RE: Technical Writing Suite From Adobe

2006-04-25 Thread hedley . finger
Bill:

 sell into the Academic publishing market

And into the commercial publishing non-fiction market!  Then publishers 
can stop using dumb Cindex and Sky Index to produce indexes that don't 
embed in the source text and have to be done all over again when they (a) 
publish the illustrated edition, (b) publish the paperback edition, (c) 
produce a revised edition with new matter, (d) license the publishing or 
translation rights, or (e) do anything that changes the page breaks and 
screws the index locator numbers.  Using IXgen to edit or translate the 
index while preserving all index entries no matter how pages break has got 
to be a plus.

Trouble is, the outsourcing and cottage-industry nature of publishing 
means all those freelance copy-editors, typographers (book designers), and 
indexers would all have to purchase FrameMaker, whereas EVERYBODY has 
Quark Express, InDesign, and Word.

Sob!

Hedley
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A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

2006-04-25 Thread Scott Abel
Look inside my FrameMaker crystal ball. Can you see what I see? It's a bit 
foggy, but if you concentrate for just a minute, an amazing new product will 
come into focus. It's a technical writers dream come true ...

www.thecontentwrangler.com



Scott Abel
Content Management Strategist
The Content Wrangler, Inc.
3421 Crystal Lakes Court
Sarasota, FL 34235
941-359-3416
abelsp at netdirect.net
www.thecontentwrangler.com


A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

2006-04-25 Thread Rick Quatro
But what would be *new* about it, except for existing products being bundled 
together? This may be beneficial for someone just starting out, but for 
those of us that already have a couple of the products, buying the bundle 
will likely be more expensive than buying the missing pieces. And bundling 
the software doesn't mean that they work in an integrated fashion like the 
Creative Suite products.

Look into your crystal ball and see if you can see a major upgrade of 
FrameMaker. Then I will be interested.

BTW, I was disappointed in the way Adobe priced the original Creative Suite. 
I was a licensed user of InDesign, Illustrator, and Acrobat, but I couldn't 
jump in at a reduced price because I didn't have the full version of 
Photoshop.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Look inside my FrameMaker crystal ball. Can you see what I see? It's a bit 
> foggy, but if you concentrate for just a minute, an amazing new product 
> will come into focus. It's a technical writers dream come true ...
>
> www.thecontentwrangler.com
>
> Scott Abel
> Content Management Strategist
> The Content Wrangler, Inc.
> 3421 Crystal Lakes Court
> Sarasota, FL 34235
> 941-359-3416
> abelsp at netdirect.net
> www.thecontentwrangler.com
> ___




A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

2006-04-25 Thread Bill Swallow
A few flaws in this "vision"...

One, RoboHelp for FrameMaker was discontinued long ago and even though
the source code is now in Adobe's hands, they have a significant chunk
of it to either fix or toss and rewrite. RHFM was clunky, a resource
hog, slow as molasses, and buggy, and had very little chance of truly
getting off the ground.

I'd say Adobe is heading in the wrong direction if they are seriously
considering a FM+RH solution for tech writers. They should be focusing
on XML processing and conversion and not bother with UI tweaking
baloney. Well, that's my opinion, anyway.

So was this an Adobe announcement or some odd speculation by The
Content Wrangler? Did the Content Wrangler actually have supporting
info on this? I didn't see much real meaty content there on his site
at all. Given that, I'll treat this as bunk until I see some real
info.

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Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com



A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

2006-04-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
Total and utter speculation by "The Content Wrangler"
without any announcements, leaks (credible or otherwise),
or other evidence to back it up ... 

> -Original Message-
> From: lists.frameusers.com 
>  On Behalf Of Bill Swallow
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:14 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?
> 
> A few flaws in this "vision"...
> 
> One, RoboHelp for FrameMaker was discontinued long ago and 
> even though the source code is now in Adobe's hands, they 
> have a significant chunk of it to either fix or toss and 
> rewrite. RHFM was clunky, a resource hog, slow as molasses, 
> and buggy, and had very little chance of truly getting off the ground.
> 
> I'd say Adobe is heading in the wrong direction if they are 
> seriously considering a FM+RH solution for tech writers. They 
> should be focusing on XML processing and conversion and not 
> bother with UI tweaking baloney. Well, that's my opinion, anyway.
> 
> So was this an Adobe announcement or some odd speculation by 
> The Content Wrangler? Did the Content Wrangler actually have 
> supporting info on this? I didn't see much real meaty content 
> there on his site at all. Given that, I'll treat this as bunk 
> until I see some real info.
> 
> --
> Bill Swallow



A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

2006-04-25 Thread Bill Swallow
That's what I thought.

GIGO.

On 4/25/06, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
> Total and utter speculation by "The Content Wrangler"
> without any announcements, leaks (credible or otherwise),
> or other evidence to back it up ...

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Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com