Re: [Framers] Graphics quality

[Robert Lauriston]

What format image and which version of FrameMaker?

If you're displaying EPS, you're not looking at the same image.
FrameMaker's showing a preview bitmap stored in the EPS file and PDF
is rendering the actual vectors.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:20 PM Doug  wrote:
>
> I'm comparing how an image looks on the same monitor when displayed by
> Frame and in PDF produced from Frame.  In all cases the image looks better
> when displayed in PDF.  It doesn't matter what quality the image is; Frame
> just seems to display images poorly in comparison.
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Re: [Framers] Graphics quality

[Doug]

I'm comparing how an image looks on the same monitor when displayed by
Frame and in PDF produced from Frame.  In all cases the image looks better
when displayed in PDF.  It doesn't matter what quality the image is; Frame
just seems to display images poorly in comparison.
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Re: [Framers] Graphics quality

[Robert Lauriston]

Rather than "set your desktop resolution to the highest it can
support" I'd say set your display to its native resolution.

I don't believe LCD ClearType / font-smoothing settings have any
effect on what's captured.

To me, the most important tips are (1) selecting or cropping to show
only pertinent screen elements and (2) resampling only when it's
absolutely unavoidable.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:12 AM David Artman  wrote:
>
>All the recent image-related posts lead me to write up this:
> ... 
> http://davidartman.com/design/best-practices-for-graphics-in-modern-publishing-pipelines
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Re: [Framers] Graphics quality

[David Artman]

   All the recent image-related posts lead me to write up this:

   [1]http://davidartman.com/design/best-practices-for-graphics-in-modern-
   publishing-pipelines

   HTH;

   David

References

   1. 
http://davidartman.com/design/best-practices-for-graphics-in-modern-publishing-pipelines
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Re: [Framers] HTML

[Robert Lauriston]

Save as HTML was never good for much. With FrameMaker 6 through 11, if
you wanted professional-looking HTML output, you used WebWorks,
RoboHelp, or MIF2Go.

>From FrameMaker 12 on, you can use the built-in subset of RoboHelp
features ("multichannel publishing"), though WebWorks ePublisher has
some advantages.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 8:55 AM H Santoro  wrote:
>
> Let me see if I'm doing this right!
>
> The 'Save As HTML' is somewhat deprecated and clunky.  It has some uses,
> but it is not able to produce a slick output.  Trying the options in the
> Publish pod is a better bet.ive questions to listad...@frameusers.com
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Re: [Framers] Graphics quality

[Robert Lauriston]

Not always for better performance, sometimes just because FrameMaker
can't render the format on screen.

E.g. for EPS vector graphics FrameMaker uses the embedded preview bitmap.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:34 AM Jeff Coatsworth
 wrote:
>
> Depending on the image format, FM often sacrifices quality on the screen for 
> better performance. Sometimes you just get placeholders or times, low-res 
> thumbnails.
>
>
> 
> From: Framers 
>  on 
> behalf of Doug 
> Sent: September 27, 2018 2:26 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: [Framers] Graphics quality
>
> Line drawings in Frame look much worse than they do when I save them to
> PDF. ...
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Re: [Framers] HTML

[H Santoro]

Let me see if I'm doing this right!

The 'Save As HTML' is somewhat deprecated and clunky.  It has some uses,
but it is not able to produce a slick output.  Trying the options in the
Publish pod is a better bet.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:37 AM Doug  wrote:

> Frame 2017.  I had been trying Save As > HTML, I'll try File > Publish
> now.  Thanks!
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Yves Barbion 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Doug
> >
> > I've generated this webhelp from unstructured FrameMaker:
> >
> > www.flowtime.be/samples/enfocus_pitstop_webhelp/
> > Multivolume/Output/wwhelp.htm
> >
> > Generated with WebWorks ePublisher.
> >
> > I don't know which version of FrameMaker you're using, but the latest
> > versions have their own built-in (RoboHelp-based) publishing feature.
> Just
> > choose File > Publish and select your preferred format, for example
> > responsive HTML5.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Yves
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 17:25, Doug  wrote:
> >
> > > I've been making PDFs using Frame unstructured, but now I'm facing the
> > > challenge of adding HTML output to my list of tasks.  I'm familiar with
> > > HTML, but making it from Frame is something I've not done before.
> > >
> > > Can someone point me to online examples of user guides that have been
> > > converted to HTML?  I'd like to get an idea of what's possible making
> > HTML
> > > from Frame.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Doug
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Re: [Framers] HTML

[Doug]

Frame 2017.  I had been trying Save As > HTML, I'll try File > Publish
now.  Thanks!

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Yves Barbion 
wrote:

> Hi Doug
>
> I've generated this webhelp from unstructured FrameMaker:
>
> www.flowtime.be/samples/enfocus_pitstop_webhelp/
> Multivolume/Output/wwhelp.htm
>
> Generated with WebWorks ePublisher.
>
> I don't know which version of FrameMaker you're using, but the latest
> versions have their own built-in (RoboHelp-based) publishing feature. Just
> choose File > Publish and select your preferred format, for example
> responsive HTML5.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Yves
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 17:25, Doug  wrote:
>
> > I've been making PDFs using Frame unstructured, but now I'm facing the
> > challenge of adding HTML output to my list of tasks.  I'm familiar with
> > HTML, but making it from Frame is something I've not done before.
> >
> > Can someone point me to online examples of user guides that have been
> > converted to HTML?  I'd like to get an idea of what's possible making
> HTML
> > from Frame.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug
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Re: [Framers] HTML

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Doug

I've generated this webhelp from unstructured FrameMaker:

www.flowtime.be/samples/enfocus_pitstop_webhelp/Multivolume/Output/wwhelp.htm

Generated with WebWorks ePublisher.

I don't know which version of FrameMaker you're using, but the latest
versions have their own built-in (RoboHelp-based) publishing feature. Just
choose File > Publish and select your preferred format, for example
responsive HTML5.

Kind regards

Yves


On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 17:25, Doug  wrote:

> I've been making PDFs using Frame unstructured, but now I'm facing the
> challenge of adding HTML output to my list of tasks.  I'm familiar with
> HTML, but making it from Frame is something I've not done before.
>
> Can someone point me to online examples of user guides that have been
> converted to HTML?  I'd like to get an idea of what's possible making HTML
> from Frame.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
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Re: [Framers] Print to PDF w/ FM12 and Windows 10

[Lin Sims]

I just got an email from Amitoj Singh at Adobe that they will be releasing
an update next week or the week after, and he's hoping it will contain a
fix for the issue.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:46 AM Jeff Coatsworth <
jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com> wrote:

> For the majority of cases, yes the 1803 Update is safe - Linda's got a bug
> logged with Adobe (
>
> Adobe Tracker:  FRMAKER-5286 https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5286)
> about SVG images.
>
>
>
> 
> From: Framers  jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of
> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 
> Sent: September 27, 2018 11:26 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Print to PDF w/ FM12 and Windows 10
>
> OK,
>
>
>
> I have held off all updates to my Windows 10 system ever since the snafu w/
> FM and the inability to print to PDF as a result. Does anyone know/can
> confirm that this "feature" has been resolved w/ the updates? If I take
> updates now, are the cumulative so that hopefully, I get the fix included?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
>
>
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[Framers] HTML

[Doug]

I've been making PDFs using Frame unstructured, but now I'm facing the
challenge of adding HTML output to my list of tasks.  I'm familiar with
HTML, but making it from Frame is something I've not done before.

Can someone point me to online examples of user guides that have been
converted to HTML?  I'd like to get an idea of what's possible making HTML
from Frame.

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Print to PDF w/ FM12 and Windows 10

[Lin Sims]

FYI, I'm unsure if this is actually a FrameMaker problem or a problem with
how Visio saves out to SVG or a problem with the Windows 10 OS.

Our workflow is:

1. Paste a JPG into Visio
2. Add some text
3. Save the result out to SVG
4. Import into FrameMaker
5. Save as PDF (or Print with Adobe PDF as the printer)

If we do this on a Windows 7 machine, there's no issue.
If we do this on a Windows 10 machine, Frame locks up and no PDf is
created. Sometimes a .tps is created, sometimes not.

I've an ongoing discussion with someone at Adobe. There was a gap of a few
days, but I just sent them a Visio file and the generated SVG for them to
test with. Guaranteed failure, so maybe it'll help them figure out what's
going on.



On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:50 PM  wrote:

> Thank you!
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
>  On
> Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:46 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Print to PDF w/ FM12 and Windows 10
>
> For the majority of cases, yes the 1803 Update is safe - Linda's got a bug
> logged with Adobe (
>
> Adobe Tracker:  FRMAKER-5286 https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5286
> )
> about SVG images.
>
>
>
> 
> From: Framers
>  on
> behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 
> Sent: September 27, 2018 11:26 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Print to PDF w/ FM12 and Windows 10
>
> OK,
>
>
>
> I have held off all updates to my Windows 10 system ever since the snafu w/
> FM and the inability to print to PDF as a result. Does anyone know/can
> confirm that this "feature" has been resolved w/ the updates? If I take
> updates now, are the cumulative so that hopefully, I get the fix included?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
>
>
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