Rational SODA Tool
Dov, Steve, Steve, Joe, John, et. al - Thanks for the responses. I have what I need to help my colleague format an articulate, succinct discussion about why Framemaker should stay. Thanks again, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Stephen C. Gillespie Sr" 09/06/2006 09:53 AM To framers at lists.frameusers.com cc Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Subject Rational SODA Tool Tammy, Joe Malin, Steve Rickaby, et al. are correct about the Rational SODA tool ? it is not an authoring tool, but rather more of a collaboration tool. I worked in a sw dev team a few years ago, where Rational Suite was the standard. The Rational SODA piece is supposed to take content from the other Rational Suite artifacts such as requirements docs, and ?auto-generate? your document artifacts for you. BTW, Rational is supposed to work with Frame, but I never tried it. We didn?t use it (since our authoring tool was MS Word, it was way too labor-intensive and error-prone). Steve Gillespie, PMP Sr Information Development Analyst FedEx Express Memphis, TN 38125 901.434.9982
OT: Question about Rational SODA tool
My bad - as a technical writer, I should have been much more clear - she is being told that Framemaker is going bye-bye at her organization because the powers that be insist Rational Soda will do the same thing - not Framemaker overall going bye-bye. Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com Steve Rickaby 09/05/2006 12:42 PM To framers at FrameUsers.com cc Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com, "Joe Malin" Subject Re: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool At 08:46 -0600 5/9/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >I have a colleague who is being told that Framemaker is to go bye-bye very >soon and that she will be needing to use Rational SODA to develop her >documentation. And could we have some informed comment on this, please? I know folks like Bernard get sick of refuting 'FrameMaker is dead' rumors, but they scare the living wossnames out of the rest of us for whom FrameMaker is an essential part of our professional lives. -- Steve
OT: Question about Rational SODA tool
All, I have a colleague who is being told that Framemaker is to go bye-bye very soon and that she will be needing to use Rational SODA to develop her documentation. I have googled this tool (as has she) and if they (as in her powers-that-be) want a developer who likes to write, then this would appear to be the tool of choice; however, for "classic" end-user deliverables such as Sys Admin guides, User Guides, OLH, etc. is does not appear to be the tool to use. She is desperately needing some supporting arguments/input to validate why Framemaker needs to stay. Has anybody used this tool? Does anybody know anything about it? Arguments for/against using it as a classic TW tool? This list has so many literate, articulate and knowledgable folks, I am sure somebody has experience with this or can explain the for/against tool arguments and help her along - Fred, John, Shlomo, Steve, Peter, Lynn, Kay, Bernard, etc. . . . Calling all to arms! Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Format A Auto-numbering
Do you have another paragraph tag with autonumbering properties that also use the Series Label of "T" and that is being used BEFORE you insert the first table? Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
OT: Writing/editing style
Thanks for all of the responses. They were all over the board, from keeping the wording to getting rid of it, to changing the whole layout of the intro. to each procedure. Ultimately, the sugesstion I liked best was this: 1. Open application by double-clicking the icon in the System Tray. 2. On the Fleeglemeister tab, do ... That way, for your second step (which was the original question...), it doesn't matter which tab is displayed. The user is cued to GET to that tab, if they're not already on it so they can perform whatever's in the rest of step 2. Thanks again for all of the replies. It gave me alot to chew on and in the process, I learned some really nifty stuff and garnered some great ideas how to address other issues in this and other guides. Thanks again, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
OT: Writing/editing style
Well Richard, as you stated: Unless you're writing for complete computer novices You hit the nail right on the head - in some cases we are, in other cases we aren't. The crux of the matter is that both audiences will have to use this same guide. Plus, they will so infrequently use these background applications, that their learning curve would be just for the day that they are using the program and then it would be a fresh start all over again. So . . . . I dunno' at this point. I think waiting for customer feedback on the guide is what I need to do. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Combs, Richard" Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 08/10/2006 12:09 PM To cc Subject RE: OT: Writing/editing style Fred Ridder wrote: > Focus on essential steps (accomplishing the task at hand). > Assume automatic actions (like basic navigation). > Eliminate unnecessary words. I'm with Art and Fred. Unless you're writing for complete computer novices, don't describe _how_ to switch to another application or window. The reader may not even like the method you describe, preferring to use Alt-Tab. Just say, "In the Foo program's Bar tab, do X." Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Writing/editing style
Again, since there are so many veteran writers on this and who have learned through the years to maneuver their way through the editing process: I am writing to a major application, that when launched, results in three other applications being launched and running continuously in the background. Icons for these three applications are present in the user's System Tray. If a user double-clicks on one of these icons, the main window for the background application opens. The first time that a user opens the main window for one of these background applications, they open to a default tab. Then, let's say the user opens another tab on the main window, completes the actions that he/she needs to on the tab, then minimizes the main window, (remember, these applications cannot be closed while the main application is running. The user must always just minimize the main window for the background application), then re-opens the main window. Well, the last tab that user had open is now the tab that the user sees. This may or may not be the tab that the user needs, so in my instructions for procedures that are written for after the first time the user opens the window, I have this: 1.) In your system tray, double-click the [background application] icon. The [background application] window opens. 2.) If necessary, open the [tab]. I have added the if necessary because the tab may or may not be the right one that is open for the user. My editor has removed the "if necessary" phrase saying that they are extra words and that the user will eventually figure out that sometimes they don't need to open the tab - that it is already open. This seems counter-productive to me. We don't want the user to "eventually figure something out" in a User's guide - isn't the whole purpose of the guide to figure stuff out for the user? Believe me, there are some things worth falling on your sword for and others, not so much or not all, and I have let the not so much/not all go, but his statement that "the user will eventually figure it out" really irked me as it seems to be so very against the basic purpose of a User's Guide. Any thoughts, comments, etc. are appreciated. I will summarize the responses and go with the majority to make my decision as to whether I let this go or leave it in. Thanks so much, Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Going nutso' with a "phantom" cross-reference
Thank you Fred. Your very articulate statement at the end about If that's not possible, your SQA rules will just have to be modified to accept a list of exceptions for cross-references that are reported as unresolved for a particular set of show/hide condition settings. Checking for unresolved x-refs with all conditions showing establishes that all the x-refs are good, and you should then be able to document that the "bad" ones that are reported in the Book Errors windows when you publish any given conditionalized version are due only to hidden x-refs is just what I need to put into writing for my SQA folks. Solutions always come so fast on this list. Thanks again, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Going nutso' with a "phantom" cross-reference
Framemaker 7.1, all patches, Windows XP. I have a 12 file book that whenever generated gives the same single error message - unresolved cross-reference in a particular file in the book. When I click on the error message in the Book Error Log, however, I don't "jump" to the same location all of the time - sometimes it's page 1, sometimes page 10, etc. and sometimes, I get that unable to find the error in the file message. I have spent 4 hours trouble-shooting this guide to no avail! Since this is a container file for text insets and I use conditional text, I have done the following: I have manually checked each and every crosss-reference in the container file itself with all conditions turned on and no unresolved x-refs are found. I have manually checked each and every text inset in the container file with all conditions turned on and have found no unresolved x-refs. I have generated a PDF of the file and checked each and every x-ref for the 'dead link' syndrome and all links work as expected. I have used search and find on the container file with all conditions turned on and I get the message that no unresolved x-refs are found. I have used search and find on the text inset book and have even opned the text insets themselves in the container file and used search and find and I get the message that no unresolved x-refs are found. In frustration and desparation, I even searched for all x-ref markers in the file and found no errant markers. At this point, I am stumped and at a complete loss. The only reason that I am being so anal about this is that SQA rules dictate that the final version of any document checked in must be error-free and right now, I can't say that because I keep getting this single blasted error message. Any and all advice, thoughts, suggestions (virtual sledgehammers) are appreciated. Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
OT: Syntax for if/then statement
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al. LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!) and go from there. Thanks for all of the replies, support and knowledge. We'll see how it ends up. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
OT: Syntax for if/then statement
All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If , then . We have a new editor that just joined who is in the process of defining our styles and standards. Obviously, everyone has an opinion about what is "right" and what is "wrong" in editing . . .in many cases, it's so subjective. That said, when we have our editorial meetings about defining our styles and standards, you need to be prepared with some factual support for a certain type of style or standard - not just the emotional "because we've always done it this way." Years ago, I had such a reference for writing if/then statements this way - I don't remember which manual I referenced. Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if , AND then . Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and." I have tried for the life of me to find a documentation reference that would support this syntax (something like Sun's Read Me First guide, etc), and although I know I had one in the past, I can't find it now. Googling only leads me to programming references - the thin thread here would be since we are writing software documentation, if/then, would make sense, since that's where the if/then statement syntax was developed, but. . . . Any and all references/advice would be much appreciated. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Maximum length of GoToLink command?
For a variety of reasons, I have three instances of a Jump To hyperlink that must reference a file in a book, but the file is being pulled from a different directory than all other files in the book. Twice, I use this path: H:\EFB\Jepp EFB\UGs\AppManager\v1.1\Container Files\EFB_Use.fm:Set up flight information and the link works just fine. Once, I must use this path: H:\EFB\Jepp EFB\TSGs\AppManager\v1.1\Container Files\Maintenance.fm:Set up flight In the path that is used twice, the total number of characters including spaces is 88. In the path that is used once, the number is less - it's 81. Whenever I enter the path that is used once after the gotolink prompt and select Enter new hypertext marker, it gets converted to this garbage: H:\EFB\Jepp EFBSGs\AppManager\v1.1\Container Files\smaintenance.fm:Set up flight You can see that EFB\TSGs is now EFBSGs and Maintenance.fm is smaintenance.fm. Of course the link doesn't work and I give - I can enter the first path H:\EFB\Jepp EFB\UGs\AppManager\v1.1\Container Files\EFB_Use.fm:Set up flight information and this saves just fine and it even has more characters in it, so I am assuming that it can't be the number of characters, but I am at a loss to figure out why this second path is getting saved as this garbage when I select Enter new Hypertext marker. Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
PDF Generation question
Terry, David, Lin, Fred, Harro, Darrel, Daniel, et. al. (too many names to mention) - Thanks for all of your replies and input and suggestions. Sorry Steve, squinting and looking sideways at the bookmarks didn't help~ Two issues - 1.) One was the flow in Chapter 7 - which was weird because I simply imported the page layout/paragraph tags from my template into Chapter 7 (like I did for all other chapters), but somehow, the flow was disconnected in Chapter 7. 2.) However, since the generated TOC was working just fine (which would indicate that there was NOT a problem with the flow), I also received advice about optimizing the framemaker file for PDF Generation (Format > Document > Optimize PDF Size) and work with both options there - kinda' like miffing a source file except your miffing for PDF generation. Now, all is right in my PDF world and I get the bookmarks as expected. Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/23/2006 09:55 AM To frame2acrobat at yahoogroups.com, framers at frameusers.com cc Subject PDF Generation question Framemaker 7.1, Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 7.0. In my Framemaker source files, I have the following tags set to appear in my TOC: ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, Head3, and Head4. All tags appear as expected with the proper indentations, in the proper order, and with all links working in the TOC. Only one chapter (Chapter 7) uses the SecTitle tag; however, as noted, it appears as expected in the TOC with the proper numbering (SecID), in the proper order, and the links from SecTitleTOC work just fine. When I generate my PDF from this file, however, this is a different story. I do have the following: Printer: Adobe PDF Under PDF Setup, I have Generate Bookmarks checked. In the Include Paragraphs, I do have these tags: ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, Head3, and Head4 and I have Include Paragraphs Tags in bookmark text selected (for troublshooting purposes). I also have Create Named Destinations Set under Links and I have confirmed that the chapter-level PDF settings are the same as the book. When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter 6 - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2 below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath Chapter 6. Like I said, Chap 7 is the chapter that uses the SecTitle paragraph, so why are these bookmarks being placed under Chapter 6? Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF Generation question
And one more thing - if I leave my SecTitle out of my bookmarks list, all of my bookmarks for Chapter 7 are still being placed under Chapter 6. Now I really give. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/23/2006 10:51 AM To Steve Rickaby cc framers at FrameUsers.com Subject Re: PDF Generation question LOL! I will try squinting. To answer several questions: 1.) Nope, SecTitle is not in a separate text flow. 2.) Yep, the TOC in my Framemaker source book generates just as expected with the SecTitles in the proper order under Chapter 7. 3.) Yep, I have tried regenerating my book after solving the numbering problem and nope, same results - the tags are stuck as the last tags under Chapter 6. 4.) Yep, I have tried the suggestion of nested numbering with zero-ing out placeholders and nope, still doesn't put the SecTitle bookmarks under Chapter 7 in the PDF. I give! Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com Steve Rickaby 05/23/2006 10:35 AM To framers at FrameUsers.com cc Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Subject Re: PDF Generation question At 09:55 -0600 23/5/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for >ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should >appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter >6 - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2 >below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath >Chapter 6. This has long been a problem with bookmarks generated from FrameMaker (since v 5.0 at least). I have long since given up trying to diagnose it, and just edit the bookmarks in Acrobat. I think if you look at it sideways with eyes narrowed, you'd see that it's the top level bookmark that is misplaced, not the lower level ones ;-) I'd also be interested in illumination. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF Generation question
LOL! I will try squinting. To answer several questions: 1.) Nope, SecTitle is not in a separate text flow. 2.) Yep, the TOC in my Framemaker source book generates just as expected with the SecTitles in the proper order under Chapter 7. 3.) Yep, I have tried regenerating my book after solving the numbering problem and nope, same results - the tags are stuck as the last tags under Chapter 6. 4.) Yep, I have tried the suggestion of nested numbering with zero-ing out placeholders and nope, still doesn't put the SecTitle bookmarks under Chapter 7 in the PDF. I give! Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com Steve Rickaby 05/23/2006 10:35 AM To framers at FrameUsers.com cc Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Subject Re: PDF Generation question At 09:55 -0600 23/5/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for >ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should >appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter >6 - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2 >below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath >Chapter 6. This has long been a problem with bookmarks generated from FrameMaker (since v 5.0 at least). I have long since given up trying to diagnose it, and just edit the bookmarks in Acrobat. I think if you look at it sideways with eyes narrowed, you'd see that it's the top level bookmark that is misplaced, not the lower level ones ;-) I'd also be interested in illumination. -- Steve
PDF Generation question
Framemaker 7.1, Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 7.0. In my Framemaker source files, I have the following tags set to appear in my TOC: ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, Head3, and Head4. All tags appear as expected with the proper indentations, in the proper order, and with all links working in the TOC. Only one chapter (Chapter 7) uses the SecTitle tag; however, as noted, it appears as expected in the TOC with the proper numbering (SecID), in the proper order, and the links from SecTitleTOC work just fine. When I generate my PDF from this file, however, this is a different story. I do have the following: Printer: Adobe PDF Under PDF Setup, I have Generate Bookmarks checked. In the Include Paragraphs, I do have these tags: ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, Head3, and Head4 and I have Include Paragraphs Tags in bookmark text selected (for troublshooting purposes). I also have Create Named Destinations Set under Links and I have confirmed that the chapter-level PDF settings are the same as the book. When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter 6 - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2 below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath Chapter 6. Like I said, Chap 7 is the chapter that uses the SecTitle paragraph, so why are these bookmarks being placed under Chapter 6? Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
numbering conundrum
Harro, Steve, Lester, Darrel, Fred, Daniel, et. al, Thanks for all of the responses. The cut and paste method ultimately worked - a table seemed to be the offender, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why - I did not use any autonumbering in any of the table cells and I couldn't find any weird/buried tags in it - so, I deleted the table and recreated it from scratch and now I get Sec numbering reset as expected after the table. Like I said, there was no rhyme nor reason to it, but the solution worked. Again, thanks for all of the questions, input and offers to troubleshoot the doc. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Harro de Jong" Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/23/2006 08:32 AM To cc Subject RE: numbering conundrum Nope, no overrides (thanks for prompting me to check this) and it's all in a single file. I have just back-tracked and cut out everything between the "good" Sec 7.3 and the "bad" Sec 7.1, then inserted a Sec ID tag after the good Sec 7.3 and voila, I get a Sec 7.4, so it's something in this stretch of documentation, altho' for the life of me, I can't figure it out. Anyway, in between the 7.3 and 7.4, I am pasting, one paragraph at a time, the cut material and seeing when I get the 7.4 to flip back to 7.1 - then I know which paragraph, for whatever reason, is causing me fits. I can't think of anything else to do. One more suggestion: check your text flows. The numbering may restart because the text flows aren't connected, or because you're using two flows. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
numbering conundrum
Nope, no overrides (thanks for prompting me to check this) and it's all in a single file. I have just back-tracked and cut out everything between the "good" Sec 7.3 and the "bad" Sec 7.1, then inserted a Sec ID tag after the good Sec 7.3 and voila, I get a Sec 7.4, so it's something in this stretch of documentation, altho' for the life of me, I can't figure it out. Anyway, in between the 7.3 and 7.4, I am pasting, one paragraph at a time, the cut material and seeing when I get the 7.4 to flip back to 7.1 - then I know which paragraph, for whatever reason, is causing me fits. I can't think of anything else to do. Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Harro de Jong" Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/23/2006 08:19 AM To , cc Subject RE: numbering conundrum Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert > another one after > the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have > turned on all my > conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before > the incorrect > 7.1 tag and none are present. Also, I don't have any other > tags that are > numbered with a series beginning with "s". , If I insert a second > SecID after the correct 7.1 or 7.2, the numbering is just fine. > It's only after > I insert this secID tag after the 7.3 that renumbering > starts. I am going > nutso' with this. Do any SecID tags have overrides? I've had a similar problem once, and was able to solve it by reapplying the paragraph format. This is all in a single file? If multiple files are involved, check the Numbering properties in the bookfile. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
numbering conundrum
Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert another one after the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have turned on all my conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before the incorrect 7.1 tag and none are present. Also, I don't have any other tags that are numbered with a series beginning with "s". , If I insert a second SecID after the correct 7.1 or 7.2, the numbering is just fine. It's only after I insert this secID tag after the 7.3 that renumbering starts. I am going nutso' with this. Thanks! Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Fred Ridder" 05/22/2006 04:59 PM To Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com cc Subject RE: numbering conundrum What happens wne you insert another one after the second 7.1 (the incorrect one)? Do you get 7.2 or yet another 7.1? Make doubly, triply sure that the numbering formula used for the offending paragraph(s) uses the same series label--a capital S. Series labels are case- sentitive, and if you inadvertently start a new series (say a lower-case s instead of a capital) it will naturally and correctly start again at 7.1. -Fred Ridder >From: Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com >To: framers at frameusers.com, "STC List" >Subject: numbering conundrum >Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:23:22 -0600 > >I have created a tag named SecID to identify sections in my book chapters. >It is set to autonumber according to the following format: S:Section ><$chapnum>\=\sm. I have this tag set to start at the top of page and I >auto-apply a Custom Master Page to the page that uses this Section ID. >This page is named SectionDivider. For sections 1 through 3, it is working >just beautifully - I get a page with Section 7-1, a page with section 7-2 >and page with Section 7-3. Now, all of a sudden, when I go to apply this >tag to a page, the numbering is being reset to 7-1 and it won't change. >After counting beautifully to 7-3, all I get no matter where I apply this >tag after Section 7-3 is Section 7-1. I don't get 7-4, 7-5, etc. and I am >beyond stumped. If I had messed with the paragraph numbering to restart, >then ALL the tags should be appearing as Section 7-1, but like I said, 7-1 >through 7-3 is working as expected. > >Help - I am stumped and I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot this. I >swear I am working with Word numbering! > >thanks, > >TVB > >Tammy Van Boening >Senior Technical Writer >Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. >303-328-4420 >tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > >Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
numbering conundrum
I have created a tag named SecID to identify sections in my book chapters. It is set to autonumber according to the following format: S:Section <$chapnum>\=\sm. I have this tag set to start at the top of page and I auto-apply a Custom Master Page to the page that uses this Section ID. This page is named SectionDivider. For sections 1 through 3, it is working just beautifully - I get a page with Section 7-1, a page with section 7-2 and page with Section 7-3. Now, all of a sudden, when I go to apply this tag to a page, the numbering is being reset to 7-1 and it won't change. After counting beautifully to 7-3, all I get no matter where I apply this tag after Section 7-3 is Section 7-1. I don't get 7-4, 7-5, etc. and I am beyond stumped. If I had messed with the paragraph numbering to restart, then ALL the tags should be appearing as Section 7-1, but like I said, 7-1 through 7-3 is working as expected. Help - I am stumped and I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot this. I swear I am working with Word numbering! thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
OT: autonumbering in Word
This has saved me much hell in auto-numbering and bullets in Word - http://www.tech-tav.com/macro.htm. They are free macros from tech-tav (authorIT producers) that automate autonumbering, bullets, etc. in Word. They work like a charm and they are based on Framemaker principles. All my developers here use Word and I have had all of them load these macros and we have been trouble-free in autonumbering, etc. for months now - no more frantic phone calls to come fix numbering when someone's document craps out or when, a simple edit or copy from one developer's document hoses another's! Once loaded, maintenance/interaction is darn near non-existent and for situations when you have no choice but to use Word, it has made life s much easier. I highly recommend them! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Table Continuation Variable?
Bingo - you're like the 10th response along these lines and nope, it's not in the style guide (it's under development), so it's with this type of "argument" that I will submit my request to put this in the style guide. Thanks Peter, et. al. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com Peter Gold 05/19/2006 10:29 AM To Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com, framers at frameusers.com cc Subject Re: Table Continuation Variable? Hi, Tammy: If it's not specified in the corporate style guide (if there is one) or the industry style guide, the next line of defense is "how does it help the user not to know whether the visible portion of the table on the current page or spread is the beginning or in the middle?" At 10:13 AM -0600 5/19/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >All, > >If I have a table that spans more than one page, I naturally use this >variable in the Table Title. Well, we have a new editor on board that came >from a journalism background, not software documentation background, and >her mantra is "nice, tight copy" . . .So, no it's not copy - it's >technical procedures and although I don't believe any extra verbiage >either, table continuation seems to be a critical one to me. I have >actually had some reviewers not recognize that a table continues (they >thought one table was multiple tables) until I used this variable. I am >digging my heels in on this one (I have given to a few others just so that >I can hold my ground on what I feel is really important). > >Generic thoughts - do you use or not use this variable for tables that >span multiple pages and why or why not? Citing your reviewers' confusion is a good approach - it's about usability and clarity, not page layout or personal preference. You might have a good alternate tool in the Table Sheet variable, which identifies each table sheet (page), even the first. Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Table Continuation Variable?
All, If I have a table that spans more than one page, I naturally use this variable in the Table Title. Well, we have a new editor on board that came from a journalism background, not software documentation background, and her mantra is "nice, tight copy" . . .So, no it's not copy - it's technical procedures and although I don't believe any extra verbiage either, table continuation seems to be a critical one to me. I have actually had some reviewers not recognize that a table continues (they thought one table was multiple tables) until I used this variable. I am digging my heels in on this one (I have given to a few others just so that I can hold my ground on what I feel is really important). Generic thoughts - do you use or not use this variable for tables that span multiple pages and why or why not? Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Index Formatting Question
Rick and Sarah and Fred, Thanks! I made the hyphen a nonbreaking one (had to get the search term right though in Framemaker to figure out how - nonbreaking, not non-breaking! :-) And yep, Fred, as per comment, And you might also decrease the space between the entry text and the page number; in your little example it seems kind of excessive (although I know the example is not realistic...) so you're more likely to get breaking lines. it was not realistic, Just wanted to make sure that I visually got my point across in an email - sometimes, unless you exaggerate spaces in an email, they're not the obvious. Thanks again - just implemented the change and it works like a charm. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Index Formatting Question
I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels breaks across a line: Level 1 1-1 Level 22- 1 Level 3 3- 1 Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and I just can't go willy-nilly changing it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Framemaker and Visual Source Safe and Templates
I don't know if this is a VSS quirk, a Framemaker quirk, or a combo of the two, so I will do my best to explain the issue and see if some guidance/answers can be provided cuz this problem is driving me batty! We use VSS for version control for our Framemaker files. We use Framemaker 7.1p116 on Windows XP with all hotfixes, etc. As the keeper of our departmental templates, I must create the necessary templates and update them as needed and I want to make sure that template files do not get overwritten, etc.. For all of the templates, I have two imported graphics - one in a referenve frame on a reference page that is used in a paragraph tag and one that is used in an anchored frame in the headers on the right and left hand master pages. This is how we currently are working (or should I say trying to work): I set up a template folder structure in VSS. I duplicate this exact folder structure on my hard drive as do all the other writers in the group. I make sure the templates are current/correct as needed, then I check them out and the imported graphics from VSS so no one else can. When someone wants to grab a copy of the very latest template, they open VSS: Scroll to the VSS folder that contains the imported graphics for the templates Double-click on a graphic and select "View Source Safe's copy of this file." This places a copy of the graphic in a VSS temp folder. The user then does a "Save As" and saves the file with the correct name in the correct folder on their hard drive. Scroll to the VSS folder that contains the correct template file. Double-click the file and select "View Source Safe's copy of this file." This places a copy of the graphic in a VSS temp folder. At this point, the user is prompted that the imported graphics must be located. They scroll to the correct folder on their hard drive that contains the saved graphics and update the graphics path. The user then does a "Save As" and saves the template file with the correct name in the correct folder on their hard drive. This gives the user an editable copy of the template file with imported graphics without screwing up the source template file. here's the rub: Three outta' every four times this approach works, then for no rhyme nor reason, when the user attempts to do a Save As on the template file after updating the graphics path, the file is saved, but an error message opens, stating that the file was saved, but the internal image data was lost and to contact Adobe Technical Support for assistance. If you open up the directory in which the file was saved, it is saved as the filename.fm.[some weird number extension], for example, ChapterTemplate.fm.079. If I right click on this weird file, and rename it as simply a .fm file, I can double click and open the file and all is OK - the graphics appear just fine and if I select one and then File > Import > file, the correct path name for the imported graphic comes up. This is just a pain because when my users get this weird message, it locks their system for a while, we have to close Framemaker, rename the file, then reopen Framemaker to open the file - it doesn't make pulling the latest copy of the template files that convenient. Does anyone use VSS with Framemaker? Has anyone seen this message with Framemaker whether you are using VSS? Just any thoughts, comments, help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Paragraph tag with Frame below
Ok, if I had expanded on the very way that reference frames work on a page - oh well, thanks Mark - this works beautifully - (and thanks everyone else for responding as well . . . it's been a long couple of days reworking templates and my hard drive/working environment at the same time!). TVB Make the graphic that contains "...left blank..." large enough to fill the entire page (excluding header/footer room), with the text placed in the middle of the graphic. You might need to set the paragraph style property to "Top of Left Page". Cheers, Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Paragraph tag with Frame below
Ok, Got both of my first two questions answered quickly, so let me continue on question #2. I am required by the FAA on any documentation that I produce to mark the blank page at the end of the chapter with the phrase "INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK". Right now, the writers simply manually hit return a couple of times and use a paragraph tag called Blank Page that aligns the tag in the center of the page and sets the font to uppercase, bold, arial, 10 point. The problem is that not all writers place the phrase consistently in the same location on a blank page either within their own documents or across their documents and I want to make this consistent. I have started this process with making a graphic called Blank Page - it contains the words intentionally left blank - that's all. I have used this graphic on a reference page and set it up so that when I apply it as a Frame Below a paragraph tag called Blank Page, it is centered beneath the paragraph tag, which is also centered on the page. The only thing - when I place this tag on a blank page, I want to place it so that the tag is centered top/bottom on the blank page - otherwise, we just run into the same problem we had before - consistently moving the graphic now (instead of free text) to the same vertical alignment on a blank page. Right now, I have it kinda' kludged - it's a two-step process where the users manually place a BlankPage_Step1 tag at the top of the blank page (which is always a left hand page), then press return and the next paragraph tag is automatically the BlankPage tag which has a space above set to 120 pts and the graphic centered. I want to do this in one step (if I am making any sense and if it is even possible). When a user clicks at the top of the blank page, I want them to be able to click BlankPage and have the tag automatically be placed in the center of the page, but other than working with space above a tag (which means having another tag first), I cant' figure out a way to do this. Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Two questions
1.) The URL to the Frameusers archives/search feature - I had this saved as a favorite, but had a nuclear meltdown on my hard drive and an in the frustrating process of rebuilding my working environment. 2.) I know this has been asked (by me) and answered (generously by quite a few on the list before), but I have lost my notes on this. I am creating a paragraph tag with a frame below property (a single line). I want this single line (SingleLine) to be right-justified beneath the paragraph tag. On the reference page, how do I set up my reference frame/what properties do I modify so that this single line is indeed right-aligned? I faintly remember it has something to do with the location of the reference frame and the graphic inside of the frame, but. . . for the life of me, right now, no matter what, the line is coming out left aligned beneath the paragraph tag. Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Fw: Very OT, but this is freakin' incredible: Cool commercial
All, I am sure I am breaking list rules by posting this, but. . . this list has provided so much to me, I thought adding a bit of enjoyment to say thanks - and with as analytical and precise as a writer's mind is, I am sure that all of us will deeply appreciate the precision and accuracy that had to go into making this commercial - it's beyond cool!! TVB Read the story before watching! There are no computer graphics or digital tricks in the film you are about to see. Everything you see happened in real time, exactly as you will see it. The film required 606 takes. On the first 605 takes, something, usually very minor, didn't work. They would then have to set the whole thing up again. The crew spent weeks shooting night and day. By the time it was over, they were ready to change professions. The film cost six million dollars, and it took three months to complete, including full engineering of the sequence. In addition, its two minutes long, so every time Honda airs the film on British television, they're shelling out enough dough to keep any one of us in clover for a lifetime; however, it is fast becoming the most downloaded advertisement in Internet history. Honda executives figure the ad will soon pay for itself simply in "free viewings." (Honda isn't paying a dime to have you watch this commercial). When the ad was pitched to senior executives, they signed off on it immediately without hesitation - including the costs. There are only six hand-made Accords in the world. To the horror of Honda engineers, the filmmakers disassembled two of them to make the film. Everything you see in the film (aside from the walls, floor, ramp, and complete Honda Accord) is parts from those two cars. The voiceover is Garrison Keillor. When the ad was shown to Honda executives, they liked it and commented on how amazing computer graphics have gotten. They fell off their chairs when they found out it was for real. Oh, and about those funky windshield wipers -- on the new Accords, the windshield wipers have water sensors and are designed to start doing their thing automatically as soon as they become wet. It looks a bit weird in the commercial. http://www.steelcitysfinest.com/HondaAccordAd.htm - Message from Richard.Mooney at kraft.com on Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:32:38 -0500 - To: sarsmom at aol.com Subject: FW: Cool commercial Richard Mooney Kraft Foods Kroger Region 303-784-7557 Work 303-784-7521 Fax richard.mooney at kraft.com -Original Message- From: Calhoun, James Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:36 PM To: 'Jonas Aristondo (E-mail)'; 'Tom Coates (E-mail)'; 'Rob Dungan (E-mail)'; 'John Enger (E-mail)'; 'Kevin Fitzgerald (E-mail)'; 'Nelson Gary (E-mail)'; Hanrahan, Peter F. ; 'Don Hill (E-mail)'; 'Yungner Jimy (E-mail)'; Mooney, Richard ; 'Dennis Ohara (E-mail)'; Owens, Jim P. ; 'Peter Perry (E-mail)'; 'Bosselman Fred (E-mail)' Subject: FW: Cool commercial -Original Message- From: Stewart, Jeff W Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:30 PM To: Tracy, Tom X. ; Ralph (E-mail); Calhoun, James Subject: FW: Cool commercial -Original Message- From: Larry Hansen [mailto:lhan...@pinnpointe.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:11 PM To: mikehasslinger; Mark Murray; ebedford at wavecable.com; jstewart at kraft.com; phil.richardson at saralee.com; lori_hansen at yahoo.com Subject: Cool commercial Read the story before watching! There are no computer graphics or digital tricks in the film you are about to see. Everything you see happened in real time, exactly as you will see it. The film required 606 takes. On the first 605 takes, something, usually very minor, didn't work. They would then have to set the whole thing up again. The crew spent weeks shooting night and day. By the time it was over, they were ready to change professions. The film cost six million dollars, and it took three months to complete, including full engineering of the sequence. In addition, its two minutes long, so every time Honda airs the film on British television, they're shelling out enough dough to keep any one of us in clover for a lifetime; however, it is fast becoming the most downloaded advertisement in Internet history. Honda executives figure the ad will soon pay for itself simply in "free viewings." (Honda isn't paying a dime to have you watch this commercial). When the ad was pitched to senior executives, they signed off on it immediately without hesitation - including the costs. There are only six hand-made Accords in the world. To the horror of Honda engineers, the filmmakers disassembled two of them to make the film. Everything you see in the film (aside from the walls, floor, ramp, and complete Honda Accord) is parts from those two cars. The voiceover is Garrison Keillor. When the ad was shown to Honda executives, they liked it and commented on how amazing computer graphics have gotten. They fell off their chairs when they found ou
Weird, sudden problem distilling postscript files
Fred, Karen, et al. Thanks for all of the responses. sorry I didn't respond earlier, but just after I posted this message, my IT guy came down to see if he could troubleshoot - and at least I was able to reproduce the problem. Long story short - I will be humming along making PDFs no problem and then boom, all of a sudden, the PDF is either gi-normous (like over 2000%) or I get a series of really small pages all stacked vertically. Sometimes, it will "reset" itself without any rebooting, etc. and other times, I have to either: 1.) Just shut down Framemaker, Distiller and PDF and then re-open all the apps. 2) Reboot the whole PC. I can't find a rhyme or reason to why it happens, when it is going to happen, etc. There's no magic number of generating PDFs or one PDF in particular that causes it. When my IT guys were here, the saw exactly the same thing - he generated the PDF six times in a row with problems, then boom, on the 7th time, it generated just fine without any shut down of apps, rebooting,etc., but then the next go-round, we had to reboot to get a PDF to generate. Very annoying problem, and very time consuming and hunting all over the place (googling, Adobe, etc.), I have found the exact same comments/problems but no apparent resolution either than to grit your teeth, take a deep breath and reboot. I wonder if Adobe will have any comments about this eventually. Thanks for all the responses - at least what I was seeing was validated by others! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Karen Mardahl" 03/22/2006 08:02 AM To "Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com" , framers at frameusers.com cc Subject Re: Weird, sudden problem distilling postscript files Hi Tammy Possible solution: Try the simple trick of just shutting down Frame and Acrobat and Distiller, and then start over. This happened to me about 1 year ago, but I could not find my internal correspondance with colleagues about it. Freakily enough, the same thing happened to me just yesterday. Exact same environment as yours. (Previous disaster was with FM 6.0, Acrobat 5.0.5, and Win2K.) My PDF was set to 1496%!!! I duplicated the problem 4 times. 2 days previous, my PDF was fine. Only difference was producing a PDF from a Word file earlier that day. Couldn't understand how that affected it. Went home in disgust. Shut down apps but did not shut down machine. Came in today, looked in vain for possible solution in PDF Hacks. Tried once more - and it was perfect! "Normal" size. Conclusion: This is why I say just shut down all apps, take a deep breath, and start over. WHY this happened, I don't know. Unless somehow, while on the Print dialog in Frame, focus went to the percentage field and I hit a few keys without noticing before I hit Print??? Don't think so.. Hope this helps. regards, Karen Mardahl On 3/21/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > Framemaker 7.1p116, Windows XP (with all patches), Adobe distiller 7.0.7, > Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0.7 > > I have been using this setup to successfully create post-script files from > Framemaker source files and then distilling the postscript files into pdfs > for quite a while now. When I create postscript files, I use watched > folders, the Adobe PDF printer, and my job options are standard with the > first page to open at the Default Zoom level, page size 8.5 x 11. All of a > sudden, any and every PDF I create this way is beyond hosed. Each PDF > opens at some gi-normous magnification (like 2000%) and the graphics are > completely non-readable. If I set the magnification in Adobe Acrobat to > 125%, then I get a string of really tiny pages. So . . .. I had two > colleagues take the same source files and create a PS file and then > distill it into a PDF using Acrobat distiller/Acrobat Professional 6.0 and > their PDFs are fine - > > and if I use their postscript files on my system, I have no problems > creating a PDF - so obviously something has gone violently and suddenly > wrong with my Framemaker installation/Adobe PDF printer, right but what, > and how? > > I am stumped. > > Thanks, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Senior Technical Writer > Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. > 303-328-4420 > tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Fw: Weird, sudden problem distilling postscript files
Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com - Forwarded by Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC on 03/21/2006 03:43 PM - Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC 03/21/2006 03:43 PM To Framers, frame_2_Acrobat List cc Subject Weird, sudden problem distilling postscript files Framemaker 7.1p116, Windows XP (with all patches), Adobe distiller 7.0.7, Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0.7 I have been using this setup to successfully create post-script files from Framemaker source files and then distilling the postscript files into pdfs for quite a while now. When I create postscript files, I use watched folders, the Adobe PDF printer, and my job options are standard with the first page to open at the Default Zoom level, page size 8.5 x 11. All of a sudden, any and every PDF I create this way is beyond hosed. Each PDF opens at some gi-normous magnification (like 2000%) and the graphics are completely non-readable. If I set the magnification in Adobe Acrobat to 125%, then I get a string of really tiny pages. So . . .. I had two colleagues take the same source files and create a PS file and then distill it into a PDF using Acrobat distiller/Acrobat Professional 6.0 and their PDFs are fine - and if I use their postscript files on my system, I have no problems creating a PDF - so obviously something has gone violently and suddenly wrong with my Framemaker installation/Adobe PDF printer, right but what, and how? I am stumped. Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Weird, sudden problem distilling postscript files
Framemaker 7.1p116, Windows XP (with all patches), Adobe distiller 7.0.7, Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0.7 I have been using this setup to successfully create post-script files from Framemaker source files and then distilling the postscript files into pdfs for quite a while now. When I create postscript files, I use watched folders, the Adobe PDF printer, and my job options are standard with the first page to open at the Default Zoom level, page size 8.5 x 11. All of a sudden, any and every PDF I create this way is beyond hosed. Each PDF opens at some gi-normous magnification (like 2000%) and the graphics are completely non-readable. If I set the magnification in Adobe Acrobat to 125%, then I get a string of really tiny pages. So . . .. I had two colleagues take the same source files and create a PS file and then distill it into a PDF using Acrobat distiller/Acrobat Professional 6.0 and their PDFs are fine - and if I use their postscript files on my system, I have no problems creating a PDF - so obviously something has gone violently and suddenly wrong with my Framemaker installation/Adobe PDF printer, right but what, and how? I am stumped. Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Esc m p for anchored frames?
Ok, I have tried searching the archives for this, but the searchable messages don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly remember a discussion about what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command for anchored frames. Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of why this functions the way that it does - basically, when I place my anchored frame at a certain location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to the size of the graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is shifted upwards - it does not remain in its original location - if this description makes sense. Any information on this subject is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Fw: OT: Framemaker for UNIX User's Guide, Release 5
Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com - Forwarded by Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC on 01/25/2006 12:08 PM - Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC 01/25/2006 12:07 PM To Framers, STC List cc Subject OT: Framemaker for UNIX User's Guide, Release 5 All, I have this guide in my possession from my days of using FM on UNIX. For a long time and for the forseeable future, it will be FM on Windows only for me, and as we all know, all of the User Guides for previous versions of FM are still enormously helpful and applicable. (Even tho' I am on 7.1, I found just what I needed in a FM for 6.0 guide). If anybody wants this, it's free for the taking - all you need to do is to make arrangements to pick it up or if you're too far away, pay for the postage. That's it. Just let me know and it's yours. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Automatically applying master pages
Thanks all! Got it working! Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Automatically applying master pages
Windows XP, Framemaker 7.1. In an appendix, I have a tag named Head1. After Head1, I have some introductory text tagged as Body or ListBullet. After these tags, I insert a table identifed in the Table Designer as Symbology_Table. Because of the massive volume of information that is required for this table, I have created landscape page. The table flows across several pages. I then repeat this setup for a new round of information - Head1, Body, ListBullet, Symbology Table, etc. I would like all of the pages (save the first) in this appendix to use the Landscape page, therefore, on the MasterPageMaps Reference page, I have set the Paragraph tag name to be Head1, the Single-sided Master page to be Landscape, but what do I set for Range Indicator - until changed or span pages? No matter what I select, the page that on which you find the Head1 does indeed use the Landscape page, but once the table flows over to the next page, it uses portrait. Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
OT: Word to PDF
FWIW: The error message in it's entirety: %%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%% %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: View --nostringval-- ]%% Stack: /DOCVIEW [/FitH] /View /UseOutlines /PageMode -dict- %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 01/11/2006 12:29 PM To framers at frameusers.com cc Subject OT: Word to PDF Since we are blessed to have so many acrobat gurus on this list: Windows XP Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0 MS Word 2002 Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF -Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang . .. I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF. What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless endeavor? Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Word to PDF
Since we are blessed to have so many acrobat gurus on this list: Windows XP Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0 MS Word 2002 Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF -Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang . .. I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF. What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless endeavor? Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Graphic on a Reference Page
Yep, that would be necessary for a slow-witted one today anyway :- and thanks Jeremy, Martha, and Lester. I appreciate the quick responses and help. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Jeremy H. Griffith" 12/29/2005 12:39 PM To Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com cc framers at frameusers.com Subject Re: Graphic on a Reference Page On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:19:06 -0700, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Yea, I thought so too, and I truly have tried this and no go. I have made >the graphic frame right-aligned on the Reference page and then added the >graphic and no matter what I do, it still appears as left-aligned on the >body page beneath the paragraph tag. I am stumped. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. The graphic needs to be right-aligned inside a frame that starts at the left edge of the body text frame. But I see Lester just described it nicely! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
Graphic on a Reference Page
Thank you Lester!! Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Lester C. Smalley" Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 12/29/2005 12:23 PM To , "STC List" , cc Subject RE: Graphic on a Reference Page FrameMaker always sets the left edge of the reference frame (that box holding the image on the Ref page) to align with the left edge of the text column, so the apparent placement of an image is based on its offset from the left edge of the ref frame. To get a right-aligned image, you need to make the reference frame the same width as the text frame on the body pages and then right-align the image within it. If you have occasions where you want the SectionLine to be left aligned, and others for right aligned, you will have to have two different frames on the reference page. On Thursday, December 29, 2005 02:07 PM, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: | I have a graphic that I created on a Reference page called | SectionLine. I selected this graphic as the Frame Below Pgf | for a tag named SectionHeading. The paragraph tag itself is | right-aligned on the page. I would therefore like this | graphic to be right-aligned also. Right now, when I select | SectionLine as the graphic for the Frame Below Pgf, it is | showing up as a left-aligned graphic. How do I get this | graphic to right-align for the paragraph? | | TIA, | | TVB | | Tammy Van Boening | Senior Technical Writer | Aviation Courseware Development | Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. | 303-328-4420 | tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Graphic on a Reference Page
Yea, I thought so too, and I truly have tried this and no go. I have made the graphic frame right-aligned on the Reference page and then added the graphic and no matter what I do, it still appears as left-aligned on the body page beneath the paragraph tag. I am stumped. Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Jeremy H. Griffith" 12/29/2005 12:14 PM To framers at frameusers.com cc Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Subject Re: Graphic on a Reference Page On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:06:57 -0700, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >I have a graphic that I created on a Reference page called SectionLine. I >selected this graphic as the Frame Below Pgf for a tag named >SectionHeading. The paragraph tag itself is right-aligned on the page. I >would therefore like this graphic to be right-aligned also. Right now, >when I select SectionLine as the graphic for the Frame Below Pgf, it is >showing up as a left-aligned graphic. How do I get this graphic to >right-align for the paragraph? AFAIK, the only way is to make a right-aligned version of it on the reference page and use that one for Frame Below. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
Graphic on a Reference Page
I have a graphic that I created on a Reference page called SectionLine. I selected this graphic as the Frame Below Pgf for a tag named SectionHeading. The paragraph tag itself is right-aligned on the page. I would therefore like this graphic to be right-aligned also. Right now, when I select SectionLine as the graphic for the Frame Below Pgf, it is showing up as a left-aligned graphic. How do I get this graphic to right-align for the paragraph? TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Weird problem with PDF
What a lovely undocumented "feature" - but thanks Fred, you nailed the problem. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Weird problem with PDF
No, thanks for asking. I do not have GlossaryTitleTOC selected for the PDF. I have checked three times now - it's GlossaryTitle only. Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 12/27/2005 01:15 PM To "STC List" , framers at frameusers.com, frame2acrobat at yahoogroups.com cc Subject Weird problem with PDF Framemaker 7.1 on Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0.0.5 In my Framemaker maker book, I have the following tags in my TOC that I want as bookmarks in my Adobe PDF: TableTitle (this is auto-numbered with "List of Tables") FigureTitle (this is auto-numbered with "List of Figures") ChapterTitle (this is auto-numbered with "Chapter" and $chapnum) Head1 Head2 Head3 GlossaryTitle (this is auto-numbered with "Glossary") IndexTitle (this is auto-numbered with "Index") When I generate the Framemaker book, the TOC generates just fine with the tags appearing where expected and as formatted on the reference page of the TOC. When I generate the PDF from this book, all bookmarks generate as expected with one exception - the GlossaryTitle tag. Instead of appearing where expected (the next to the last tag), it is always appearing first in the list of bookmarks and it shows not only the word "Glossary" but also, the page number (G-1) for the first page of the glossary. When I click on this bookmark, it moves me to the entry for the Glossary in the TOC, not to the first page of the Glossary. I am stumped as this is the only tag that is giving me fits in the PDF and I have checked everything I can think of . . . Any and all advice is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Weird problem with PDF
Framemaker 7.1 on Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0.0.5 In my Framemaker maker book, I have the following tags in my TOC that I want as bookmarks in my Adobe PDF: TableTitle (this is auto-numbered with "List of Tables") FigureTitle (this is auto-numbered with "List of Figures") ChapterTitle (this is auto-numbered with "Chapter" and $chapnum) Head1 Head2 Head3 GlossaryTitle (this is auto-numbered with "Glossary") IndexTitle (this is auto-numbered with "Index") When I generate the Framemaker book, the TOC generates just fine with the tags appearing where expected and as formatted on the reference page of the TOC. When I generate the PDF from this book, all bookmarks generate as expected with one exception - the GlossaryTitle tag. Instead of appearing where expected (the next to the last tag), it is always appearing first in the list of bookmarks and it shows not only the word "Glossary" but also, the page number (G-1) for the first page of the glossary. When I click on this bookmark, it moves me to the entry for the Glossary in the TOC, not to the first page of the Glossary. I am stumped as this is the only tag that is giving me fits in the PDF and I have checked everything I can think of . . . Any and all advice is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
OT:Trouble posting
Sorry all for the triplicate, but Ray, Lisa and their crew and my IT guys are trying to help me figure out why my account has gone belly up on its own, so again, I have been asked to try another post. Sorry for the bandwidth. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
Fw: OT: Posting problems
Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com - Forwarded by Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC on 12/07/2005 01:59 PM - Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC 12/07/2005 01:57 PM To Framers cc Subject OT: Posting problems Hi all, Trying to see if I can post to the list, so I apologize in advance for the bandwith. Up until 11/29, I was able to post messages to the list and receive messages from the list and then boom, nada, nothing, zip. Lisa B and her crew at her end are trying to figure out what is going on and my IT guys from this side are trying to do the same, so I have been asked by both sides to see if I can post a message to the list from this address. Carrier pigeon anyone? thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
OT: Posting problems
Hi all, Trying to see if I can post to the list, so I apologize in advance for the bandwith. Up until 11/29, I was able to post messages to the list and receive messages from the list and then boom, nada, nothing, zip. Lisa B and her crew at her end are trying to figure out what is going on and my IT guys from this side are trying to do the same, so I have been asked by both sides to see if I can post a message to the list from this address. Carrier pigeon anyone? thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051207/85160fd6/attachment.html
