Conditional Text Question
<< I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate between two different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this, there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text, hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 1's text is hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do this is to remove the borders around cells in a table that are conditionalized. Currently, there are large colored borders around any table cells that are marked as conditional. Hello Samuel, I get the digest, so perhaps someone else has already answered this. There's no need to maintain 3 versions of the chapters. 1. Create your book "A", add the chapters, and cover material. I keep a different cover for each version and my cover has the conditional text settings and variables I want for it's version. 2. Make sure you "turn off" the conditional text indicators, so the text and tables appear "normal" (no colored lines around the table cells or colored text). 3. Import the conditional text settings and variables to the chapters in the book. Check to make sure everything is ok. 4. Now, create the TOC and IX and finish the book. For Book B - you'll have the other conditional settings and variables in the cover, so when you create book B, with the same chapters, just remember that you have to import the settings from cover "B". Ellen Lebelle Technical Writer elebelle at gmail.com
Conditional Text Question
<< If these documents were for a new product line, we MIGHT be able to get away with putting them into a single number. However, they are for two separate but similar product lines. The first one is 1950 while the second one is 2158. OK, Sam. How about using smaller text insets that you import into your chapters. So your chapter is a shell - not quite empty - you can have most of your generic text there, but when you get to a topic that is product A, you import the text inset for product A and make it "conditional" and do the same for product B. When you import your conditional settings from the book cover, only the relevant text insets will appear. Use Bruce Foster's Archiver to make an archive of the A book and label it with the date and number. Do the same for Book B and these archives remain archives, and your source files can be updated without fouling up the archived books. Another solution is to use Structured FM and use Russ Ward's, Inset Plus (which allows you to inset text insets, update them and save the updates to them with no fuss) and ABCM (which allows you to use attributes and assign them colors - like conditional text - but better!). When you filter a book with the attributes you want, it creates new files that you can save for your archives. Your source files still contain everything. And you only need to update your source files. Ellen
Framers Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2
Hi Lisa, << If in the future, you want to change your email address, switch from regular mail to digest, stop your mail when you go on vacation, or change any of your other options, you can do so here: http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers . Hmm, I clicked on the link, and I could subscribe (unnecessay as I am already a subscriber), but the next form was for administrators. I did not see where I could suspend mail for a vacation. I'd like to do that for Thanksgiving break. Elleb Lebelle KDS Le Plessis-Robinson, France Ellen Lebelle new personal e-mail address: elebelle at gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051121/b6456abc/attachment.html
Another spellchecker query
Hello, A couple of months ago there was a similar query to mine, but I didn't find an answer in my file. The question was about the German dictionary and mine is about the French, but might apply to others - I haven't checked. I recently upgraded to 7.2. The installation is in English. I installed all the foreign dictionaries that I might need - right now French is the only one. I made sure the language value for all the paragraph tags is set to "fran?ais". I spell-checked a short document and the spell-checker was in US English, so of course, it kept coming up with errors that were not - quite useless. I couldn't find any help in the Adobe trouble-shooting questions. What did I miss? I don't remember having this problem in 7.0 or 6. Thanks, Ellen Lebelle
Structured FM - TOC and IX
Hello, FM 7.2 Our chapters are all structured and have been for some time. We are trying to finally bring structure to the TOC and IX. It looks like the TOC is going to work, but each time we regenerate a TOC we have to run it through a conversion table, so if anyone has a better solution, please share it. And now, for the index, there are whitespaces that seem to interfere with the structure. The more pages there are references to, the more "untagged text" tags we get. Is there anyone out there who has dealt with this before? Or is thre a ready-made solution that we just don't know about? Thanks for any help, *Ellen Lebelle* (mailto: elebelle at kds.com) Documentation Manager *KDS* Centre d'Affaires La Boursidi?re -- BP160 92357 Le Plessis Robinson -- France
Structured FM - TOC and IX
Hello all, Just want to thank everyone for their answers. It appears we were trying to do something that just isn't worth the effort -overkill. Ellen, KDS
FrameMaker7.2 and Acrobat
Hello all, I've just updated to 7.2 from 7.0.. So now I've got Acrobat Distiller 7 and Acrobat Reader 7.07. According to Adobe, I don't have what they call "Acrobat" Standard or Professional. So, in FrameMaker I can set the security when I create a pdf to allow comments, but when the pdf opens in the Reader, it is impossible to add comments. Is this correct behavior? According to the Adobe technician I spoke to, it is. But in that case, it's a serious regression from version 5.05. Do we really have to purchase more? I tried looking through old digests to find this topic and tried searching from the frameusers site - but got bogged down. Ellen Lebelle KDS Le Plessis-Robinson France
Docbook versus Home-Grown
Hi Joe, I work for a small company and I did my own EDD - with the help of many members on this list. I also "keep structure and presentation completely separate, the first in the EDD (i.e. 'if list level 2, set para tag X') and the second in the template." I did this as the DITA thing was gaining importance, but since I started before, I created my own tags in terms that I understand. (Wasn't that one of the selling points of xml - that you didn't have to comply with standardized tags?) In the end I think my structure is very DITA-like (because my mind just happens to work in the same way), but the tags are not. And, many of the more complex things that go into the DITA application are missing, so to convert into DITA would be a challenge. Also, because I was learning as I was doing, there are probably things that should be cleaned up in my EDD or made simpler. But it works for us. If you're just starting out with this now, you might want to take that into consideration. Ellen Lebelle (mailto: elebelle at kds.com) Documentation Manager KDS Centre d'Affaires La Boursidi?re -- BP160 92357 Le Plessis Robinson -- France
data reuse in structured FM...
Hi Elisa, First of all, Lynne's answer is good and I have only one thing to add: Inset Plus (http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_InsetPlus.htm) It's been a great plug in. That and the Sourcerer (www.advantica.biz/sourcerer), to filter attributes are great and get away from Frame's conditional text limitations, have been wonder tools. If there are enough frameusers in France who would like Russ to come over and speak or do a workshop, I bet we could twist his arm - answer me off-list. (secretary at stcfrance.org) Russ, if you are reading this, tell me how much twisting it would take ;-) Regards, Ellen Lebelle KDS -- Forwarded message -- From: "Elisabeth SABOT" < esa...@talend.com> To: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:14:26 +0200 Subject: data reuse in structured FM... Hi all, Am on FM 7.1, structured (more or less coz I haven't defined a proper template/EDD yet). --- I have never been very familiar with text insets but I thought this could be the right solution for this...But I am unable to import a specific part of a data flow from one section to another in the same FM file... anyone can help me on this? Maybe the text inset option isn't the right solution for this, as it is structured document? I hope my question isn't to messy. Many thanks in advance, Elisa -- Forwarded message -- From: "Lynne A. Price" < lpr...@txstruct.com> To: "Elisabeth SABOT" , Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:40:48 -0700 Subject: Re: data reuse in structured FM... At 07:14 AM 9/7/2006, Elisabeth SABOT wrote: >But I am unable to import a >specific part of a data flow from one section to another in the same FM >file. Elisa, A text inset cannot consist of part of a flow. Instead, create a new flow containing only the reusable portion and import it into both sections. This flow can be the main flow of a new document, a body flow of a new document, or a reference flow in the document you are editing or another one. Since you can create multiple body flows or reference flows in one document, you have the option of storing all text insets in one document. Just remember that if you use reference flows of the containing document, you'll need to save it before importing the text insets. A structured text inset must have a root element. You might therefore want your EDD to define an element that can contain part of a section. For example, suppose you want a Section to contain a Title and then four Paragraph elements of which the three last ones are to be in a text inset. You might define an element called TextInset that can contain all of the children of a Section (except possibly the Title). You would then create a flow containing a TextInset element with the three reusable Paragraphs, and the section with the text inset would consist of the Title, the first Paragraph, and the imported TextInset. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lprice at txstruct.com http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284
data reuse in structured FM...
Hi Elisa, First of all, Lynne's answer is good and I have only one thing to add: Inset Plus (http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_InsetPlus.htm) It's been a great plug in. That and the Sourcerer (www.advantica.biz/sourcerer), to filter attributes are great and get away from Frame's conditional text limitations, have been wonder tools. If there are enough frameusers in France who would like Russ to come over and speak or do a workshop, I bet we could twist his arm - answer me off-list. (secretary at stcfrance.org ) Russ, if you are reading this, tell me how much twisting it would take ;-) Regards, Ellen Lebelle KDS -- Forwarded message -- From: "Elisabeth SABOT" < esa...@talend.com> To: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:14:26 +0200 Subject: data reuse in structured FM... Hi all, Am on FM 7.1, structured (more or less coz I haven't defined a proper template/EDD yet). --- I have never been very familiar with text insets but I thought this could be the right solution for this...But I am unable to import a specific part of a data flow from one section to another in the same FM file... anyone can help me on this? Maybe the text inset option isn't the right solution for this, as it is structured document? I hope my question isn't to messy. Many thanks in advance, Elisa -- Forwarded message -- From: "Lynne A. Price" < lpr...@txstruct.com> To: "Elisabeth SABOT" ,< framers at lists.frameusers.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:40:48 -0700 Subject: Re: data reuse in structured FM... At 07:14 AM 9/7/2006, Elisabeth SABOT wrote: >But I am unable to import a >specific part of a data flow from one section to another in the same FM >file. Elisa, A text inset cannot consist of part of a flow. Instead, create a new flow containing only the reusable portion and import it into both sections. This flow can be the main flow of a new document, a body flow of a new document, or a reference flow in the document you are editing or another one. Since you can create multiple body flows or reference flows in one document, you have the option of storing all text insets in one document. Just remember that if you use reference flows of the containing document, you'll need to save it before importing the text insets. A structured text inset must have a root element. You might therefore want your EDD to define an element that can contain part of a section. For example, suppose you want a Section to contain a Title and then four Paragraph elements of which the three last ones are to be in a text inset. You might define an element called TextInset that can contain all of the children of a Section (except possibly the Title). You would then create a flow containing a TextInset element with the three reusable Paragraphs, and the section with the text inset would consist of the Title, the first Paragraph, and the imported TextInset. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lprice at txstruct.com http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284
Was Paste Special
Hello, Thanks for the reminder about paste special. Is there something similar to change for shrink-wrapped images? When I use ESC + m + p and get a shrink-wrapped image in my anchored frame the anchored frame settings are "At Insertion Point" and I have to manually set it for "Below current line, center". Thanks for any suggestions. I may not thank you immediately; I get the digest. Ellen Lebelle KDS elebelle at kds.com
re: Conditional Text Question
<< I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate between two different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this, there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text, hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 1's text is hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do this is to remove the borders around cells in a table that are conditionalized. Currently, there are large colored borders around any table cells that are marked as conditional. Hello Samuel, I get the digest, so perhaps someone else has already answered this. There's no need to maintain 3 versions of the chapters. 1. Create your book "A", add the chapters, and cover material. I keep a different cover for each version and my cover has the conditional text settings and variables I want for it's version. 2. Make sure you "turn off" the conditional text indicators, so the text and tables appear "normal" (no colored lines around the table cells or colored text). 3. Import the conditional text settings and variables to the chapters in the book. Check to make sure everything is ok. 4. Now, create the TOC and IX and finish the book. For Book B - you'll have the other conditional settings and variables in the cover, so when you create book B, with the same chapters, just remember that you have to import the settings from cover "B". Ellen Lebelle Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text Question
<< If these documents were for a new product line, we MIGHT be able to get away with putting them into a single number. However, they are for two separate but similar product lines. The first one is 1950 while the second one is 2158. OK, Sam. How about using smaller text insets that you import into your chapters. So your chapter is a shell - not quite empty - you can have most of your generic text there, but when you get to a topic that is product A, you import the text inset for product A and make it "conditional" and do the same for product B. When you import your conditional settings from the book cover, only the relevant text insets will appear. Use Bruce Foster's Archiver to make an archive of the A book and label it with the date and number. Do the same for Book B and these archives remain archives, and your source files can be updated without fouling up the archived books. Another solution is to use Structured FM and use Russ Ward's, Inset Plus (which allows you to inset text insets, update them and save the updates to them with no fuss) and ABCM (which allows you to use attributes and assign them colors - like conditional text - but better!). When you filter a book with the attributes you want, it creates new files that you can save for your archives. Your source files still contain everything. And you only need to update your source files. Ellen ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framers Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2
Hi Lisa, << If in the future, you want to change your email address, switch fromregular mail to digest, stop your mail when you go on vacation, orchange any of your other options, you can do so here:http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers . Hmm, I clicked on the link, and I could subscribe (unnecessay as I am already a subscriber), but the next form was for administrators. I did not see where I could suspend mail for a vacation. I'd like to do that for Thanksgiving break. Elleb Lebelle KDS Le Plessis-Robinson, FranceEllen Lebelle new personal e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker7.2 and Acrobat
Hello all, I've just updated to 7.2 from 7.0.. So now I've got Acrobat Distiller 7 and Acrobat Reader 7.07. According to Adobe, I don't have what they call "Acrobat" Standard or Professional. So, in FrameMaker I can set the security when I create a pdf to allow comments, but when the pdf opens in the Reader, it is impossible to add comments. Is this correct behavior? According to the Adobe technician I spoke to, it is. But in that case, it's a serious regression from version 5.05. Do we really have to purchase more? I tried looking through old digests to find this topic and tried searching from the frameusers site - but got bogged down. Ellen Lebelle KDS Le Plessis-Robinson France ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Another spellchecker query
Hello, A couple of months ago there was a similar query to mine, but I didn't find an answer in my file. The question was about the German dictionary and mine is about the French, but might apply to others - I haven't checked. I recently upgraded to 7.2. The installation is in English. I installed all the foreign dictionaries that I might need - right now French is the only one. I made sure the language value for all the paragraph tags is set to "français". I spell-checked a short document and the spell-checker was in US English, so of course, it kept coming up with errors that were not - quite useless. I couldn't find any help in the Adobe trouble-shooting questions. What did I miss? I don't remember having this problem in 7.0 or 6. Thanks, Ellen Lebelle ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Structured FM - TOC and IX
Hello, FM 7.2 Our chapters are all structured and have been for some time. We are trying to finally bring structure to the TOC and IX. It looks like the TOC is going to work, but each time we regenerate a TOC we have to run it through a conversion table, so if anyone has a better solution, please share it. And now, for the index, there are whitespaces that seem to interfere with the structure. The more pages there are references to, the more "untagged text" tags we get. Is there anyone out there who has dealt with this before? Or is thre a ready-made solution that we just don't know about? Thanks for any help, *Ellen Lebelle* (mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Documentation Manager *KDS* Centre d'Affaires La Boursidière -- BP160 92357 Le Plessis Robinson -- France ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Structured FM - TOC and IX
Hello all, Just want to thank everyone for their answers. It appears we were trying to do something that just isn't worth the effort -overkill. Ellen, KDS ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
data reuse in structured FM...
Hi Elisa, First of all, Lynne's answer is good and I have only one thing to add: Inset Plus (http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_InsetPlus.htm) It's been a great plug in. That and the Sourcerer (www.advantica.biz/sourcerer), to filter attributes are great and get away from Frame's conditional text limitations, have been wonder tools. If there are enough frameusers in France who would like Russ to come over and speak or do a workshop, I bet we could twist his arm - answer me off-list. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Russ, if you are reading this, tell me how much twisting it would take ;-) Regards, Ellen Lebelle KDS -- Forwarded message -- From: "Elisabeth SABOT" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:14:26 +0200 Subject: data reuse in structured FM... Hi all, Am on FM 7.1, structured (more or less coz I haven't defined a proper template/EDD yet). --- I have never been very familiar with text insets but I thought this could be the right solution for this...But I am unable to import a specific part of a data flow from one section to another in the same FM file... anyone can help me on this? Maybe the text inset option isn't the right solution for this, as it is structured document? I hope my question isn't to messy. Many thanks in advance, Elisa -- Forwarded message -- From: "Lynne A. Price" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elisabeth SABOT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:40:48 -0700 Subject: Re: data reuse in structured FM... At 07:14 AM 9/7/2006, Elisabeth SABOT wrote: But I am unable to import a specific part of a data flow from one section to another in the same FM file. Elisa, A text inset cannot consist of part of a flow. Instead, create a new flow containing only the reusable portion and import it into both sections. This flow can be the main flow of a new document, a body flow of a new document, or a reference flow in the document you are editing or another one. Since you can create multiple body flows or reference flows in one document, you have the option of storing all text insets in one document. Just remember that if you use reference flows of the containing document, you'll need to save it before importing the text insets. A structured text inset must have a root element. You might therefore want your EDD to define an element that can contain part of a section. For example, suppose you want a Section to contain a Title and then four Paragraph elements of which the three last ones are to be in a text inset. You might define an element called TextInset that can contain all of the children of a Section (except possibly the Title). You would then create a flow containing a TextInset element with the three reusable Paragraphs, and the section with the text inset would consist of the Title, the first Paragraph, and the imported TextInset. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
data reuse in structured FM...
Hi Elisa, First of all, Lynne's answer is good and I have only one thing to add: Inset Plus (http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_InsetPlus.htm) It's been a great plug in. That and the Sourcerer (www.advantica.biz/sourcerer), to filter attributes are great and get away from Frame's conditional text limitations, have been wonder tools. If there are enough frameusers in France who would like Russ to come over and speak or do a workshop, I bet we could twist his arm - answer me off-list. ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Russ, if you are reading this, tell me how much twisting it would take ;-) Regards, Ellen Lebelle KDS -- Forwarded message -- From: "Elisabeth SABOT" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:14:26 +0200 Subject: data reuse in structured FM... Hi all, Am on FM 7.1, structured (more or less coz I haven't defined a proper template/EDD yet). --- I have never been very familiar with text insets but I thought this could be the right solution for this...But I am unable to import a specific part of a data flow from one section to another in the same FM file... anyone can help me on this? Maybe the text inset option isn't the right solution for this, as it is structured document? I hope my question isn't to messy. Many thanks in advance, Elisa -- Forwarded message -- From: "Lynne A. Price" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elisabeth SABOT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,< framers@lists.frameusers.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:40:48 -0700 Subject: Re: data reuse in structured FM... At 07:14 AM 9/7/2006, Elisabeth SABOT wrote: But I am unable to import a specific part of a data flow from one section to another in the same FM file. Elisa, A text inset cannot consist of part of a flow. Instead, create a new flow containing only the reusable portion and import it into both sections. This flow can be the main flow of a new document, a body flow of a new document, or a reference flow in the document you are editing or another one. Since you can create multiple body flows or reference flows in one document, you have the option of storing all text insets in one document. Just remember that if you use reference flows of the containing document, you'll need to save it before importing the text insets. A structured text inset must have a root element. You might therefore want your EDD to define an element that can contain part of a section. For example, suppose you want a Section to contain a Title and then four Paragraph elements of which the three last ones are to be in a text inset. You might define an element called TextInset that can contain all of the children of a Section (except possibly the Title). You would then create a flow containing a TextInset element with the three reusable Paragraphs, and the section with the text inset would consist of the Title, the first Paragraph, and the imported TextInset. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Docbook versus Home-Grown
Hi Joe, I work for a small company and I did my own EDD - with the help of many members on this list. I also "keep structure and presentation completely separate, the first in the EDD (i.e. 'if list level 2, set para tag X') and the second in the template." I did this as the DITA thing was gaining importance, but since I started before, I created my own tags in terms that I understand. (Wasn't that one of the selling points of xml - that you didn't have to comply with standardized tags?) In the end I think my structure is very DITA-like (because my mind just happens to work in the same way), but the tags are not. And, many of the more complex things that go into the DITA application are missing, so to convert into DITA would be a challenge. Also, because I was learning as I was doing, there are probably things that should be cleaned up in my EDD or made simpler. But it works for us. If you're just starting out with this now, you might want to take that into consideration. Ellen Lebelle (mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Documentation Manager KDS Centre d'Affaires La Boursidière -- BP160 92357 Le Plessis Robinson -- France ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Was Paste Special
Hello, Thanks for the reminder about paste special. Is there something similar to change for shrink-wrapped images? When I use ESC + m + p and get a shrink-wrapped image in my anchored frame the anchored frame settings are "At Insertion Point" and I have to manually set it for "Below current line, center". Thanks for any suggestions. I may not thank you immediately; I get the digest. Ellen Lebelle KDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
