Re: [Framers] Mixed DTDs in a single book
On 7/25/2019 3:24 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: I have a book file that has two types of documents in it, each based on a different DTD and structured application. Each structured application calls a different XSLT stylesheet. Is there a way to save the book to XML and have FrameMaker use the correct struct apps for each file? Otherwise, maybe I combine the DTDs and stylesheets and use a single structured application? Suggestions are appreciated. Rick, You'll need to provide a good deal more information to get concrete suggestions. I can share some thoughts. What do you plan to do with the generated XML? For example, is this for a project where the XML version of a book is the final delivery? IF so, is delivering different XML documents for different book components acceptable? It should be straightforward to script or use the FDK to export different book components separately so that each export uses its own application if that is acceptable. Alternatively, depending how much overlap there is between the two DTDs, it will be more or less difficult to make a superset DTD. For instance, if no element names appear in both DTDs, it should be straightforward. If there are some common element names, does either DTD require a subelement or attribute that are not defined or defined differently in the other? Do elements with the same name in both DTDs correspond to the same FM object type in both? If an element is a table, say, in one but a cross-reference or even a container in the other, you have more work to do. You can always rename elements/attributes in the two DTDs to be unique and then convert both sets to common required names with XSLT. Are you allowed to change the FM documents or do you have to export based on what you have already? Do the DTDs already exist? If so, can you change them? Combining the two XSLT transforms may well be easier than combining the DTDs, especially if a combined transform can test which type of document it is processing. In any case, the different types of documents can use different EDDs and use different formats. --Lynne -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Mixed DTDs in a single book
Hi Framers, I have a book file that has two types of documents in it, each based on a different DTD and structured application. Each structured application calls a different XSLT stylesheet. Is there a way to save the book to XML and have FrameMaker use the correct struct apps for each file? Otherwise, maybe I combine the DTDs and stylesheets and use a single structured application? Suggestions are appreciated. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Exporting graphic elements to CGM file (structured XML)
Glad to hear that you solved the low resolution problem. I would like to
make a couple of suggestions on your Writer Facet r/w rules:
1. The Notation rules do not specify the format of the graphics within
FM nor do they specify the desired output format; they specify the name
of the notation that appears in the entity declarations at the beginning
of the exported XML. These entity declarations will be something like:
where /n/ and /m/ are numbers and /not/ is a notation name that must be
declared in the DTD. Since your r/w rules specify exporting both PDF and
TIFF files as CGM, the notation should probably be something likke "CGM"
or "cgm" to indicate what you will be providing with the XML file and
not PDF or TIFF to indicate what you used in FrameMaker. You might try
leaving out the Notation rule and see whether the default is acceptable.
2. You have r/w rules for PDF and TIFF facets. If you use other formats
now or might in the future and want to convert whatever comes up to CGM,
you can use one rule for every facet type that doesn't have a rule of
its own:
writer facet default {
convert referenced graphics;
export to file "test-.CGM" as "CGM";
}
adding a Notation rule if necessary. This single writer rule will
replace the two you have now as well as supporting addition graphic formats.
--Lynne
On 7/24/2019 7:46 AM, cuc tu wrote:
writer facet "PDF" {
notation is "PDF";
convert referenced graphics;
export to file "test-.CGM" as "CGM";
}
writer facet "TIFF" {
notation is "TIFF";
convert referenced graphics;
export to file "test-.CGM" as "CGM";
}
--
Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and
training
lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284
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Re: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning of a text flow
If it's a unique paragraph tag used only at the start of a flow/frame, I've used an empty reference frame above the paragraph (the Advanced page of the Paragraph Designer). It's a more flexible solution than a master page (IMO). Pat Christenson -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 3:40 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning of a text flow [EXTERNAL EMAIL] What you describe is the way Frame works. Space above is always ignored for a paragraph that falls at the top of a frame. The best approach is to add a special master page for the first page of a chapter that has a text frame that starts lower on the page. Inserting blank paragraphs is almost never an optimal solution for vertical spacing issues. The only time I use a paragraph that contains no text is to hold the anchor for an inserted object (e.g. a table, an anchored frame, a text inset). -FR From: Framers on behalf of Peter Kelly Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 3:21 To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning of a text flow Hi everyone, I've come across this strange behavior of Frame where if I insert a paragraph at the beginning of a text flow, Space Before does not seem to be taken into account. I have to use empty carriage returns to create white space before a major heading at the beginning of a flow, for example. Am I missing something? As always grateful for any help received. Best, Peter ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fwww.frameusers.com-26amp-3Bdata-3D02-257C01-257C-257C0842401689834aae91d508d6fd9035fb-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435-257C1-257C0-257C636975193147903806-26amp-3Bsdata-3DGyL-252BD0wxkOZ5S-252BmGZSZSpYiFQwirQfvoAxcbsB7oUiY-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=L67xDH2Qec7l5uO-a2HKcLmJNlOxZMwzhkvWiwUR5jw=6n6rfTqEjC94d9g72MFuj26EgE9LldOHnmYp7unWhzQ= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fwww.mail-2Darchive.com-252Fframers-252540lists.frameusers.com-252F-26amp-3Bdata-3D02-257C01-257C-257C0842401689834aae91d508d6fd9035fb-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435-257C1-257C0-257C636975193147903806-26amp-3Bsdata-3DaX1DED9i8TTcv4qZqZjqSOGb0ZWU2t8F5e-252BoAXPY2J8-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=L67xDH2Qec7l5uO-a2HKcLmJNlOxZMwzhkvWiwUR5jw=2b0MqXW3q49k7op-MqjZSyCBQBf42OYzj2H1xlb05TU= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Flists.frameusers.com-252Flistinfo.cgi-252Fframers-2Dframeusers.com-26amp-3Bdata-3D02-257C01-257C-257C0842401689834aae91d508d6fd9035fb-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435-257C1-257C0-257C636975193147903806-26amp-3Bsdata-3DK0FTn4nnvuM7JDyMHZatTVKcT6z5p3V39dcgvYJ1jp4-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=L67xDH2Qec7l5uO-a2HKcLmJNlOxZMwzhkvWiwUR5jw=l6nihvLi5O8GHAZTf6RjMaz3zzGN_BK5Zc2tJYrCQ6U= Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=L67xDH2Qec7l5uO-a2HKcLmJNlOxZMwzhkvWiwUR5jw=rV2jCD0mjyB2oZrPbzdBPykqB0SJ613k73Kntq4hhcY= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=L67xDH2Qec7l5uO-a2HKcLmJNlOxZMwzhkvWiwUR5jw=wtvYa54GAFivXkTMmfNNXjET7YWUMRoALLuz7op1PJI= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.com_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=L67xDH2Qec7l5uO-a2HKcLmJNlOxZMwzhkvWiwUR5jw=7Q-k8YOyvWgxQSzy9mspB0SaXMcz2JhEKt9m6w8WNNU= Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list
