script or software for batch updating of files to version 10

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

There was an ?ExtendScript of the Week? that might be a good starting point:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/10/extendscript-of-the-week-create-a-upgraded-copy-of-book.html

- Michael


> Bj?rn Smalbro wrote:
>> I have a client who wishes to update some thousand framemaker files and 
>> framemaker book files from version 7 to 10. Would anybody know a method for 
>> batch conversion? I suppose it can be done using Extend Script, but is one 
>> also able to handle the error messages which are bound to come, like missing 
>> fonts or pictures? I am not too keen on Framescript even though I am certain 
>> it works allright.
>> 
>> regards
>> Bj?rn
> 

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Re: script or software for batch updating of files to version 10

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

There was an »ExtendScript of the Week« that might be a good starting point:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/10/extendscript-of-the-week-create-a-upgraded-copy-of-book.html

- Michael


> Bjørn Smalbro wrote:
>> I have a client who wishes to update some thousand framemaker files and 
>> framemaker book files from version 7 to 10. Would anybody know a method for 
>> batch conversion? I suppose it can be done using Extend Script, but is one 
>> also able to handle the error messages which are bound to come, like missing 
>> fonts or pictures? I am not too keen on Framescript even though I am certain 
>> it works allright.
>> 
>> regards
>> Bjørn
> 

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Hyperlink from Frame to Folder in Network

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Gary,

Just use forward slashes in pathnames. FrameMaker reserves certain letters in 
combination with a backslash for special characters. I seem to remember that \f 
is used for the florin character (a cursive f).

- Michael



Am 10.11.2011 um 01:09 schrieb Gary Bankston :

> I thought this would be a simple thing to do but...
>  
> I currently have a Frame created pdf document that I need to link over the 
> network to another Frame created pdf. I am using the following to create the 
> link, "openlink X:\filename.pdf" and it works every time from wherever my 
> first frame/pdf document is located to the second frame/pdf document. My 
> problem comes when I try and write to a folder beyond the root of any 
> directory. When I write "openlink X:\foldername\filename.pdf" the second 
> backslash changes to some other character when I select "edit hypertext" and 
> when the pdf file is generated, the link is not functional.
>  
> What am I missing? What am I doing wrong? Any help down this path would be 
> greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks in advance,
> Gary Bankston
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Re: Hyperlink from Frame to Folder in Network

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Gary,

Just use forward slashes in pathnames. FrameMaker reserves certain letters in 
combination with a backslash for special characters. I seem to remember that \f 
is used for the florin character (a cursive f).

- Michael



Am 10.11.2011 um 01:09 schrieb Gary Bankston :

> I thought this would be a simple thing to do but...
>  
> I currently have a Frame created pdf document that I need to link over the 
> network to another Frame created pdf. I am using the following to create the 
> link, "openlink X:\filename.pdf" and it works every time from wherever my 
> first frame/pdf document is located to the second frame/pdf document. My 
> problem comes when I try and write to a folder beyond the root of any 
> directory. When I write "openlink X:\foldername\filename.pdf" the second 
> backslash changes to some other character when I select "edit hypertext" and 
> when the pdf file is generated, the link is not functional.
>  
> What am I missing? What am I doing wrong? Any help down this path would be 
> greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks in advance,
> Gary Bankston
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width of table footnotes?

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Am 05.11.2011 um 14:27 schrieb Alan Houser:

> Am I overlooking an obvious work-around?


Alan, I don?t think you missed something.

As a workaround you may consider adding an invisible column to the right 
spanning the rest of the page width. You can use this to control line breaks of 
footnotes as you want them to happen.

- Michael

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Re: width of table footnotes?

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Am 05.11.2011 um 14:27 schrieb Alan Houser:

> Am I overlooking an obvious work-around?


Alan, I don’t think you missed something.

As a workaround you may consider adding an invisible column to the right 
spanning the rest of the page width. You can use this to control line breaks of 
footnotes as you want them to happen.

- Michael

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FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness

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If you are interested to have this working for international text as well, 
starting with FrameMaker 8 you should put UNICODE TEXT in the front position. 
Otherwise you would loose Cyrillic, Greek, Central European, Baltic characters 
-- in case you want to paste them.

- Michael M?ller-Hillebrand

Am 04.10.2011 um 20:04 schrieb Gay Alson:

> Sorry, Framers, I answered Lea offline, but in case anyone else is
> interested, here's how to do it (thanks to my super colleague, Stephane
> Hogue):
> 
> 1.  Open maker.ini   C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\FrameMaker9\maker.ini
> 2.  In the ClipboardFormatsPriorities key, move TEXT from the end to the
> beginning of the list =TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW,
> MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT
> 3.  Save the ini file and restart FrameMaker.
> 
> What a time-saver this little gem is!
> ~~Gay
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:40:21 -0500
> From: "Kelley, Lea Shannon" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Gay wrote:
> 
> How do I change the maker.ini so Ctrl-V will paste text from Word?
> 
> 
> Lea Shannon Kelley
> 

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Re: FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

If you are interested to have this working for international text as well, 
starting with FrameMaker 8 you should put UNICODE TEXT in the front position. 
Otherwise you would loose Cyrillic, Greek, Central European, Baltic characters 
-- in case you want to paste them.

- Michael Müller-Hillebrand

Am 04.10.2011 um 20:04 schrieb Gay Alson:

> Sorry, Framers, I answered Lea offline, but in case anyone else is
> interested, here's how to do it (thanks to my super colleague, Stephane
> Hogue):
> 
> 1.  Open maker.ini   C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\FrameMaker9\maker.ini
> 2.  In the ClipboardFormatsPriorities key, move TEXT from the end to the
> beginning of the list =TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW,
> MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT
> 3.  Save the ini file and restart FrameMaker.
> 
> What a time-saver this little gem is!
> ~~Gay
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:40:21 -0500
> From: "Kelley, Lea Shannon" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Gay wrote:
> 
> How do I change the maker.ini so Ctrl-V will paste text from Word?
> 
> 
> Lea Shannon Kelley
> 

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font errors/problems

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

John,

Re: font errors/problems

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

John,

From the error message I assume you are running on Windows 7. I think it wasn’t 
mentioned before. 

Normally you cannot write to files in the program files folder structure, but 
if you try to do so, the system may write the file to a »VirtualStore« folder 
structured which is created in 
C:\Users\\AppData\Local\VirtualStore   
As a result, you may have three copies of the maker.ini. I am not sure, how 
applications that were published before Windows 7 handle that VirtualStore.  
You should compare the different versions if you find anything that gives you a 
hint. Well, the version in 
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\9
is not a complete version, it just contains additional settings or overrides to 
the settings in the installation folder maker.ini.

As you already guessed, something has definitely changed on your system, and if 
it is nothing FrameMaker-related it could well be something regarding the 
logged-in user, maybe some hidden changes to the user rights? 

I would: 
1. Update FrameMaker 9 to 9.0p245 (which is the latest version). 
2. Give the current user Administrator rights. If you think the last action is 
too much, then allow the current user to change the FrameMaker installation 
folder.

- Michael


Am 15.09.2011 um 20:14 schrieb jburgdor:

> 
> · This script is now and has for some months been running on a single 
> machine.
> · The script was running fine without alteration, producing no 
> errors, and then … poof, the font problems began.
> · Am running FM9.0p237.


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Setting a thin space in a variable

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

You also may want to bookmark this page from the online help which list 
backslash shortcuts for a lot of special characters:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7fd5.html

Thin Space would be \st or \i

- Michael


Am 02.09.2011 um 20:55 schrieb MamaRed:

> Hi Lea
> 
> You can use the hex code \x12 where ever you want the thin space to appear. 
> I've got an old version of the Windows Character Sets if you want it...I 
> believe it has remained consistent over the years although I wouldn't lay 
> money on it!
> 
> Many blessings
> Jerilynne
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Lea Rush  wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> Frame 8.0p277
> 
> Win Vista, although I don?t think it matters in this case
> 
>  
> 
> I?d like to use a variable to list a phrase with uses a thin space between 
> the terms. Is that possible? A quick check in Help yielded the method for 
> typing the thin space but nothing else.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Setting a thin space in a variable

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

You also may want to bookmark this page from the online help which list 
backslash shortcuts for a lot of special characters:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7fd5.html

Thin Space would be \st or \i

- Michael


Am 02.09.2011 um 20:55 schrieb MamaRed:

> Hi Lea
> 
> You can use the hex code \x12 where ever you want the thin space to appear. 
> I've got an old version of the Windows Character Sets if you want it...I 
> believe it has remained consistent over the years although I wouldn't lay 
> money on it!
> 
> Many blessings
> Jerilynne
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Lea Rush  wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> Frame 8.0p277
> 
> Win Vista, although I don’t think it matters in this case
> 
>  
> 
> I’d like to use a variable to list a phrase with uses a thin space between 
> the terms. Is that possible? A quick check in Help yielded the method for 
> typing the thin space but nothing else.
> 
> 
> 

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OT: Batch Convert EPS to TIF

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Am 12.08.2011 um 15:13 schrieb B??var Bj?rgvinsson:

> I am not sure whether ImageMagick can manage this on its own, but ps2edit 
> piped to ImageMagic can do this in batch, i think.


ImageMagick can take advantage of an installed GhostScript. In an automated 
publishing environment I use GhostScript and ImageMagick to convert EPS or PDF 
into PNG, TIF would be just another option? As far as I remember it is 
sufficient to have them both installed and then just use the convert.exe from 
ImageMagick.

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Am 12.08.2011 um 15:13 schrieb Böðvar Björgvinsson:

> I am not sure whether ImageMagick can manage this on its own, but ps2edit 
> piped to ImageMagic can do this in batch, i think.


ImageMagick can take advantage of an installed GhostScript. In an automated 
publishing environment I use GhostScript and ImageMagick to convert EPS or PDF 
into PNG, TIF would be just another option… As far as I remember it is 
sufficient to have them both installed and then just use the convert.exe from 
ImageMagick.

- Michael


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Scientific names in roman not italics in running headers

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Patricia,

Using Running H/F with the <$paratext> or <$marker1/2> is no option. For a good 
reason these system variables reference only the text, no formatting at all. 

The details are here:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS2937A033-EFF3-4d85-BBB3-98214B54950D.html

If the scientific name in your application is always the last (or first) part 
of a heading, you can proceed like this:

[Heading:] Field Screening Aid for Bug one

Add a marker Header/Footer $1 with the first part of the heading: Field 
Screening Aid for

Add a marker Header/Footer $2 with the second part of the heading: Bug one
(fill in a space character if some headings do not have a scientific name)

Now change the variable you use on the master page (e.g. Running H/F 1) to

<$marker1> <$marker2>

(with "Emphasis" being the name of a character format that applies the desired 
formatting)

[Bonus knowledge: "" can be used instead of  to switch off 
the effect of the character format.]

Why is it so awkward? Because this requirement is very seldom and has some 
side-effects. Just think about the headings of a document turned into a 
collapsible tree in some form of online help. Those usually do not allow any 
formatting at all. Even FrameMaker?s TOC picks up very little formatting from 
the headings. 

Could this be automated? Yes, using the FDK or FrameScript or ExtendScript 
(since FM10) it is possible to automatically insert/fill the Header/Footer 
variables accordingly.

HTH,

- Michael


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Patricia,

Using Running H/F with the <$paratext> or <$marker1/2> is no option. For a good 
reason these system variables reference only the text, no formatting at all. 

The details are here:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS2937A033-EFF3-4d85-BBB3-98214B54950D.html

If the scientific name in your application is always the last (or first) part 
of a heading, you can proceed like this:

[Heading:] Field Screening Aid for Bug one

Add a marker Header/Footer $1 with the first part of the heading: Field 
Screening Aid for

Add a marker Header/Footer $2 with the second part of the heading: Bug one
(fill in a space character if some headings do not have a scientific name)

Now change the variable you use on the master page (e.g. Running H/F 1) to

<$marker1> <$marker2>

(with "Emphasis" being the name of a character format that applies the desired 
formatting)

[Bonus knowledge: "" can be used instead of  to switch off 
the effect of the character format.]

Why is it so awkward? Because this requirement is very seldom and has some 
side-effects. Just think about the headings of a document turned into a 
collapsible tree in some form of online help. Those usually do not allow any 
formatting at all. Even FrameMaker’s TOC picks up very little formatting from 
the headings. 

Could this be automated? Yes, using the FDK or FrameScript or ExtendScript 
(since FM10) it is possible to automatically insert/fill the Header/Footer 
variables accordingly.

HTH,

- Michael


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Structured Frame Reference Guides

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> Specifically, I am setting up an EDD file and I can't decipher via the Adobe 
> help files how to create an element that does not insert a paragraph break. 
> Paragraph formats all have paragraph breaks after them, and I don't see a way 
> to "turn that off" from within the EDD.

Tim,

Inside the text formatting rules you would make the element a text range. 
You'll see the exact element name in the Element Catalog.

- Michael

Re: Structured Frame Reference Guides

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

> Specifically, I am setting up an EDD file and I can't decipher via the Adobe 
> help files how to create an element that does not insert a paragraph break. 
> Paragraph formats all have paragraph breaks after them, and I don't see a way 
> to "turn that off" from within the EDD.

Tim,

Inside the text formatting rules you would make the element a text range. 
You'll see the exact element name in the Element Catalog.

- Michael
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Missing text in PDF

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Am 25.04.2011 um 19:02 schrieb "venkan" :

> I am facing issues in Helvetica Font when converting to PDF. Most of the 
> texts are not converted in PDF. We are getting white spaces. Please help and 
> advice.
> 

Venkan,

Please use a meaningful subject for your next post. Also, please share your 
FrameMaker, Acrobat and operating system versions.

Regarding your issue, the solution is most likely found here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2008/07/hotfix_for_framemaker_1.html

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Re: Missing text in PDF

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Am 25.04.2011 um 19:02 schrieb "venkan" :

> I am facing issues in Helvetica Font when converting to PDF. Most of the 
> texts are not converted in PDF. We are getting white spaces. Please help and 
> advice.
> 

Venkan,

Please use a meaningful subject for your next post. Also, please share your 
FrameMaker, Acrobat and operating system versions.

Regarding your issue, the solution is most likely found here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2008/07/hotfix_for_framemaker_1.html

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files in book which end up with 2 pages

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Am 15.04.2011 um 19:43 schrieb Theresa de Valence :

> Every other file is set to: Double-sided, 1st Page side: read from file, 
> delete empty pages.

Theresa, try to set 1st page side to "next available" if you want to avoid 
empty pages.

- Michael

Re: files in book which end up with 2 pages

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Am 15.04.2011 um 19:43 schrieb Theresa de Valence :

> Every other file is set to: Double-sided, 1st Page side: read from file, 
> delete empty pages.

Theresa, try to set 1st page side to "next available" if you want to avoid 
empty pages.

- Michael
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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

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Shorter: http://bit.ly/frame25rocks

Am 07.04.2011 um 18:07 schrieb Art Campbell:

> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
> 
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Art

Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Shorter: http://bit.ly/frame25rocks

Am 07.04.2011 um 18:07 schrieb Art Campbell:

> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
> 
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Art

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Incomplete PDF

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 21.03.2011 um 21:32 schrieb Venkan:

> Can anyone help me?

Venkan, 

It would be easier to help, if your mail would have used a proper subject line 
(like the one I provided).

> We can able to create the complete PDF (ie. all texts are viewing in the
> PDF) in one machine only. Please advice how we rectify this for another
> machine.

See here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2008/07/hotfix_for_framemaker_1.html

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Re: Incomplete PDF

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 21.03.2011 um 21:32 schrieb Venkan:

> Can anyone help me?

Venkan, 

It would be easier to help, if your mail would have used a proper subject line 
(like the one I provided).

> We can able to create the complete PDF (ie. all texts are viewing in the
> PDF) in one machine only. Please advice how we rectify this for another
> machine.

See here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2008/07/hotfix_for_framemaker_1.html

- Michael Müller-Hillebrand

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Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files

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> Oddly enough, you can only save as either a Version 10 or version 7 when 
> saving as a .mif file.
> 
If your target version is FrameMaker 5, 6, or 7 use MIF7.
If your target version is FrameMaker 8 or later, be sure to use MIF10.

Background: The text encoding changed with the introduction of Unicode and you 
risk losing some characters if you save as MIF7 when you want to continue with 
FrameMaker 8 or newer.

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Re: Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

> Oddly enough, you can only save as either a Version 10 or version 7 when 
> saving as a .mif file.
> 
If your target version is FrameMaker 5, 6, or 7 use MIF7.
If your target version is FrameMaker 8 or later, be sure to use MIF10.

Background: The text encoding changed with the introduction of Unicode and you 
risk losing some characters if you save as MIF7 when you want to continue with 
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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 16.03.2011 um 15:59 schrieb Debra Laroche:

> It's a .tif file that's the corporate logo and until recently I had no 
> problem having it convert correctly from FrameMaker to PDF using the print to 
> .ps file (because of the landscape pages I have in several chapters of my 
> book).


Debar, recently I had the situation with a client that some graphic that was 
working OK in FrameMaker 7 and earlier started to make problems in FrameMaker 
8+. The problem was a unusual encoding of some string inside that EPS file, 
which came from FreeHand 3 or something else from the last century. Resaving 
the EPS file in a current product version was the cure.

Maybe you can just re-save that TIF image using a current version of an image 
editor and make sure to save it without LZW compression (this makes it harder 
for apps to deal with the file) or anything that reads JPG (this reduces 
quality). If the TIF is CMYK you could also try with converting to RGB.

Try one thing at a time, so you/we know what was the source of the problem.

Good luck,

- Michael

Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Hi,

I am outside the proposed ?collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? 
should not be used?. There are quite a few people using this and in automated 
processes it is one of the best options. Those people just don?t speak up.

What is a fact for FrameMaker 9 and 10: The so-called ?pristine CMYK output? is 
not working as advertised in so many situations that it is common wisdom to 
recommend _selecting_ the ?Convert CMYK to RGB? checkbox (and thus switching to 
the behavior of earlier versions). Because the Print to File process always 
works this way (converting CMYK to RGB) it may appear as if this would be the 
cure for printing problems.

Debra, what you describe is really awkward and apparently not connected to the 
CMYK issues, since you print to file. I don?t understand exactly what you 
experience. It seems you imported a graphic on your title page that used to be 
converted to PDF easily with older versions of FrameMaker but not so with 
FrameMaker 10...? Could you please share a little bit more information, like 
the format of the graphic and using which tools it was created? Maybe even the 
graphic?

- Michael

Am 15.03.2011 um 18:22 schrieb Debra Laroche:

> Hi!
>  
> And yet for me, documents that rendered correctly for some time (going from 
> FrameMaker 9 to PDF by printing to postscript (.ps) files) no longer show 
> just one graphic I need on my title page. So I have to save that file as PDF 
> to get the graphic to come across and then add that page to my PDF of the 
> rest of the book.
>  
> It's annoying (and time-consuming) that something that worked well before no 
> longer works in a newer version of the application. I've been an avid 
> FrameMaker user since FrameMaker 3 days...
>  
> Cheers, and for what it's worth,
> Deb
> 
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Lea Rush  wrote:
> Hi Art,
>  
> Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
> quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? 
> should not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature 
> ranging across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative 
> newcomer. A few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to 
> them. For myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.
>  
> YMMV,
> 
> Lea

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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 16.03.2011 um 15:59 schrieb Debra Laroche:

> It's a .tif file that's the corporate logo and until recently I had no 
> problem having it convert correctly from FrameMaker to PDF using the print to 
> .ps file (because of the landscape pages I have in several chapters of my 
> book).


Debar, recently I had the situation with a client that some graphic that was 
working OK in FrameMaker 7 and earlier started to make problems in FrameMaker 
8+. The problem was a unusual encoding of some string inside that EPS file, 
which came from FreeHand 3 or something else from the last century. Resaving 
the EPS file in a current product version was the cure.

Maybe you can just re-save that TIF image using a current version of an image 
editor and make sure to save it without LZW compression (this makes it harder 
for apps to deal with the file) or anything that reads JPG (this reduces 
quality). If the TIF is CMYK you could also try with converting to RGB.

Try one thing at a time, so you/we know what was the source of the problem.

Good luck,

- Michael

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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Hi,

I am outside the proposed »collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF” 
should not be used«. There are quite a few people using this and in automated 
processes it is one of the best options. Those people just don’t speak up.

What is a fact for FrameMaker 9 and 10: The so-called »pristine CMYK output« is 
not working as advertised in so many situations that it is common wisdom to 
recommend _selecting_ the »Convert CMYK to RGB« checkbox (and thus switching to 
the behavior of earlier versions). Because the Print to File process always 
works this way (converting CMYK to RGB) it may appear as if this would be the 
cure for printing problems.

Debra, what you describe is really awkward and apparently not connected to the 
CMYK issues, since you print to file. I don’t understand exactly what you 
experience. It seems you imported a graphic on your title page that used to be 
converted to PDF easily with older versions of FrameMaker but not so with 
FrameMaker 10...? Could you please share a little bit more information, like 
the format of the graphic and using which tools it was created? Maybe even the 
graphic?

- Michael

Am 15.03.2011 um 18:22 schrieb Debra Laroche:

> Hi!
>  
> And yet for me, documents that rendered correctly for some time (going from 
> FrameMaker 9 to PDF by printing to postscript (.ps) files) no longer show 
> just one graphic I need on my title page. So I have to save that file as PDF 
> to get the graphic to come across and then add that page to my PDF of the 
> rest of the book.
>  
> It's annoying (and time-consuming) that something that worked well before no 
> longer works in a newer version of the application. I've been an avid 
> FrameMaker user since FrameMaker 3 days...
>  
> Cheers, and for what it's worth,
> Deb
> 
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Lea Rush  wrote:
> Hi Art,
>  
> Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
> quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF” 
> should not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature 
> ranging across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I’m a relative 
> newcomer. A few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to 
> them. For myself, I’ve given up ever even attempting it.
>  
> YMMV,
> 
> Lea

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A cross reference question

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Brian,

Check out this topic about character formats in cross-references:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSF1381482-94EF-4951-934A-7C2F1963052C.html#WSE1540670-E2FA-4cca-BA76-DCC3CC41E8F9

- Michael



Am 18.02.2011 um 22:20 schrieb Brian Chan :

> The above is a cross reference. When I look at the Character Designer, the 
> text is Regular for Weight. Is there a way to just bold the "d:" (shown 
> below)?
>  
> d: QC result is excluded by user

Table Elements Out of Order in Cross-Reference Dialog

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Jasmine,

In addition to Fred's general remark you can display the possible Xref sources 
in two orders: by document order or by ID. I guess your Xref dialog is set to 
use the latter.

- Michael

Re: Table Elements Out of Order in Cross-Reference Dialog

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Jasmine,

In addition to Fred's general remark you can display the possible Xref sources 
in two orders: by document order or by ID. I guess your Xref dialog is set to 
use the latter.

- Michael

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Re: A cross reference question

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Brian,

Check out this topic about character formats in cross-references:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSF1381482-94EF-4951-934A-7C2F1963052C.html#WSE1540670-E2FA-4cca-BA76-DCC3CC41E8F9

- Michael



Am 18.02.2011 um 22:20 schrieb Brian Chan :

> The above is a cross reference. When I look at the Character Designer, the 
> text is Regular for Weight. Is there a way to just bold the "d:" (shown 
> below)?
>  
> d: QC result is excluded by user
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WebWorks 7 & Character Mapping

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Brad,

Starting with a certain version, WWP has an internal mapping that matches the 
FrameRoman encoding to Unicode (and it handles the Mac characters also). I 
remember that old charcater maps were kept in old form (mapping to FrameRoman), 
but new maps used Unicode. I am not sure how to detect the difference. But you 
can not mix \xfb (FrameRoman for the degree) and \u00B0 in the same character 
map. Could this be the source of the problem?

I understand you first need to match the character before thinking what the 
output should be.

My old WWP support pages are still available, they live here:

http://wwp.cap-studio.de/index.html.en

There is also a character lis document that might be helpful, even though it 
does not show Unicode values, only Western Windows ANSI codes:

http://wwp.cap-studio.de/common/res/FM_SBCS_complete.html

I have about one request/year regarding WWP and sometimes I remember some 
stuff...

- Michael


Am 08.02.2011 um 17:26 schrieb Brad Anderson :

> Framers,
> 
> For those of you old-time WebWorks folks on the list.   I have a friend that 
> is still using Frame 7 and WebWorks Publisher 7 to produce HTML.  The process 
> has been working splendidly for the past 10 years.  I've recently had to do a 
> bit of updating for him, and I'm having trouble with some of the special 
> characters.  I think it is due to the special font mapping that FrameMaker 
> had internally.   Most characters can be mapped fine by looking in the 
> Windows Character Map utility or in the FrameMaker Character Set PDF.
> However, there are a couple of characters that I cannot find the \u code for. 
>   The stickiest is the degree symbol.
> 
> If I use the \u00B0 WebWorks just blows by it and the degree (?) is output 
> but then renders incorrectly in the browser.
> 
> I believe this to be the result of FrameMaker internal character mapping.  If 
> I copy the degree symbol from the character map and paste it into Frame, it 
> converts to something other than the degree.   If I use the masculine ordinal 
> indicator (?) (it looks very close to the degree), everything works fine.
> 
> If anyone know how to find out which characters are mapped in Frame and how 
> to intercept, I'd appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brad

Re: WebWorks 7 & Character Mapping

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Brad,

Starting with a certain version, WWP has an internal mapping that matches the 
FrameRoman encoding to Unicode (and it handles the Mac characters also). I 
remember that old charcater maps were kept in old form (mapping to FrameRoman), 
but new maps used Unicode. I am not sure how to detect the difference. But you 
can not mix \xfb (FrameRoman for the degree) and \u00B0 in the same character 
map. Could this be the source of the problem?

I understand you first need to match the character before thinking what the 
output should be.

My old WWP support pages are still available, they live here:

http://wwp.cap-studio.de/index.html.en

There is also a character lis document that might be helpful, even though it 
does not show Unicode values, only Western Windows ANSI codes:

http://wwp.cap-studio.de/common/res/FM_SBCS_complete.html

I have about one request/year regarding WWP and sometimes I remember some 
stuff...

- Michael


Am 08.02.2011 um 17:26 schrieb Brad Anderson :

> Framers,
> 
> For those of you old-time WebWorks folks on the list.   I have a friend that 
> is still using Frame 7 and WebWorks Publisher 7 to produce HTML.  The process 
> has been working splendidly for the past 10 years.  I've recently had to do a 
> bit of updating for him, and I'm having trouble with some of the special 
> characters.  I think it is due to the special font mapping that FrameMaker 
> had internally.   Most characters can be mapped fine by looking in the 
> Windows Character Map utility or in the FrameMaker Character Set PDF.
> However, there are a couple of characters that I cannot find the \u code for. 
>   The stickiest is the degree symbol.
> 
> If I use the \u00B0 WebWorks just blows by it and the degree (°) is output 
> but then renders incorrectly in the browser.
> 
> I believe this to be the result of FrameMaker internal character mapping.  If 
> I copy the degree symbol from the character map and paste it into Frame, it 
> converts to something other than the degree.   If I use the masculine ordinal 
> indicator (º) (it looks very close to the degree), everything works fine.
> 
> If anyone know how to find out which characters are mapped in Frame and how 
> to intercept, I'd appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brad
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Does anyone know of an efficient way to convert paragraph-based xrefs to element-based xrefs?

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

A standard conversion table does that. It creates the required ID values in an 
attribute named "Id" and does not add any filename information; I understand it 
creates this Id attribute for every Cross-Ref marker found. The next step would 
be West Steet Consulting's plug-in Xref Wizard if you have more than one file, 
it resolves refs throughout a book. And if you need another attribute name (or 
the attribute at another element), you should look at Wets Street Consulting's 
plug-in FrameSLT to handle that.

- Michael

Am 14.01.2011 um 19:41 schrieb Chris Despopoulos :

> What would happen if you created a minimal conversion table that ONLY 
> converted 
> XRefs to elements?  Just wondering...  I might work, or it might make an 
> tangled 
> mess out of your document.
> 
> The other thing to do would be a script or plug-in that does this for you.  
> It 
> sould take maybe 4 or 5 hours to code that up, if you can live with minimal 
> GUI 
> and a limited action like this.
> 
> cud
> 
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Re: Does anyone know of an efficient way to convert paragraph-based xrefs to element-based xrefs?

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

A standard conversion table does that. It creates the required ID values in an 
attribute named "Id" and does not add any filename information; I understand it 
creates this Id attribute for every Cross-Ref marker found. The next step would 
be West Steet Consulting's plug-in Xref Wizard if you have more than one file, 
it resolves refs throughout a book. And if you need another attribute name (or 
the attribute at another element), you should look at Wets Street Consulting's 
plug-in FrameSLT to handle that.

- Michael

Am 14.01.2011 um 19:41 schrieb Chris Despopoulos :

> What would happen if you created a minimal conversion table that ONLY 
> converted 
> XRefs to elements?  Just wondering...  I might work, or it might make an 
> tangled 
> mess out of your document.
> 
> The other thing to do would be a script or plug-in that does this for you.  
> It 
> sould take maybe 4 or 5 hours to code that up, if you can live with minimal 
> GUI 
> and a limited action like this.
> 
> cud
> 
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FM8 with SP3/FM9 SP3 or Windows7 - any problems?

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Orly,

not FM nor any OS or SP is the problem... the potential unreliable usage of OLE 
is the problem and without knowing any detail I would suggest you redesign your 
processes to avoid OLE.

- Michael



Am 14.12.2010 um 11:35 schrieb Orly Zimmerman :

> HI All,
> I was wondering if anyone knows how FM8 handles embedded Visios (OLEs) with 
> Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) or how FM9 handles them.
> 
> Currently, we work with TCS-FM8 on Windows XP with SP2 and have a load of FM 
> files with embedded Visios.
> 
> As I understand, FM7 doesn't do well with this matter with SP3- I was 
> wondering what will happen if IT insists on upgrading us to SP3 or Windows 7.
> 
> We will have to change the way we work or is it not a problem?
> 
> TIA,
> Orly.

FM 9 and SGML

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 13.12.2010 um 15:54 schrieb Michael Johnson :

> My employer wants to know how tough it would be generate our technical 
> manuals in SGML and submit the .SGM files to our customer directly without 
> going through an out-of-house service provider who turns our Word and FM 
> offerings into SGML.
>  
> I know FM9 can generate structured XML, but what about SGML? 

Mike,

FrameMaker can do SGML, the structured parts were invented in the late 1990s. 
But who would want to use SGML nowadays? XML is a standard since 2000, there 
are far more XML tools and solutions around and it is ages better if you think 
about translating any of your documents.

SGML crosses my way only in solutions dating back 5 or more years, for 
historical reasons. Everyone is planning to switch to XML. 

- Michael

Re: FM8 with SP3/FM9 SP3 or Windows7 - any problems?

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Orly,

not FM nor any OS or SP is the problem... the potential unreliable usage of OLE 
is the problem and without knowing any detail I would suggest you redesign your 
processes to avoid OLE.

- Michael



Am 14.12.2010 um 11:35 schrieb Orly Zimmerman :

> HI All,
> I was wondering if anyone knows how FM8 handles embedded Visios (OLEs) with 
> Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) or how FM9 handles them.
> 
> Currently, we work with TCS-FM8 on Windows XP with SP2 and have a load of FM 
> files with embedded Visios.
> 
> As I understand, FM7 doesn't do well with this matter with SP3- I was 
> wondering what will happen if IT insists on upgrading us to SP3 or Windows 7.
> 
> We will have to change the way we work or is it not a problem?
> 
> TIA,
> Orly.
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Re: FM 9 and SGML

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Am 13.12.2010 um 15:54 schrieb Michael Johnson :

> My employer wants to know how tough it would be generate our technical 
> manuals in SGML and submit the .SGM files to our customer directly without 
> going through an out-of-house service provider who turns our Word and FM 
> offerings into SGML.
>  
> I know FM9 can generate structured XML, but what about SGML? 

Mike,

FrameMaker can do SGML, the structured parts were invented in the late 1990s. 
But who would want to use SGML nowadays? XML is a standard since 2000, there 
are far more XML tools and solutions around and it is ages better if you think 
about translating any of your documents.

SGML crosses my way only in solutions dating back 5 or more years, for 
historical reasons. Everyone is planning to switch to XML. 

- Michael
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MIF to SVG

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Am 07.12.2010 um 16:52 schrieb Rick Quatro:

> Is anyone aware of a tool for converting MIF files to SVG? My client has a
> mix of imported graphics and FrameMaker objects in their anchored frames. We
> can preserve them by using MIF for the anchored frame content when saving to
> XML, but now they want to see if the MIF representation of the graphics,
> etc., can be converted to SVG. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Rick,

I have done some work in this direction, both using FrameScript from "inside" 
FrameMaker documents as well as externally after turning FrameMaker files with 
Leximation?s MIFML converter in to MIF-as-XML. I then used XSLT to create SVG.

But: SVG has no real support for text frames, just text lines. Also, as far as 
I remember, I stopped creating a converter for Arc objects, because the graphic 
model is very different between FrameMaker (where you can rotate any object as 
you like) and SVG.

So, yes, it is possible with some limitations.

- Michael

Re: MIF to SVG

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 07.12.2010 um 16:52 schrieb Rick Quatro:

> Is anyone aware of a tool for converting MIF files to SVG? My client has a
> mix of imported graphics and FrameMaker objects in their anchored frames. We
> can preserve them by using MIF for the anchored frame content when saving to
> XML, but now they want to see if the MIF representation of the graphics,
> etc., can be converted to SVG. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Rick,

I have done some work in this direction, both using FrameScript from "inside" 
FrameMaker documents as well as externally after turning FrameMaker files with 
Leximation’s MIFML converter in to MIF-as-XML. I then used XSLT to create SVG.

But: SVG has no real support for text frames, just text lines. Also, as far as 
I remember, I stopped creating a converter for Arc objects, because the graphic 
model is very different between FrameMaker (where you can rotate any object as 
you like) and SVG.

So, yes, it is possible with some limitations.

- Michael

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Java error Message when importing xml to frameMaker 8

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Am 29.09.2010 um 19:53 schrieb Chris Despopoulos:

> I'm guessing Maker needs Java to run 
> Xerces (funny, I always assumed they used the C++ version).

Just for the record: FrameMaker does not require Java, for XML validation and 
transformation it uses Xerxes and Xalan in their C versions. 

I suggested to the OP in the Adobe Forums that her process must include some 
external plug-in or script which in turn requires Java.

- Michael

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Re: Java error Message when importing xml to frameMaker 8

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 29.09.2010 um 19:53 schrieb Chris Despopoulos:

> I'm guessing Maker needs Java to run 
> Xerces (funny, I always assumed they used the C++ version).

Just for the record: FrameMaker does not require Java, for XML validation and 
transformation it uses Xerxes and Xalan in their C versions. 

I suggested to the OP in the Adobe Forums that her process must include some 
external plug-in or script which in turn requires Java.

- Michael

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RANT: FM 9.0 -

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 04.08.2010 um 07:51 schrieb Steve Johnson:

> And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying?

Steve, No, they aren't. But some perceived bugs are (only) limitations of the 
software.

> Have they finally fixed the issue where you can't use cross-reference in text 
> insets?

This is a limitation due to the architecture of the software (which serves us 
well in many other places). Cross-references are created between files and each 
file might be used multiple times as a text inset. A cross-reference from or 
into a text inset might appear multiple times. It is possible to handle this in 
a finishing step, just before going to PDF/print. I did this using API 
programming.

> Have they fixed text insets so they don't bleed into the following paragraph?

Please insert a non-breaking space between your text inset insertion point and 
the end of the receiving paragraph.

> Ah, not to worry. As long as the pods are up all is well in the world.

That is your opinion. Others think that all is well (=speedy) if all pods are 
closed. ;-)

- Michael

Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 04.08.2010 um 07:51 schrieb Steve Johnson:

> And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying?

Steve, No, they aren't. But some perceived bugs are (only) limitations of the 
software.

> Have they finally fixed the issue where you can't use cross-reference in text 
> insets?

This is a limitation due to the architecture of the software (which serves us 
well in many other places). Cross-references are created between files and each 
file might be used multiple times as a text inset. A cross-reference from or 
into a text inset might appear multiple times. It is possible to handle this in 
a finishing step, just before going to PDF/print. I did this using API 
programming.

> Have they fixed text insets so they don't bleed into the following paragraph?

Please insert a non-breaking space between your text inset insertion point and 
the end of the receiving paragraph.

> Ah, not to worry. As long as the pods are up all is well in the world.

That is your opinion. Others think that all is well (=speedy) if all pods are 
closed. ;-)

- Michael





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FM9 Crashes

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Try:

%appdata%\Adobe\FrameMaker\9

- Michael


Am 04.08.2010 um 14:26 schrieb Rick Quatro:

> I just started having the same problem yesterday. What is the name/location
> of the user dictionary? Thank you very much.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-659-8267
> rick at frameexpert.com
> 
> *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
> 
> 
> IIRC it's a personal/local dictionary problem. There was a thread on this
> recently.
> I think if you delete your personal dictionary it will solve the problem.
> Same thing happened to me several month back.
> I don't recall what caused the corruption.
> Another bit of buggery in FM9.
> 
> Will White

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Re: FM9 Crashes

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Try:

%appdata%\Adobe\FrameMaker\9

- Michael


Am 04.08.2010 um 14:26 schrieb Rick Quatro:

> I just started having the same problem yesterday. What is the name/location
> of the user dictionary? Thank you very much.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-659-8267
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 
> *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
> 
> 
> IIRC it's a personal/local dictionary problem. There was a thread on this
> recently.
> I think if you delete your personal dictionary it will solve the problem.
> Same thing happened to me several month back.
> I don't recall what caused the corruption.
> Another bit of buggery in FM9.
> 
> Will White

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Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

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Hi Chris,

I listed them once and hope the links still work:

http://cap-studio.de/wp/index.php/2008/06/framemaker-804/

- Michael

Am 07.06.2010 um 01:21 schrieb Chris Despopoulos:

> Ha!  I knew it couldn't be that FrameMaker 8 was unable to create PDF with 
> Acrobat 9.  I turns out I need to patch.  Until I get the patches, the 
> workaround is to turn on tagging in the PDF settings.  
> 
> Now, I can't seem to find the patches anywhere.  They aren't obvious on the 
> Adobe site.  But if I want to migrate Maker 8 to a new machine, I need 
> them...  Am I just blind and can't see them?  Can anybody give me a pointer?  
> The UPDATER command doesn't work because it thinks I have the wrong build of 
> the product, for some reason...
> 
> Thanks cud

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Re: Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Hi Chris,

I listed them once and hope the links still work:

http://cap-studio.de/wp/index.php/2008/06/framemaker-804/

- Michael

Am 07.06.2010 um 01:21 schrieb Chris Despopoulos:

> Ha!  I knew it couldn't be that FrameMaker 8 was unable to create PDF with 
> Acrobat 9.  I turns out I need to patch.  Until I get the patches, the 
> workaround is to turn on tagging in the PDF settings.  
> 
> Now, I can't seem to find the patches anywhere.  They aren't obvious on the 
> Adobe site.  But if I want to migrate Maker 8 to a new machine, I need 
> them...  Am I just blind and can't see them?  Can anybody give me a pointer?  
> The UPDATER command doesn't work because it thinks I have the wrong build of 
> the product, for some reason...
> 
> Thanks cud

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Another issue with character encoding and Web Works Publisher

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Am 20.05.2010 um 13:11 schrieb Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp:

> Hi,
> 
> Additional to my other query, here' another one, for those who work with WWP
> 2003.
> 
> I'm not a frequent WWP user, so not very familiar with that tool.
> I'm compiling a help project based on Russian FrameMaker files (FM 7.2, WWWP
> 2003 version 8.6.6587). We're creating a .chm file.
> 
> All text goes ok in Russian characters, TOC is ok but the Index shows up as
> gabberish.
> 
> Does anyone know what to do to get this Index correct in Russian characters?

Wim,

You are out of luck with this. You have to revert the project to the pre-2003 
method of handling the Index, that is make WWP use the generated index from 
your FrameMaker book instead of the content of the Index markers. Also, I don't 
think that WWP 2003 has built-in the necessary sorting rules to create a 
Russian index ? FrameMaker is ultimately flexible with this.

Why is this? Well, your normal text content uses a font like "XYZ Cyr" for 
Russian text and you have a special mapping for this font, so the letters 
appear correctly in HTML. But inside markers there is no font, so the system 
has no way to decide which mapping to use. Well, you could make some tests and 
try to trick WWP in always using the Cyrillic mapping, but this still does not 
give you a Russian sort order!

[BTW, the very same thing happens when migrating Cyrillic documents to 
FrameMaker8/9: Text is usually handled OK, but marker content is not.]

Previous version of WWP converted the Index based on the generated Index from 
FrameMaker, then the Index entries are all text with a font and the mapping is 
fine.

- Michael (who stopped consulting WWP2003 some years ago, he thought...)

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Re: Another issue with character encoding and Web Works Publisher

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 20.05.2010 um 13:11 schrieb Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp:

> Hi,
> 
> Additional to my other query, here' another one, for those who work with WWP
> 2003.
> 
> I'm not a frequent WWP user, so not very familiar with that tool.
> I'm compiling a help project based on Russian FrameMaker files (FM 7.2, WWWP
> 2003 version 8.6.6587). We're creating a .chm file.
> 
> All text goes ok in Russian characters, TOC is ok but the Index shows up as
> gabberish.
> 
> Does anyone know what to do to get this Index correct in Russian characters?

Wim,

You are out of luck with this. You have to revert the project to the pre-2003 
method of handling the Index, that is make WWP use the generated index from 
your FrameMaker book instead of the content of the Index markers. Also, I don't 
think that WWP 2003 has built-in the necessary sorting rules to create a 
Russian index — FrameMaker is ultimately flexible with this.

Why is this? Well, your normal text content uses a font like "XYZ Cyr" for 
Russian text and you have a special mapping for this font, so the letters 
appear correctly in HTML. But inside markers there is no font, so the system 
has no way to decide which mapping to use. Well, you could make some tests and 
try to trick WWP in always using the Cyrillic mapping, but this still does not 
give you a Russian sort order!

[BTW, the very same thing happens when migrating Cyrillic documents to 
FrameMaker8/9: Text is usually handled OK, but marker content is not.]

Previous version of WWP converted the Index based on the generated Index from 
FrameMaker, then the Index entries are all text with a font and the mapping is 
fine.

- Michael (who stopped consulting WWP2003 some years ago, he thought...)

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Change color of interface

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Lou,

The only option you have is to change the "UI Brightness", i.e. the type of 
gray used for the UI. This option can be found at

File > Preferences > Interface

Especially for beamer presentations you have to have the lightest gray, which 
may also pull you out of your depression ;-)

- Michael M?ller-Hillebrand

Am 26.03.2010 um 20:15 schrieb Lou Martindale:

> This is such a mundane request I hate to ask, but I've searched and searched
> for an answer. I'm hoping someone on this vast list can help me. 
> 
> Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of problems,
> both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
> seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but the
> background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
> drab, depressing gray. 
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Re: Change color of interface

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Lou,

The only option you have is to change the "UI Brightness", i.e. the type of 
gray used for the UI. This option can be found at

File > Preferences > Interface

Especially for beamer presentations you have to have the lightest gray, which 
may also pull you out of your depression ;-)

- Michael Müller-Hillebrand

Am 26.03.2010 um 20:15 schrieb Lou Martindale:

> This is such a mundane request I hate to ask, but I've searched and searched
> for an answer. I'm hoping someone on this vast list can help me. 
> 
> Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of problems,
> both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
> seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but the
> background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
> drab, depressing gray. 
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pure XML

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 17.02.2010 um 16:33 schrieb Sarah O'Keefe:

> So, if you use the original FrameMaker model of conditional text, you  
> will have interoperability problems. There are other features with  
> similar issues.

Isn't "interoperability" more a question of process design than of product 
features? 

I doubt whether two arbitrary XML editors are interoperable in all editing 
aspects. It seems to me, that every editor has its own take on tracking 
changes, for example. Also handling of tables and support for graphics come to 
my mind.

- Michael

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Re: pure XML

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 17.02.2010 um 16:33 schrieb Sarah O'Keefe:

> So, if you use the original FrameMaker model of conditional text, you  
> will have interoperability problems. There are other features with  
> similar issues.

Isn't "interoperability" more a question of process design than of product 
features? 

I doubt whether two arbitrary XML editors are interoperable in all editing 
aspects. It seems to me, that every editor has its own take on tracking 
changes, for example. Also handling of tables and support for graphics come to 
my mind.

- Michael

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Frame 9 MAJOR BUG

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Lea,

Excuse my not very helpful answer, but if something goes wrong it is not 
necessarily the fault of the front-most application. Todays operating systems 
and software are very complex and Windows 7 has not yet seen a Service Pack. 
Like Frank said.

Having said that, before shouting ?Major Bug? please take a second to verify 
your observations. If something goes (horribly or not) wrong, it is only an 
application?s bug if it can be reproduced and the reporter has at least tried 
to exclude as many other influences as possible. 

And if it is reproducible on one machine, but network access or file system or 
fonts or printing are involved, I urge users to try it on another machine to 
exclude local configuration problems.

Why all those efforts? Without a reproducible case you won?t find a person or 
company to investigate the problem unless you are a $ customer.

You seem to have a good record of what exactly you did. Can you reproduce what 
you have seen?

- Michael

Am 29.12.2009 um 21:24 schrieb Galanter, Lea:

> I'm not sure how to report this, but Frame 9 just crashed on me when I
> had two files open (named About Blah and Configuring Blah), and when I
> re-opened both files, they were exactly the same. That means, I totally
> lost all the text in one of the files. I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7
> and I was working in the Configuring Blah file and selected Conditional
> Text to apply a condition to some text. Frame crashed and then re-opened
> itself. When Frame opened the Configuring Blah chapter.recover file, all
> my original text was gone and replaced with the text from the About Blah
> chapter! Even the Configuring Blah.backup file had been converted to the
> text from the About Blah.backup file.
> 
> I don't know if anyone else has ever experienced this problem, but this
> is major. Assuming I can even get the previous version from my company's
> source control, this is still hours and hours of work to re-create. This
> is a major bug in Frame. How do I report it?
> 
> Lea Galanter

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Re: Frame 9 MAJOR BUG

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Lea,

Excuse my not very helpful answer, but if something goes wrong it is not 
necessarily the fault of the front-most application. Todays operating systems 
and software are very complex and Windows 7 has not yet seen a Service Pack. 
Like Frank said.

Having said that, before shouting »Major Bug« please take a second to verify 
your observations. If something goes (horribly or not) wrong, it is only an 
application’s bug if it can be reproduced and the reporter has at least tried 
to exclude as many other influences as possible. 

And if it is reproducible on one machine, but network access or file system or 
fonts or printing are involved, I urge users to try it on another machine to 
exclude local configuration problems.

Why all those efforts? Without a reproducible case you won’t find a person or 
company to investigate the problem unless you are a $ customer.

You seem to have a good record of what exactly you did. Can you reproduce what 
you have seen?

- Michael

Am 29.12.2009 um 21:24 schrieb Galanter, Lea:

> I'm not sure how to report this, but Frame 9 just crashed on me when I
> had two files open (named About Blah and Configuring Blah), and when I
> re-opened both files, they were exactly the same. That means, I totally
> lost all the text in one of the files. I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7
> and I was working in the Configuring Blah file and selected Conditional
> Text to apply a condition to some text. Frame crashed and then re-opened
> itself. When Frame opened the Configuring Blah chapter.recover file, all
> my original text was gone and replaced with the text from the About Blah
> chapter! Even the Configuring Blah.backup file had been converted to the
> text from the About Blah.backup file.
> 
> I don't know if anyone else has ever experienced this problem, but this
> is major. Assuming I can even get the previous version from my company's
> source control, this is still hours and hours of work to re-create. This
> is a major bug in Frame. How do I report it?
> 
> Lea Galanter

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Slightly OT: FrameScript Sale

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Hi,

Just in case you haven't noticed it and you are interested in exploring the 
possibilities of making the computer work for you (instead of "waiting" for 
you), you might want to have a look at using the FrameMaker API via a scripting 
environment. It is 12 years since the first version of FrameScript was 
published and until Monday, November 30th the online store at

http://www.framescript.com/

gives everyone a 25% discount. Call it Anniversary Sale, call it Thanksgiving 
Sale, call it Black Friday sale. It is a good option especially for existing 
customers to upgrade to the latest version 5.x, which has the following 
benefits:

? Support for all versions of FrameMaker from 6 thru 9
? Ability to modify the open/save XML process
? No dependence on FrameMaker license key because of separate online 
activation, one activation is valid for all FrameMaker installation on a single 
computer
? Starting with 5 licenses local activation is an option
? Improved documentation structure
? Example scripts for new features

and if you are still using version 3.x you already missed those improvements of 
version 4:

? Step by step script debugger
? Increased performance because of optimized script parser
? Create your own dialogs

- Michael

Disclaimer: I am a satisfied, regular user of FrameScript and offer custom 
script programming to clients in Europe. 

Slightly OT: FrameScript Sale

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Hi,

Just in case you haven't noticed it and you are interested in exploring the 
possibilities of making the computer work for you (instead of "waiting" for 
you), you might want to have a look at using the FrameMaker API via a scripting 
environment. It is 12 years since the first version of FrameScript was 
published and until Monday, November 30th the online store at

http://www.framescript.com/

gives everyone a 25% discount. Call it Anniversary Sale, call it Thanksgiving 
Sale, call it Black Friday sale. It is a good option especially for existing 
customers to upgrade to the latest version 5.x, which has the following 
benefits:

• Support for all versions of FrameMaker from 6 thru 9
• Ability to modify the open/save XML process
• No dependence on FrameMaker license key because of separate online 
activation, one activation is valid for all FrameMaker installation on a single 
computer
• Starting with 5 licenses local activation is an option
• Improved documentation structure
• Example scripts for new features

and if you are still using version 3.x you already missed those improvements of 
version 4:

• Step by step script debugger
• Increased performance because of optimized script parser
• Create your own dialogs

- Michael

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Adobe's upgrade rort

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Wow, I learn new vocabulary on this list. My dictionary tells me:

> rort |r?rt|
> noun Austral., informal
> 1 [often with adj. ] a fraudulent or dishonest act or practice : a  
> tax rort.
> 2 a wild party.


I assume you are not talking about the admission fee to a wild upgrade  
party ;-)

The price difference was noted in other places as well, but... as Dov  
pointed out, it is the responsibility of product management to find  
the "right" price. There is the concept of value-based pricing; each  
company is trying to optimize the profit by charging as much as  
possible without reducing the buying rate. If strategic considerations  
like "do nothing that loyal, existing customers might consider unfair"  
are always weighed in as much as we would like, I don't know.

In the past there were two editions of FrameMaker: an English-only  
version, and an international version which could be installed with  
English, French, German, or Japanese UI. I don't know if that is still  
true.

In the end it comes down to value: If the upgrade price is too high,  
you have to skip it.

- Michael


Am 18.10.2009 um 21:40 schrieb Alan Litchfield:

> Can anyone explain to me why it is that Adobe charges USD399 for the
> upgrade of FrameMaker to version 9 for domestic customers but USD515
> for the same thing for International customers.
>
> There are no shipping costs when it has been downloaded and even if
> shipping were included I don't see how they can charge USD116 for
> shipping a small box anyway.
>
> No I haven't asked Adobe, who there could possibly tell me. Certainly
> no one on the helpdesk.

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Re: Adobe's upgrade rort

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Wow, I learn new vocabulary on this list. My dictionary tells me:

> rort |rɔrt|
> noun Austral., informal
> 1 [often with adj. ] a fraudulent or dishonest act or practice : a  
> tax rort.
> 2 a wild party.


I assume you are not talking about the admission fee to a wild upgrade  
party ;-)

The price difference was noted in other places as well, but... as Dov  
pointed out, it is the responsibility of product management to find  
the "right" price. There is the concept of value-based pricing; each  
company is trying to optimize the profit by charging as much as  
possible without reducing the buying rate. If strategic considerations  
like "do nothing that loyal, existing customers might consider unfair"  
are always weighed in as much as we would like, I don't know.

In the past there were two editions of FrameMaker: an English-only  
version, and an international version which could be installed with  
English, French, German, or Japanese UI. I don't know if that is still  
true.

In the end it comes down to value: If the upgrade price is too high,  
you have to skip it.

- Michael


Am 18.10.2009 um 21:40 schrieb Alan Litchfield:

> Can anyone explain to me why it is that Adobe charges USD399 for the
> upgrade of FrameMaker to version 9 for domestic customers but USD515
> for the same thing for International customers.
>
> There are no shipping costs when it has been downloaded and even if
> shipping were included I don't see how they can charge USD116 for
> shipping a small box anyway.
>
> No I haven't asked Adobe, who there could possibly tell me. Certainly
> no one on the helpdesk.

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FrameMaker 8 installation files downloadable anywhere?

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

See here, at Adobe:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4549

I am not sure if it is the latest patch release (8.0p277), so if it is  
not, you need to apply patch installers, all listed here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windows

Good luck,

- Michael

Am 12.09.2009 um 00:42 schrieb  :

> Hi, all.
>
> My old laptop is not functioning and I need to migrate to a new one  
> that
> is now on my desk.
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot find my FrameMaker 8 disks anywhere  
> (although I
> have the license info printed and saved away luckily) ... is there any
> place on the Adobe web site that I can use to download the  
> installation
> file?
>
> I can only see the FrameMaker 9 file on their site, but since I am not
> yet using that ... unfortunately, it will not work.
>
> Help!
>
> Z

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Re: FrameMaker 8 installation files downloadable anywhere?

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

See here, at Adobe:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4549

I am not sure if it is the latest patch release (8.0p277), so if it is  
not, you need to apply patch installers, all listed here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windows

Good luck,

- Michael

Am 12.09.2009 um 00:42 schrieb  :

> Hi, all.
>
> My old laptop is not functioning and I need to migrate to a new one  
> that
> is now on my desk.
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot find my FrameMaker 8 disks anywhere  
> (although I
> have the license info printed and saved away luckily) ... is there any
> place on the Adobe web site that I can use to download the  
> installation
> file?
>
> I can only see the FrameMaker 9 file on their site, but since I am not
> yet using that ... unfortunately, it will not work.
>
> Help!
>
> Z

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Keyboard Shortcut Bug in FrameMaker 9

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

I can confirm this, I noticed the effect just this week.

It seems to me the effect (bug) is connected to the current document  
focus. There are situations where you cannot tell from looking at the  
screen which document and/or pod has the focus. Also I read reports  
that the FDK can sometimes not report the active document to plug-ins.  
There are many challenges with the new UI...

Thanks for the workaround idea!

- Michael

Am 25.07.2009 um 17:58 schrieb Joseph Lorenzini:

> Hi all,
>
> I have been using FM 9 for several months, and I have noticed buggy  
> behavior with keyboard short cuts. I wonder if anyone else is  
> experiencing the same behavior.  I am a keyboard shortcut junkie and  
> use them all the time--sometimes I don't use my mouse for hours.  
> Here are the bugs that I have noticed and they are really, really,  
> really annoying:
> keyboard shortcuts randomly stop working and then start working  
> again. This doesn't affect the shortcut to paragraph tags (F9) and  
> character tags(F8) but it does affect all other shortcuts such as  
> table straddles (esc t+l) or page breaks (esc s+p+b)
> Shortcuts to variables (ctrl+0), paragraph(F9), and character  
> tags(F8) stop working. When I press the keyboard shortcut, the lower  
> left hand corner shows the type of shortcut (such as "v:" for  
> variable) but the menu is grayed out. In order to get these  
> shortcuts to work, I need to minimize and maximize the framemaker  
> window.
>  Anyone know what's going on? Is there a fix for this? I believe I  
> have the most current patch for FM 9.

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut Bug in FrameMaker 9

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

I can confirm this, I noticed the effect just this week.

It seems to me the effect (bug) is connected to the current document  
focus. There are situations where you cannot tell from looking at the  
screen which document and/or pod has the focus. Also I read reports  
that the FDK can sometimes not report the active document to plug-ins.  
There are many challenges with the new UI...

Thanks for the workaround idea!

- Michael

Am 25.07.2009 um 17:58 schrieb Joseph Lorenzini:

> Hi all,
>
> I have been using FM 9 for several months, and I have noticed buggy  
> behavior with keyboard short cuts. I wonder if anyone else is  
> experiencing the same behavior.  I am a keyboard shortcut junkie and  
> use them all the time--sometimes I don't use my mouse for hours.  
> Here are the bugs that I have noticed and they are really, really,  
> really annoying:
> keyboard shortcuts randomly stop working and then start working  
> again. This doesn't affect the shortcut to paragraph tags (F9) and  
> character tags(F8) but it does affect all other shortcuts such as  
> table straddles (esc t+l) or page breaks (esc s+p+b)
> Shortcuts to variables (ctrl+0), paragraph(F9), and character  
> tags(F8) stop working. When I press the keyboard shortcut, the lower  
> left hand corner shows the type of shortcut (such as "v:" for  
> variable) but the menu is grayed out. In order to get these  
> shortcuts to work, I need to minimize and maximize the framemaker  
> window.
>  Anyone know what's going on? Is there a fix for this? I believe I  
> have the most current patch for FM 9.

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Frame crashes when importing large XML file

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 06.07.2009 um 11:25 schrieb Diane Gaskill:

> Hi everyone,
>
> FM8, structured
> XML, DocBook 4.2  (I know, I know. Not my idea, but an OEM customer  
> requires
> it).
> WinXP Pro
> 4 GB RAM
> 160 GB HDD

I noticed memory leaks starting with FrameMaker 7.2. Memory was not  
released after opening XML files and if you opened a lot of XML files  
you run into trouble sooner or later.

The problem was/is still there in FrameMaker 8. In a recent project  
with custom XML files (used to create ~250 page books with ~20 chapter  
files) FrameMaker 8 always crashed while opening the third book.

The good news: FrameMaker 9.0.2 processed the exact same XML files  
without a problem, 21 books in a row.

Maybe you can make a test with FrameMaker 9.

- Michael


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Re: Frame crashes when importing large XML file

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 06.07.2009 um 11:25 schrieb Diane Gaskill:

> Hi everyone,
>
> FM8, structured
> XML, DocBook 4.2  (I know, I know. Not my idea, but an OEM customer  
> requires
> it).
> WinXP Pro
> 4 GB RAM
> 160 GB HDD

I noticed memory leaks starting with FrameMaker 7.2. Memory was not  
released after opening XML files and if you opened a lot of XML files  
you run into trouble sooner or later.

The problem was/is still there in FrameMaker 8. In a recent project  
with custom XML files (used to create ~250 page books with ~20 chapter  
files) FrameMaker 8 always crashed while opening the third book.

The good news: FrameMaker 9.0.2 processed the exact same XML files  
without a problem, 21 books in a row.

Maybe you can make a test with FrameMaker 9.

- Michael


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FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 18.06.2009 um 16:57 schrieb Art Campbell:

> your sequence of PDFs and posts seems to confirm the long-standing
> ideas that:
>
> 1.) SaveAs PDF from within FrameMaker uses a different workflow and
> different options than Printing to a PDF logical printer, and

When I once compared a PostScript file created by both workflows they  
were almost identical (apart from some different dates). As I  
understand, the original problem was connected to the fact that during  
Save As PDF the process did not always successfully switch to the  
Adobe PDF printer. Some people with FrameMaker 7.x report that on  
certain machines (not every machine!) Save As PDF works fine if they  
make Adobe PDF the default printer. So in my opinion it is more of an  
Acrobat or general installation issue than something with FrameMaker.

> 2.) SaveAs PDF is not the preferred method of creating a PDF. It's
> been broken or flakey in multiple (all?) releases, and there have
> been, or still are, problems in FM 9.


It seems to me this will be a long-standing legend. The development  
team apparently invested quite a bit into this process. Try to catch  
the .tps file when using FrameMaker 9?s Save As PDF process, it is  
very hard. Certain features are only available using Save As PDF.

I say that Save As PDF _is_ _now_ the preferred way to create PDFs.  
You have to clear installation issues, of course. And I admit that  
some people have machines with issues. Even I had some problems when  
starting with FrameMaker 9 & Acrobat 9 initially, but the Microsoft  
hotfix solved those printer driver memory problems (it was not a  
FrameMaker issue!):



Whenever I do some programming for clients to create multiple PDF  
files in a row, I always use Save As PDF (with some programmatic  
pauses to give Distiller some room to breathe).

Recalling two more things from the last years, where in the end  
FrameMaker 7 was not to blame:

* One client couldn't distill a very large PostScript (300+ Mbyte)  
file successfully. The exact same PostScript file worked okay at my  
machine (in a 512 MByte RAM virtual XP machine).

* One client had a computer where a few times a week Distiller would  
report a PostScript error. When the file was subsequently distilled  
manually there was no problem. The machine served some network  
management purposes as well. As soon as the FrameMaker production  
tasks were installed on a separate machine, everything was fine again.

My bottom line: Since we are all working a lot with FrameMaker, we  
tend to blame it for things that may have its cause in other, darker  
places inside our computers. I am not saying that FrameMaker is bug- 
free. But there is no reason to warn against using Save As PDF.

- Michael

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Re: FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 18.06.2009 um 16:57 schrieb Art Campbell:

> your sequence of PDFs and posts seems to confirm the long-standing
> ideas that:
>
> 1.) SaveAs PDF from within FrameMaker uses a different workflow and
> different options than Printing to a PDF logical printer, and

When I once compared a PostScript file created by both workflows they  
were almost identical (apart from some different dates). As I  
understand, the original problem was connected to the fact that during  
Save As PDF the process did not always successfully switch to the  
Adobe PDF printer. Some people with FrameMaker 7.x report that on  
certain machines (not every machine!) Save As PDF works fine if they  
make Adobe PDF the default printer. So in my opinion it is more of an  
Acrobat or general installation issue than something with FrameMaker.

> 2.) SaveAs PDF is not the preferred method of creating a PDF. It's
> been broken or flakey in multiple (all?) releases, and there have
> been, or still are, problems in FM 9.


It seems to me this will be a long-standing legend. The development  
team apparently invested quite a bit into this process. Try to catch  
the .tps file when using FrameMaker 9’s Save As PDF process, it is  
very hard. Certain features are only available using Save As PDF.

I say that Save As PDF _is_ _now_ the preferred way to create PDFs.  
You have to clear installation issues, of course. And I admit that  
some people have machines with issues. Even I had some problems when  
starting with FrameMaker 9 & Acrobat 9 initially, but the Microsoft  
hotfix solved those printer driver memory problems (it was not a  
FrameMaker issue!):

<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952909/en-us>

Whenever I do some programming for clients to create multiple PDF  
files in a row, I always use Save As PDF (with some programmatic  
pauses to give Distiller some room to breathe).

Recalling two more things from the last years, where in the end  
FrameMaker 7 was not to blame:

* One client couldn't distill a very large PostScript (300+ Mbyte)  
file successfully. The exact same PostScript file worked okay at my  
machine (in a 512 MByte RAM virtual XP machine).

* One client had a computer where a few times a week Distiller would  
report a PostScript error. When the file was subsequently distilled  
manually there was no problem. The machine served some network  
management purposes as well. As soon as the FrameMaker production  
tasks were installed on a separate machine, everything was fine again.

My bottom line: Since we are all working a lot with FrameMaker, we  
tend to blame it for things that may have its cause in other, darker  
places inside our computers. I am not saying that FrameMaker is bug- 
free. But there is no reason to warn against using Save As PDF.

- Michael

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Possible to suppress Save As XML via structapps.fm setting?

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Good morning colleagues,

I have a structured application with some XSL preprocessing that  
removes certain data from the XML source when opened by FrameMaker.

Now I want to make sure that the user does not accidentally save this  
document/book as XML again. Currently I present a warning based on an  
script that monitors the NotePreSaveXML event, but I would prefer a  
solution independent of additional software.

Do you know of a way to configure the XMLApplication in the  
structapps.fm to block Save As XML? To raise an error would be  
acceptable.

Thanks,

- Michael M?ller-Hillebrand

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Possible to suppress Save As XML via structapps.fm setting?

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Good morning colleagues,

I have a structured application with some XSL preprocessing that  
removes certain data from the XML source when opened by FrameMaker.

Now I want to make sure that the user does not accidentally save this  
document/book as XML again. Currently I present a warning based on an  
script that monitors the NotePreSaveXML event, but I would prefer a  
solution independent of additional software.

Do you know of a way to configure the XMLApplication in the  
structapps.fm to block Save As XML? To raise an error would be  
acceptable.

Thanks,

- Michael Müller-Hillebrand

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FM9: Hyperlinks in IOR doen't work in PDF

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 20.03.2009 um 11:01 schrieb Yves Barbion:

> I've got a hyperlinked index of references (IOR) in my FM9 book. In  
> my PDF,
> however, the hyperlinks no longer work.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this?


I can confirm this (German version) for List Of References as well as  
Index of References. TOC and IX work as expected.

I also see that the PDF Settings which I select during the Save As PDF  
process for the book are no longer written back to the documents, that  
is I have to set them again for the next PDF generation from the same  
book, unless I set the desired settings inside the first document of  
the book.

- Michael

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Re: FM9: Hyperlinks in IOR doen't work in PDF

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 20.03.2009 um 11:01 schrieb Yves Barbion:

> I've got a hyperlinked index of references (IOR) in my FM9 book. In  
> my PDF,
> however, the hyperlinks no longer work.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this?


I can confirm this (German version) for List Of References as well as  
Index of References. TOC and IX work as expected.

I also see that the PDF Settings which I select during the Save As PDF  
process for the book are no longer written back to the documents, that  
is I have to set them again for the next PDF generation from the same  
book, unless I set the desired settings inside the first document of  
the book.

- Michael

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[TCS Users] FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 18.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Yves Barbion:

> Hi
>
> I'm using FM 9.0p230 and I see that the list of building blocks in  
> the Paragraph Designer is ... empty!

Confirmed for the German UI.

- Michael


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FrameMaker 9.0.1 Update Now Available ... Come and Get It!

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

First observations:

Good news:

F8 and F9 support for type-ahead selection of character and pgf  
formats does work (again). Also, of course, Ctrl+0 for variable  
insertion, Ctrl+1/2/3 for element actions, Ctrl+4/5 for text condition  
actions.

PDF graphics are no longer RGB-rasterized when creating PDFs (RGB or  
CMYK).

Bad news:

At least in the German locale the commands popup in the Paragraph /  
Character / Table Designer does not open on mouse click. In the  
Paragraph / Table Designer it works after switching once between the  
visible tabs, but for the Character Designer this does not help. Could  
someone check this with other language versions, please?

EMF graphics turn into ugly black stripes when creating a CMYK PDF. I  
know, EMF does not know anything about CMYK, but must the result be so  
ugly...

- Michael

Am 18.03.2009 um 04:58 schrieb Dov Isaacs:

> The FrameMaker 9.0.1 update has just been released. You can get it  
> via the updates
> feature within FrameMaker (or any other current Adobe application).
>
>   - Dov

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Re: [TCS Users] FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 18.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Yves Barbion:

> Hi
>
> I'm using FM 9.0p230 and I see that the list of building blocks in  
> the Paragraph Designer is ... empty!

Confirmed for the German UI.

- Michael


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Re: FrameMaker 9.0.1 Update Now Available ... Come and Get It!

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

First observations:

Good news:

F8 and F9 support for type-ahead selection of character and pgf  
formats does work (again). Also, of course, Ctrl+0 for variable  
insertion, Ctrl+1/2/3 for element actions, Ctrl+4/5 for text condition  
actions.

PDF graphics are no longer RGB-rasterized when creating PDFs (RGB or  
CMYK).

Bad news:

At least in the German locale the commands popup in the Paragraph /  
Character / Table Designer does not open on mouse click. In the  
Paragraph / Table Designer it works after switching once between the  
visible tabs, but for the Character Designer this does not help. Could  
someone check this with other language versions, please?

EMF graphics turn into ugly black stripes when creating a CMYK PDF. I  
know, EMF does not know anything about CMYK, but must the result be so  
ugly...

- Michael

Am 18.03.2009 um 04:58 schrieb Dov Isaacs:

> The FrameMaker 9.0.1 update has just been released. You can get it  
> via the updates
> feature within FrameMaker (or any other current Adobe application).
>
>   - Dov

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FM9 show stoppers

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 23.01.2009 um 12:20 schrieb Klaus Daube:

> The second one is a tough experience:
> Backspace has become a nightmare on my 3MHz machine with 4GB of RAM. I
> can not correct input in the usual manner, because i have typed to  
> many
> times until the program reacts! Do I need to switch off UNDO (which is
> not possible)? I have already switched off "show warnings while
> cleaning history", "Checkout HTTP...", "Upload HTTP..." in  
> preferences.
>
> Also the arrow keys - used for example, to extend a selection - a-r- 
> e-v-
> e-r-y-s-l-o-w! This is NOT an issue of my machine - no other program
> has this behaviour.


Klaus,

Can you create a test scenario? What pods are open? Maybe with one of  
the template documents that ship with the product?

When using the default "Authoring" workspace setup I cannot see the  
typing and selection slowdowns you experience. And I run WinXP in a  
virtual machine...

- Michael

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Re: FM9 show stoppers

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 23.01.2009 um 12:20 schrieb Klaus Daube:

> The second one is a tough experience:
> Backspace has become a nightmare on my 3MHz machine with 4GB of RAM. I
> can not correct input in the usual manner, because i have typed to  
> many
> times until the program reacts! Do I need to switch off UNDO (which is
> not possible)? I have already switched off "show warnings while
> cleaning history", "Checkout HTTP...", "Upload HTTP..." in  
> preferences.
>
> Also the arrow keys - used for example, to extend a selection - a-r- 
> e-v-
> e-r-y-s-l-o-w! This is NOT an issue of my machine - no other program
> has this behaviour.


Klaus,

Can you create a test scenario? What pods are open? Maybe with one of  
the template documents that ship with the product?

When using the default "Authoring" workspace setup I cannot see the  
typing and selection slowdowns you experience. And I run WinXP in a  
virtual machine...

- Michael

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MIF2Go: specifying anchor names

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

As an aside, i.e. not answering the original question: I have heard  
such requests also, but in most cases it is a misunderstanding of the  
concept of an ID! I am sure you tried to talk the client out of it,  
but, anyway, I will give you some more reasons *not* to use  
descriptive IDs or anchor names:

* Who guarantees the uniqueness of the anchor names, before and after  
translation? Or speaking in business case: Who pays for the effort  
needed to manage all used anchor names?

* In translation tools marker content can be seen and will be  
translated if it is natural language text! This most probably breaks  
the links in other languages.

* In XML there are certain limits what kind of characters an ID may  
consist of, like beginning with a ASCII letter (I seem to remember).  
So there might be problems if the oh so descriptive term starts with a  
digit or with an accented character from a foreign language.

Even if those reasons are not applicable for your current project, it  
is always a good idea to see potential problems before the clients  
asks us to fix them.

- Michael


Am 09.01.2009 um 16:44 schrieb Rick Quatro:

> access
>
> My links are like this:
>
> The granting or withholding of a service or  href="#Xaf1003728">access to a resource to a requestor based... p>
>
> Now my client has thrown me what I hope is a little curve: they want  
> more
> descriptive anchor names; for example,
>
> access
> The granting or withholding of a service or  href="#access">access
> to a resource to a requestor based...

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Re: MIF2Go: specifying anchor names

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

As an aside, i.e. not answering the original question: I have heard  
such requests also, but in most cases it is a misunderstanding of the  
concept of an ID! I am sure you tried to talk the client out of it,  
but, anyway, I will give you some more reasons *not* to use  
descriptive IDs or anchor names:

* Who guarantees the uniqueness of the anchor names, before and after  
translation? Or speaking in business case: Who pays for the effort  
needed to manage all used anchor names?

* In translation tools marker content can be seen and will be  
translated if it is natural language text! This most probably breaks  
the links in other languages.

* In XML there are certain limits what kind of characters an ID may  
consist of, like beginning with a ASCII letter (I seem to remember).  
So there might be problems if the oh so descriptive term starts with a  
digit or with an accented character from a foreign language.

Even if those reasons are not applicable for your current project, it  
is always a good idea to see potential problems before the clients  
asks us to fix them.

- Michael


Am 09.01.2009 um 16:44 schrieb Rick Quatro:

> access
>
> My links are like this:
>
> The granting or withholding of a service or  href="#Xaf1003728">access to a resource to a requestor based... p>
>
> Now my client has thrown me what I hope is a little curve: they want  
> more
> descriptive anchor names; for example,
>
> access
> The granting or withholding of a service or  href="#access">access
> to a resource to a requestor based...

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Removing whitespaces from an xml file

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Salvador,

Could you tell us which version of frameMaker you are using and  
possibly provide a small sample of the source XML as well as of the  
DTD definitions connected to the element. I guess there is a  
connection to "mixed content".

- Michael

Am 28.10.2008 um 03:54 schrieb  
:

> Hello everyone!
>
> My problem is this, I'm opening xml files into framemaker, with of  
> course my created dtd everything seems alright but then when I look  
> into its structure view, these "whitespaces" appears to be an error.
>
> How then could I possibly erase or removed these  upon  
> opening it to my framemaker?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>   Best regards,
>
> Salvador B. Soriano Jr

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Re: Removing whitespaces from an xml file

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Salvador,

Could you tell us which version of frameMaker you are using and  
possibly provide a small sample of the source XML as well as of the  
DTD definitions connected to the element. I guess there is a  
connection to "mixed content".

- Michael

Am 28.10.2008 um 03:54 schrieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 >:

> Hello everyone!
>
> My problem is this, I'm opening xml files into framemaker, with of  
> course my created dtd everything seems alright but then when I look  
> into its structure view, these "whitespaces" appears to be an error.
>
> How then could I possibly erase or removed these  upon  
> opening it to my framemaker?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>   Best regards,
>
> Salvador B. Soriano Jr

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Commas in paragraph tags

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Okay, now I tried it and it does not work with the backslash.

It will not help you, but the pgf format name is not well chosen  
anyway: Using "H2 Heading2" would have anabled easy access to the  
format using the Ctrl+9 (or F9) shortcut to select pgf formats from  
the status area. But of course, the original designer would have  
chosen "H2, Heading2"... :-(

There are plug-ins and solutions available to change pgf format names  
for documents and books in a batch process.

Sorry,

- Michael


Am 27.10.2008 um 17:47 schrieb Michael M?ller-Hillebrand:

> Have you tried putting a backslash in front of the comma to 'escape'
> the special function fo the entry separator?
>
> - Michael
>
> Am 27.10.2008 um 16:56 schrieb Charles Beck:
>
>> Esteemed Framers,
>>
>> I have a problem I am hoping someone can help me solve. I have
>> searched
>> the Frame documentation to no avail. I do not have time to search
>> through all the archives for this list; so please forgive if the
>> info is
>> there (which I rather doubt).
>>
>> I have a set of templates that I inherited. I want to use the
>> Heading 2
>> paragraph style in a running header. Unfortunately, the paragraph
>> style
>> is actually named "Heading 2,H2", which confuses FrameMaker when
>> encountered in a system variable paragraph tag <$paratext[Heading
>> 2,H2]>. Frame thinks it is a multiple style reference because of the
>> comma. That much I have learned from the documentation.
>>
>> The question is, short of renaming the paragraph style (which is not
>> really an option for us), is there any way to get Frame to recognized
>> this as a single paragraph style in a paragraph tag for a running
>> header?
>>
>> Please reply to me directly, as I am on digest.
>>
>> TIA for whatever help anyone can give me!
>>
>> Chuck Beck
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Re: Commas in paragraph tags

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Okay, now I tried it and it does not work with the backslash.

It will not help you, but the pgf format name is not well chosen  
anyway: Using "H2 Heading2" would have anabled easy access to the  
format using the Ctrl+9 (or F9) shortcut to select pgf formats from  
the status area. But of course, the original designer would have  
chosen "H2, Heading2"... :-(

There are plug-ins and solutions available to change pgf format names  
for documents and books in a batch process.

Sorry,

- Michael


Am 27.10.2008 um 17:47 schrieb Michael Müller-Hillebrand:

> Have you tried putting a backslash in front of the comma to 'escape'
> the special function fo the entry separator?
>
> - Michael
>
> Am 27.10.2008 um 16:56 schrieb Charles Beck:
>
>> Esteemed Framers,
>>
>> I have a problem I am hoping someone can help me solve. I have
>> searched
>> the Frame documentation to no avail. I do not have time to search
>> through all the archives for this list; so please forgive if the
>> info is
>> there (which I rather doubt).
>>
>> I have a set of templates that I inherited. I want to use the
>> Heading 2
>> paragraph style in a running header. Unfortunately, the paragraph
>> style
>> is actually named "Heading 2,H2", which confuses FrameMaker when
>> encountered in a system variable paragraph tag <$paratext[Heading
>> 2,H2]>. Frame thinks it is a multiple style reference because of the
>> comma. That much I have learned from the documentation.
>>
>> The question is, short of renaming the paragraph style (which is not
>> really an option for us), is there any way to get Frame to recognized
>> this as a single paragraph style in a paragraph tag for a running
>> header?
>>
>> Please reply to me directly, as I am on digest.
>>
>> TIA for whatever help anyone can give me!
>>
>> Chuck Beck
>
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Commas in paragraph tags

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Have you tried putting a backslash in front of the comma to 'escape'  
the special function fo the entry separator?

- Michael

Am 27.10.2008 um 16:56 schrieb Charles Beck:

> Esteemed Framers,
>
> I have a problem I am hoping someone can help me solve. I have  
> searched
> the Frame documentation to no avail. I do not have time to search
> through all the archives for this list; so please forgive if the  
> info is
> there (which I rather doubt).
>
> I have a set of templates that I inherited. I want to use the  
> Heading 2
> paragraph style in a running header. Unfortunately, the paragraph  
> style
> is actually named "Heading 2,H2", which confuses FrameMaker when
> encountered in a system variable paragraph tag <$paratext[Heading
> 2,H2]>. Frame thinks it is a multiple style reference because of the
> comma. That much I have learned from the documentation.
>
> The question is, short of renaming the paragraph style (which is not
> really an option for us), is there any way to get Frame to recognized
> this as a single paragraph style in a paragraph tag for a running
> header?
>
> Please reply to me directly, as I am on digest.
>
> TIA for whatever help anyone can give me!
>
> Chuck Beck

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Re: Commas in paragraph tags

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Have you tried putting a backslash in front of the comma to 'escape'  
the special function fo the entry separator?

- Michael

Am 27.10.2008 um 16:56 schrieb Charles Beck:

> Esteemed Framers,
>
> I have a problem I am hoping someone can help me solve. I have  
> searched
> the Frame documentation to no avail. I do not have time to search
> through all the archives for this list; so please forgive if the  
> info is
> there (which I rather doubt).
>
> I have a set of templates that I inherited. I want to use the  
> Heading 2
> paragraph style in a running header. Unfortunately, the paragraph  
> style
> is actually named "Heading 2,H2", which confuses FrameMaker when
> encountered in a system variable paragraph tag <$paratext[Heading
> 2,H2]>. Frame thinks it is a multiple style reference because of the
> comma. That much I have learned from the documentation.
>
> The question is, short of renaming the paragraph style (which is not
> really an option for us), is there any way to get Frame to recognized
> this as a single paragraph style in a paragraph tag for a running
> header?
>
> Please reply to me directly, as I am on digest.
>
> TIA for whatever help anyone can give me!
>
> Chuck Beck

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InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 12.09.2008 um 10:44 schrieb Amnon Yaish:

> Does ID have
> anything comparable to a FM edd ?


A FrameMaker EDD is: validating structure rules combined with context- 
aware, automatic, ready-for-print formatting.

InDesign has nothing like that.

If you (just) use an EDD to format XML documents for publishing (not  
editing nor authoring!), you can achieve the same effect in InDesign  
(although implemented totally different) by using an XSL  
transformation to add special attributes to the XML document which  
instruct InDesign to select certain formats. Further thing are  
possible using XML rules. But _- again -- that only applies to mere  
publishing tasks.

- Michael M?ller-Hillebrand


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InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 12.09.2008 um 00:17 schrieb Peter Gold:

> Hi, Dov:
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
>> To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker,  
>> InDesign
>> was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a "replacement for  
>> FrameMaker."
>>
>> Yes, over time a number of FrameMaker features have been  
>> incorporated into
>> InDesign, but unless you are using none of FrameMaker's structured  
>> features
>> (support for XML and DITA), and conditional text, equations, etc.,  
>> InDesign
>> won't satisfy your needs.
>
> InDesign's XML abilities are used in database publishing and other
> automated workflows. It also works with DTDs. Can you comment the pros
> and cons of FM's XML support vs. ID's XML support?

Both products can be used to *publish* XML documents, with differences  
in details.

Only FrameMaker provides a validating *authoring* environment for long  
XML-structured documents.

- Michael


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Re: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 12.09.2008 um 00:17 schrieb Peter Gold:

> Hi, Dov:
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Dov Isaacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker,  
>> InDesign
>> was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a "replacement for  
>> FrameMaker."
>>
>> Yes, over time a number of FrameMaker features have been  
>> incorporated into
>> InDesign, but unless you are using none of FrameMaker's structured  
>> features
>> (support for XML and DITA), and conditional text, equations, etc.,  
>> InDesign
>> won't satisfy your needs.
>
> InDesign's XML abilities are used in database publishing and other
> automated workflows. It also works with DTDs. Can you comment the pros
> and cons of FM's XML support vs. ID's XML support?

Both products can be used to *publish* XML documents, with differences  
in details.

Only FrameMaker provides a validating *authoring* environment for long  
XML-structured documents.

- Michael


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MIF to SGML/XML

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

http://www.leximation.com/tools/mifml/

does a 100% conversion from MIF to XML. I used it to mass change  
unstructured FrameMaker documents to custom XML using MIFML as the  
starting point, followed by quite a bit of custom XSL stylesheets.

- Michael M?ller-Hillebrand

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584
CBSS/GBHAC  wrote:
> Hello fellow FrameManiacs,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of an application  that converts MIF to XML and/or
> SGML,  besides the Maximus application made by Xorba inc? I hear that
> the company is defunct, so I have to find and alternative.
>
> We have an older copy of Maximus that is quite buggy. If we could  
> find a
> copy of the latest source code, we could fix the bugs and use Max  
> until
> we find something else.


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Re: MIF to SGML/XML

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

http://www.leximation.com/tools/mifml/

does a 100% conversion from MIF to XML. I used it to mass change  
unstructured FrameMaker documents to custom XML using MIFML as the  
starting point, followed by quite a bit of custom XSL stylesheets.

- Michael Müller-Hillebrand

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584
CBSS/GBHAC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello fellow FrameManiacs,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of an application  that converts MIF to XML and/or
> SGML,  besides the Maximus application made by Xorba inc? I hear that
> the company is defunct, so I have to find and alternative.
>
> We have an older copy of Maximus that is quite buggy. If we could  
> find a
> copy of the latest source code, we could fix the bugs and use Max  
> until
> we find something else.


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Illustrator EPS compatibility

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

[I had a bad feeling dropping a message with a "loosely connected"  
topic into another thread.]

When saving Illustrator files as EPS you have the choice to select  
the Illustrator version, including a warning that you may loose some  
features when saving as an older versions.

I also remember that there was a case when dashed lines from an  
Illustrator EPS "escaped" from the encapsulation and created dashed  
lines elsewhere after distilling to a PDF. This was with a certain  
combination of FrameMaker and Acrobat versions. What I and others  
learned was that EPS encapsulation is not always encapsulating the EPS.

In other words, I hear advice that you should stick to a certain  
Illustrator version level for all EPS graphics unless your FrameMaker  
version is younger than your Illustrator version - presumably to give  
engineers the chance to improve the EPS import filter (or the PS  
creating engine?).

Or is that a myth? Will FrameMaker 7.0 without a problem process EPS  
files at Illustrator CS3 level?

If there is a dependency, I am looking for a compatibility table that  
shows which versions of Illustrator EPS files are supported by which  
version of FrameMaker.

Thanks,

- Michael

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Illustrator EPS compatibility

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

[I had a bad feeling dropping a message with a "loosely connected"  
topic into another thread.]

When saving Illustrator files as EPS you have the choice to select  
the Illustrator version, including a warning that you may loose some  
features when saving as an older versions.

I also remember that there was a case when dashed lines from an  
Illustrator EPS "escaped" from the encapsulation and created dashed  
lines elsewhere after distilling to a PDF. This was with a certain  
combination of FrameMaker and Acrobat versions. What I and others  
learned was that EPS encapsulation is not always encapsulating the EPS.

In other words, I hear advice that you should stick to a certain  
Illustrator version level for all EPS graphics unless your FrameMaker  
version is younger than your Illustrator version - presumably to give  
engineers the chance to improve the EPS import filter (or the PS  
creating engine?).

Or is that a myth? Will FrameMaker 7.0 without a problem process EPS  
files at Illustrator CS3 level?

If there is a dependency, I am looking for a compatibility table that  
shows which versions of Illustrator EPS files are supported by which  
version of FrameMaker.

Thanks,

- Michael

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Printing Error with FM

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Loosely connected to this:

Is there a list available which Illustrator versions/levels were  
supported by which FrameMaker versions?

 From time to time I am confronted with people having Illustrator  
CS2/3 but still use FrameMaker 7.0 (or 6.0, like Apple). So they need  
some advice to save EPS files as Illustrator .

Thanks,

- Michael


Am 04.06.2008 um 17:18 schrieb Dov Isaacs:

> .EPS files are "Encapsulated PostScript" containing a low resolution
> TIFF header and PostScript text. In the case of EPS saved from
> Illustrator, certain "private data" is stored in comments in the
> PostScript text from which Illustrator can properly "reopen" and  
> "edit"
> the EPS files saved from Illustrator.
>
> If you are having problems with EPS files saved from Adobe  
> Illustrator,
> check and make sure you are saving them as PostScript language level 2
> as opposed to PostScript language level 3. That is most likely the  
> cause
> of your problems!

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L?sungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode
 -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747