > product, but IMHO this is not a successor of XML Author, since the > web page tells about a component content management system (CCMS). > > So where has XML Author gone? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] XML Author - where has it gone?
The problem with XML Author was that it was priced too high. It should have been $100 at the most; better at $50 or even free. It would have been a good "feeder" product for the full FrameMaker product. I don't remember the price, but I think it was around $400, which was too high for what was basically an XML editor. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 NEW! -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Klaus Daube Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:54 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] XML Author - where has it gone? I try to update my website concerning the History of FrameMaker and discover the following: - In FM-13 (2015) XML Author could be selected as interface flavour (similar to FrameMaker or Structured FrameMaker). - In FM-14 (2017) and FM-15 (2019) this option does not exist. - On https://www.adobe.com/search.html#q=xml%20author provides only results for the 2015 release. - "XML Documentation for Adobe Experience Manager" seems to be a new product, but IMHO this is not a successor of XML Author, since the web page tells about a component content management system (CCMS). So where has XML Author gone? Klaus Daube ~ Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 Issues and First Look
I don’t know if Adobe monitors this list, but the pdf issue, for me, also is a deal breaker. Seems absurd that they would take something that worked and “improve “ it so well that it now is pretty much useless. Tom Beiswenger Bucher Emhart Glass Horseheads, NY USA tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.comj > On Sep 2, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Harding, Dan wrote: > > The new PDF creation mechanism and its inflexibility is a complete dealbreaker for me. I need to be able to easily create my PDFs in different locations with different names on the fly. Having neither of those aspects settable at output time nor saved on a per-file basis is utterly dain bramaged. > > As much as I dislike the idiosyncrasies and instability of Frame 2017 over Frame 2012, I won't be proceeding with Frame 2019 until/unless the PDF functionality is fixed. > > I expect the scaling issues to be a comparatively easier fix. > > For now Frame 2019 is DOA (for me) and I'm sticking with Frame 2017. > > Dan Harding > Assistant Director, Information Technologies > > University of Illinois Tax School > College of ACES, Department of ACE > 114A Mumford Hall, MC-710 > 1301 West Gregory Drive > Urbana, IL 61801 > Phone: 217-333-0935 > Fax: 217-244-5933 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__TaxSchool.Illinois.edu&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ&m=t2LwHLnNQJ0Eo308QMQ9mt6k4hPTyD23EWOfLJ7oRUk&s=GqUGqzyGKImbAcxdsJYK0uzSiohohPxuo6lm-t6x404&e= > > -Original Message- > From: Framers On Behalf Of Oran Petersen > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:44 PM > To: Digest FrameMaker > Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 Issues and First Look > > TCS 2019 > I have purchased and installed this new version on two Win 10 computers, fully updated with version 1803. One is a Surface Book with a native resolution of 3000 x 2000. The other is a Surface Pro 3 with a native resolution of 2160 x 1440. Both have a 2nd monitor of 1920 x 1080. This is now a 64 bit program. > > *The initial download from Adobe failed, showing complete when in reality it did not complete, making it impossible to install. An Adobe tech did a “back door” alternate process to fix that, and was helpful with the download and install. > > Thoughts and issues so far for FrameMaker 2019 include: > The display scaling is broken. The main high-res monitor is great, with 200% text scaling on the Book and 150% on the Pro 3. But when you move the window to the 2nd monitor it does not rescale, making the text, menus, etc. huge. All other apps, including Frame 2017 work as expected. This makes Frame 2019 almost unusable on the 2nd monitor, or imagine, on any lower res monitor. 1080 is not the newest, but is not old either. It is awful at even the lowest text display setting of 100%. Frame 2017 had some display issues, but the scaling worked fine. > > The PDF engine is a complete remake. The TCS uses Acrobat 2017, the latest version. The processing no longer uses the distiller. It is all internal. Frame “Save As” PDF does not allow you to choose your file name or storage location. The location must be set first in the Publish pod and is not held on a file basis. Frame Print Setup does allow you to choose an output folder, but the Publish output setting overrides it, so I see no value there. The only purpose for the distiller now seems to be to process postscript files to a PDF. Making a PDF in Word, Excel, etc. does allow choices for name, location, etc. > > You must set the Win 10 file associations to use Acrobat 2017 as a default for the PDF extension. If you don’t, you get nothing; no file, no error message. This may be the issue for Susan Corcoran on her Thursday post of blank PDF. > > So, overall, settings and management and creation of PDF with Frame 2019 needs work. Lots of it. Very confusing and convoluted with lots of broken code and different places to set things, some of which do not work. They did not get the interface between PDF in and out of Frame correct. Settings often do not “take” because they are stepped on by the Publish function. > > The color management is now totally automatic. There is no choice of RGB or CMYK anywhere. Evidently the new engine determines the color model for each graphic and uses it for processing. This is an improvement if it works. This was another of Susan's issues. > > So the fixes needed include: > *Display scaling across monitors with different resolution. (High Priority) *Save As PDF needs to work as it did in Frame 2017. Publish functions should be an alternative, not a requirement. The Frame settings should have priority and not default to the Publish Pod settings. > > As a workaround right now, most of us will probably use the Publish pod for everything. A real pain. > -Choose the Source Document > -Choose the output type (PDF) > -Create or Choose a settings file that is what you want -Choose an Output Folder -Hit the “Generate selected Output” Icon in the pod -Hit the “View Out
[Framers] Frame 2019 Bug & Staus Update
Frame 2019 Bugs & Status This is an update to my post of August 29. I have filed 4 bugs with Adobe on the new Frame. I have the TCS 2019 package. Save-As PDF: (Adobe Frame Bug #5251) Hooked to the new Publish function, unless someone can find a setting or button to make it work as it did in earlier Frame versions. Not practical for those that just wish to pop out a quick PDF like we could do in earlier versions. It is even worse than I thought, because the Publish function creates a folder of the file name (without extension) AND creates a PDF folder inside that one. Two more layers. You also get the file name with a .pdf extension inside the PDF folder, with no opportunity to pick a name. This might be necessary to publish any number of the 7 outputs with one button push, but Publish and Save-As PDF need to be totally disconnected for most of our process flows. Right now most Frame print settings are ignored, and default to the Publisher settings. Frame warns you of this with an intercept dialog, but seemingly does not allow you to change it. There is a "Use Distiller" check box in the Publish settings, but it does not work. I now try to "Print" with Adobe PDF set as the default printer. This escapes the Publish crap, but you still have to choose the folder and make sure the Print to Postscript is unchecked. You can change the file name as well. Except, on several occasions the print bypassed the Save-As choice and went straight to PDF. You then figure out which folder. Seems to be the Windows focused folder at the time. Messing with the Print Settings in the Print window seems to re-focus it to bring back the Save-As. Weird. The distiller is not used for this operation. It is all inside Frame and Acrobat 2017. Even non-Adobe apps are done without the distiller. Save-As PDF: (Adobe Frame Bug #5253) Frame Freeze! When the progress bar (new in 2019) hits 100% it just stops, forever, unless you use the task manager to kill Frame. I have found no other way to break out of this. Has now happened at least 5 times. It seems to work the 2nd time OK. Not sure of the trigger. Only seems to happen with Save-As PDF. No problem with this for the other print functions so far. No error message, no "Not Responding" indicator, no crash. Frame Window sizing across dual monitors with different resolution: (Adobe Frame Bug #5252) Frame finally got this fixed in Frame 2017 and now it is broken again in Frame 2019. This is a real pain when you use two monitors with significantly different resolutions, which I do. I found that by making the lower res monitor the "Main Display" that the Frame window text, etc. is OK on the lower res unit, but goes tiny if you move the window to the high res monitor. This means you cannot put dialog boxes on the high res monitor because they are not legible with the small font. Dual monitor use is now not an option with my setup for Frame authoring. "Go To Next" triangle (pointer) on the Frame window footer is inoperative/missing: (Adobe Frame Bug #5254). When on the First or Last page you see the small version of the triangle, but it does not work. When on other than First or Last, the triangle is simply gone. Page Down key is your alternative, or use the "Go To Page" dialog. I am very close to remaining with Frame 2017 until this stuff gets fixed. The file management & processing for PDF is just too messy. And I need the displays to work as they did in the 2017 version as well. If anyone has found fixes, workarounds or settings to help with this stuff, please let me know. I have been a Frame user, and Frame expert in a large company, since the beginning, 1980’s until recent retirement. I should know better than to take on a new version out of the gate. I was a beta tester in earlier days, so I have seen all of the new version disasters and more. Oran Petersen ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
