Re: [Framers] My Structured App Not Showing
cuctu, That difference in the number of structured apps you are seeing may be due to the fact that there are two locations that store the stuctured app information. One is the for the local user. The path depends on the version of FM. On one of my installations (an FM13 installation) that path is: C:\Users\Craig2\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\13\structapps.fm The more general structapps.fm is at: C:\Programs(x86)\AdobeFrameMaker2015\Structure\structapps.fm As I recall the one that is read on startup (at least around FM10) was the general one. I think they fixed this in later versions so that it always reads and writes to the local copy by default. Also as Rick mentioned, after you add and structured app to structapps.fm you have to read the file in again for it to take effect. Craig From: Framers on behalf of cuc tu Subject: [Framers] My Structured App Not Showing Hi All, I'm trying to set a simple structured app so I can read in xml and apply formatting, somewhere I am missing something as I only see two dita and one xdocbook apps available. A few times I've seen a whole list of about 20 and cannot figure out where is the problem. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] My Structured App Not Showing
Framers, I found an old version (FM9) of the structure developer guide and went through that quick start overview. I needed to create a rw rules file, and now it's working. I'm having an anomaly in the structure view pain :) - it's not scrolling properly. That will be another topic. Thanks for bearing with this. C2 From: cuc tu Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 7:35 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: My Structured App Not Showing Framers, A few more details. I typed my application name into my EDD and went through the process again. This time when saving the DTD, I was not presented with the structured application selection dialog. I forgot to mention there was a dialog before that gave of choice of SGML or XML, I picked XML, but that did not appear after including my application name in the EDD. When saving my DTD previously, I had many str-app choices, including the one I named. I picked that once or twice when doing this. There is also some details about adding the details to the structured application definition file. That seems to get done automatically using the designer. Here are referenced I've been reading: https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/using-framemaker-2015/frm_structauth_sa/Build_a_structured_application-.htm http://www.frameusers.com/uploads/2016/09/First-steps-in-structure.pdf I am now reading the bottom of page 23(27) of this nebulous document: https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/StructuredDev/Structure_Dev_Reference.pdf C2 From: cuc tu Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 6:34 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: My Structured App Not Showing Hi All, I'm trying to set a simple structured app so I can read in xml and apply formatting, somewhere I am missing something as I only see two dita and one xdocbook apps available. A few times I've seen a whole list of about 20 and cannot figure out where is the problem. I make a new EDD in Frame and it validates. It is flat: EDD Version is 12.0 Structured Application: Do not create formats on import. Element (Container): Reference Valid as the highest-level element. General rule: Element (Container): Title General rule: Element (Container): Subheading General rule: Element (Container): Command General rule: Element (Container): Name General rule: Element (Container): title-label General rule: Element (Container): show General rule: Element (Container): data General rule: Element (Container): pre General rule: Element (Container): Name2 General rule: Then I use StructureTools to save as a DTD, selecting : I also create a blank FM file and import elements from my EDD. All of these files are saved in the program directory specified in my DTD. Now I will open the Structured Application Designer with Blank Application, I will set the the file paths to my DTD, EDD, and scpi-template.fm files, give it a name and save. Now I will try to open the xml file. I do not know what needs to be in the header, but that's my guess. I've also tried it without the path (just "DTD12.dtd: ]> Commands SYSTEM Commands *CLS Title: Clear Status Command Description: This command clears all status data structures in the device (registers and error queue) and forces the Operaton Complete state to Idle. Parameter(s): none Frame offers only the three structured apps, not mine, so I'm lost. I've done this many times and a few times I was able to see my app, but I had specified the element in lower case and frame seemed to be complaining about that and would not open the file. I know I need to add a lot more to my EDD and rebuild this, I just want something simple to work and I just cannot get there. Thanks for any insights. C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] My Structured App Not Showing
Framers, A few more details. I typed my application name into my EDD and went through the process again. This time when saving the DTD, I was not presented with the structured application selection dialog. I forgot to mention there was a dialog before that gave of choice of SGML or XML, I picked XML, but that did not appear after including my application name in the EDD. When saving my DTD previously, I had many str-app choices, including the one I named. I picked that once or twice when doing this. There is also some details about adding the details to the structured application definition file. That seems to get done automatically using the designer. Here are referenced I've been reading: https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/using-framemaker-2015/frm_structauth_sa/Build_a_structured_application-.htm http://www.frameusers.com/uploads/2016/09/First-steps-in-structure.pdf I am now reading the bottom of page 23(27) of this nebulous document: https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/StructuredDev/Structure_Dev_Reference.pdf C2 From: cuc tu Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 6:34 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: My Structured App Not Showing Hi All, I'm trying to set a simple structured app so I can read in xml and apply formatting, somewhere I am missing something as I only see two dita and one xdocbook apps available. A few times I've seen a whole list of about 20 and cannot figure out where is the problem. I make a new EDD in Frame and it validates. It is flat: EDD Version is 12.0 Structured Application: Do not create formats on import. Element (Container): Reference Valid as the highest-level element. General rule: Element (Container): Title General rule: Element (Container): Subheading General rule: Element (Container): Command General rule: Element (Container): Name General rule: Element (Container): title-label General rule: Element (Container): show General rule: Element (Container): data General rule: Element (Container): pre General rule: Element (Container): Name2 General rule: Then I use StructureTools to save as a DTD, selecting : I also create a blank FM file and import elements from my EDD. All of these files are saved in the program directory specified in my DTD. Now I will open the Structured Application Designer with Blank Application, I will set the the file paths to my DTD, EDD, and scpi-template.fm files, give it a name and save. Now I will try to open the xml file. I do not know what needs to be in the header, but that's my guess. I've also tried it without the path (just "DTD12.dtd: ]> Commands SYSTEM Commands *CLS Title: Clear Status Command Description: This command clears all status data structures in the device (registers and error queue) and forces the Operaton Complete state to Idle. Parameter(s): none Frame offers only the three structured apps, not mine, so I'm lost. I've done this many times and a few times I was able to see my app, but I had specified the element in lower case and frame seemed to be complaining about that and would not open the file. I know I need to add a lot more to my EDD and rebuild this, I just want something simple to work and I just cannot get there. Thanks for any insights. C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] My Structured App Not Showing
Hi C2, I have never used the Structured Application Designer. Then manual way may be easier anyway: 1) Choose Structure > Application Definition > Edit Application Definitions. 2) Display the Structure View and Element Catalog. 3) Insert an XMLApplication element and the required child elements. 4) Each time you make a change and want to test it, choose > Structure > Application Definition > Read Application Definitions (with the structapps.fm file active). Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 NEW! -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of cuc tu Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 9:35 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] My Structured App Not Showing Hi All, I'm trying to set a simple structured app so I can read in xml and apply formatting, somewhere I am missing something as I only see two dita and one xdocbook apps available. A few times I've seen a whole list of about 20 and cannot figure out where is the problem. I make a new EDD in Frame and it validates. It is flat: EDD Version is 12.0 Structured Application: Do not create formats on import. Element (Container): Reference Valid as the highest-level element. General rule: Element (Container): Title General rule: Element (Container): Subheading General rule: Element (Container): Command General rule: Element (Container): Name General rule: Element (Container): title-label General rule: Element (Container): show General rule: Element (Container): data General rule: Element (Container): pre General rule: Element (Container): Name2 General rule: Then I use StructureTools to save as a DTD, selecting : I also create a blank FM file and import elements from my EDD. All of these files are saved in the program directory specified in my DTD. Now I will open the Structured Application Designer with Blank Application, I will set the the file paths to my DTD, EDD, and scpi-template.fm files, give it a name and save. Now I will try to open the xml file. I do not know what needs to be in the header, but that's my guess. I've also tried it without the path (just "DTD12.dtd: ]> Commands SYSTEM Commands *CLS Title: Clear Status Command Description: This command clears all status data structures in the device (registers and error queue) and forces the Operaton Complete state to Idle. Parameter(s): none Frame offers only the three structured apps, not mine, so I'm lost. I've done this many times and a few times I was able to see my app, but I had specified the element in lower case and frame seemed to be complaining about that and would not open the file. I know I need to add a lot more to my EDD and rebuild this, I just want something simple to work and I just cannot get there. Thanks for any insights. C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] My Structured App Not Showing
Hi All, I'm trying to set a simple structured app so I can read in xml and apply formatting, somewhere I am missing something as I only see two dita and one xdocbook apps available. A few times I've seen a whole list of about 20 and cannot figure out where is the problem. I make a new EDD in Frame and it validates. It is flat: EDD Version is 12.0 Structured Application: Do not create formats on import. Element (Container): Reference Valid as the highest-level element. General rule: Element (Container): Title General rule: Element (Container): Subheading General rule: Element (Container): Command General rule: Element (Container): Name General rule: Element (Container): title-label General rule: Element (Container): show General rule: Element (Container): data General rule: Element (Container): pre General rule: Element (Container): Name2 General rule: Then I use StructureTools to save as a DTD, selecting : I also create a blank FM file and import elements from my EDD. All of these files are saved in the program directory specified in my DTD. Now I will open the Structured Application Designer with Blank Application, I will set the the file paths to my DTD, EDD, and scpi-template.fm files, give it a name and save. Now I will try to open the xml file. I do not know what needs to be in the header, but that's my guess. I've also tried it without the path (just "DTD12.dtd: ]> Commands SYSTEM Commands *CLS Title: Clear Status Command Description: This command clears all status data structures in the device (registers and error queue) and forces the Operaton Complete state to Idle. Parameter(s): none Frame offers only the three structured apps, not mine, so I'm lost. I've done this many times and a few times I was able to see my app, but I had specified the element in lower case and frame seemed to be complaining about that and would not open the file. I know I need to add a lot more to my EDD and rebuild this, I just want something simple to work and I just cannot get there. Thanks for any insights. C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
