Re: [Framers] Structure Emphasis and Xref elements break lines
Thank you, Lynne. My problem was expecting the frame document to automatically update the element definitions after updating the EDD and template when reopening. I also tried resetting the structured application. Now, I even have the xrefs doing what I want. Thank you, C2 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 11:48:59 -0700 From: "Lynne A. Price" To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Structure Emphasis and Xref elements break lines Message-ID: <65dc6338-3849-61f8-663d-619360dae...@txstruct.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed C2, ??? Use a TextRangeFormatting ... Open the EDD, template, and structured document. If you have not already done so, make the template the current document and use File > Import >? Element Definitions... ??? --Lynne -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 163, Issue 9
Re CSS code jockey: I switched most of my documents from structured Framemaker to Flare after encountering problems with Framemaker exports to web and ebook formats. But even with Flare, editing of CSS is cumbersome. I now do all edits in Adobe Brackets. It is much easier to fix and organize. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2019, at 1:02 PM, framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com wrote: > > Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com > To subscribe or unsubscribe, visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com You > can reach the person managing the list at > framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your > Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers > digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. OT: CSS Code Jockey? (tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com) > 2. Structure Emphasis and Xref elements break lines (cuc tu) > 3. Re: Structure Emphasis and Xref elements break lines > (Lynne A. Price) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 11:04:12 -0600 > From: > To: > Subject: [Framers] OT: CSS Code Jockey? > Message-ID: <01d58f44$0e0e1650$2a2a42f0$@spectrumwritingllc.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" > > Hey All, > > > > I am stuck in RoboH*ll using RH 2019's not even remotely for primetime tool > to develop OLH for a client. (It is a client-mandated tool and I do NOT have > an option to switch!) I desperately need a CSS code jockey to assist me in > modifying the CSS for this project - it's an absolute nightmare between > having to use an inherited CSS as well as Adobe thinking that they are > "helping" you by automatically sticking in CSS where they think it's > appropriate based on manual edits that I am making and not being able to > make this tool NOT do this blasted automatic coding. > > > > I know that this is the FM list, but hopefully, that means there are some RH > users on this list as well that might be able to point me to a resource. > > > > TIA!! > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 17:16:33 + > From: cuc tu > To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" > Subject: [Framers] Structure Emphasis and Xref elements break lines > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Howdy Framers, > > I have emphasis and xref elements defined as containers without any > formatting. They break the line as a new paragraph, so how do I get them to > be inline? I thought of having them use an inline heading paragraph format, > but the emphasis styling is applied as an attribute so I would not see a > difference between bold and italic. That might be OK as I'm not really > interested in a fully formatted document, just something easier to edit. I > send XML output as the deliverable. > > Also, how do changes to the EDD and template get applied to an existing > structured fm file? For example, I changed the EDD element to use a > numbered paragraph format, but that seemed to have no affect. My FM doc does > not ask for a structured app, but it seems to follow the one I've applied. > > Thanks, > C2 > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 11:48:59 -0700 > From: "Lynne A. Price" > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] Structure Emphasis and Xref elements break >lines > Message-ID: <65dc6338-3849-61f8-663d-619360dae...@txstruct.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >> On 10/30/2019 10:16 AM, cuc tu wrote: >> Howdy Framers, >> >> I have emphasis and xref elements defined as containers without any >> formatting. They break the line as a new paragraph, so how do I get them to >> be inline? I thought of having them use an inline heading paragraph format, >> but the emphasis styling is applied as an attribute so I would not see a >> difference between bold and italic. > > C2, > ??? Use a TextRangeFormatting element in a text format rule to specify > that a container is a text range in the current paragraph. You can > specify individual font properties or apply a character format within > such a rule. And you can format the element based on an attribute. You > might want to use something like: > > 1.? If context is: [emphasis="bold"] > ? Text range. > ? Font properties > ? Weight: Bold > Else, if context is [emphasis="italic"] > ?? Text range > ?? Font properties > ?? Angle: Italic > > which has the structure: > > > ??? > [emphasis="bold"] > ?? > ? > ? > ?? > ??? > ?? > ? >
Re: [Framers] Structure Emphasis and Xref elements break lines
On 10/30/2019 10:16 AM, cuc tu wrote: Howdy Framers, I have emphasis and xref elements defined as containers without any formatting. They break the line as a new paragraph, so how do I get them to be inline? I thought of having them use an inline heading paragraph format, but the emphasis styling is applied as an attribute so I would not see a difference between bold and italic. C2, Use a TextRangeFormatting element in a text format rule to specify that a container is a text range in the current paragraph. You can specify individual font properties or apply a character format within such a rule. And you can format the element based on an attribute. You might want to use something like: 1. If context is: [emphasis="bold"] Text range. Font properties Weight: Bold Else, if context is [emphasis="italic"] Text range Font properties Angle: Italic which has the structure: [emphasis="bold"] [emphasis="italic"] Also, how do changes to the EDD and template get applied to an existing structured fm file? For example, I changed the EDD element to use a numbered paragraph format, but that seemed to have no affect. My FM doc does not ask for a structured app, but it seems to follow the one I've applied. Open the EDD, template, and structured document. If you have not already done so, make the template the current document and use File > Import > Element Definitions to update the template to use the element definitions defined in the EDD. Save the template. Then switch to the structured document. Use File > Import > Formats to import all formats into the structured document. Next, use File > Import > Element Definitions to import the element definitions from the template into the structured document. Make sure to check the box to remove format overrides. Note 1: You could import element definitions from the EDD, but then FM would display any relevant warning messages again. Note 2: You can import templates before importing element definitions, but then any assignment of paragraph or character properties made in the EDD will be lost. You can always remove such overrides by importing element definitions from the current document and checking the box to remove overrides. --Lynne -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Structure Emphasis and Xref elements break lines
Howdy Framers, I have emphasis and xref elements defined as containers without any formatting. They break the line as a new paragraph, so how do I get them to be inline? I thought of having them use an inline heading paragraph format, but the emphasis styling is applied as an attribute so I would not see a difference between bold and italic. That might be OK as I'm not really interested in a fully formatted document, just something easier to edit. I send XML output as the deliverable. Also, how do changes to the EDD and template get applied to an existing structured fm file? For example, I changed the EDD element to use a numbered paragraph format, but that seemed to have no affect. My FM doc does not ask for a structured app, but it seems to follow the one I've applied. Thanks, C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] OT: CSS Code Jockey?
Hey All, I am stuck in RoboH*ll using RH 2019's not even remotely for primetime tool to develop OLH for a client. (It is a client-mandated tool and I do NOT have an option to switch!) I desperately need a CSS code jockey to assist me in modifying the CSS for this project - it's an absolute nightmare between having to use an inherited CSS as well as Adobe thinking that they are "helping" you by automatically sticking in CSS where they think it's appropriate based on manual edits that I am making and not being able to make this tool NOT do this blasted automatic coding. I know that this is the FM list, but hopefully, that means there are some RH users on this list as well that might be able to point me to a resource. TIA!! Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
