Re: [Framers] Changing Setup Files
Sounds like InDesign's Quick Apply feature: type Ctrl+Enter then type any portion of a command or menu item, scroll, arrow, or select, and press Enter to execute. It's been in there for a few years. On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 7:48 PM Lynne A. Price wrote: > Orly, > The FM menus and shortcuts were reorganized in FM 2017. Be aware that: > > a) There is a new Command Search command which lets you type a prefix of > a keyword in a command name. It displays a list of the commands that use > words with that prefix. You can invoke a selected command by clicking on > it in the Command Search window. You open Command Search by clicking on > the magnifying glass on the right side of the top line of the FM window, > with F7, or with Ctrl-Shift-S. IN FM 2017, Command Search lists command > names and shortcuts that invoke them. In FM 2019 it also lists the menus > on which commands appear. > > > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Changing Setup Files
Orly, The FM menus and shortcuts were reorganized in FM 2017. Be aware that: a) There is a new Command Search command which lets you type a prefix of a keyword in a command name. It displays a list of the commands that use words with that prefix. You can invoke a selected command by clicking on it in the Command Search window. You open Command Search by clicking on the magnifying glass on the right side of the top line of the FM window, with F7, or with Ctrl-Shift-S. IN FM 2017, Command Search lists command names and shortcuts that invoke them. In FM 2019 it also lists the menus on which commands appear. b) You can define a new shortcut for a command (so that the command has multiple shortcuts), but you cannot remove an existing shortcut. c) I don't believe Customizing FrameMaker has been published since FM 7. d) View > Menus > Modify used to allow you to add menu items and shortcuts to those already in place. It now requires you to specify the full menus. An FDK client can still add menus and shortcuts. I believe this change was made when workspaces were added to %appdata% around FM 11. --Lynne On 12/10/2019 7:55 AM, Orly Zimmerman wrote: HI All, I'm currently running FM2017 version.I would like to update the configuration files so that I can use shortcut keys like I did in earlier versions of FM - for example, repeat last para command, or select all conditional text around cursor (SelectSameCondTags) - which it seems that Adobe removed for some reason. Also, they moved many things around. I'm being very careful about the changes I'm making to the various cmd files. Of course, before I change any of the cfg files, I make a copy, just in case... My Qs: 1. I saw that the FM developers added a note asking us to be careful when assigning the F10 key to something, because Windows uses that key for different things- anyone know what its commonly used for? BTW - The Adobe developers mention "For documentation on this file, see the on-line manual "Changing Setup Files"." - for the cmds.cfg file in the general configui folder. - but I can't find this manual. 2. Which cmd file can/should I change - if I'm working in non-structured - probably the wincmds.cfg in the configui/UnStructured/WYSIWYGView/ folder - right? 3. If I want to use a command that is already in place - for example, in FM2107 - the F7 key is used to find command shortcuts - but I want to use F7 for something else (related to conditional texting) - what happens if I use the F7 in both places? -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Changing Setup Files
On 14 Dec 2019 at 19:35, Orly Zimmerman wrote: > Below when you give a suggestion as to using F7 - you suggest "forgetting" > the function assignment. - how is that done in the cfg files? Orly, forgetting means (in this context) to overwrite the current definition with a new one. customui.cfg is the last file interpeted (after cmds.cfg, windows.cfg) and hence overwrites previous defintions. You can observe, that even windows.cfg overwrites som edefinitions from cmds.cfg. Klaus ~~ Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Changing Setup Files
On 10 Dec 2019 at 15:55, Orly Zimmerman wrote: > 1. I saw that the FM developers added a note asking us to be > careful when assigning the F10 key to something, because Windows uses that > key for different things- anyone know what its commonly used for? Dear Orly, Yes, F10 is used in Windows, however while FM runs, it "over-writes the definition". Outside of FM and in some other applications F10 (and others) have the "orginally" assigned function, e.g. while in Windows Explorer: F10: Activate the Menu bar in the active app Shift+F10: Display the shortcut menu for the selected item Whithin FM 'we' use modifications of the assignments since FM-5.5 when Shlomo Perets presented his modified tool bars. This has been continued by me for the Enhanced Tool Bars: https://daube.ch/docu/files/etb-fm14+15-en.pdf#page=21 > BTW - The Adobe developers mention "For documentation on this file, see the > on-line manual "Changing Setup Files"." - for the cmds.cfg file in the > general configui folder. - but I can't find this manual. This has not been updated since the days of FM-7. In recent times it would have required an update for every FM version... See my works: https://daube.ch/docu/files/etb-customising-fm11.pdf, ...etb-customising-fm12.pdf and etb-customising-fm14.pdf > 2. Which cmd file can/should I change - if I'm working in non-structured - > probably the wincmds.cfg in the configui/UnStructured/WYSIWYGView/ folder - > right? Yes, wincmds.cfg is a good place. The recommended method however is to put user modifications into $FMHOME\fminit\configue\customui.cfg In this file you can set up new commands, new menu entries and of course short cuts to existing commands. See for example the file within https://daube.ch/docu/files/Inst-FM14-ETB-en.zip \InstallETB_en\ETB\etb-customui.cfg This file contains not the final definitions - It is modified by the installation process to use local file locations. For example, on line 45 of this file you see > The installation converts it (on my system) to 3. If I want to use a command that is already in place - for example, in > FM2017 - the F7 key is used to find command shortcuts - but I want to use > F7 for something else (related to conditional texting) - what happens if I > use the F7 in both places? You can not have the same short cut for two different functions. - Either you give the current function (find command shortcut) a new unused shortcut (e.g. ALT+F7 - have not checked) and assign F7 then to the new function. - Or you forget the current assignment and just re-use F7 for a new assignment. Shortcuts may also be ESC sequences. But be aware that set up a sequence ESC+a+b, if ESC+a is already used. Safe are ESC+y+... or ESC+Y+...; Relatively safe are ESC+q+... or ESC+Q+ See https://daube.ch/docu/files/FM-ESC-sequences.pdf HTH Klaus ~ Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Changing Setup Files
HI All, I'm currently running FM2017 version.I would like to update the configuration files so that I can use shortcut keys like I did in earlier versions of FM - for example, repeat last para command, or select all conditional text around cursor (SelectSameCondTags) - which it seems that Adobe removed for some reason. Also, they moved many things around. I'm being very careful about the changes I'm making to the various cmd files. Of course, before I change any of the cfg files, I make a copy, just in case... My Qs: 1. I saw that the FM developers added a note asking us to be careful when assigning the F10 key to something, because Windows uses that key for different things- anyone know what its commonly used for? BTW - The Adobe developers mention "For documentation on this file, see the on-line manual "Changing Setup Files"." - for the cmds.cfg file in the general configui folder. - but I can't find this manual. 2. Which cmd file can/should I change - if I'm working in non-structured - probably the wincmds.cfg in the configui/UnStructured/WYSIWYGView/ folder - right? 3. If I want to use a command that is already in place - for example, in FM2107 - the F7 key is used to find command shortcuts - but I want to use F7 for something else (related to conditional texting) - what happens if I use the F7 in both places? Thanks!OrlyZ ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
