[wwp-users] ePP is ignoring filename markers

2008-09-24 Thread Callie Bertsche
Thanks, Franz. Replies inline. 


>Callie: 
>
>I understand your frustration but I don't understand why you upgraded
from
>9.1 to 9.2 *now*. Was it the EOL announcement for 9.1 or did you need
some feature from 9.2 in your current 
>project?

Yes, I needed the increased usability in 9.2 of passing variable names
from source docs. I had a problem with this in 9.1, and moving to 9.2
fixed that problem. Moving from 9.1 to 9.2 was not much work and worth
it for this feature, even though post-release I intend to research the
steeper learning curve of a new tool.

>
># For fun, I took out all other page break priorities marked in # one
of the # offending files. Still no 
>filename markers caused page breaks - my doc # generated as one long
page.

I was hoping to beat the second beast out of the woods by eliminating
the first beast. Thanks for illuminating their intertwined nature.

>
>That's because filename markers and page break priorities are 2 totally
different beasts:
>
>1. You set page break priorities using the property with this name in
your heading paragraph formats.
>
>2. The filename marker only tells ePP *how* to name the files for the
topics you divided your source docs into >using the heading paragraph
formats with their page break priorities.
>
>So I suggest to look into the heading format definitions and see if the
page break priorites are set there 
>correctly.

I've already tried that, and now I'll go back to that; the heading
format definitions were correct (that is, I was getting page breaks in
all the places that I wanted, just bad filename.html namings) when I
first started having this problem. Any other ideas?

>
>Good luck!
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Franz-Josef



[wwp-users] ePP is ignoring filename markers

2008-09-25 Thread John Pitt
Callie,

Are any of your missing filename changes in the same topic?

When eP scans each Frame/Word source page, it uses the filename marker to
rename the page. But,  if further down the same Topic page it finds another
filename marker, it renames the html file  to use that marker. The net result
is that the first filename marker is ignored.

If this is the case, you have two major choices: 

Use the page break settings to break up the topic so that each filename marker
is on a separate page (as advised by Franz-Josef). 

Or use TopicAlias markers (and a different method of calling the pages in the
parent application). 

It is probably too late now to consider the latter, but in the long term you
will get far better results with that method. I don't know your output format,
but in WebWorks Help 5, using TopicAliases generates a Topics.js file which
developers can hook into to map between their application calls and the file
name and POSITION of the marker on each page:

function  WWHBookData_MatchTopic(P)
{
var C=null;
if(P=="abt_central")C="abt_central.htm#999244";
if(P=="Mail_Merge")C="How_to_create_a_mail_merge.htm#6316358";
if(P=="How_to_create_a_mail_merge")C="How_to_create_a_mail_merge.htm#6316409";

BTW, when Paul Mueller dries out his PCs in Houston, the new eP doco will
contain FAR better descriptions of how to use Filename and TopicAlias markers
than anything that has gone before (and certainly much better than anything I
can come up with :). 

jjj



RE: [wwp-users] ePP is ignoring filename markers

2008-09-24 Thread Callie Bertsche
Thanks, Franz. Replies inline. 


>Callie: 
>
>I understand your frustration but I don't understand why you upgraded
from
>9.1 to 9.2 *now*. Was it the EOL announcement for 9.1 or did you need
some feature from 9.2 in your current 
>project?

Yes, I needed the increased usability in 9.2 of passing variable names
from source docs. I had a problem with this in 9.1, and moving to 9.2
fixed that problem. Moving from 9.1 to 9.2 was not much work and worth
it for this feature, even though post-release I intend to research the
steeper learning curve of a new tool.

>
># For fun, I took out all other page break priorities marked in # one
of the # offending files. Still no 
>filename markers caused page breaks - my doc # generated as one long
page.

I was hoping to beat the second beast out of the woods by eliminating
the first beast. Thanks for illuminating their intertwined nature.

>
>That's because filename markers and page break priorities are 2 totally
different beasts:
>
>1. You set page break priorities using the property with this name in
your heading paragraph formats.
>
>2. The filename marker only tells ePP *how* to name the files for the
topics you divided your source docs into >using the heading paragraph
formats with their page break priorities.
>
>So I suggest to look into the heading format definitions and see if the
page break priorites are set there 
>correctly.

I've already tried that, and now I'll go back to that; the heading
format definitions were correct (that is, I was getting page breaks in
all the places that I wanted, just bad filename.html namings) when I
first started having this problem. Any other ideas?

>
>Good luck!
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Franz-Josef

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RE: [wwp-users] ePP is ignoring filename markers

2008-09-24 Thread John Pitt
Callie,

Are any of your missing filename changes in the same topic?

When eP scans each Frame/Word source page, it uses the filename marker to
rename the page. But,  if further down the same Topic page it finds another
filename marker, it renames the html file  to use that marker. The net result
is that the first filename marker is ignored.

If this is the case, you have two major choices: 

Use the page break settings to break up the topic so that each filename marker
is on a separate page (as advised by Franz-Josef). 

Or use TopicAlias markers (and a different method of calling the pages in the
parent application). 

It is probably too late now to consider the latter, but in the long term you
will get far better results with that method. I don't know your output format,
but in WebWorks Help 5, using TopicAliases generates a Topics.js file which
developers can hook into to map between their application calls and the file
name and POSITION of the marker on each page:

function  WWHBookData_MatchTopic(P)
{
var C=null;
if(P=="abt_central")C="abt_central.htm#999244";
if(P=="Mail_Merge")C="How_to_create_a_mail_merge.htm#6316358";
if(P=="How_to_create_a_mail_merge")C="How_to_create_a_mail_merge.htm#6316409";

BTW, when Paul Mueller dries out his PCs in Houston, the new eP doco will
contain FAR better descriptions of how to use Filename and TopicAlias markers
than anything that has gone before (and certainly much better than anything I
can come up with :). 

jjj

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