Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based
And if you are worried that a machine is about to die on you, you can always deactivate the license and install it on another machine. OS advancements are another can o' worms but usually Win users can get things to run on the newer OS versions. Craig From: Framers on behalf of Lin Sims Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:31 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based Nothing happens. You bought a perpetual license for FM12 and it will continue to work as long as the machine and OS allow it to. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based
If you ever need to reinstall it, and it uses a license server to check the license when you install it, it may eventually not be able to install. This happened to me with Acrobat 7, and Adobe was nice enough to give me another installer that did not require a license server. I hope they keep being nice. Although legally they probably have to help you, who wants to have to take them to court. -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 058-763-7133 On 26-Aug-20 3:03 PM, Tom Beiswenger wrote: This may be a really stupid question, but because it involves an Adobe product, it probably isn't... what happens to those of us using earlier versions of FM? I am the only writer in our company using FM and work with FM12 on a new Windows 10 laptop. FM12 is a little quirky on Win 10, but I've found ways to adapt so that I can keep FM. The alternative for me would be to go to AuthorIT, which isn't bad, but really isn't very good about creating books for print and digital (using conditional tags that allows us to optimize the book for digital display). -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:53 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based You are correct, and I mentioned that on the FrameMaker group on the Adobe forums. That's not the only issue on Adobe's site. At the moment, the only way that I, who have a Teams subscription through work, could upgrade to FM2020, was to download the free trial. There's a download link on the account page for our FM subscription, but it takes you to the CREATIVE CLOUD downloads page and has for more than a year. I've made multiple complaints but Adobe hasn't fixed it. FM seem to be the red-headed stepchild of Adobe. As to an earlier email of yours, there is no difference between someone upgrading from an earlier version to 2020 or someone getting a new subscription to 2020. The subscription price is the same for everyone. There are two annual options (no monthly option for FM!): one is to prepay for a year (about $360), the other is to pay monthly ($29.99) for a year's subscription (which totals about $360) with cancellation fees if you cancel it early. On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 5:07 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: Lin, That link mentioned FM _server_ versions, not the FM applications ... unless I overlooked something? Thanks! Z Lin Sims said: This is an authoritative list of all of Adobe's products and when they went End of Life and when Extended Support was ended. I hope it helps. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__helpx.adobe.com _support_programs_eol-2Dmatrix.html=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7j XrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ =q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=j-70MYBRecahSYG9gCc tQmSND3bWaN_6nl4PsaO0-Hc= ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com =DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY- pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR -5tQ2As=od3UvA0sHfWz0pTUeAiWLiCcwmxmEvckbkLmZecgC0s= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive .com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7 jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ& m=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=ATOxKUwsymrAY5F_C6sq45 HWVUrQhJvmeclKQe9IwLA= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.c om_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8 b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOf Q=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=_Uek01gRB99I1o3GC25d iOKVe45icNXurO6hNRneJLc= Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=od3UvA0sHfWz0pTUeAiWLiCcwmxmEvckbkLmZecgC0s= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=ATOxKUwsymrAY5F_C6sq45HWVUrQhJvmeclKQe9IwLA= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.com_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=Dw
Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based
Nothing happens. You bought a perpetual license for FM12 and it will continue to work as long as the machine and OS allow it to. On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 8:03 AM Tom Beiswenger < tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com> wrote: > This may be a really stupid question, but because it involves an Adobe > product, it probably isn't... what happens to those of us using earlier > versions of FM? I am the only writer in our company using FM and work with > FM12 on a new Windows 10 laptop. FM12 is a little quirky on Win 10, but > I've found ways to adapt so that I can keep FM. The alternative for me > would be to go to AuthorIT, which isn't bad, but really isn't very good > about creating books for print and digital (using conditional tags that > allows us to optimize the book for digital display). > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based
This may be a really stupid question, but because it involves an Adobe product, it probably isn't... what happens to those of us using earlier versions of FM? I am the only writer in our company using FM and work with FM12 on a new Windows 10 laptop. FM12 is a little quirky on Win 10, but I've found ways to adapt so that I can keep FM. The alternative for me would be to go to AuthorIT, which isn't bad, but really isn't very good about creating books for print and digital (using conditional tags that allows us to optimize the book for digital display). -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:53 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based You are correct, and I mentioned that on the FrameMaker group on the Adobe forums. That's not the only issue on Adobe's site. At the moment, the only way that I, who have a Teams subscription through work, could upgrade to FM2020, was to download the free trial. There's a download link on the account page for our FM subscription, but it takes you to the CREATIVE CLOUD downloads page and has for more than a year. I've made multiple complaints but Adobe hasn't fixed it. FM seem to be the red-headed stepchild of Adobe. As to an earlier email of yours, there is no difference between someone upgrading from an earlier version to 2020 or someone getting a new subscription to 2020. The subscription price is the same for everyone. There are two annual options (no monthly option for FM!): one is to prepay for a year (about $360), the other is to pay monthly ($29.99) for a year's subscription (which totals about $360) with cancellation fees if you cancel it early. On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 5:07 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > Lin, > > That link mentioned FM _server_ versions, not the FM applications ... > unless I overlooked something? > > Thanks! > > Z > > Lin Sims said: > > This is an authoritative list of all of Adobe's products and when > > they > went End of Life and when Extended Support was ended. I hope it helps. > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__helpx.adobe.com > > _support_programs_eol-2Dmatrix.html=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7j > > XrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ > > =q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=j-70MYBRecahSYG9gCc > > tQmSND3bWaN_6nl4PsaO0-Hc= > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com > =DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY- > pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR > -5tQ2As=od3UvA0sHfWz0pTUeAiWLiCcwmxmEvckbkLmZecgC0s= > Archives located at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive > .com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7 > jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ& > m=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=ATOxKUwsymrAY5F_C6sq45 > HWVUrQhJvmeclKQe9IwLA= > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.c > om_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8 > b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOf > Q=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=_Uek01gRB99I1o3GC25d > iOKVe45icNXurO6hNRneJLc= Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=od3UvA0sHfWz0pTUeAiWLiCcwmxmEvckbkLmZecgC0s= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=ATOxKUwsymrAY5F_C6sq45HWVUrQhJvmeclKQe9IwLA= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.com_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=q0GgRHh46tONfy94OYAa1-ZGCkT3QrnzenZR-5tQ2As=_Uek01gRB99I1o3GC25diOKVe45icNXurO6hNRneJLc= Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com __
