Re: [Framers] Different page sizes in FM document

[Crety, Christiane]

Hi all,
Thanks a lot for your answers. I believe you’re right Richard. My problem is 
that there doesn’t seem to be a separate setting for page size for master pages 
– only for the entire document?
Kind regards,
Christiane

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Different page sizes in FM document

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Hi Christiane

I believe that the best and easier way would be to create separated documents 
for different pages (working on the master page formats of course). As, anyway 
they will be numbered and included in a book project, the output would not be 
affected (structured documents or pdf).
Em 28/03/2019 05:04, Crety, Christiane escreveu:

Hi Framers,

Does anyone know if it's possible in FM 2019 to have different page sizes 
within the same FM document? We may need to include diagrams etc. in A3 format 
in one of our A4 FM books. It would be a pain to have to create a separate file 
in the middle of a chapter to accommodate the A3 page. Isn't it possible to 
have A3 and A4 Master pages in the same document?

Thanks in advance :)

Christiane



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Re: [Framers] Different page sizes in FM document

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Christiane,

There is an undocumented way of doing it in FrameMaker 2019, but I am not
positive if it made it into the release version. The idea is to create your
document with a page size large enough to accommodate all the required page
sizes in the document. So, to put it in US sizes, if your document is mainly
8-1/2 x 11 inches but you have some "foldout" pages that are 17 x 11 inches,
then you create a 17 x 11 document. Your default master pages are set up so
that the 8-1/2 x 11 content area is to the left side of the page and the
extra 8-1/2 x 11 is on the right side of the page. Your foldout master pages
use the whole 17 x 11 area.

Your 8-1/2 x 11 master pages are "marked" with a hidden UserString property
that indicates that these pages should be cropped when the PDF is created.
So your PDF will have a mix of 8-1/2 x 11 and 17 x 11 pages.

When I tested this, I used ExtendScript to automate the "marking" of the
pages so that the user didn't have to worry about it. Again, I am not sure
if this feature made it into the release version, but I can give it a try
when I get a chance. If there is general interest in this, I can demonstrate
it in one of my "anti-webinars".

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Crety, Christiane
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:05 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Different page sizes in FM document

Hi Framers,
Does anyone know if it's possible in FM 2019 to have different page sizes
within the same FM document? We may need to include diagrams etc. in A3
format in one of our A4 FM books. It would be a pain to have to create a
separate file in the middle of a chapter to accommodate the A3 page. Isn't
it possible to have A3 and A4 Master pages in the same document?
Thanks in advance :)
Christiane

--
Christiane Crety
Technical writer
Cobham SATCOM
T : +45 3955 8682 M : +45 2092
2704
christiane.cr...@cobham.com<mailto:christiane.cr...@cobham.com>

Thrane & Thrane A/S trading as Cobham SATCOM, Lundtoftegaardsvej 93 D,
DK-2800, KGS. LYNGBY, Denmark. +45 3955 8800
www.cobham.com/satcom<http://www.cobham.com/satcom>

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Re: [Framers] Different page sizes in FM document

[Art Campbell]

Doug's right on the basics.

If you want to have the chapter content flow and "stick" to the designated
page format, you need to also create a unique tag to invoke the page using
a Unstructured Master Page Map table on a reference page.

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After it's set up (maybe 20 minutes), you need to execute the Apply Master
Pages command to refresh the pagination either manually, or as part of your
book building process.

You can optionally lock pagination and freeze the doc with ESC F l k.

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On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:52 AM Doug  wrote:

> I believe all you need to do is create a new master page and specify the
> size for it.  Haven't tried it though.
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:05 AM Crety, Christiane <
> christiane.cr...@cobham.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Framers,
> > Does anyone know if it's possible in FM 2019 to have different page sizes
> > within the same FM document? We may need to include diagrams etc. in A3
> > format in one of our A4 FM books. It would be a pain to have to create a
> > separate file in the middle of a chapter to accommodate the A3 page.
> Isn't
> > it possible to have A3 and A4 Master pages in the same document?
> > Thanks in advance :)
> > Christiane
> >
> > --
> > Christiane Crety
> > Technical writer
> > Cobham SATCOM
> > T : +45 3955 8682
> > M : +45 2092 2704
> > christiane.cr...@cobham.com
> >
> > Thrane & Thrane A/S trading as Cobham SATCOM, Lundtoftegaardsvej 93 D,
> > DK-2800, KGS. LYNGBY, Denmark. +45 3955 8800 www.cobham.com/satcom<
> > http://www.cobham.com/satcom>
> >
> > Registered office Lundtoftegaardsvej 93D, DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, Denmark.
> > Registered number DK - 65724618.
> >
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Re: [Framers] Different page sizes in FM document

[Doug]

I believe all you need to do is create a new master page and specify the
size for it.  Haven't tried it though.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:05 AM Crety, Christiane <
christiane.cr...@cobham.com> wrote:

> Hi Framers,
> Does anyone know if it's possible in FM 2019 to have different page sizes
> within the same FM document? We may need to include diagrams etc. in A3
> format in one of our A4 FM books. It would be a pain to have to create a
> separate file in the middle of a chapter to accommodate the A3 page. Isn't
> it possible to have A3 and A4 Master pages in the same document?
> Thanks in advance :)
> Christiane
>
> --
> Christiane Crety
> Technical writer
> Cobham SATCOM
> T : +45 3955 8682
> M : +45 2092 2704
> christiane.cr...@cobham.com
>
> Thrane & Thrane A/S trading as Cobham SATCOM, Lundtoftegaardsvej 93 D,
> DK-2800, KGS. LYNGBY, Denmark. +45 3955 8800 www.cobham.com/satcom<
> http://www.cobham.com/satcom>
>
> Registered office Lundtoftegaardsvej 93D, DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, Denmark.
> Registered number DK - 65724618.
>
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[Framers] Different page sizes in FM document

[Crety, Christiane]

Hi Framers,
Does anyone know if it's possible in FM 2019 to have different page sizes 
within the same FM document? We may need to include diagrams etc. in A3 format 
in one of our A4 FM books. It would be a pain to have to create a separate file 
in the middle of a chapter to accommodate the A3 page. Isn't it possible to 
have A3 and A4 Master pages in the same document?
Thanks in advance :)
Christiane

--
Christiane Crety
Technical writer
Cobham SATCOM
T : +45 3955 8682
M : +45 2092 2704
christiane.cr...@cobham.com

Thrane & Thrane A/S trading as Cobham SATCOM, Lundtoftegaardsvej 93 D, DK-2800, 
KGS. LYNGBY, Denmark. +45 3955 8800 
www.cobham.com/satcom

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Registered number DK - 65724618.

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