RE: Cleaning up color definitions

[Gillian Flato]

George,

It didn't work. I got an error message.

-Gillian

From: Georg Eck [mailto:e...@squidds.de]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:14 AM
To: Gillian Flato; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Cleaning up color definitions

Hi Gillian,

please test the feature: 'Formats' of TOOLBOX for FrameMaker 5 to 9 
(www.toolboxforme.comhttp://www.toolboxforme.com)
or Finalyser for FrameMaker 10 
(www.finalyser-shop.comhttp://www.finalyser-shop.com) you can delete the 
unused colors.
See online-help: 
http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/formats.xml.07.1.html


-  Georg

Your questions:

Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like 
BookVars cleans up variables?

Thank You,

Gillian Flato
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RE: Cleaning up color definitions

[Combs, Richard]

Gillian Flato wrote: 
 
 George,
 
 It didn't work. I got an error message.

You're much more likely to get a helpful response if you begin with: 

It didn't work. I got the following error message: ... 

:-)

Richard G. Combs
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Cleaning up color definitions

[Gillian Flato]

George,

It didn't work. I got an error message.

-Gillian

From: Georg Eck [mailto:e...@squidds.de]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:14 AM
To: Gillian Flato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Cleaning up color definitions

Hi Gillian,

please test the feature: 'Formats' of TOOLBOX for FrameMaker 5 to 9 
(www.toolboxforme.com<http://www.toolboxforme.com>)
or Finalyser for FrameMaker 10 
(www.finalyser-shop.com<http://www.finalyser-shop.com>) you can delete the 
unused colors.
See online-help: 
http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/formats.xml.07.1.html


-  Georg

Your questions:

Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like 
BookVars cleans up variables?

Thank You,

Gillian Flato
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Cleaning up color definitions

[Combs, Richard]

Gillian Flato wrote: 

> George,
> 
> It didn't work. I got an error message.

You're much more likely to get a helpful response if you begin with: 

"It didn't work. I got the following error message: ..." 

:-)

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

Re: Cleaning up color definitions

[Georg Eck]

Hi Gillian,

 

please test the feature: 'Formats' of TOOLBOX for FrameMaker 5 to 9
(www.toolboxforme.com)
or Finalyser for FrameMaker 10 (www.finalyser-shop.com) you can delete
the unused colors.

See online-help:
http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/formats.xm
l.07.1.html

 

-  Georg

 

Your questions:

 

Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like
BookVars cleans up variables?

 

Thank You,

 

Gillian Flato

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Cleaning up color definitions

[Georg Eck]

Hi Gillian,



please test the feature: 'Formats' of TOOLBOX for FrameMaker 5 to 9
(www.toolboxforme.com)
or Finalyser for FrameMaker 10 (www.finalyser-shop.com) you can delete
the unused colors.

See online-help:
http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/formats.xm
l.07.1.html



-  Georg



Your questions:



Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like
BookVars cleans up variables?



Thank You,



Gillian Flato

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Cleaning up color definitions - killing fm_gen colors in the MIF files

[rebecca officer]

Hi Gillian

Thought I'd put this onto the list too, in case other people have the same 
question.

To unlock colors, save as MIF, then search for the string:
 
and globally replace it with nothing.

When you open the file as a .fm again, Framemaker re-applies the 
ColorIsReserved attribute to the basic color set (red etc) but not to the 
fm_gen colors. This means you can use View>Color>Definitions to delete the 
fm_gen colors, though that's slow. 

Instead, you can just delete the fm_gen colors in the MIF by finding them in 
the ColorCatalog section and deleting them. You need to delete the whole 
definition for each color, which looks like this:

 
  
  
  
  
  
 > # end of Color
If you haven't got a huge number of files, this is pretty quick.

If you re-import CT formats from a clean template afterwards, FM will re-create 
the definitions it needs.

And the standard disclaimer: back up your files before you mess with MIFs!

Cheers
Rebecca


>>> Gillian Flato  4/07/12 10:16 >>>

Rebecca,
I would love to know how to unlock those fm_gen colors. I have hundreds of 
them. They are just junk littering my files.
Thanks,
Gillian


From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:12 PM
To: Gillian Flato
Subject: RE: Cleaning up color definitions



Hi Gillian



I've just looked up what we did and it was more complicated than I'd 
remembered. We were trying to clean out FM10's self-generated colours that it 
assigned to overlapping conditional text, and it turns out that FM locks those 
so you can't delete them. We started by doing search and replace on the MIF 
files to unlock the colours, then we ran a script.



I can look up more details if that sounds like the problem you're trying to 
solve, but our script was pretty rough and wouldn't be safe for anyone but us 
to use. The locked self-generated colours were a right pain until we worked out 
how to unlock them. That's not an issue unless you're using overlapping CT and 
want to change the CT indicator colours.



Cheers

Rebecca



>>> Gillian Flato  4/07/12 04:09 >>>
Rebecca,

Do you just manually delete the colors or do you use a script?

Thanks
-Gillian

-Original Message-
From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:00 AM
To: Gillian Flato
Subject: Re: Cleaning up color definitions

No, but we've done it pretty fast by editing MIF files. Let me know if you want 
more detail - I'm at home but can look it up tomorrow.

Cheers
Rebecca

>>> Gillian Flato  07/03/12 6:06 PM >>>
Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like 
BookVars cleans up variables?

Thank You,

Gillian Flato
Senior Content Developer
Skype: Gillian.B.Flato
Gillian.Flato at nexenta.com

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Re: Cleaning up color definitions

[Mike Wickham]

On 7/2/2012 1:39 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:


Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions 
like BookVars cleans up variables?





Check out Color Tools ($10):
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/index.html

Mike Wickham

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RE: Cleaning up color definitions - killing fm_gen colors in the MIF files

[rebecca officer]

Hi Gillian
 
Thought I'd put this onto the list too, in case other people have the same 
question.
 
To unlock colors, save as MIF, then search for the string:
 ColorAttribute ColorIsReserved
and globally replace it with nothing.
 
When you open the file as a .fm again, Framemaker re-applies the 
ColorIsReserved attribute to the basic color set (red etc) but not to the 
fm_gen colors. This means you can use ViewColorDefinitions to delete the 
fm_gen colors, though that's slow. 
 
Instead, you can just delete the fm_gen colors in the MIF by finding them in 
the ColorCatalog section and deleting them. You need to delete the whole 
definition for each color, which looks like this:
 
 Color 
  ColorTag `fm_gen_147474'
  ColorCyan  50.00
  ColorMagenta  100.00
  ColorYellow  50.00
  ColorBlack  0.00
  ColorAttribute ColorIsReserved
  # end of Color
If you haven't got a huge number of files, this is pretty quick.
 
If you re-import CT formats from a clean template afterwards, FM will re-create 
the definitions it needs.
 
And the standard disclaimer: back up your files before you mess with MIFs!
 
Cheers
Rebecca


 Gillian Flato gillian.fl...@nexenta.com 4/07/12 10:16 

Rebecca,
I would love to know how to unlock those fm_gen colors. I have hundreds of 
them. They are just junk littering my files.
Thanks,
Gillian
 

From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:12 PM
To: Gillian Flato
Subject: RE: Cleaning up color definitions

 

Hi Gillian

 

I've just looked up what we did and it was more complicated than I'd 
remembered. We were trying to clean out FM10's self-generated colours that it 
assigned to overlapping conditional text, and it turns out that FM locks those 
so you can't delete them. We started by doing search and replace on the MIF 
files to unlock the colours, then we ran a script.

 

I can look up more details if that sounds like the problem you're trying to 
solve, but our script was pretty rough and wouldn't be safe for anyone but us 
to use. The locked self-generated colours were a right pain until we worked out 
how to unlock them. That's not an issue unless you're using overlapping CT and 
want to change the CT indicator colours.

 

Cheers

Rebecca



 Gillian Flato gillian.fl...@nexenta.com 4/07/12 04:09 
Rebecca,

Do you just manually delete the colors or do you use a script?

Thanks
-Gillian

-Original Message-
From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:00 AM
To: Gillian Flato
Subject: Re: Cleaning up color definitions

No, but we've done it pretty fast by editing MIF files. Let me know if you want 
more detail - I'm at home but can look it up tomorrow.

Cheers
Rebecca

 Gillian Flato gillian.fl...@nexenta.com 07/03/12 6:06 PM 
Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like 
BookVars cleans up variables?

Thank You,

Gillian Flato
Senior Content Developer
Skype: Gillian.B.Flato
gillian.fl...@nexenta.com

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Cleaning up color definitions

[Mike Wickham]

On 7/2/2012 1:39 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions 
> like BookVars cleans up variables?
>
>

Check out Color Tools ($10):
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/index.html

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[Gillian Flato]

Anyone know of a tool that allows you to clean up color definitions like 
BookVars cleans up variables?

Thank You,

Gillian Flato
Senior Content Developer
Skype: Gillian.B.Flato
Gillian.Flato at nexenta.com

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