insufficient memory to import file
Well, it's been a long time since I've done more than browse the messages from the Framerslist. Hopefully someone might be able to help me though. When opening xml files with CGM graphics, I keep getting the message "insufficient memory to import file" in the XML Read Report Log. Graphics elements are stripped from the document and the document becomes invalid. Not to mentions this is disastrous if the error is overlooked and the file is saved. All graphics need to be re-imported. FrameMaker 7.1, Windows XP Professional SP3, 4Gb RAM
insufficient memory to import file
Well, it's been a long time since I've done more than browse the messages from the Framerslist. Hopefully someone might be able to help me though. When opening xml files with CGM graphics, I keep getting the message "insufficient memory to import file" in the XML Read Report Log. Graphics elements are stripped from the document and the document becomes invalid. Not to mentions this is disastrous if the error is overlooked and the file is saved. All graphics need to be re-imported. FrameMaker 7.1, Windows XP Professional SP3, 4Gb RAM ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat / FrameMaker conflicts during install
I think the question that remains, is when will the two applications become more aware of each other so that you needn't have to worry? That FM doesn't ask to install distiller if an Acrobat installation is found and that Acrobat fixes a FM distiller only install if a FM installation is found? On 12/13/07, Dov Isaacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With any recent version of both FrameMaker and Acrobat > there is absolutely NO reason to install one or another > first. What is true is that if you have or plan to have > the full Acrobat package (Standard, Pro, or 3D) installed, > as Joel advises, DO NOT install either the "PDF add-on thing" > or the "Distiller-only package" (FrameMaker 7.2 and earlier). > >- Dov ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Acrobat / FrameMaker conflicts during install
I think the question that remains, is when will the two applications become more aware of each other so that you needn't have to worry? That FM doesn't ask to install distiller if an Acrobat installation is found and that Acrobat fixes a FM distiller only install if a FM installation is found? On 12/13/07, Dov Isaacs wrote: > With any recent version of both FrameMaker and Acrobat > there is absolutely NO reason to install one or another > first. What is true is that if you have or plan to have > the full Acrobat package (Standard, Pro, or 3D) installed, > as Joel advises, DO NOT install either the "PDF add-on thing" > or the "Distiller-only package" (FrameMaker 7.2 and earlier). > >- Dov
Adjusting table column widths in a two column layout
Use Framescript, or a plug-in from Rick. > From: "Jon Harvey" > Is there a way to configure table column widths in either FrameMaker or > Flare so that, when the document is imported into Flare, the table > expands to the width of the surrounding text?
Re: Adjusting table column widths in a two column layout
Use Framescript, or a plug-in from Rick. > From: "Jon Harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is there a way to configure table column widths in either FrameMaker or > Flare so that, when the document is imported into Flare, the table > expands to the width of the surrounding text? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
On 9/25/07, Hedley Finger wrote: > > > Well, it will be if we ALL start screaming for > > So, everyone get on it: http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html How about someone re-write all those wishes into a format that will cut and paste into the Adobe form?
Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
On 9/25/07, Hedley Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, it will be if we ALL start screaming for > > So, everyone get on it: http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html How about someone re-write all those wishes into a format that will cut and paste into the Adobe form? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF question
Why try to perform something difficult in Acrobat that is so simple Framemaker? Either two templates, On-Line and B&W Print, or simpler print one with "Spot Color as Black/White". If you don't want to distribute two PDFs, I remember Shlomo at MicroType had examples of PDFs with different screen and print formatting.
What's this?
Well, I work with what THEY have. Not with what I have. They work with the budget they have. It's one night a week for ten weeks. If you know Frame6, there's nothing surprising in any other version. If I was an employer, I'd treat the students the same as those that learned on Frame8. Give them a quick test with one of my computers. If the school upgrades, I'll upgrade my materials. But really, it'll just be screenshots to change. The basics haven't changed one bit. And in the end, I'm really only doing it as a hobby. Two sessions in (one a year), and I doubt I'm even half way to minimum wage considering non-class hours. Eric On 9/21/07, John Sgammato wrote: > > >...Seems like I should pester the administration where I teach > Framemaker. > > They only have version 6. > > Then again, I'd have to revamp my course. lol. > > Not that it's any of my business, but ... > don't you think the school and the teacher should make the effort to get > at least to 7.2? > I don't know that I would consider a grad with Frame 6 skills a serious > competitor as far as tools go. > And as a potential student, I would not be impressed with a school that > teaches FrameMaker 6 today. > > john >
What's this?
And from the Horse's mouth: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions/clp.html On 9/21/07, Eric Dunn wrote: > > Looks like Bill is right. > > http://www.cdwg.com/shop/search/results.aspx?key=Adobe+FrameMaker+license&conorg=Education&filteredsortorder=PRICEASC&keymm=MatchAll&conagc=-1&platform=pc > > > Talk about complicated...
What's this?
Looks like Bill is right. http://www.cdwg.com/shop/search/results.aspx?key=Adobe+FrameMaker+license&conorg=Education&filteredsortorder=PRICEASC&keymm=MatchAll&conagc=-1&platform=pc Talk about complicated... On 9/21/07, Bill Swallow wrote: > > Looks like that's the media. You still need to buy a license key. ;) > > On 9/21/07, Kelly McDaniel wrote: > > > > > > I've found several reputable sites with prices close to this. What's up? > > Is this a full version? > > > > > > > > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/reviews.aspx?EDC=1267952&cm_sp=Product- > > _-Reviews-_-Main+Tab > > -- > Bill Swallow > HATT List Owner > WWP-Users List Owner > Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter > STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager > http://techcommdood.blogspot.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dunn.eric.l at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dunn.eric.l%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
What's this?
Would seem to be an educational license: >>License >> >>Agreement TermAll Terms >>CategoryLicense >>License TypeMedia Kits >>Licensing ProgramAdobe CLP - Education Media Kit and Doc Seems li,ke I should pester the administration where I teach Framemaker. They only have version 6. Then again, I'd have to revamp my course. lol. On 9/21/07, Kelly McDaniel wrote: > > > > I've found several reputable sites with prices close to this. What's up? > Is this a full version? > > > > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/reviews.aspx?EDC=1267952&cm_sp=Product- > _-Reviews-_-Main+Tab >
Re: PDF question
Why try to perform something difficult in Acrobat that is so simple Framemaker? Either two templates, On-Line and B&W Print, or simpler print one with "Spot Color as Black/White". If you don't want to distribute two PDFs, I remember Shlomo at MicroType had examples of PDFs with different screen and print formatting. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What's this?
Well, I work with what THEY have. Not with what I have. They work with the budget they have. It's one night a week for ten weeks. If you know Frame6, there's nothing surprising in any other version. If I was an employer, I'd treat the students the same as those that learned on Frame8. Give them a quick test with one of my computers. If the school upgrades, I'll upgrade my materials. But really, it'll just be screenshots to change. The basics haven't changed one bit. And in the end, I'm really only doing it as a hobby. Two sessions in (one a year), and I doubt I'm even half way to minimum wage considering non-class hours. Eric On 9/21/07, John Sgammato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >...Seems like I should pester the administration where I teach > Framemaker. > > They only have version 6. > > Then again, I'd have to revamp my course. lol. > > Not that it's any of my business, but ... > don't you think the school and the teacher should make the effort to get > at least to 7.2? > I don't know that I would consider a grad with Frame 6 skills a serious > competitor as far as tools go. > And as a potential student, I would not be impressed with a school that > teaches FrameMaker 6 today. > > john > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What's this?
And from the Horse's mouth: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions/clp.html On 9/21/07, Eric Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looks like Bill is right. > > http://www.cdwg.com/shop/search/results.aspx?key=Adobe+FrameMaker+license&conorg=Education&filteredsortorder=PRICEASC&keymm=MatchAll&conagc=-1&platform=pc > > > Talk about complicated... ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What's this?
Looks like Bill is right. http://www.cdwg.com/shop/search/results.aspx?key=Adobe+FrameMaker+license&conorg=Education&filteredsortorder=PRICEASC&keymm=MatchAll&conagc=-1&platform=pc Talk about complicated... On 9/21/07, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looks like that's the media. You still need to buy a license key. ;) > > On 9/21/07, Kelly McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I've found several reputable sites with prices close to this. What's up? > > Is this a full version? > > > > > > > > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/reviews.aspx?EDC=1267952&cm_sp=Product- > > _-Reviews-_-Main+Tab > > -- > Bill Swallow > HATT List Owner > WWP-Users List Owner > Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter > STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager > http://techcommdood.blogspot.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dunn.eric.l%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What's this?
Would seem to be an educational license: >>License >> >>Agreement TermAll Terms >>CategoryLicense >>License TypeMedia Kits >>Licensing ProgramAdobe CLP - Education Media Kit and Doc Seems li,ke I should pester the administration where I teach Framemaker. They only have version 6. Then again, I'd have to revamp my course. lol. On 9/21/07, Kelly McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've found several reputable sites with prices close to this. What's up? > Is this a full version? > > > > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/reviews.aspx?EDC=1267952&cm_sp=Product- > _-Reviews-_-Main+Tab > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Broken xrefs
A suggestion: Get and use the BookUtils plug-in. Or save as MIF and do find and replace searches to correct Xrefs.
Re: Broken xrefs
A suggestion: Get and use the BookUtils plug-in. Or save as MIF and do find and replace searches to correct Xrefs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Structured Frame Question
On 8/9/07, Mike Feimster wrote: > Now the book is valid, even > though the toc is an unstructured file. > IMO, this is an unfortunate failing of FM or simply a missing feature. FM should be able to produce structured generated files. could be perhaps accomplished by adding element information to the reference page building blocks. It's not too difficult to do using Framescript and I have done it for a couple of projects in the past.
Re: Structured Frame Question
On 8/9/07, Mike Feimster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now the book is valid, even > though the toc is an unstructured file. > IMO, this is an unfortunate failing of FM or simply a missing feature. FM should be able to produce structured generated files. could be perhaps accomplished by adding element information to the reference page building blocks. It's not too difficult to do using Framescript and I have done it for a couple of projects in the past. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How Do I Conditionalize an Entire File
On 8/2/07, Fred Ridder wrote: > You do it by building two different books that use all the > same files except for the cover. Or just have one book file with both covers. Select the relevant cover when printing.
Re: How Do I Conditionalize an Entire File
On 8/2/07, Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You do it by building two different books that use all the > same files except for the cover. Or just have one book file with both covers. Select the relevant cover when printing. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: mailmerge
"I use the mailmerge feature in Word to import variables such as the date of the report, the name of the product on which the report is based, the final score that the product achieved and so on... Is this something that I can do better using Framemaker?" Out-of-the-box, No. But, I've already written a FrameScript that assigns variable values based on an ini file. It would be relatively simple to work with a database, excel, or tab delimited file. I had started, but have not yet completed, a script to do something similar to Word's mail merge, creating a new document for each set of defined variables. With FrameScript, virtually anything is possible. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Creating a Checkbox (Forms) in Frame 7.2
For added safety, create a character format, and use the character format and character in a variable. That way the formatting won't be lost due to an inadvertent application of the default character format to the entire paragraph. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer "Art Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/23/2007 05:23:54 PM: > Assuming you're running Windows: > Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map. > > Find the empty and activated checkboxes you want to use by browsing > among your fonts. > > Use the Character Map to Select, and then copy-and-paste the > characters into FM. > > If, when you paste them in, they are converted to regular characters: > > In FM, create a new Character Tag with all settings AsIs except font > -- which you set to whatever font you picked as the source for your > checkboxes (Zapf Dingbat or Wingdings, for example). Highlight the > characters and apply the new Character Tag. > > Art ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Figure Numbering Problem
To address the initial problem: The only repair I have found that works is to rebuild the files anchored frames from the point at which the numbering is broken. To be extra sure, rebuild them all. Save a copy of your file, in the working file delete all anchored frames, then with the working file and copy side by side, create a new anchored frame for each in the copy. Use the copy only to get the graphic and text for the title. I've identified that it usually breaks when anchored frames containing text frames with numbered content are copied and pasted. At some point, FrameMaker gets confused as to which text frames to keep out of the numbering flow and which to include. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Figure Numbering Problem
"Lester C. Smalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/15/2007 04:24:11 PM: > Are any of the figures inside either another text frame, or a table? > > Numbering usually works extremely well, provided all the paragraph tags > are in the same text flow. Either of these instances creates a different > text flow and/or evaluation order of the numbering building blocks > (counters) that may account for the weird behavior. But... Here's some interesting behaviour: If a disconnected text frame is in an anchored frame, and the paragraph format contains the word "figure", it will autonumber. If the paragraph format does not, autonumbering is independent. If you update all the figure title paragraph formats to a new name, the currently linked and autonumbered paragraphs stay sequentially numbered as do new paragraphs in separate anchored and text frames. However, you sometimes see bizarre behaviour such as figure titles not incrementing or restarting or intermittently having to change the numbering for the first item in a legend to manually or by different paragraph tag. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: one more question -Fame vs. ArborText
"Allen, Richard (Raytheon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/01/2007 03:20:42 PM: > An XML document instance is void of formatting. Formatting is left to > the application, AT or FM or IE or... Yeah, but... You did say that was the short answer, and others have already chimed in that setting up applications in each environment is non-trivial. Thought I might chime in with an example: Define "formatting". For procedures, the numbering is important. So how do you perform the numbering? Allowing FM to autonumber works beautifully for works in progress and for FM output. But how to get the SAME numbering in the IEM? How to convey the same numbering to another authoring environment? Not trivial. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame vs Arbortext
Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/27/2007 05:19:00 AM: > At 11:46 -0700 26/4/07, Matt Sullivan wrote: > >These days, Frame can work directly with the XML, and storing as .fm is > >strictly optional. IMO, this undercuts much of AT's sales pitch. And the most annoying thing is that working 'natively' with XML is a red herring. Because the only thing that has changed is that when your workflow is to include FrameMaker functionality and strengths until delivering xml you name the file FileName.fm and if you want to always roundtrip you save the file as FileName.xml. The only difference is FrameMaker automatically assumes "Save-as" when the original file opened was FileName.xml. Big Deal. > If the [fairly imminent?] upcoming version of FrameMaker actually > turns out to be FrameMaker 8 and not FrameMaker 7.2-and-a-bit, it > seems likely that the developments will lean heavily in the > direction of XML support, and this will further erode what different > currently exists. And those differences are only in approach. I could only roll my eyes and turn up the sarcasm as an AT rep explained to me the "difficulties" of EDDs and of not working "natively" in XML. I was dismissive as possible when they couldn't find a comeback to my question about how does the complexity and "non-nativeness" of EDDs compare to the development of FOSIs and AT display and print engines. Pathetic really. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text in Variables? (Or, how would you do this...?)
Consider using Xrefs. I've found that documents containing abbreviations, terms, values, and the like and referenced as necessary make for very versatile and easily maintained FrameMaker documents. ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Third-party or "out of the box" plugins [was "re: Frame's future"]
Marcus Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/22/2007 10:46:17 PM: > For our mechanically gifted friend, I'd be > inclined to provide a graphic interface and a touch screen that let him > drill to the warp drive than compel him to hunt and peck on a toughened > keyboard. An index may have its place, but it's a much smaller home than > where it used to live. > Now what exactly is the difference between "hunt and peck" and "drill". And how is a toughened and oil covered touch-screen and more elegant than a toughened keyboard? It's poor form to use derogatory terminology for one option we don't support and positive terminology for the one we do. The statements also unveil a certain snobbery of IT superiority by denigrating those that work in other fields. Denigrate anything linked to the awful old hands-on industry and try to enlighten it with beautiful IT derived terms and symbology. Graphical interfaces have their advantages. And when applied where they are the best choice/toll for the application they're great. But a purely graphical interface is a poor option in terms of efficiency. The mouse has it's place, but for MANY actions keyboard shortcuts are the best option. And would you suggest the stupidity of a graphical only interface and touch-screen with the abomination of a touch-screen pop-up keyboard for data and text tasks? There is no "hunting or pecking" not "drilling" in either a well designed graphical interface or a well designed index if the thing being searched for is at the top level (say the engine). But, when searching for something more arcane down in the bowels, what is faster and more efficient? A bad paper index and a bad on-line index (or ghastly full-text search) may both list "hood" or "wrench". But only a good index (hardcopy or electronic) will quickly redirect you when you search for "bonnet" or "spanner". Drop the prejudice against indices as a hardcopy only issue and recognise that index information is useful metadata, regardless of how it is ultimately searched and presented. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Figure Numbering Problem
You won't like my answer, but it's the only solution I've found to the problem you describe. You need to make a copy of the file, delete all anchored frames, then open the copy and working file side by side. In the copy, use find to locate each anchored frame. For each anchored frame, create a NEW frame in the working file. Use drag-and-drop, to move the illustration/figure, create a NEW text frame, use copy paste to copy the caption. Repeat... To avoid the problem, you must NEVER copy an anchored frame. When all anchored frames are created individually, I have never seem this problem. But when anchored frames are copied, from my experience, it's only a matter of time until the file corrupts. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Continuous Numbering in FrameMaker
Sorry to chime in late. Here's how I've done it when I needed a documents page count elsewhere. A paragraph with a format called PageCount placed on A REFERENCE PAGE! Then you just put the page count variable as the only text. You then Xref to the last document in a book. No need for blank paragraphs or white text (which is selectable in a PDF. Yuck!). Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer "Tammy Van Boening" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/16/2006 05:19:54 PM: > Ok - a quick follow-up to this. For the "empty" paragraph tag, you need > some kind of source text for the paragraph to select for the x-ref, so > what I did was set up an auto-number format with the phrase > "TotalPageCount" and set the color to white so it doesn't show and I > have a cross-ref. format called TotalPageCount set to pick up only the > page number of the paragraph. I set this up on the master page footers > and it works like a charm. Thanks Fred. > > TVB > > > Tammy Van Boening > Engineering Technical Writer > InsureWorx > 303-729-7733 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Indexes - a bit off topic
ASI may have an official document out supporting indexes and differentiating between indexes and indices, but with all due respect, there is nothing wrong with using "indices" in any context. I have seen no dictionary or language authority that makes a differentiation in definition between the spellings. Secondly playing the grammarian on an e-mail list is usually bad netiquette. It's particularly fraught with danger when the audience of the list is international. The opinions of the ASI may carry little to no weight with the British, Canadian , or other equivalent national bodies. Just as the "preferred" spelling in dictionaries is more dependant on the nationality/locale of the publisher than it is of "correct" usage. Further more, their power over the individual is non-existent. As their opinions carry no weight out side their own organisations, no matter how they may pretend otherwise. I won't argue the pluses or minuses of "-exes" or "-ices". Only that I use "-ices" and try to spell consistently using "-our" and not simply "-or" except when writing for an American audience. When reading, I will flinch at neither. As long as the document is consistent in its usage. Just as the thread was progressing happily with both accepted and valid spellings without complaint. I also endeavour to teach my children to use kid, calf, gosling, chick, et al instead of baby . Same goes for murder, gaggle, and flock. Even if one day these usages/terms all fall from "preferred" dictionary status. Let's go back to discussing FrameMaker please... Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/27/2006 10:07:41 AM: > As a member of the American Society of Indexers (ASI), > I have to put in a plug for the word "indexes." > > This is the preferred spelling in most dictionaries > for the lists of terms with locators that are found, > ususally, in the backs of books. ASI also promotes the > use of "indexes" as the plural of "index." > > Likewise for appendix/appendixes. > > "Indices" is used by financial and meteorlogical > folks. I don't remember who uses "appendices" except > my colleagues who are thoroughly familiar with church > Latin. ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Two-column index
Another point to consider. What are the differences between the default right/left master pages and the index right/left master pages? If it is only the number of columns, consider this: have a two column layout on the default Left/Right master pages. Then, set all formats in the paragraph catalog to be "across all columns" except for those used to build the index. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Two-column index
Niels Fanøe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/27/2006 07:55:13 AM: > As far as I can see, there is no way of doing this. I can apply a > master page on the index heading, but that only covers the page on > which the heading is situated, not the subsequent pages. I made a > script which can reformat the text frame from a certain point > onwards, but since the document is part of a book, adding or > deleting pages elsewhere in the book will shift the whole thing - in > short, it's a nightmare to maintain! Firstly, you can apply master pages to all left and right pages after the index heading. The range indicator can be either Single, Span pages, or Until changed. As for Indices that are part of the flow. Ugh. Chapter page numbering would eliminate the problem. Multiple indices for a book that numbers the pages throughout seems bizarre. If the book must be page numbered sequentially throughout, I'd be tempted to build the indices by script and formed with Xrefs, not generated files with hyperlinks. At least then, once generated, changes to pages would be corrected with one update. Other than that, why are you "importing" the indices? The index files should just be included in the master book as well as the individual document book files used to generate them. Twice round with the generation should ensure that the page numbers are all correct. Just ensure that numbering and pagination etc are only updated in the master book and that the individual document book files only generate the index files. If the indices (or are we really talking about TOCs?) must be incorporated in the document files, use text insets. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: can ENTITY ImportedGraphic - be omitted?
Sorry if this isn't relevant. It has been a while since I was in the depths of structured documents, DTDs, EDDs, R/W, and the like. One thing that stumped me for a while was the creation of entities for graphics when they shouldn't have been. Turns out that if the userstring property (which was being set by a script as a means of tracking) is set to any value, FM creates an entity based on the value. Had to add a script to my workflow that eliminated all userstring values from all graphics/graphic elements. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: CMYK Images in Frame
Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/24/2006 04:39:40 AM: > When both the imported > Illustrator work and the FrameMaker files were combined and output > to PDF, the two 'different' colors appeared the same, and correct. Another tangent: Were either the Illustrator or FrameMaker displayed colours IDENTICAL to the printed output? I suspect both were "incorrect" in some regard. It's only the final deliverable colour that's important. And that's completely dependent on the device producing the output (except for the unfortunate content that gets mangled by the OS between colour spaces before output). I think that will account for display differences. CS2 applications use Adobes CMYK display filters. FrameMaker is stuck using Windows GDI (which is RGB). Analogy: The only important factor is the colour of the paint when it dries. NOT the colour when it's in the can, or still wet on the wall. I'll admit it is worrying painting cabinets a shockingly bright pink. But they dried to the nice dark red we were looking for. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Plugin to cleanout unused elements (resend)
If you want to remove ALL extraneous information, remove the entire catalogues from the MIF file using PERL. I'm not familiar with L10N company processes, but why can't they identify what is text and what is formatting? Translating even the used formats is pointless and counter-productive unless you're sending source files in a new language and want the template to be useable by others. There's something I don't quite understand here. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: CMYK Images in Frame
Framers wrote on 08/22/2006 03:52:23 PM: > The bottom line is I have a client who doesn't want to send his files out to > the printer but print them on a color printer. Welcome to the (hellish) world of colourmatching. Fussing with the colour on screen is virtually meaningless. If the two are supposed to be the same, they SHOULD be the same. If they are displaying differently, they undoubtedly are different and do need edited in image editing software. As for what exact colour is shown on screen and what is printed, well it depends on the strengths, weaknesses, and settings of each device (whether screen or printer). On a printer, the output will be affected by what paper and processes are used. If the colours used are selected using Pantone numbers or other matching system, you have the basis for the expectation that the final printed output is identical to the Pantone swatch. If the printer and media have been correctly colour matched. If the colours are being designed on-screen and you want your output to exactly match the on-screen colour, you have to colour match and adjust the display before doing colour work, colour match the printer, and know what the colour limitations of your devices are. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Newbie here with a TOC issue in Frame
"Sarah O'Keefe" wrote on 08/09/2006 03:07:05 PM: > Or possibly headings that reside in tables. Absolutely. But I shudder to think what Machiavellian template is built that way... Unless perhaps it's to get the effect of a shaded box. But as noted, that would destroy the usefulness of generated files. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Newbie here with a TOC issue in Frame
"Combs, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/09/2006 02:10:22 PM: > Are all the bits in the same connected text flow? The Symptom certainly seems to point to disconnected text flows. My guess would go further and suppose that the following items are in fact on the same page: The First Bit The Second Bit Chapter Title! I can't remember it correctly, but i believe that Frame generates for the Main Flow of the document first then each subsequent flow on a page. But, it may have to with the order of creation of the text frames. Try rebuilding the master page by creating the disconnected frame for the "Chapter Title!" first. Then creating the autoconnected text frame. Might work if you want to experiment. For a simpler fix, connect all the text frames. All you need to do is put a frame or sufficient space below the "Chapter Title!" to push all following content into the next text frame. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: how to change the papercolor in FM
How do you change the paper colour? By changing the paper in the printer. VBG! Except for the suggestion changing windows settings, all the artifices to change the background colour have the same danger. If you don't set it up with a colour that is set to not print, you'll end up with background colour printed on the entire page up to the printer margins. IMO, don't do it. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM won't create a second page
mathieu jacquet wrote on 08/04/2006 08:05:22 AM: >First : I was writing text on my first page and when I reached the bottom of >it, FM did not create a second page to write on but allowed me to write on >and on underneath the footer. Assuming you are not working in a table: In a nutshell, you'll have to fix your master pages and possibly work on making a decent template if you want to have a workable file. The problem is that you are typing in a text frame that does not autoconnect. Now, whether this is because you disconnected the frame, modified the text frame properties, or the master page is that way, only you can tell. mathieu jacquet wrote on 08/04/2006 08:05:22 AM: > Second : I inserted an anchored frame in the lowest cell of a table (bottom > of the page) and the same thing happened - the anchored frame inserted well, > but half of it (the lowest part) was invisible, below the footer once again. If you are in a table cell, that is normal behaviour for FrameMaker. Table rows do not break across pages. > First time I "added an unlinked page" (I don't really know how it's called > in the English version, it is "Ajouter des pages non connectées" in French) > but it does not satisfy me. Um, if you want text to flow from page to page you want to select the text frame on the first page, select the text frame on the second page, then select "Connect Text Frames" in the Format>Customise Layout menu. But, I'd be worried as to why your body page text isn't part of a flow in the first place... Best of luck, Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Anything similar to FormatPainter?
Nidhi, The quick and simple answer is that the function you are looking for can be found in the Edit menu: Edit > Copy Special > Paragraph Format Edit > Copy Special > Character Format The longer answer, IMO, depends on what you're doing with the function. Are you propagating named formats from the catalogue or are you propagating formatting overrides? If propagating formatting overrides, you simply shouldn't be. If you intent is to have consistent formatting, the definitions belong in the Paragraph and Character Catalogues as named formats. Then, there is no need to use Copy Special. Just use the catalogues, the formatting bar, or F9 to apply formats in your documents. Personally, I use the Copy Special mostly when changing paragraphs from one named format to another using the Find dialog set to "Find Paragraph Tag" and replace set to "By Pasting". But, I will use it to propagate new named paragraph formats. Character formatting should NEVER be propagated using Copy Special as the formatting from the insertion point is copied and not just the character tag formatting. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer nidhi khosla wrote on 08/04/2006 05:58:26 AM: > Hi, > I do not have much experience with Framemaker and > would like to know if there is a feature similar to > Format Painter in MS Word, basically to copy the > character/paragraph format of one entity to another. > Thanks > Nidhi ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: DITA and FrameMaker
Based on the descriptions and the sourceforge notes, it seems to me that the XMetal add-in is to simply use FrameMaker as a PDF output engine. The free Adobe plug-in that is due out shortly lets you use FrameMaker as your authoring environment. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table ofContents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"
"Joe Malin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/19/2006 06:18:24 PM: > My guess is that FM clears out the old > information as a "feature"; it only allows you to add paragraph tags > that are in your existing files, so it must first clear out everything > that was there from before. As I pointed out in my post to John, your guess is wrong. Nothing is stripped from a TOC file if it is renamed and included in a new book file. The TOC set-up is part of the book component properties. When generating a file, Frame for each generated file: 1 - looks for a correctly named file. 2 - If not found, creates a new empty file based on the first non-generated file in the book. Will also a reference with the required definitions. 3 - If found, opens the file and strips out all paragraphs with formats with suffixes matching the generated file (*TOC, *IOM, *LOT, *LOF). 4 - Based on the list of paragraphs or elements in the book component, Frame then builds the generated file. Note: Number 3 above makes for interesting observations. The new generated content is created in the same place as the deleted paragraphs. I'm not sure if it is the location of the first of the last deleted paragraph that determines the start point for the generated content, but you can have generated files with standard text at the beginning and end which frame will always leave alone when generating the file. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of Contents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"
Have to say I'm intrigued as to what possible purpose a TOC of a TOC would serve. But, the only way to automatically set-up a generated file would be to use FrameScript. Or Have a book set up with a TOC and other generated files as you want them, then use that "book template" to build new books. - Copy the template book, and associated generated files templates to a new location. - Open template book. - Save book with the new desired name. - Profit from a fully set-up book. You could even have "placeholder" book components set up correctly. Rename the placeholder components in the book to match the "real" files when building a new book. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer > -Original Message- > John Posada > Subject: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of > Contents"Include Paragraphs Tagged" > Hi, guys...sorry for the long subject line, but.. > OK...follow along..I have a book with 5 new files. They've had their > styles imported from a template file or previous product file. > When I generate a new TOC in the book, I get the Set Up Table of > Contents dialog, and all the styles appear in the Don't Include pane > on the right. What I'm trying to do is get the xxTOC styles to appear > on the left pane (Include Paragraphs tagged) without having to move > them over individualy. > How can I do this? > > John Posada > Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of Contents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/19/2006 05:14:23 PM: > 7) Highlight the file testTOC.fm, right click and select Set Up table > of Contents > No styleas are in the left side pane. > Why not? Both the formats to be selected in the TOC setup and the formats actually selected are part of the Book component. They are not part of the TOC file. So naturally, until you update a book for the first time to gather the list of all formats, there is nothing to select. And, if you copy a TOC from elsewhere, there are no formats selected. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Looking for a technique for applying conditionals
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/18/2006 05:05:52 PM: > However, I do agree about the problms with conditionalizing at the > word level...just hoping that someone will come out with an "ah HAH!" > technique. > John Posada > Senior Technical Writer As long as FrameMaker is limited to OR logic only for show/hide, I doubt there is an "ah HAH!" technique. :( If your number of conditions is limited enough, I've found that in many cases it is easier to rewrite and conditionalise paragraphs or at a minimum sentences to avoid word level conditions. But eventually, in my experience, every attempt and conditionalising becomes too complex very quickly. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement
Bill Briggs wrote on 06/29/2006 03:30:32 PM:
> At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
> >- If A, and then B
> >and
> >- If A and B
> From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures in
> programming languages the first variant would never be used; the
> "and" would simply not be there.
But it is how I would describe, in writing, the construct of nested Ifs:
If A
{DO THIS}
If B
{DO THIS}
EndIf
EndIf
Where there may be any amount of code, waiting or looping before you get
to the If B and indeed the end of the If A statement.
Or perhaps:
If A
{Wait for B} -- specified or indeterminate wait time
EndIf
Or perhaps:
{Wait for A}
If B
{DO THIS}
EndIf
In either of the above, A could become False at anytime after the test or
after the wait as the test for B and the execution of the related code is
not dependant on A.
The second one is simply
If (A) AND (B)
{DO THIS}
EndIf
perhaps an interesting side step into logic, but pretty irrelevant to the
thread.
Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer
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Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM: > If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the > constructs in any programming language that I can remember working > in. While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect to the addition of an AND clause to the sentence, I will pit nits and throw another view point into the mix. Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between: - If A, and then B and - If A and B The first implies a wait or sequence between events A and B. It does not imply that the events are simultaneous nor that they need to be maintained. If A happens, stops, then six months later B happens, the first statement is true. The second statement is true only while both events are happening (and they could start in any order). Secondly, Why does the sentence even contain "then" in the first place? (You don't even include THEN in If statements in many languages.) >From the original post: If , then . Why not: If , . Thirdly, as far as using "because we've always done it this way." as a reason, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The burden of proof is on the person suggesting a change. They must prove that their proposed change has demonstrable advantages over the old way. If they can prove benefit, only then is the old guard's complaint of "we've always done it this way." become irrelevant. It doesn't make you popular, but a simple "Choosing between two unsubstantiated choices, we'll stick with the way it's done." or "I understand you like it better that way, but we've already made a choice." are valid arguments against change. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: More on Generic Chapters
"Caroline Tabach" wrote on 06/25/2006 06:28:43 AM: > In order for the ToC to work the way we want (the words Appendix B will > appear before the chapter name, instead of chapter 5), they have a > heading tag, called AppendixHeading, when they appear as a chapter, they > have a different heading style, and the words chapter appear before the > chapter name in the ToC > How can I make it all work? Here's how I would approach the situation: What are the design differences between AppendixHeading and the chapter heading style? How are the styles used is each of the books? It is probable that you can account for the differences with a simple format import. Don't differentiate between the two styles in the format catalogues. Apply a format with the same name in both cases. Then, have a template for the chapters and a template for the appendices. Or, simply a MIFsnippet with the chapter definition of ChapterHeading and another with MIFsnippet with the appendix definition of ChapterHeading. Before generating/updating, import formats from the chapter template (or snippet) into all chapter files and import formats from the appendix template (or snippet) into all appendix files. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Generating lists for review
Perhaps a generated alphabetic list of markers could be used. Place a marker (choose a type) at the beginning of each topic containing the reviewer's name. Or rethink your production process. Perhaps you should produce files with one topic per file and build custom books for each reviewer. Or even not create books but manage each file/topic lifecycle individually. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Figure number updating
Eric Dunn wrote on 06/19/2006 09:44:37 AM: > While autoconnect was selected, it doesn't mean the current frame and next > similarly tagged frame are connected. Autoconnect will only cause > FrameMaker to create a new page should content in the current text frame > overflow. Just a quick note: It should be easy to spot disconnected frames. Turn on View>Text Symbols and look for end of flow characters. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Figure number updating
Well, the text was imported from Word. That explains EVERYTHING. lol :D Should have thought about disconnected text frames myself. While autoconnect was selected, it doesn't mean the current frame and next similarly tagged frame are connected. Autoconnect will only cause FrameMaker to create a new page should content in the current text frame overflow. Next time, you can connect two frames by selecting each frame in turn and choosing File>Customize Layout>Connect Text Frames. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer "Patricia Carmel" wrote on 06/19/2006 10:39:45 AM: > There was a disconnect between my first page, where the first figure > appeared and the next page, where the second figure appeared, which > is why the second figure thought it was the first one. The question > was why: Autoconnect was selected and the tag letter between the > frames was consistent. ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Figure number updating
"Patricia Carmel" wrote on 06/18/2006 10:20:43 AM: > Now I find that in every chapter in this guide, > there are two Figure x-1s. Hopefully, the problem is due to numbering series. How is the autonumber string defined? What other series are used in the documents? How are the captions created? Unfortunately, I have experienced numbering problems if the caption is a text frame within the anchored frame. If the anchored frames are copied, and not created from scratch, the numbering sequence eventually breaks. But for that to happen in ALL your files seems bizarre. Unless all the files were started from a common copy... Perhaps with more details we can be of more help. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Typesetter needed
What exactly is a FrameMaker "typesetter"? And, why the absolute need for on-site availability? If , as it seems, the job is to apply styles and paginate text in a FrameMaker template, anyone anywhere should be able to complete the project. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer "Celine Buerkli" wrote on 06/16/2006 03:47:45 PM: > Dear Framers - > I am urgently looking for Framers that are skilled in typesetting > and could come to work on a project in the LA area pretty > immediately for 5-10 days project! > Are you skilled in Frame Maker and typography and are available for > a project? Or do you know any freelancer that would? > I am really in need of help and looking forward to hear from you! > Please contact me as soon as possible! > Celine > Tel. 323 462 2140 or 323 462 0758 ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding Pages?]
"David Bills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/10/2006 04:50:57 AM: > The point I'm attempting to make is that large departments, particularly > those that weigh specialized technical skills and experience higher than > desktop publishing skills, should factor the Frame capabilities of their > less skilled Frame users into these types of decisions. And employees, who value their jobs and take professional pride in their work should be able to learn to do something fairly simple like making Xrefs. But I understand your concern. Some people just can't 'get' certain ways of working. But, IMO, it is the place of management to set the minimum expectations and discipline accordingly. Actually, if your Xrefs were breaking it was probably more to do with the setup than the writers. No amount of training will help a Frame user keep Xrefs connected if the path includes a drive root. Those will break eventually no matter how hard you try. But, all limitations in that regard can be overcome with either the BookUtils plug-in or an in-house script. It can be as simple as each file having a copy of the nomenclature file copied locally so that all links are relative and immediate. The Xrefs then simply need to be pointed to the central file for production or copies of the central file placed with the working files. However you maintain and/or store the target files, maintaining and resolving the Xrefs should be quite simple to do. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Variables vs Cross-references [WAS: Hiding Pages?]
Rene Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/09/2006 04:43:01 PM: > Changing to text destroys the purpose of using the xref (e.g., one-stop > updating/changes). You only do it just before creating the PDF. You don't save the documents. So, there's no loss of functionality in the FrameMaker working files... Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Variables vs Cross-references [WAS: Hiding Pages?]
"Combs, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/09/2006 01:09:11 PM: > I deliver primarily PDFs, and I wouldn't use xrefs in this way because > they'd become working hyperlinks in the PDFs. Ugh! Not a problem. You just change all those Xrefs into text and all is good. The Xref formats used for the purpose of terminology are used ONLY for terminology... Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing text insets
Sounds like a job for FrameScript... Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/09/2006 12:03:18 PM: > Is there a way import text insets by dragging and dropping them into > an open Frame document? It's irritating to have to jump through the > menu hoops when you have a large number of files to import. > --Doug ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding Pages?]
The text content of a cross-reference is limited by what you can build using the Xref building blocks. It may be possible to have a Xref that produces multiple paragraphs (Using \R in the def?) but I doubt it would be workable. But to combine multiple paragraphs, you need to have information that's consistently tagged and organised. Then, it's only really workable to create strings as I have done. For multiple paras, I'd stick to insets. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/09/2006 10:41:06 AM: > No...I've imported documents that were hundreds of pages long into > another document. > Of course, everything has a limit...maybe a million pages might be a > problem? > > than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert > > with a cross reference? My introductions often are two or three > > paragraphs. > > John Posada > Senior Technical Writer > "So long and thanks for all the fish." > ___ ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Variables vs Cross-references [WAS: Hiding Pages?]
"Ridder, Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/08/2006 11:57:39 AM: > In a situation where only the name changes, I find that it is *much* > more maintainable to use a variable for the product name because > you only have to make a change in one place (the variable's value > definition) when one of the names changes or when a new variant > is added to the list. Personally, I don't like conditional text. Usually it gets far too complex very quickly and you're hobbled by the limitation of OR logic for overlapping conditions. But, are variables the right answer? Why not Xrefs instead? Perhaps this idea isn't terribly Earth shattering, but it came to me in a flash and I've been using it successfully for some time now. The idea struck me as more of a 'DUH' kind of realisation when I implemented it, but after giving a FrameMaker class, I was amazed at how foreign the idea seemed to so many. The situation was this: hundreds of components, multiple ways of writing their descriptions, abbreviations, and specifications which led to an unmanageable mass of variables. So, I turned to cross-references. A stand-alone document contains a three column table. Column 1 - CB Number Column 2 - CB Placard Column 3 - Complete description ex: CB1 LIGHTINGCB1, LIGHTING Three cross-reference formats are used: 1 - CBNumber 2 - CBPlacard 3 - CBPlacard (Num) So, depending on the requirements I can include CB1, LIGHTING, or LIGHTING (CB1) in my documentation. If the placard or information changes, I change the source document and that's it. A generate update of all books ensures the data is correct. I've actually begun using the same approach for terms and equipment names. Any text that needs to maintain consistency is grouped with like terms in a file. So three HUGE advantages IMO. First, no need to maintain a MIF snippet of variables or using a script/plug-in to import user variables only (because invariably, one or more of the system variables are defined differently for different sections/files). Second, instead of hundreds of variables, I have 3 Xref formats. Third, generating and updating is already a step in the publishing process. So, the step of importing variables is skipped and not there to be forgotten. What are the downsides? Well, so far nothing. But I have an itch in the back of my skull concerning Xrefs and character formatting that I just can't shake. Something as to whether character formatting applied in the source (all character tagging is done using catalogue formats common to source and destination) is kept in the destination or not... Anyone know what I should be worrying about? Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: anchored frame import defaults
Paul Findon wrote on 05/24/2006 01:11:11 PM: > I usually copy and paste an anchored frame that already has the > settings I want, delete what's in it, then import the new graphic. > Paul DANGER! Copying anchored frames may result in numbering madness. Well, in our case, anchored frames include text frames for the captions. Occasionally, copying the frames results in a file with broken numbering. Ultimately, the only fix is to recreate all frames from the scratch from the position at which the numbering breaks. Saving to MIF doesn't seem to work. To eliminate the drudgery of inserting frames, try FrameScript Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
Excellent post Dan. Your post was exactly what I wanted (but was too lazy) to post as soon as I saw the original post about numbering. Far too often I see "technical" writers complaining about layout, format, or organisation because they simply "don't like it" or "it doesn't look right". And then justifying their whole scale design changes on their limited exposure to one limited field of techwriting and techwriters. Anyone who will redesign a document or glibly dismiss existing standards or traditions simply for what "looks better" without researching the issue and reasons for the style or getting solid evidence the current usage either hinders production or user understanding without providing benefits to at least a subset of users doesn't really deserve the title of "technical" IMO. While technical documents need not forgo good design, they should not forgo function for the sake of design. Reluctantly submitting to the style guide and complaining it's only "because the engineers want it that way" is little better. As technical writers, we owe it to our audiences to understand their needs and requirements as well as the technical information we are trying to convey. Sometimes too, it requires the humility to understand that the system/layout you don't like may have no logical or relevant reason behind it, but not liking it is just as baseless a decision. In the event of conflicting arbitrary decisions, continuing with the current standard for consistency is usually the way to go. So, if you want to make a change, you need not prove the previous method wrong, but prove the new method superior. Daniel Emory wrote on 05/17/2006 10:36:11 PM: > Even relatively simple on-line help docs should have > some sort of numbering scheme. Typically, users who > can't figure out something from the on-line help will > resort to a customer help line or in-house expert. If > the user can give the help specialist the number of > the particular on-line help content where the user is > stuck, ambiguity is eliminated, a successful > resolution of the problem is more likely, and the time > to arrive at the correct solution is likely to be > minimized. Too true. If the numbers wouldn't describe structure, even a random number (the internal help topic number?) that could be made visible would make referencing, commenting, and updating the system much simpler. Or, in my experience, the user may be able to stop travelling a circular path of references a little sooner if the organisational structure of the help file was more apparent. Perhaps the numbering may even avoid confusion between two similar yet subtly different topics. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ (See attached file: C.htm) Excellent post Dan. Your post was exactly what I wanted (but was too lazy) to post as soon as I saw the original post about numbering. Far too often I see "technical" writers complaining about layout, format, or organisation because they simply "don't like it" or "it doesn't look right". And then justifying their whole scale design changes on their limited exposure to one limited field of techwriting and techwriters. Anyone who will redesign a document or glibly dismiss existing standards or traditions simply for what "looks better" without researching the issue and reasons for the style or getting solid evidence the current usage either hinders production or user understanding without
Re: conditions within variables
> Is it possible to do a condition within a variable (just like you do a > character format within a variable)? I have a master document which I > have to save into 4 different customer docs. Each customer has its own > condition. Each doc has to have a different part number due to document > control, and the part number has to be on every page so naturally, I > made the part number a variable. > I would love to be able to do something in the variable definition box > like: > 025574025575025576 > with being the condition name. > Is there a way to do that? Think outside the box: Instead, use cross-references. The document that contains the text (part numbers in this case) can then be conditionalised. Personally, I've started using cross-references extensively. Much easier to maintain a limited number of Xref formats and a document chock full of referenceable data than it is to manage numerous variables. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Some Table Questions
Well, wouldn't you know it. I have to teach tables in FrameMaker and I end up looking foolish. It used to be that the sort function only sorted text and markers were lost. When was that oversight corrected? Because when I demonstrated the function, markers stayed with their paragraphs. Also, for table formatting. Is there any way to copy custom shading and ruling from one cell to another? Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Content Management (was Anyone used Tortoise CVS with Frame Files)
Laura Lemay wrote on 03/16/2006 11:07:06 AM: > My experience with MIF is that for the purposes of source code control > it is the worst of both ascii and binary. MIF files may be ASCII but > they are really huge, and a significant part of the file is different > between saves in FM even if you only make small changes. Which is why in my post I included: >>Now if you were to save MIF files to a versioning system, it would be a >>good exercise to see how much of the MIF could be eliminated before >>committing to the versioning system. The minimal MIF needed for a complete FM document is all that needs to be checked into any versioning system. Removing all Template components, line breaks, unique IDs, and a whole slew of other data from the MIF file results in a much smaller and more appropriate versioning content. My beef with FM is that you can't select MIF options when saving. But some PERL scripting or XSL and MIFML could take you a long way. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Content Management (was Anyone used Tortoise CVS with Frame Files)
> At 05:41 AM 3/15/2006, Donald.M.Rinderknecht wrote: > >Also, instead of using binary files, would it be possible to use MIF or, > >if in a completely structured environment, XML in the CVS to keep track of > >differences down to the 'element' level? The "but if your XML documents round-trip" that Lynne mentioned can be a very big but and might be a pretty big hurdle. As for MIF, a search of the archives might result in one members analysis of the bloat in file size caused by MIF and at what point saving diffs of MIF files is advantageous over saving whole binary versions. Now if you were to save MIF files to a versioning system, it would be a good exercise to see how much of the MIF could be eliminated before committing to the versioning system. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Duplicate IDs when Saving as XML
Joe Malin wrote on 03/02/2006 01:37:44 PM: > I don't know a way to find the duplicate ids offhand. sorry! At the end of my first big SGML project I learned that lesson the hard way as well. Fortunately, it wasn't difficult to script a solution with FrameScript. ;) Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditions for paragraph tags?
Annu Rantamäki wrote on 02/28/2006 09:05:26 AM: > We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph > tags, Not possible to do automatically, but you can do it in a Find/Replace. Apply the desired conditions to one paragraph, copy special>conditional format, and then search for the paragraph tag with replace by pasting selected. HTH, Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
