RE: Creating hyperlink to PDF
All ~ Searching my local Framers archives for a solution to my problem, I came up with this thread. I've been using the message openfile hypertext marker for years with complete success. When I convert my doc to a pdf, the linkage worked just fine. But not in Windows 7 as far as I can determine. When I take exactly the same file, with exactly the same TCS2 newly installed in Win7, all those links are gone in my pdf distillation of the file. I've reinstalled Acrobat and updated it from itself without success. Anyone else experience this or have a suggestion of some magic switch I should know about? ~ Bill -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:49 PM To: Nina Rogers Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Creating hyperlink to PDF Nina, You wrote: I am trying to create a hyperlink to a PDF. Basically, when the user clicks the link, I want a separate PDF file to open. I'm working in FrameMaker 7, but the finished document will be published as a PDF. ... The PDF I want to link is located in a folder on our network, not on a website; otherwise, I'd use the Go to URL command from Special Hypertext. A generic link to an external PDF can be created using the built-in FM hypertext marker: message openfile path/filename.pdf The target PDF will open at the default opening page; new window or same window applied according to the local Acrobat/Reader preference. Other hypertext markers (gotolink/gotopage or openlink/openpage) can be translated to a similar link upon conversion to PDF, but link validity/success may be dependent on other factors (e.g. authoring application for the target PDF being FM, specific destinations/page numbers present, chapter vs. book file issues). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bfetz...@amsc.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bfetzner%40amsc.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify American Superconductor Corporation immediately by replying to this message or by sending a message to postmas...@amsc.com and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Xref marker following Text inset
Another way to isolate adjacent markers without changing the text is to put the cursor at the back of the second of the two markers. Then hit shift-left arrow to move the cursor one character back (same process you might use to extend the range of highlighted text, one character at a time). Of course you can start from the other side of the adjacent markers and use shift-right arrow. ~ Bill -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:03 AM To: mathieu jacquet; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Xref marker following Text inset mathieu jacquet wrote: Here is my problem: I have a number of text insets, in a file, for which the character immediately following the inset is a X-ref marker. When updating the text inset, the marker disappears, leading to an unresolved X-ref problem afterwards. How would you manage that? I tried cutting the marker to paste it elsewhere (for example one character to the right) in my reference, but I cannot even select it, the whole text inset is highlighted then. Are you sure the marker is part of the container document, not the text inset? If so, put the insertion point to the right of the marker. Use the left arrow key to move it between the marker and the text inset. Then press Crtrl-space to insert a non-breaking space between the two. Then, if you wish, you should be able to select and cut the marker. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bfetz...@amsc.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bfetzner%40amsc.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify American Superconductor Corporation immediately by replying to this message or by sending a message to postmas...@amsc.com and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Creating hyperlink to PDF
Winfried ~ Here's what I've found out. To answer your question, yes it does work that way. Also works when I create a viewable document. The problem seems to be with Acrobat, and only when creating files not when reading them, i.e. I have pdf files that I created under XP that still contain active links when checked under Win7. Acrobat still thinks the link to external files is valid because it shows the little hand cursor when hovering over it, but the link doesn't work. All x-refs within the pdf book, however, seem to work for a book created under Win7. Even a message URL to an website link works like before. The only thing broken under my Win7 environment appears to be the Message copyfile links that go to my local external files and folders. My copy of Acrobat Pro Extended is fully patched at version 9.4.5. I've searched the Adobe site and also a did wide ranging searches on the Web without turning up anything. Could it be that nobody else knows about this incompatibility issue? ~ Bill -Original Message- From: Reng, Dr. Winfried [mailto:wr...@tycoint.com] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:31 AM To: Fetzner, Bill; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: AW: Creating hyperlink to PDF Hi Bill, Does the link work in FrameMaker (CTRL + ALT and then click on the link)? How do you create the PDF? If you print to a PostScript file or to a PDF, have you activated Generate Acrobat Data? Best regards Winfried -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] Im Auftrag von Fetzner, Bill Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2011 16:54 An: Shlomo Perets; Nina Rogers Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Betreff: RE: Creating hyperlink to PDF All ~ Searching my local Framers archives for a solution to my problem, I came up with this thread. I've been using the message openfile hypertext marker for years with complete success. When I convert my doc to a pdf, the linkage worked just fine. But not in Windows 7 as far as I can determine. When I take exactly the same file, with exactly the same TCS2 newly installed in Win7, all those links are gone in my pdf distillation of the file. I've reinstalled Acrobat and updated it from itself without success. Anyone else experience this or have a suggestion of some magic switch I should know about? ~ Bill -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:49 PM To: Nina Rogers Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Creating hyperlink to PDF Nina, You wrote: I am trying to create a hyperlink to a PDF. Basically, when the user clicks the link, I want a separate PDF file to open. I'm working in FrameMaker 7, but the finished document will be published as a PDF. ... The PDF I want to link is located in a folder on our network, not on a website; otherwise, I'd use the Go to URL command from Special Hypertext. A generic link to an external PDF can be created using the built-in FM hypertext marker: message openfile path/filename.pdf The target PDF will open at the default opening page; new window or same window applied according to the local Acrobat/Reader preference. Other hypertext markers (gotolink/gotopage or openlink/openpage) can be translated to a similar link upon conversion to PDF, but link validity/success may be dependent on other factors (e.g. authoring application for the target PDF being FM, specific destinations/page numbers present, chapter vs. book file issues). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify American Superconductor Corporation immediately by replying to this message or by sending a message to postmas...@amsc.com and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Creating hyperlink to PDF
Update on this Frame-Acrobat problem. I visited Adobe.com and looked for a trial version of an update. While there, a nice sales lady invited me to chat, and not finding any other way to discuss this issue with any other Adobe employee, I took her up on it. Explained my problem, and after a wait of several minutes she came back that TCS2 is incompatible with Win7 and suggesting I update to TCS3. Rather than that, I asked her for assurance that I could run either Frame10 with TCS2 or Acrobat X with TCS2, and she said aye in both cases (I translated the aye). I downloaded a trial of Acrobat X, accepting its suggestion that it uninstall Acrobat 9 from my TCS2, then started testing. It seemed to work okay with TCS2 but haven't extensively tested that. What DID work was the links that wouldn't work when I generated a pdf from Frame before. Problem solved, or so it appears. Later, I found out that the pdf that lacked the valid links in Win7 would have them in another computer running XP and version 9.4.5 of Acrobat. It appears, therefore, that there is an incompatibility between Acrobat 9 running under Win7 such that message openfile links that it creates won't work under Win7, but will work under XP. Go figure. Thought someone might find some value in all of this. ~ Bill -Original Message- From: Reng, Dr. Winfried [mailto:wr...@tycoint.com] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:31 AM To: Fetzner, Bill; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: AW: Creating hyperlink to PDF Hi Bill, Does the link work in FrameMaker (CTRL + ALT and then click on the link)? How do you create the PDF? If you print to a PostScript file or to a PDF, have you activated Generate Acrobat Data? Best regards Winfried -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] Im Auftrag von Fetzner, Bill Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2011 16:54 An: Shlomo Perets; Nina Rogers Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Betreff: RE: Creating hyperlink to PDF All ~ Searching my local Framers archives for a solution to my problem, I came up with this thread. I've been using the message openfile hypertext marker for years with complete success. When I convert my doc to a pdf, the linkage worked just fine. But not in Windows 7 as far as I can determine. When I take exactly the same file, with exactly the same TCS2 newly installed in Win7, all those links are gone in my pdf distillation of the file. I've reinstalled Acrobat and updated it from itself without success. Anyone else experience this or have a suggestion of some magic switch I should know about? ~ Bill -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:49 PM To: Nina Rogers Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Creating hyperlink to PDF Nina, You wrote: I am trying to create a hyperlink to a PDF. Basically, when the user clicks the link, I want a separate PDF file to open. I'm working in FrameMaker 7, but the finished document will be published as a PDF. ... The PDF I want to link is located in a folder on our network, not on a website; otherwise, I'd use the Go to URL command from Special Hypertext. A generic link to an external PDF can be created using the built-in FM hypertext marker: message openfile path/filename.pdf The target PDF will open at the default opening page; new window or same window applied according to the local Acrobat/Reader preference. Other hypertext markers (gotolink/gotopage or openlink/openpage) can be translated to a similar link upon conversion to PDF, but link validity/success may be dependent on other factors (e.g. authoring application for the target PDF being FM, specific destinations/page numbers present, chapter vs. book file issues). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify American Superconductor Corporation immediately by replying to this message or by sending a message to postmas...@amsc.com and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Creating hyperlink to PDF
Winfried ~ Here's what I've found out. To answer your question, yes it does work that way. Also works when I create a viewable document. The problem seems to be with Acrobat, and only when creating files not when reading them, i.e. I have pdf files that I created under XP that still contain active links when checked under Win7. Acrobat still thinks the link to external files is valid because it shows the little hand cursor when hovering over it, but the link doesn't work. All x-refs within the pdf book, however, seem to work for a book created under Win7. Even a "message URL" to an website link works like before. The only thing broken under my Win7 environment appears to be the "Message copyfile" links that go to my local external files and folders. My copy of Acrobat Pro Extended is fully patched at version 9.4.5. I've searched the Adobe site and also a did wide ranging searches on the Web without turning up anything. Could it be that nobody else knows about this incompatibility issue? ~ Bill -Original Message- From: Reng, Dr. Winfried [mailto:wr...@tycoint.com] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:31 AM To: Fetzner, Bill; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: AW: Creating hyperlink to PDF Hi Bill, Does the link work in FrameMaker (CTRL + ALT and then click on the link)? How do you create the PDF? If you print to a PostScript file or to a PDF, have you activated "Generate Acrobat Data"? Best regards Winfried > -Urspr?ngliche Nachricht- > Von: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] Im Auftrag von Fetzner, Bill > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2011 16:54 > An: Shlomo Perets; Nina Rogers > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Betreff: RE: Creating hyperlink to PDF > > All ~ > Searching my local Framers archives for a solution to my problem, I came up > with this thread. I've been using the "message openfile hypertext marker for > years with complete success. When I convert my doc to a pdf, the linkage > worked just fine. But not in Windows 7 as far as I can determine. When I take > exactly the same file, with exactly the same TCS2 newly installed in Win7, all > those links are gone in my pdf distillation of the file. I've reinstalled > Acrobat > and updated it from itself without success. Anyone else experience this or > have a suggestion of some magic switch I should know about? > ~ Bill > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:49 PM > To: Nina Rogers > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Creating hyperlink to PDF > > Nina, > > You wrote: > > >I am trying to create a hyperlink to a PDF. Basically, when the user > >clicks the link, I want a separate PDF file to open. I'm working in > >FrameMaker 7, but the finished document will be published as a PDF. ... > > > >The PDF I want to link is located in a folder on our network, not on a > >website; otherwise, I'd use the Go to URL command from Special > > >Hypertext. > > > A generic link to an external PDF can be created using the built-in FM > hypertext marker: > message openfile path/filename.pdf > > The target PDF will open at the default opening page; "new window" or > "same > window" applied according to the local Acrobat/Reader preference. > > Other hypertext markers (gotolink/gotopage or openlink/openpage) can be > translated to a similar link upon conversion to PDF, but link > validity/success may be dependent on other factors (e.g. authoring > application for the target PDF being FM, specific destinations/page numbers > present, chapter vs. book file issues). > > > Shlomo Perets > > MicroType, http://www.microtype.com > FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat > TimeSavers/Assistants ?This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify American Superconductor Corporation immediately by replying to this message or by sending a message to postmaster at amsc.com and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.?
Creating hyperlink to PDF
Update on this Frame-Acrobat problem. I visited Adobe.com and looked for a trial version of an update. While there, a nice sales lady invited me to chat, and not finding any other way to discuss this issue with any other Adobe employee, I took her up on it. Explained my problem, and after a wait of several minutes she came back that TCS2 is incompatible with Win7 and suggesting I update to TCS3. Rather than that, I asked her for assurance that I could run either Frame10 with TCS2 or Acrobat X with TCS2, and she said "aye" in both cases (I translated the "aye"). I downloaded a trial of Acrobat X, accepting its suggestion that it uninstall Acrobat 9 from my TCS2, then started testing. It seemed to work okay with TCS2 but haven't extensively tested that. What DID work was the links that wouldn't work when I generated a pdf from Frame before. Problem solved, or so it appears. Later, I found out that the pdf that lacked the valid links in Win7 would have them in another computer running XP and version 9.4.5 of Acrobat. It appears, therefore, that there is an incompatibility between Acrobat 9 running under Win7 such that message openfile links that it creates won't work under Win7, but will work under XP. Go figure. Thought someone might find some value in all of this. ~ Bill -Original Message- From: Reng, Dr. Winfried [mailto:wr...@tycoint.com] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:31 AM To: Fetzner, Bill; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: AW: Creating hyperlink to PDF Hi Bill, Does the link work in FrameMaker (CTRL + ALT and then click on the link)? How do you create the PDF? If you print to a PostScript file or to a PDF, have you activated "Generate Acrobat Data"? Best regards Winfried > -Urspr?ngliche Nachricht- > Von: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] Im Auftrag von Fetzner, Bill > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2011 16:54 > An: Shlomo Perets; Nina Rogers > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Betreff: RE: Creating hyperlink to PDF > > All ~ > Searching my local Framers archives for a solution to my problem, I came up > with this thread. I've been using the "message openfile hypertext marker for > years with complete success. When I convert my doc to a pdf, the linkage > worked just fine. But not in Windows 7 as far as I can determine. When I take > exactly the same file, with exactly the same TCS2 newly installed in Win7, all > those links are gone in my pdf distillation of the file. I've reinstalled > Acrobat > and updated it from itself without success. Anyone else experience this or > have a suggestion of some magic switch I should know about? > ~ Bill > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:49 PM > To: Nina Rogers > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Creating hyperlink to PDF > > Nina, > > You wrote: > > >I am trying to create a hyperlink to a PDF. Basically, when the user > >clicks the link, I want a separate PDF file to open. I'm working in > >FrameMaker 7, but the finished document will be published as a PDF. ... > > > >The PDF I want to link is located in a folder on our network, not on a > >website; otherwise, I'd use the Go to URL command from Special > > >Hypertext. > > > A generic link to an external PDF can be created using the built-in FM > hypertext marker: > message openfile path/filename.pdf > > The target PDF will open at the default opening page; "new window" or > "same > window" applied according to the local Acrobat/Reader preference. > > Other hypertext markers (gotolink/gotopage or openlink/openpage) can be > translated to a similar link upon conversion to PDF, but link > validity/success may be dependent on other factors (e.g. authoring > application for the target PDF being FM, specific destinations/page numbers > present, chapter vs. book file issues). > > > Shlomo Perets > > MicroType, http://www.microtype.com > FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat > TimeSavers/Assistants ?This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify American Superconductor Corporation immediately by replying to this message or by sending a message to postmaster at amsc.com and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.?
Creating hyperlink to PDF
All ~ Searching my local Framers archives for a solution to my problem, I came up with this thread. I've been using the "message openfile hypertext marker for years with complete success. When I convert my doc to a pdf, the linkage worked just fine. But not in Windows 7 as far as I can determine. When I take exactly the same file, with exactly the same TCS2 newly installed in Win7, all those links are gone in my pdf distillation of the file. I've reinstalled Acrobat and updated it from itself without success. Anyone else experience this or have a suggestion of some magic switch I should know about? ~ Bill -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:49 PM To: Nina Rogers Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Creating hyperlink to PDF Nina, You wrote: >I am trying to create a hyperlink to a PDF. Basically, when the user >clicks the link, I want a separate PDF file to open. I'm working in >FrameMaker 7, but the finished document will be published as a PDF. ... > >The PDF I want to link is located in a folder on our network, not on a >website; otherwise, I'd use the Go to URL command from Special > >Hypertext. A generic link to an external PDF can be created using the built-in FM hypertext marker: message openfile path/filename.pdf The target PDF will open at the default opening page; "new window" or "same window" applied according to the local Acrobat/Reader preference. Other hypertext markers (gotolink/gotopage or openlink/openpage) can be translated to a similar link upon conversion to PDF, but link validity/success may be dependent on other factors (e.g. authoring application for the target PDF being FM, specific destinations/page numbers present, chapter vs. book file issues). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bfetzner at amsc.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bfetzner%40amsc.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ?This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify American Superconductor Corporation immediately by replying to this message or by sending a message to postmaster at amsc.com and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.?
Xref marker following Text inset
Another way to isolate adjacent markers without changing the text is to put the cursor at the back of the second of the two markers. Then hit shift-left arrow to move the cursor one character back (same process you might use to extend the range of highlighted text, one character at a time). Of course you can start from the other side of the adjacent markers and use shift-right arrow. ~ Bill -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:03 AM To: mathieu jacquet; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Xref marker following Text inset mathieu jacquet wrote: > Here is my problem: I have a number of text insets, in a file, for > which the character immediately following the inset is a X-ref marker. > > When updating the text inset, the marker disappears, leading to an > unresolved X-ref problem afterwards. > > How would you manage that? I tried cutting the marker to paste it > elsewhere (for example one character to the right) in my reference, but > I cannot even select it, the whole text inset is highlighted then. Are you sure the marker is part of the container document, not the text inset? If so, put the insertion point to the right of the marker. Use the left arrow key to move it between the marker and the text inset. Then press Crtrl-space to insert a non-breaking space between the two. Then, if you wish, you should be able to select and cut the marker. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bfetzner at amsc.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bfetzner%40amsc.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ?This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify American Superconductor Corporation immediately by replying to this message or by sending a message to postmaster at amsc.com and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.?
RE: Outsourcing: Was Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Bureeda opines: And I agree that I don't see a lot of profits passed on to consumers (refer to your local gas pump for more info). To me this gets us back to the original proposition, that the loss of jobs can be compensated by an increase in value. Not always of course, as one or more others argue, but in a thriving economy (like the one we're now witnessing in our off-shoring society), that's more likely than not to happen. As for profits lining owner's pockets, that's not such a bad thing when you own a share or more of the company as many of our neighbors do. That makes ownership a good thing, as more than one politician insists. Let's not lose sight of the fact that value has many meanings, one of which is the best compromise between quality and price. For given quality if the business lowers the cost, it enhances the value to the consumer. And what's wrong with benefiting consumers? ~ Bill ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Outsourcing: Was Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Bureeda opines: <> To me this gets us back to the original proposition, that the loss of jobs can be compensated by an increase in value. Not always of course, as one or more others argue, but in a thriving economy (like the one we're now witnessing in our "off-shoring" society), that's more likely than not to happen. As for profits lining owner's pockets, that's not such a bad thing when you own a share or more of the company as many of our neighbors do. That makes ownership a good thing, as more than one politician insists. Let's not lose sight of the fact that value has many meanings, one of which is the best compromise between quality and price. For given quality if the business lowers the cost, it enhances the value to the consumer. And what's wrong with benefiting consumers? ~ Bill
