Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Michael Lewis]

Thanks, Tom - I've only done a basic test, and have yet to satisfy 
myself that _nothing else_ is affected, but thus far it looks good.


- Michael Lewis



On 17/05/2017 00:46, Schmidt, Tom wrote:

I have same problem and here's the best fix I've found...


1.  Go to the Task Manager
2.  Click the Processes tab
3.  Find DWM.exe, and end task on that file. (Might have to end task on it 
twice, but rarely.)

FM recovers without having to close program.



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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Robert Lauriston]

On the other hand, any XP computer that has been regularly connecting
to the Internet for the past four years is probably part of a botnet.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It's not entirely correct that Microsoft stopped issuing security patches for 
> Windows XP three years ago. That's when extended support officially ended, 
> but there have been at least two critical security updates released since 
> then -- one in the first year after the official end of support, and one in 
> the last week to address the WannaCry/WannaCrypt ransomware attack.
>
>
> 
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
> behalf of Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:47 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes
>
> It should not have problems if you install it on a real XP computer,
> except that XP is highly insecure since Microsoft stopped issuing
> security updates three years ago.
>
> Windows XP mode works fine for me to run old software under 64-bit Windows 7.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
> <dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker 7.2, I
>> was using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively easy to move
>> this project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is that likely to
>> solve the problem and make life a whole lot easier?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Fred Ridder]

It's not entirely correct that Microsoft stopped issuing security patches for 
Windows XP three years ago. That's when extended support officially ended, but 
there have been at least two critical security updates released since then -- 
one in the first year after the official end of support, and one in the last 
week to address the WannaCry/WannaCrypt ransomware attack.



From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

It should not have problems if you install it on a real XP computer,
except that XP is highly insecure since Microsoft stopped issuing
security updates three years ago.

Windows XP mode works fine for me to run old software under 64-bit Windows 7.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
<dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker 7.2, I
> was using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively easy to move
> this project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is that likely to
> solve the problem and make life a whole lot easier?
>
> I don't recall encountering this issue is my previous applications.
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Robert Lauriston]

It should not have problems if you install it on a real XP computer,
except that XP is highly insecure since Microsoft stopped issuing
security updates three years ago.

Windows XP mode works fine for me to run old software under 64-bit Windows 7.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
 wrote:
> Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker 7.2, I
> was using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively easy to move
> this project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is that likely to
> solve the problem and make life a whole lot easier?
>
> I don't recall encountering this issue is my previous applications.
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Schmidt, Tom]

I have same problem and here's the best fix I've found...


1.  Go to the Task Manager
2.  Click the Processes tab
3.  Find DWM.exe, and end task on that file. (Might have to end task on it 
twice, but rarely.)

FM recovers without having to close program.

-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+tschmidt=gedusa@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:50 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

I blush to admit that I am still using FM 7. I used it professionally for a 
long time, and produced many technical and academic texts with it, despite the 
hassles of getting colleagues to deal with PDF commenting; but as a retired 
person I don't need and can't justify any upgrade.
Anyway, the point is that only under Win 10 (which I hate for many other
reasons) do I have this problem: if I hold down the left mouse button for 
anything that FM apparently considers "too long", FM freezes. I'm trying to 
train myself to use the cursor keys more than I used to, but it's still a pain.

I don't expect Adobe to produce a fix for FM 7, but it would be interesting to 
see where the problem is coming from.

- Michael Lewis


On 16/05/2017 11:53, Dennis Brunnenmeyer wrote:

> Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker
> 7.2, I was using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively
> easy to move this project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is
> that likely to solve the problem and make life a whole lot easier?
>
> I don't recall encountering this issue is my previous applications.
>

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)]

To add to my initial "upgrade" I will say that the click/drag bug was there
in some way in many versions. I would select a text frame, resize... crash.
I'd hold the button down, say a prayer, hope for the best... crash.

I found workarounds, but it just was a headache to do it every time. When it
crashed I was upset (see, nice and polite word) and expressed it (with words
that were NOT as nice and polite), and loved it when the bugs got fixed. I
have some clients still on versions 5 or 6 (and 7, 8, etc) but upgrading is
pretty simple in most cases, and the value in some incremental stuff may not
be there (some people stay with version X since version X+1 had minor
changes). However, jumping from a single digit version (7, 8, 9) to 2017 is
a major change.

If you do it, prepare to be frustrated by things moving on menus, but the
majority of the functions are still there. With 2017 there is enough (press
F7 almost anywhere to get a contextual menu of 'things you can do') that
makes it a major update, plus the first full quarterly patch is out so
initial bugs are resolved. Sure, there are still some things to deal with,
but it is a lot smoother than previous versions. Sounds weird to describe it
as such, but that's the best I have early in the day.

You can always download the trial, test it, and then decide. Like any new
product there will be the times you say "where is THAT thing I want", but it
is pretty sweet once it's running. Plus, if it does NOT do what you want,
just go back to the previous. As always, back up files before doing work,
and track what you do to ensure you can re-do it if you really need it in an
older version. Plus, there is always MIF.

Mileage will vary, but do consider the work to maintain a VM (I run a few of
them myself) as well as older software and the lack of support for them
after 5 or 10+ years of development into newer products.

Hope that helps a bit.

Bernard



-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:55 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

When I first moved to Windows 7 I did not even manage to install Frame 7.2
with all of the patches.

We used an XP emulator and it worked very well

In addition, instead of dragging with a mouse, you can select text by
clicking at the beginning and pressing shift and at the end (instead of
dragging). This often works much better

Caroline Tabach
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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

If you're not running it in Windows XP Mode, try that. It worked for me.
Download it here:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh859554.aspx

Installation instructions (with an outdated download link) here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx%3Fid=8002

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
<dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Robert Lauriston 
> <rob...@lauriston.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Which version of Windows are you running?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Caroline Tabach]

When I first moved to Windows 7 I did not even manage to install Frame 7.2  
with all of the patches.

We used an XP emulator and it worked very well

In addition, instead of dragging with a mouse, you can select text by clicking 
at the beginning and pressing shift and at the end (instead of dragging). This 
often works much better

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042


-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:43 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

If you're not running it in Windows XP Mode, try that. It worked for me. 
Download it here:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh859554.aspx

Installation instructions (with an outdated download link) here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx%3Fid=8002

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer 
<dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Robert Lauriston 
> <rob...@lauriston.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Which version of Windows are you running?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Frank Stearns]

Older versions of FM sometimes seem unhappy running directly in a 
newer OS.


Try VirtualBox from Oracle. It's free; you can set up a virtual XP 
environment under Win 7 or Win 10, install FM in that XP world, and 
away you go, often faster and without those quirks compared to 
running the older FM natively. (I've found the emulator offering from 
Microsoft to be lacking and unreliable. What a surprise.)


With a few configuration tweaks, the virtual environment can r/w 
"real" disk locations outside the environment, you can copy and paste 
(control-C/V) to and from apps inside and outside the virtual 
environment, and you can send/receive from your USB devices, such as 
printers, keyboards, mice.


Two caveats: You'll need original XP disks to do the install; and so 
far there is no support for firewire devices.


Overall a headache saver and in our case, we have a 25 year-old custom 
database that's impossible to run in Win7 but works just fine in 
Virtualbox. A HUGE time saver and business saver, actually -- we were 
unable to rewrite that db for a newer OS. And oh, btw, FM7.x runs 
nicely in that environment as well. :)


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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Michael Lewis]

I blush to admit that I am still using FM 7. I used it professionally 
for a long time, and produced many technical and academic texts with it, 
despite the hassles of getting colleagues to deal with PDF commenting; 
but as a retired person I don't need and can't justify any upgrade. 
Anyway, the point is that only under Win 10 (which I hate for many other 
reasons) do I have this problem: if I hold down the left mouse button 
for anything that FM apparently considers "too long", FM freezes. I'm 
trying to train myself to use the cursor keys more than I used to, but 
it's still a pain.


I don't expect Adobe to produce a fix for FM 7, but it would be 
interesting to see where the problem is coming from.


- Michael Lewis


On 16/05/2017 11:53, Dennis Brunnenmeyer wrote:


Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker 7.2, I
was using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively easy to move
this project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is that likely to
solve the problem and make life a whole lot easier?

I don't recall encountering this issue is my previous applications.



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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Ragnar Hanås]

I had the same issues on W7. With W8.1 on a new computer it happens very 
seldom. I still use FM7.2 (unstructured) as it has all I need. I did purchase 
both FM9 and 10 but didn't find them good enough to go through the learning 
curve with the new interface.
Ragnar Hanas, MD
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker 7.2, I was 
using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively easy to move this 
project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is that likely to solve the 
problem and make life a whole lot easier?

I don't recall encountering this issue is my previous applications.

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wrote:

> If you're not running it in Windows XP Mode, try that. It worked for 
> me. Download it here:
>
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh859554.aspx
>
> Installation instructions (with an outdated download link) here:
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx%3Fid=8002
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer 
> <dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit.
> >
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Robert Lauriston 
> > <rob...@lauriston.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Which version of Windows are you running?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Dennis Brunnenmeyer]

Now that you mention it, in my previous encounters with FrameMaker 7.2, I
was using a 32-bit Windows XP/SP3 PC. It would be relatively easy to move
this project to a PC that I have sitting around here. Is that likely to
solve the problem and make life a whole lot easier?

I don't recall encountering this issue is my previous applications.

--
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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> If you're not running it in Windows XP Mode, try that. It worked for
> me. Download it here:
>
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh859554.aspx
>
> Installation instructions (with an outdated download link) here:
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx%3Fid=8002
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
>  wrote:
> > Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit.
> >
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Robert Lauriston 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Which version of Windows are you running?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Robert Lauriston]

If you're not running it in Windows XP Mode, try that. It worked for
me. Download it here:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh859554.aspx

Installation instructions (with an outdated download link) here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx%3Fid=8002

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
 wrote:
> Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Robert Lauriston 
> wrote:
>
>> Which version of Windows are you running?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Dennis Brunnenmeyer]

It's not an evil suggestion, but I am under considerable pressure to meet a
critical deadline. I don't have the funds to upgrade nor the time to climb
yet another steep learning curve.

Dennis...

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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter) <
bern...@publishingsmarter.com> wrote:

> At the risk of sounding evil, have you considered an upgrade? Legit
> question. Even if you use the trial version for 2017, see if it works. The
> time saved may well be worth the cost. Add in reduced therapy costs... :)
>
> Bernard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
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> ]
> On Behalf Of Dennis Brunnenmeyer
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:06 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes
>
> I've been struggling with this issue for some time. It's costing me untold
> hours of lost time, forcing me to restart the application, re-open the
> document and start over from the point where I last saved the file.
> Unfortunately, I can't be expected to save tge file after every keystroke.
>
> Attempting to delete a block of text by dragging over it with the cursor,
> no
> matter how few characters or lines are highlighted, causes the program to
> freeze, forcing a restart. The only way I can delete more than a few
> characters at a time is to hold down the Delete key until the desired block
> of text is, well, deleted.
>
> Is there a fix for this?
>
> Dennis...
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Dennis Brunnenmeyer]

Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit.

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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> Which version of Windows are you running?
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
>  wrote:
> > I've been struggling with this issue for some time. It's costing me
> untold
> > hours of lost time, forcing me to restart the application, re-open the
> > document and start over from the point where I last saved the file.
> > Unfortunately, I can't be expected to save tge file after every
> keystroke.
> >
> > Attempting to delete a block of text by dragging over it with the cursor,
> > no matter how few characters or lines are highlighted, causes the program
> > to freeze, forcing a restart. The only way I can delete more than a few
> > characters at a time is to hold down the Delete key until the desired
> block
> > of text is, well, deleted.
> >
> > Is there a fix for this?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Robert Lauriston]

Which version of Windows are you running?

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
 wrote:
> I've been struggling with this issue for some time. It's costing me untold
> hours of lost time, forcing me to restart the application, re-open the
> document and start over from the point where I last saved the file.
> Unfortunately, I can't be expected to save tge file after every keystroke.
>
> Attempting to delete a block of text by dragging over it with the cursor,
> no matter how few characters or lines are highlighted, causes the program
> to freeze, forcing a restart. The only way I can delete more than a few
> characters at a time is to hold down the Delete key until the desired block
> of text is, well, deleted.
>
> Is there a fix for this?
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Alan Litchfield]

I would suggest you mif wash the document.

Save the document to mif, delete the offending text in the mif and save 
the document back to Frame.


Alan

On 16/05/17 13:06, Dennis Brunnenmeyer wrote:

I've been struggling with this issue for some time. It's costing me untold
hours of lost time, forcing me to restart the application, re-open the
document and start over from the point where I last saved the file.
Unfortunately, I can't be expected to save tge file after every keystroke.

Attempting to delete a block of text by dragging over it with the cursor,
no matter how few characters or lines are highlighted, causes the program
to freeze, forcing a restart. The only way I can delete more than a few
characters at a time is to hold down the Delete key until the desired block
of text is, well, deleted.

Is there a fix for this?

Dennis...
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Host | Nevada City Limits
KVMR-FM / KCPC-FM Radio
120 Bridge Street
Nevada City, CA 95959
p: (530) 477-9015
m: (530) 320-9025
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denn...@kvmr.org
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)]

At the risk of sounding evil, have you considered an upgrade? Legit
question. Even if you use the trial version for 2017, see if it works. The
time saved may well be worth the cost. Add in reduced therapy costs... :)

Bernard



-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:06 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

I've been struggling with this issue for some time. It's costing me untold
hours of lost time, forcing me to restart the application, re-open the
document and start over from the point where I last saved the file.
Unfortunately, I can't be expected to save tge file after every keystroke.

Attempting to delete a block of text by dragging over it with the cursor, no
matter how few characters or lines are highlighted, causes the program to
freeze, forcing a restart. The only way I can delete more than a few
characters at a time is to hold down the Delete key until the desired block
of text is, well, deleted.

Is there a fix for this?

Dennis...
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Host | Nevada City Limits
KVMR-FM / KCPC-FM Radio
120 Bridge Street
Nevada City, CA 95959
p: (530) 477-9015
m: (530) 320-9025
dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com
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denn...@kvmr.org
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[Framers] FrameMaker 7.2 Crashes

[Dennis Brunnenmeyer]

I've been struggling with this issue for some time. It's costing me untold
hours of lost time, forcing me to restart the application, re-open the
document and start over from the point where I last saved the file.
Unfortunately, I can't be expected to save tge file after every keystroke.

Attempting to delete a block of text by dragging over it with the cursor,
no matter how few characters or lines are highlighted, causes the program
to freeze, forcing a restart. The only way I can delete more than a few
characters at a time is to hold down the Delete key until the desired block
of text is, well, deleted.

Is there a fix for this?

Dennis...
--
Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Host | Nevada City Limits
KVMR-FM / KCPC-FM Radio
120 Bridge Street
Nevada City, CA 95959
p: (530) 477-9015
m: (530) 320-9025
dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com
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