Re: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

[de Rouck, Tom (Zelzate)]

Hello Simon,

OK my mistake, I think I should have said "omission sign", not quotation mark.
When "de" and "le/la" are before a vowel it should be l'  right, and not l ' ?
L'amour and not l 'amour.
Je viens d'Espagne and not Je viens d 'Espagne?

(hopefully Outlook is not going to auto-correct my spaces)

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Tom De Rouck
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Hi everyone,

Who at Adobe suddenly thought it was a good idea to automatically add a hard 
space before a single quotation mark in French, in Framemaker 2022?
Anyone knows how to turn this off?

Merci pour l 'aide (intended)

Best regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
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Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation 
Services

SGS Belgium NV
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French
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Wow! That's a stupid idea. Hopefully, it's a bug not a feature and will soon be 
fixed.

Alison

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Subject: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

Hi everyone,

Who at Adobe suddenly thought it was a good idea to automatically add a hard 
space before a single quotation mark in French, in Framemaker 2022?
Anyone knows how to turn this off?

Merci pour l 'aide (intended)

Best regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
Industries & Environment
Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation 
Services

SGS Belgium NV
Karnemelkstraat 3
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Re: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

[Simon BUCH]

Bonjour tout le monde

It's not a stupid idea.  It's standard [traditional] French typography 
rules that specify that a half space is between the guillmet [simple or 
double] and the enclosed text.   Québecois French on the other hand may 
not follow the same rules.


« Vivre la différence! »

You might need to change character tags or paragraph tags to apply no 
language specification.
Alternatively, there may be a text option somewhere located in the 
Format menu ... or wherever Adobe have moved it!



Salut,
/// Simon BUCH



On 01/02/2024 13:50, acr...@shaw.ca wrote:

Wow! That's a stupid idea. Hopefully, it's a bug not a feature and will soon
be fixed.

Alison

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Subject: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

Hi everyone,

Who at Adobe suddenly thought it was a good idea to automatically add a hard
space before a single quotation mark in French, in Framemaker 2022?
Anyone knows how to turn this off?

Merci pour l 'aide (intended)

Best regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
Industries & Environment
Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation
Services

SGS Belgium NV
Karnemelkstraat 3
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Re: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

[acraig]

Wow! That's a stupid idea. Hopefully, it's a bug not a feature and will soon
be fixed.

Alison

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Sent: February 1, 2024 12:53 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

Hi everyone,

Who at Adobe suddenly thought it was a good idea to automatically add a hard
space before a single quotation mark in French, in Framemaker 2022?
Anyone knows how to turn this off?

Merci pour l 'aide (intended)

Best regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
Industries & Environment
Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation
Services

SGS Belgium NV
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[Framers] Single quotation mark in French

[de Rouck, Tom (Zelzate)]

Hi everyone,

Who at Adobe suddenly thought it was a good idea to automatically add a hard 
space before a single quotation mark in French, in Framemaker 2022?
Anyone knows how to turn this off?

Merci pour l 'aide (intended)

Best regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
Industries & Environment
Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation 
Services

SGS Belgium NV
Karnemelkstraat 3
B-9060 - Zelzate

Phone:  +32 (0)9 242 81 77
Mobile:  +32 (0)476 87 44 33
E-mail :   tom.dero...@sgs.com

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