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DoD 358
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:54 PM Tarlochan S. Nahal
wrote:
> Dear Framers,
>
> Sorry, the cartoon image (sumo wrestlers Framaker vs. Interleaf) that I had
> attached, did not go through. I will be happy to email it you if you send
> me an email.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tarlochan S. Nahal
> tnaha...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 2:19 PM
> wrote:
>
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> >1. Re: Framers Digest, Vol 169, Issue 8 (Tarlochan S. Nahal)
> >2. Re: cartoon (Craig Ede)
> >3. Re: Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015 (Robert Lauriston)
> >4. Re: Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015 (jackdel...@comcast.net)
> >5. Re: Framers Digest, Vol 169, Issue 8 (Peter Gold)
> >6. Please change subject line for digest posts and trim them
> > (Carol J. Elkins)
> >7. FrameMaker User Groups WAS: Framers Digest, Vol 169, Issue
> > 8 (Craig Ede)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:32:49 -0700
> > From: "Tarlochan S. Nahal"
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 169, Issue 8
> > Message-ID:
> > > 1wmvspqeqgb_sptk0e8...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > My nostalgia goes further back!
> >
> > As many of you might know there was another heavy-weight technical
> > publishing tool called Interleaf. I really liked it and had a much better
> > graphic tool when FrameMaker was not even able to create a "dotted line,"
> > but it practically disappeared by the mid-1990s. There might still be
> some
> > licenses floating around, especially with some defense contractors.
> >
> > FrameMaker was coming strong in the early 1990s and Interleaf was losing
> > steam fairly rapidly. Why? Well, Interleaf started to dilly-dally on
> > customer service and won't pick phone calls if anyone had any problems
> with
> > installation or usage. It was a great software, but it failed to keep up
> > with customer demands. Sometimes I feel the same way about FrameMaker
> > today. Why doesn't the installation link always work? Why do you have to
> > spend hours on the phone with customer service to get it going? Why don't
> > they have user group meetings in the local high tech companies once in a
> > month as they did in the 1990s? It was great way to get real customer
> > feedback from people who are the actual users and front-line warriors.
> They
> > almost mishandled DITA and abdicated their responsibility to XML DITA,
> etc.
> > As a result, Adobe lost a significant market share to other vendors. In
> > spite of all that I have been a loyal user of FrameMaker for decades.
> >
> > Anyway, I share with you a cartoon in the form of two sumo wrestlers
> that
> > I asked a friend of mine Bill Bergman to make for me in 1992. Please
> enjoy.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tarlochan Nahal
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 2:19 PM
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com
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> > > can reach the person managing the list at
> > > framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your
> > > Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers
> > > digest..."
> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >1. Re: Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015 (Jerilynne Knight)
> > >2. Re: Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015 (Peter Gold)
> > >3. Re: Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015 (Jerilynne Knight)
> > >4. Re: Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015 (Peter Gold)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 21:33:46 -0400
> > > From: Jerilynne Knight
> > > To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
> > > Message-ID:
> > > > > kbdboca0atg-nc+x...@mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Oh wowser Mark...I forgot about the Gem envir
