Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread quills
Still, this is a known “feature” of Microsoft Windows. It always has been. The 
issue of fonts and PostScript printer instances have always been iffy with 
Microsoft.

> On Apr 10, 2019, at 13:55, Mike Wickham  wrote:
> 
> Rick,
> 
> As far as I know, that warning message can't be turned off. It is FrameMaker 
> warning you that changing printer drivers may cause your document to 
> reformat. Most people think that changing the print driver just changes where 
> the document will print, but it does more than that. The characteristics of 
> the driver also determine how the document will display on screen. Usually, 
> this makes little difference, maybe not even a noticeable difference. But, 
> sometimes, as you have seen, it changes the word- or line-breaks and can 
> cause an extra line of text to appear in a paragraph, bump the last line of a 
> table to the next page, or force a graphic to the next column or page. This 
> can throw off the appearance of pages, rippling all the way forward. And if 
> you are preparing for a press printed book, it can, for example, cause the 
> need to print 17 pages, when the signature (the folded stack of pages that 
> will be sewn into a book) is only 16 pages.
> 
> This is why it became best practice to use SetPrint to automatically set 
> AdobePDF as the default printer for FM when it loads. What you then see on 
> screen will always be exactly what you see in the PDF and, then, the PDF will 
> always be exactly what you see on _any_ printer or on _any_ other computer 
> screen. Then, of course, you would print the PDF, rather than the .fm file, 
> to your printer.
> 
> If you don't want to use SetPrint, you might see if your desktop printer has 
> an option to download fonts, instead of using internal fonts. This is a 
> little slower, because it means that the printer must retrieve the fonts from 
> your computer, rather than using whatever version of them it has hardwired, 
> but I _think_ it might help with the reformatting.
> 
> Mike
> 
>> On 4/9/2019 2:46 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> Hi Framers,
>> 
>> When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to
>> Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message:
>> 
>> "The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect
>> the format and output of your document(s)."
>> 
>> Most of the time this doesn't matter, but I do occasionally get different
>> line breaks even when I am just using Arial in my document. When the PDF is
>> done, the line breaks in the FrameMaker file change back to the way they
>> were as the printer driver is changed back to my default. Is there a good
>> solution that will prevent this from happening?
>> 
>>  
>> I have tried unchecking the "Rely in system fonts only; do not use document
>> fonts" checkbox, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks in
>> advance.
>> 
>>  
>> Rick
>> 
>>  
>> Rick Quatro
>> 
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> 
>> r...@frameexpert.com
>> 
>> 585-729-6746
>> 
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Re: [Framers] Formatting source code snippets

2019-04-10 Thread David Artman
Just to qualify my suggestion: I only would use one P format. Let the code's 
inherent indent standard handle the indents. (Maybe clean a few, or even apply 
my own manually if the page width is an issue.)Good for conversion to DITA; AND 
keeps me out of the tab v spaces war.;-)David[DCA:d.a.d.]
 Original message From: tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com Date: 
4/10/19  15:38  (GMT-05:00) To: "'An email list for people using Adobe 
FrameMaker software.'"  Subject: Re: [Framers] 
Formatting source code snippets Ditto to what everyone has said about tab 
stops. I have a client set that uses code heavily and I have created paragraph 
tags called CodeNoIndent, CodeIndentLev1, CodeIndentLev2, etc. that reflect the 
level of indentation and have tab stops set accordingly, and then I use a 
Monospace Font.HTH,TVBTammy Van BoeningTammy dot vanboening at 
spectrumwritingllc dot comwww.spectrumwritingllc.com-Original 
Message-From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of David ArtmanSent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:47 AMTo: An email list for people 
using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: 
[Framers] Formatting source code snippetsTabs is the way to go, imo, because 
the code you'll be copying and pasting is either tab indented or space 
indented, and so it's preserved.As for typeface, I recommend choosing one that 
clearly distinguishes 1, l, O, 0, and other potentially ambiguous glyphs. For 
instance, I won't use a typeface for code (or user input) that does not have a 
slash or dot in the zero and serifs on lowercase 
L.HTH,David[DCA:d.a.d.] Original message From: Reng Winfried 
 Date: 4/9/19  02:39  (GMT-05:00) To: "An email 
list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." 
 Subject: Re: [Framers] Formatting source code 
snippets Hi Peter,When I have to document our API like software, I have several 
tab stops set in the paragraph designer.Then I just enter as many tabs in the 
text to have the wanted indentation. This way I can more easily copy and paste 
code samples.Yes, and I also have a monospaced font (Courier, but e.g. 
Microsoft Consolas is equally good).That's just my approach. Others might have 
better procedures.Best regardsWinfried-Original Message-From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Peter KellySent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:02 AMTo: 
framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: [Framers] Formatting source code 
snippetsHi everyone,I have seen variations of this topic in the archives  
dating from 2007. I was wondering what strategies FrameMaker 2019 users employ 
to reproduce code snippets in API reference guides and the like. I used to 
format each indentation with a different style and also used to just copy and 
paste into a monotype style to preserve the formatting without having to 
re-create it in Frame. Any suggestions or better work methods are much 
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Re: [Framers] Formatting source code snippets

2019-04-10 Thread tammyvb
Ditto to what everyone has said about tab stops. I have a client set that uses 
code heavily and I have created paragraph tags called CodeNoIndent, 
CodeIndentLev1, CodeIndentLev2, etc. that reflect the level of indentation and 
have tab stops set accordingly, and then I use a Monospace Font.

HTH,

TVB

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www.spectrumwritingllc.com

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of David Artman
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:47 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Formatting source code snippets

Tabs is the way to go, imo, because the code you'll be copying and pasting is 
either tab indented or space indented, and so it's preserved.As for typeface, I 
recommend choosing one that clearly distinguishes 1, l, O, 0, and other 
potentially ambiguous glyphs. For instance, I won't use a typeface for code (or 
user input) that does not have a slash or dot in the zero and serifs on 
lowercase L.HTH,David[DCA:d.a.d.]
 Original message From: Reng Winfried 
 Date: 4/9/19  02:39  (GMT-05:00) To: "An email 
list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." 
 Subject: Re: [Framers] Formatting source code 
snippets Hi Peter,When I have to document our API like software, I have several 
tab stops set in the paragraph designer.Then I just enter as many tabs in the 
text to have the wanted indentation. This way I can more easily copy and paste 
code samples.Yes, and I also have a monospaced font (Courier, but e.g. 
Microsoft Consolas is equally good).That's just my approach. Others might have 
better procedures.Best regardsWinfried-Original Message-From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Peter KellySent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:02 AMTo: 
framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: [Framers] Formatting source code 
snippetsHi everyone,I have seen variations of this topic in the archives
  dating from 2007. I was wondering what strategies FrameMaker 2019 users 
employ to reproduce code snippets in API reference guides and the like. I used 
to format each indentation with a different style and also used to just copy 
and paste into a monotype style to preserve the formatting without having to 
re-create it in Frame. Any suggestions or better work methods are much 
appreciated.Best,Peter___This 
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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread Mike Wickham

Rick,

As far as I know, that warning message can't be turned off. It is 
FrameMaker warning you that changing printer drivers may cause your 
document to reformat. Most people think that changing the print driver 
just changes where the document will print, but it does more than that. 
The characteristics of the driver also determine how the document will 
display on screen. Usually, this makes little difference, maybe not even 
a noticeable difference. But, sometimes, as you have seen, it changes 
the word- or line-breaks and can cause an extra line of text to appear 
in a paragraph, bump the last line of a table to the next page, or force 
a graphic to the next column or page. This can throw off the appearance 
of pages, rippling all the way forward. And if you are preparing for a 
press printed book, it can, for example, cause the need to print 17 
pages, when the signature (the folded stack of pages that will be sewn 
into a book) is only 16 pages.


This is why it became best practice to use SetPrint to automatically set 
AdobePDF as the default printer for FM when it loads. What you then see 
on screen will always be exactly what you see in the PDF and, then, the 
PDF will always be exactly what you see on _any_ printer or on _any_ 
other computer screen. Then, of course, you would print the PDF, rather 
than the .fm file, to your printer.


If you don't want to use SetPrint, you might see if your desktop printer 
has an option to download fonts, instead of using internal fonts. This 
is a little slower, because it means that the printer must retrieve the 
fonts from your computer, rather than using whatever version of them it 
has hardwired, but I _think_ it might help with the reformatting.


Mike

On 4/9/2019 2:46 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Framers,

When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to
Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message:

"The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect
the format and output of your document(s)."

Most of the time this doesn't matter, but I do occasionally get different
line breaks even when I am just using Arial in my document. When the PDF is
done, the line breaks in the FrameMaker file change back to the way they
were as the printer driver is changed back to my default. Is there a good
solution that will prevent this from happening?

  


I have tried unchecking the "Rely in system fonts only; do not use document
fonts" checkbox, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks in
advance.

  


Rick

  


Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-729-6746

www.frameexpert.com/store/

  

  

  

  

  


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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread Fred Ridder
I would have sworn that at some point (maybe around version 9??) FrameMaker was 
improved to allow you to set a "local" default printer that was independent 
from the Windows printer selection. Did I completely hallucinate that? I have a 
pretty clear memory that after some point I no longer installed the setprint 
plugin with updated versions of FramMaker and never saw the infamous "printer 
metrics have changed" message when making a PDF.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of quills 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 7:21 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

I believe you are correct. The system will use the whichever printer instance 
is the default. Save As PDF is the least reliable way to do this. The 
setprint.dll works very well and let’s us print with a certain level of 
confidence.

> On Apr 9, 2019, at 17:59, Carol J. Elkins  wrote:
>
> Ditto what Tammy said. That's how I've done it for the past forever.
>
> Carol
>
> At 03:07 PM 4/9/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:
>> Rick,
>>
>> Can you have the AdobePDF printer set as the default printer when using FM?
>> The Sundorne SetPrint utility
>> does this automatically for you.

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Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.

2019-04-10 Thread Richard Melanson
First, let me belatedly thank Everyone for the great responses to my question 
below. I had almost forgotten just how good this list is. 

As I am the only Tech Writer where I work, I am swamped and have not been able 
to get to this conversion. I would like to give my boss an idea of what it 
would cost to get this outsourced. Anyone want to give me a dollar figure they 
would want to do this. 

Thanks again Everyone. 

Rick


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Subject: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.

Hi Everyone, 

I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into FrameMaker. Is 
there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees is the way to go. 

I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and anything 
else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame for about 6 or 7 
years so I have some catching up to do. My company just purchased the Adobe 
Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, and want me to move ALL the Word 
stuff, starting with one of the biggest docs. 

I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back up to using 
Frame again. 

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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread Harding, Dan


Just to summarize, as I think some people are confused by references to 
application versus operating system:

Running setprint with 32-bit FrameMaker on 32-bit Windows: works
Running setprint with 32-bit FrameMaker on 64-bit Windows: works
Running setprint with 64-bit FrameMaker on 64-bit Windows: does not work
Running setprint with 64-bit FrameMaker on 32-bit Windows: not possible to 
install 64-bit FrameMaker on 32-bit Windows (as far as I know)
 
-Dan

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of quills
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:37 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

 No. SetPrint will work on a 64-bit system running a 32-bit version of 
FrameMaker. We do.

> On Apr 10, 2019, at 09:23, Carol J. Elkins  wrote:
> 
> Ah, I wasn't sure how to check that. I Googled and learned that a program 
> running 32-bit should show that on Task Manager. Since there was no *32 
> showing for Framemaker, I decided it was 64-bit. So, perhaps newer 64-bit 
> versions of Frame can't use the SetPrint plugin. Which brings you back to the 
> place that you started. Bummer!
> 
> Carol
> 
> At 08:17 AM 4/10/2019, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Framers 
>>  On Behalf 
>> Of Carol J. Elkins
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM
>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
>> 
>> I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint 
>> plugin is running fine.
>> 
>> Carol
>> 
>> At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote:
>> >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable 
>> >if you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit 
>> >FrameMaker.
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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread quills
 No. SetPrint will work on a 64-bit system running a 32-bit version of 
FrameMaker. We do.

> On Apr 10, 2019, at 09:23, Carol J. Elkins  wrote:
> 
> Ah, I wasn't sure how to check that. I Googled and learned that a program 
> running 32-bit should show that on Task Manager. Since there was no *32 
> showing for Framemaker, I decided it was 64-bit. So, perhaps newer 64-bit 
> versions of Frame can't use the SetPrint plugin. Which brings you back to the 
> place that you started. Bummer!
> 
> Carol
> 
> At 08:17 AM 4/10/2019, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Framers  On
>> Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM
>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
>> 
>> I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is
>> running fine.
>> 
>> Carol
>> 
>> At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote:
>> >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if
>> >you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit
>> >FrameMaker.
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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Carol,

None of the plugins originally compiled for 32-bit FrameMaker (2017 and
below) will run on the 64-bit version of FrameMaker 2019. When you use Save
As PDF, you don't really need SetPrint anyway because FrameMaker
automatically switches to the Adobe PDF printer in the background. I am
trying to have the best of both worlds: I want to be able to print to my
Brother printer from FrameMaker and also Save As PDF without FrameMaker
recomposing my document. I don't want to have to set FrameMaker to use the
Adobe PDF Printer make a PDF before printing my document. But that may be
what I have to do.

Thanks to everyone that replied.

Rick

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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:23 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
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FrameMaker software.' 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

Ah, I wasn't sure how to check that. I Googled and learned that a program
running 32-bit should show that on Task Manager. Since there was no *32
showing for Framemaker, I decided it was 64-bit. So, perhaps newer 64-bit
versions of Frame can't use the SetPrint plugin. 
Which brings you back to the place that you started. Bummer!

Carol

At 08:17 AM 4/10/2019, Rick Quatro wrote:
>FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Framers 
> On Behalf Of 
>Carol J. Elkins
>Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
>
>I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin 
>is running fine.
>
>Carol
>
>At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote:
> >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable 
> >if you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit 
> >FrameMaker.

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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread Tom Beiswenger
I just installed SetPrint on FM12 running on a 64 bit system. Works like a 
charm!


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From: "Rick Quatro" 
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Date: 04/10/2019 10:18AM
Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7.

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is
running fine.

Carol

At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote:
>One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if 
>you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit 
>FrameMaker.

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Re: [Framers] TOC pane in responsive HTML

2019-04-10 Thread Caroline Tabach
Hi
this is the answer for 2017, I presume it is the same for 2019
You need to edit the settings file.
Choose Edit then
Click the Style mappings tab
Under general settings
"Add all Topics to Table of contents" should be selected.
then in "Topic Name pattern" you should choose  <$paratext>

I think it is not possible to send  a screen cap to the group, let me know
if you want a screen cap offline, or any more details

Caroline


On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:42 PM Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’m not so into HTML publishing - can someone explain how to get titles in
> the TOC pane of the responsive HTML 5 output, in stead of the file names?
>
> FM2019.
>
> (found this old thread but the links don’t work anymore : Re: [Framers]
> Publish Newbie - TOC pane in responsive HTML <
> https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=framers@lists.frameusers.com&q=subject:%22Re%5C%3A+%5C%5BFramers%5C%5D+Publish+Newbie+%5C-+TOC+pane+in+responsive+HTML%22&o=newest
> >)
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Ah, I wasn't sure how to check that. I Googled and learned that a 
program running 32-bit should show that on Task Manager. Since there 
was no *32 showing for Framemaker, I decided it was 64-bit. So, 
perhaps newer 64-bit versions of Frame can't use the SetPrint plugin. 
Which brings you back to the place that you started. Bummer!


Carol

At 08:17 AM 4/10/2019, Rick Quatro wrote:

FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7.

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is
running fine.

Carol

At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote:
>One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if
>you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit
>FrameMaker.


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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread Rick Quatro
FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7.

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is
running fine.

Carol

At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote:
>One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if 
>you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit 
>FrameMaker.

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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

2019-04-10 Thread Carol J. Elkins
I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint 
plugin is running fine.


Carol

At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable 
if you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit 
FrameMaker.


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[Framers] TOC pane in responsive HTML

2019-04-10 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi,

I’m not so into HTML publishing - can someone explain how to get titles in the 
TOC pane of the responsive HTML 5 output, in stead of the file names?

FM2019.

(found this old thread but the links don’t work anymore : Re: [Framers] Publish 
Newbie - TOC pane in responsive HTML 
)

Thanks,


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Wim Hooghwinkel


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