RE: Framemaker vs. Flare

2006-08-17 Thread AJ Coots

Hardly a conviction...simply what the sales staff told me.  

I'm an babe-in-the-woods about all this. Just hoping for some guidance
from the more experienced of you out there in cyber space.  

It looks like Flare is not very well known, even by it's own sales
staff!


A.J. Coots
Documentation Specialist
Portland, Oregon  97224-7756
 
Direct: 503 597 0765 
Internal Ext. #515
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:18 PM
To: AJ Coots
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Framemaker vs. Flare

AJ, perhaps you'd better tell Madcap about your conviction that Flare
is their FM killer; they seem to have the wrong info on their www
site

According to their www site, Flare is their help authoring tool. Help.
Not books, XML, DITA. Just help. FM is a much more full-featured
authoring environment that isn't designed just for help.

And concerning Blaze:

"MadCap Blaze(tm) - Your Frame Alternative

Blaze is the latest product under development from MadCap Software.
Scheduled for release early 2007, Blaze will be the ideal solution for
easily producing very long documents for print-such as books, manuals
and illustrated guides-using the latest technological advances
available. For years, authors have had to choose between ease of use
(e.g., Microsoft(r) Word(tm)) or the power to handle very large
documents
(e.g., Adobe(r) FrameMaker(r)). Now, with MadCap Blaze, authors have a
complete package: ease of use, power to create long documents,
flexibility, and an eye toward the future."

Cheers,
Art

On 8/17/06, AJ Coots <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Again...it's not Blaze it's Flare that is the contender with
Framemaker.
>
>
>
> A.J. Coots
> Documentation Specialist
>
>
>
> 16640 SW 72nd Ave.
> Portland, Oregon  97224-7756
>
> Direct: 503 597 0765
> Internal Ext. #515
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: John Posada
> Cc: AJ Coots; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Framemaker vs. Flare
>
> And in addition to John's accurate comments, do you want to bet your
job
> and
> company on the first release of a new product (Blaze)?
>
> Or are you just talking about online help delivery with Flare?
>
> Art
>
> On 8/17/06, John Posada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Has anyone compared the functionality of Adobe Framemaker 7.2 with
> > > Madcap Software's (formerly Robohelp) Flare?
> > >
> > > I am trying to decide which one to go with for the
> > > documentation for my company. Framemaker seems to be the
> > > industry standard, but is Flare just as good? Any thoughts?
> >
> > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the FM functionality in the
> > Madcap product is, as of right now, still under very limited alpha
> > testing and has not even gone beta yet.
> >
> > Besides, and again, correct me, but Madcap's FM-wannabe is going to
> > be called Blaze, and I don't know if that's even hit alpha yet.
> >
> > So...if you are looking to implement something in the next couple of
> > quarters and want FM-type binary files, you're choice may be
limited.
> >
> >
> > John Posada
> > Senior Technical Writer
>
> --
> Art Campbell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent
>and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
>


-- 
Art Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358
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Framemaker vs. Flare

2006-08-17 Thread AJ Coots
Let me re-phrase the question:  Has anyone here used Madcap Flare? 

 
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RE: Framemaker vs. Flare

2006-08-17 Thread AJ Coots
Hmmm, I am making process sheets for circuit board assembly.  
I need a standard format, as all the engineers have to this point been
making their own documentation and now I'm here to standardize it all.  

We are in print right now (MS Word) but I want to be able to expand to
go online with the process sheets eventually. 

 
A.J. Coots
Documentation Specialist
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:05 PM
To: AJ Coots
Subject: RE: Framemaker vs. Flare

This is like comparing MS Word to RoboHelp. Different tools for
different purposes, and optimized for different types of deliverables.
Flare is barely competent as a tool for production of books because
it's intended to produce online help. FrameMaker is great for making
books, but can only produce help with some add-on conversion tool.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of AJ Coots
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:34 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Framemaker vs. Flare


Hello,

Has anyone compared the functionality of Adobe Framemaker 7.2 with
Madcap Software's (formerly Robohelp) Flare?  

I am trying to decide which one to go with for the documentation for my
company. Framemaker seems to be the industry standard, but is Flare just
as good? Any thoughts?

 

Thanks! -Aj  
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Framemaker vs. Flare

2006-08-17 Thread AJ Coots

Hardly a conviction...simply what the sales staff told me.  

I'm an babe-in-the-woods about all this. Just hoping for some guidance
from the more experienced of you out there in cyber space.  

It looks like Flare is not very well known, even by it's own sales
staff!


A.J. Coots
Documentation Specialist
Portland, Oregon  97224-7756

Direct: 503 597 0765 
Internal Ext. #515
Email: aj.coots at veris.com  


-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:18 PM
To: AJ Coots
Cc: jposada01 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Framemaker vs. Flare

AJ, perhaps you'd better tell Madcap about your conviction that Flare
is their FM killer; they seem to have the wrong info on their www
site

According to their www site, Flare is their help authoring tool. Help.
Not books, XML, DITA. Just help. FM is a much more full-featured
authoring environment that isn't designed just for help.

And concerning Blaze:

"MadCap Blaze(tm) - Your Frame Alternative

Blaze is the latest product under development from MadCap Software.
Scheduled for release early 2007, Blaze will be the ideal solution for
easily producing very long documents for print-such as books, manuals
and illustrated guides-using the latest technological advances
available. For years, authors have had to choose between ease of use
(e.g., Microsoft(r) Word(tm)) or the power to handle very large
documents
(e.g., Adobe(r) FrameMaker(r)). Now, with MadCap Blaze, authors have a
complete package: ease of use, power to create long documents,
flexibility, and an eye toward the future."

Cheers,
Art

On 8/17/06, AJ Coots  wrote:
> Again...it's not Blaze it's Flare that is the contender with
Framemaker.
>
>
>
> A.J. Coots
> Documentation Specialist
>
>
>
> 16640 SW 72nd Ave.
> Portland, Oregon  97224-7756
>
> Direct: 503 597 0765
> Internal Ext. #515
> Email: aj.coots at veris.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: John Posada
> Cc: AJ Coots; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Framemaker vs. Flare
>
> And in addition to John's accurate comments, do you want to bet your
job
> and
> company on the first release of a new product (Blaze)?
>
> Or are you just talking about online help delivery with Flare?
>
> Art
>
> On 8/17/06, John Posada  wrote:
> > > Has anyone compared the functionality of Adobe Framemaker 7.2 with
> > > Madcap Software's (formerly Robohelp) Flare?
> > >
> > > I am trying to decide which one to go with for the
> > > documentation for my company. Framemaker seems to be the
> > > industry standard, but is Flare just as good? Any thoughts?
> >
> > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the FM functionality in the
> > Madcap product is, as of right now, still under very limited alpha
> > testing and has not even gone beta yet.
> >
> > Besides, and again, correct me, but Madcap's FM-wannabe is going to
> > be called Blaze, and I don't know if that's even hit alpha yet.
> >
> > So...if you are looking to implement something in the next couple of
> > quarters and want FM-type binary files, you're choice may be
limited.
> >
> >
> > John Posada
> > Senior Technical Writer
>
> --
> Art Campbell
> art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent
>and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
>


-- 
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358



Framemaker vs. Flare

2006-08-17 Thread AJ Coots
Let me re-phrase the question:  Has anyone here used Madcap Flare? 


A.J. Coots
Documentation Specialist



16640 SW 72nd Ave.
Portland, Oregon  97224-7756

Direct: 503 597 0765
Email: aj.coots at veris.com  





Framemaker vs. Flare

2006-08-17 Thread AJ Coots
Hmmm, I am making process sheets for circuit board assembly.  
I need a standard format, as all the engineers have to this point been
making their own documentation and now I'm here to standardize it all.  

We are in print right now (MS Word) but I want to be able to expand to
go online with the process sheets eventually. 


A.J. Coots
Documentation Specialist



-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:05 PM
To: AJ Coots
Subject: RE: Framemaker vs. Flare

This is like comparing MS Word to RoboHelp. Different tools for
different purposes, and optimized for different types of deliverables.
Flare is barely competent as a tool for production of books because
it's intended to produce online help. FrameMaker is great for making
books, but can only produce help with some add-on conversion tool.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of AJ Coots
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:34 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Framemaker vs. Flare


Hello,

Has anyone compared the functionality of Adobe Framemaker 7.2 with
Madcap Software's (formerly Robohelp) Flare?  

I am trying to decide which one to go with for the documentation for my
company. Framemaker seems to be the industry standard, but is Flare just
as good? Any thoughts?



Thanks! -Aj  
___



Framemaker vs. Flare

2006-08-17 Thread AJ Coots

Hello,

Has anyone compared the functionality of Adobe Framemaker 7.2 with
Madcap Software's (formerly Robohelp) Flare?  

I am trying to decide which one to go with for the documentation for my
company. Framemaker seems to be the industry standard, but is Flare just
as good? Any thoughts?

 

Thanks! -Aj  
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Framemaker vs. Flare

2006-08-17 Thread AJ Coots

Hello,

Has anyone compared the functionality of Adobe Framemaker 7.2 with
Madcap Software's (formerly Robohelp) Flare?  

I am trying to decide which one to go with for the documentation for my
company. Framemaker seems to be the industry standard, but is Flare just
as good? Any thoughts?



Thanks! -Aj