Recommended format for importing vector graphics

2007-12-08 Thread David Bills
All,

My department generates vector graphics in Illustrator CS2 and imports them 
into Frame 7.2 as EPS. Recently, we've considered importing our graphics as 
PDF because it (1) provides a full preview instead of a TIFF preview and (2) 
the Illustrator PDF file size is smaller than the EPS file size.

Are there any other advantages or disadvantages to importing Illustrator 
graphics as PDF instead of EPS that we're not considering?

Thanks in advance,

David Bills
Melbourne, FL 




Recommended format for importing vector graphics

2007-12-08 Thread David Bills
All,

My department generates vector graphics in Illustrator CS2 and imports them 
into Frame 7.2 as EPS. Recently, we've considered importing our graphics as 
PDF because it (1) provides a full preview instead of a TIFF preview and (2) 
the Illustrator PDF file size is smaller than the EPS file size.

Are there any other advantages or disadvantages to importing Illustrator 
graphics as PDF instead of EPS that we're not considering?

Thanks in advance,

David Bills
Melbourne, FL 


___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Change bars in Framemaker

2007-06-15 Thread David Bills
Hi Becky,

If you're going to use automatic change bars, it's important to understand 
what is marked as a change when this command is activated. For example, 
updated cross-references are marked as a change; updated graphics that are 
imported by reference are not marked as a change; updated graphics that are 
imported with a different file name are marked as a change; etc.

If you're experiencing undesirable results, mark the changes manually. It 
takes a little longer, but the peace of mind is worth it.

Also, the compare document feature mentioned in a previous e-mail doesn't do 
a good job identifying changes in tables or graphics. It also introduces 
conditional text to the document, which adds a layer of complexity to the 
document. It's a useful tool, but probably not the best solution for your 
situation.

Good luck,

Dave Bills


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: Change bars in Framemaker


> My framehating coworker requested that I send this question in. We use
> automatic change bars every time we work on our files. Big ones, 10 pt
> thickness, on the left side of the column. When my coworker works on a
> file, it will add change bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter
> titles. He gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having
> automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea?
>
> Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend!
>
>
> Becky Frasure
> ___
>
>
> You are currently subscribed to Framers as dmbills at cfl.rr.com.
>
> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.
>
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to
> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
> or visit 
> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com
>
> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
> 





Re: Change bars in Framemaker

2007-06-15 Thread David Bills

Hi Becky,

If you're going to use automatic change bars, it's important to understand 
what is marked as a change when this command is activated. For example, 
updated cross-references are marked as a change; updated graphics that are 
imported by reference are not marked as a change; updated graphics that are 
imported with a different file name are marked as a change; etc.


If you're experiencing undesirable results, mark the changes manually. It 
takes a little longer, but the peace of mind is worth it.


Also, the compare document feature mentioned in a previous e-mail doesn't do 
a good job identifying changes in tables or graphics. It also introduces 
conditional text to the document, which adds a layer of complexity to the 
document. It's a useful tool, but probably not the best solution for your 
situation.


Good luck,

Dave Bills


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: Change bars in Framemaker



My framehating coworker requested that I send this question in. We use
automatic change bars every time we work on our files. Big ones, 10 pt
thickness, on the left side of the column. When my coworker works on a
file, it will add change bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter
titles. He gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having
automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea?

Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend!


Becky Frasure
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com


Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.




___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding Pages?]

2006-06-10 Thread David Bills
Eric,

It may not be a relevant issue for you, but our department switched from 
xrefs to variables because the less experienced Frame users kept breaking 
the links and generating unresolved xrefs. We didn't think this would be 
difficult problem to resolve, but a number of the writers kept breaking the 
links after they had been trained, so we changed the way we managed the 
nomenclatures.

The point I'm attempting to make is that large departments, particularly 
those that weigh specialized technical skills and experience higher than 
desktop publishing skills, should factor the Frame capabilities of their 
less skilled Frame users into these types of decisions.

Dave Bills


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "John Posada" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding 
Pages?]


The text content of a cross-reference is limited by what you can build
using the Xref building blocks. It may be possible to have a Xref that
produces multiple paragraphs (Using \R in the def?) but I doubt it would
be workable.

But to combine multiple paragraphs, you need to have information that's
consistently tagged and organised. Then, it's only really workable to
create strings as I have done.

For multiple paras, I'd stick to insets.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

framers-bounces+eric.dunn=ca.transport.bombardier.com at lists.frameusers.com
wrote on 06/09/2006 10:41:06 AM:

> No...I've imported documents that were hundreds of pages long into
> another document.

> Of course, everything has a limit...maybe a million pages might be a
> problem?

> > than one chapter.  Is there a limit to how much text you can insert
> > with a cross reference?  My introductions often are two or three
> > paragraphs.

>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer

> "So long and thanks for all the fish."
> ___


___

This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential
or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or
entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to
receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read,
copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please
notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply
e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to
protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in
use and will browse through incoming emails.
Thank you.
_


Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut
contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou prot?g?s et est destin? ?
l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par
les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le
distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez re?u par inadvertance,
veuillez nous en aviser et d?truire ce message. Veuillez prendre note
qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilis?e afin d'assurer la
s?curit? de nos systems d'information et qu'elle fur?tera les courriels
entrant.
Merci.
_


___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as dmbills at cfl.rr.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com

Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.





Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding Pages?]

2006-06-10 Thread David Bills

Eric,

It may not be a relevant issue for you, but our department switched from 
xrefs to variables because the less experienced Frame users kept breaking 
the links and generating unresolved xrefs. We didn't think this would be 
difficult problem to resolve, but a number of the writers kept breaking the 
links after they had been trained, so we changed the way we managed the 
nomenclatures.


The point I'm attempting to make is that large departments, particularly 
those that weigh specialized technical skills and experience higher than 
desktop publishing skills, should factor the Frame capabilities of their 
less skilled Frame users into these types of decisions.


Dave Bills


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "John Posada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding 
Pages?]



The text content of a cross-reference is limited by what you can build
using the Xref building blocks. It may be possible to have a Xref that
produces multiple paragraphs (Using \R in the def?) but I doubt it would
be workable.

But to combine multiple paragraphs, you need to have information that's
consistently tagged and organised. Then, it's only really workable to
create strings as I have done.

For multiple paras, I'd stick to insets.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote on 06/09/2006 10:41:06 AM:


No...I've imported documents that were hundreds of pages long into
another document.



Of course, everything has a limit...maybe a million pages might be a
problem?



> than one chapter.  Is there a limit to how much text you can insert
> with a cross reference?  My introductions often are two or three
> paragraphs.




John Posada
Senior Technical Writer



"So long and thanks for all the fish."
___



___

This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential
or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or
entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to
receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read,
copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please
notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply
e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to
protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in
use and will browse through incoming emails.
Thank you.
_


Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut
contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à
l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par
les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le
distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance,
veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note
qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la
sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels
entrant.
Merci.
_


___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com


Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Organization Charts

2006-06-05 Thread David Bills
Hi Eduardo,

Visio is a popular tool with excellent org chart capabilities. You can use 
one of three options when working with Visio and Frame:
- import Visio files into Frame as an object
- convert the Visio file to PDF and import the PDF into Frame
- or convert the Visio file to PDF, save it as an EPS, and import the EPS 
into Frame

If you're committed to using an Adobe application, you can always use 
Illustrator. It's not as intuitive as Visio, but is more than capable of 
producing a high quality org chart. Just make sure you view rulers and grid 
lines and activate the snap feature.

Good luck!

Dave Bills



- Original Message - 
From: "Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr." 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:53 PM
Subject: Organization Charts


> Good evening from the USA
>
> As we fast approach yet another World Cup (my pick is the USA, naturally), 
> I
> wanted to do a personal project involving Organization Charts in 
> FrameMaker
> to outline the teams leading up to who will be the eventual winner (okay,
> it's a test to see if I can pull this off).
>
> Amazingly, I can't seem to find a software tool native to FrameMaker that
> creats these types of charts.  Looked in quite a few spots but it's 
> getting
> late (near midnight) and I'm a bit tired.
>
> Can anyone point me in a good direction.  I have MS Org Chart on my system
> but would rather stay within the Adobe line (consistency).
>
> Thanks and regards to all.
>
> Go USA!
>
> Eduardo
>
>
> Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
>
> "Heroes:  Ordinary people...doing extraordinary things...in extraordinary
> times."
>
>





> ___
>
>
> You are currently subscribed to Framers as dmbills at cfl.rr.com.
>
> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.
>
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to
> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
> or visit 
> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com
>
> Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit
> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
> 





Re: Organization Charts

2006-06-05 Thread David Bills

Hi Eduardo,

Visio is a popular tool with excellent org chart capabilities. You can use 
one of three options when working with Visio and Frame:

- import Visio files into Frame as an object
- convert the Visio file to PDF and import the PDF into Frame
- or convert the Visio file to PDF, save it as an EPS, and import the EPS 
into Frame


If you're committed to using an Adobe application, you can always use 
Illustrator. It's not as intuitive as Visio, but is more than capable of 
producing a high quality org chart. Just make sure you view rulers and grid 
lines and activate the snap feature.


Good luck!

Dave Bills



- Original Message - 
From: "Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:53 PM
Subject: Organization Charts



Good evening from the USA

As we fast approach yet another World Cup (my pick is the USA, naturally), 
I
wanted to do a personal project involving Organization Charts in 
FrameMaker

to outline the teams leading up to who will be the eventual winner (okay,
it's a test to see if I can pull this off).

Amazingly, I can't seem to find a software tool native to FrameMaker that
creats these types of charts.  Looked in quite a few spots but it's 
getting

late (near midnight) and I'm a bit tired.

Can anyone point me in a good direction.  I have MS Org Chart on my system
but would rather stay within the Adobe line (consistency).

Thanks and regards to all.

Go USA!

Eduardo


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

"Heroes:  Ordinary people...doing extraordinary things...in extraordinary
times."









___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com


Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.




___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM - Thanks!

2006-04-13 Thread David Bills
All,

Thank you for your thoughtful and informative responses. In addition to the 
list posts, Dave Brown provided a URL that describes the process at:
<http://www.indigorose.com/webhelp/ams60/How_do_I/Run_Adobe_Acrobat_Reader_directly_from_the_CD-ROM.htm>

As Peter suggested, we'll check with our Adobe rep and ensure that we're 
complying with their license prior to proceeding. It's a Government 
contract, so the customer will be flexible if there's a licensing issue 
involved.

Thanks again,

Dave Bills


- Original Message - 
From: "David Bills" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM


Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the 
manual CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM shall 
have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by 
using the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but 
didn't find any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs 
directly from the CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this 
information on Adobe's site, would you please send me the URL.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Bills
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as dmbills at cfl.rr.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com

Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.





OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM - Thanks!

2006-04-13 Thread David Bills

All,

Thank you for your thoughtful and informative responses. In addition to the 
list posts, Dave Brown provided a URL that describes the process at:

<http://www.indigorose.com/webhelp/ams60/How_do_I/Run_Adobe_Acrobat_Reader_directly_from_the_CD-ROM.htm>

As Peter suggested, we'll check with our Adobe rep and ensure that we're 
complying with their license prior to proceeding. It's a Government 
contract, so the customer will be flexible if there's a licensing issue 
involved.


Thanks again,

Dave Bills


- Original Message - 
From: "David Bills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM


Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the 
manual CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM shall 
have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by 
using the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but 
didn't find any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs 
directly from the CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this 
information on Adobe's site, would you please send me the URL.


Thanks in advance,

Dave Bills
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com


Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

2006-04-12 Thread David Bills
Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the manual 
CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM shall have 
Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by using 
the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but didn't find 
any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs directly from the 
CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this information on Adobe's 
site, would you please send me the URL.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Bills


OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

2006-04-12 Thread David Bills
Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the manual 
CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM shall have 
Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by using 
the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but didn't find 
any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs directly from the 
CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this information on Adobe's 
site, would you please send me the URL.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Bills
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.