Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
That's one thing, but they also put together various dialog boxes to make things easier. Watch the presentation and the video which is linked from the middle of the presentation. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Art Campbell wrote: > It means that the interface has been Adobe-ized, updated from the > traditional FM look and feel. Pallets like Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. > > If you already know FM, your learning curve may last through two cups > of coffee, if you drink slow. > > Art > > Art Campbell >art.campbell at gmail.com <mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com> > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, John Sgammato > mailto:jsgammato at imprivata.com>> wrote: > > There is a more detailed presentation at > https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/ > The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23. > I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews. > > john > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com>] On Behalf Of Shmuel > Wolfson > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM > To: Framers > Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication > > Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2: > http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/ > It looks nice. > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > Carrie Baker wrote: > > I looked at their announcement. > > What do you think they mean by > > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently > through a > > completely redesigned user experience." > > > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > > > > _ > > Message: 38 > > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > > From: "Yves Barbion" <mailto:yves.barbion at gmail.com>> > > Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com> > > Message-ID: > > > <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com > <mailto:2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi FrameUsers > > It's here: > > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > > > Cheers > > -- > > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker > Instructor > > www.scripto.nu <http://www.scripto.nu> ? skype: yves.barbion ? > T: +32 494 12 01 89 > > > _ > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgammato at imprivata.com > <mailto:jsgammato at imprivata.com>. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat > a.com <http://a.com> > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com > <mailto:listadmin at frameusers.com>. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com > <mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com>. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> > or visit > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com > <mailto:listadmin at frameusers.com>. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
I concur with Bernard's analysis. I too have worked with the product for some time. The pods in the workspaces allow you to see nearly all of your marker content at one time. You can sort contents of pods in a variety of ways for pre-flighting or troubleshooting a document. Pods for Cross References will color code unresolved cross references (avoiding the "one-at-a-time" search routine.) And, you can finally replace missing fonts on a per document (or book) basis, without editing maker.ini and restarting FrameMaker. In short, after a couple of days working with FM9, I found it irritating to work with FM8. Yes, there is a learning curve, but it is well worth it. FrameMaker's previous user interface jelled around 1994, and after 15 years, it is time for a change. The new UI will also make the product more accessible to new users and end the frustration we've all experienced in "getting the people down the hall to use the product" instead of Word or other inappropriate choices for high page count projects. _ Maxwell Hoffmann Director, Document Globalization Practice Globalization Partners International (GPI) www.globalizationpartners.com tel: 866.272.5874 direct: 503.336-5952mobile: 503.805.3719 fax: 202.478.0956 skype: maxwell.hoffmann email: mhoffm...@globalizationpartners.com Follow me on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann Globalization Partners International, LLC provides document, software and website translation services into over 100 languages including Arabic, Chinese, French, German, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, and Spanish. Click here to see our latest service: http://tinyurl.com/gpi-doc-analyze -Original Message- From: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter) [mailto:bern...@publishingsmarter.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:09 AM To: 'Carrie Baker'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication It will be a learning curve for experienced users. I've been working with this for a while now and I can tell you that it takes a while to get used to it. However, much like working with other tools, it's now a lot easier to configure the system for what I'm doing, rather than for what the application feels like presenting to me. It's been a long time coming, but it feels more like an Adobe tool. If you use things like Photoshop, or Acrobat, or any other major Adobe tool, you have a way to configure the interface to do what you want, rather than what the dev team decided. [snip] So, the answer to the question of 'Does anyone know if this is a "good thing"' is a "yes" but a qualified one. It's a good thing IF you are willing to take the time to work through the learning curve. Once that's done though, then it's a much smoother ride and, like the new car, can make the small bumps seem smoother, the long trips a bit less tiring, and ultimately make the destination the focus point, not the individual issues that come up along the way. I hope that helps out. Bernard Bernard Aschwanden President Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
I concur with Bernard's analysis. I too have worked with the product for some time. The pods in the workspaces allow you to see nearly all of your marker content at one time. You can sort contents of pods in a variety of ways for pre-flighting or troubleshooting a document. Pods for Cross References will color code unresolved cross references (avoiding the "one-at-a-time" search routine.) And, you can finally replace missing fonts on a per document (or book) basis, without editing maker.ini and restarting FrameMaker. In short, after a couple of days working with FM9, I found it irritating to work with FM8. Yes, there is a learning curve, but it is well worth it. FrameMaker's previous user interface jelled around 1994, and after 15 years, it is time for a change. The new UI will also make the product more accessible to new users and end the frustration we've all experienced in "getting the people down the hall to use the product" instead of Word or other inappropriate choices for high page count projects. _ Maxwell ?Hoffmann Director, Document Globalization Practice Globalization Partners International (GPI)??? www.globalizationpartners.com tel: 866.272.5874? direct: 503.336-5952mobile: 503.805.3719??? fax: 202.478.0956 skype: maxwell.hoffmann email: mhoffmann at globalizationpartners.com??? Follow me on TWITTER: http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann Globalization Partners International, LLC provides document, software and website translation services into over 100 languages including Arabic, Chinese, French, German, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, and Spanish. Click here to see our latest service: http://tinyurl.com/gpi-doc-analyze -Original Message- From: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter) [mailto:bernard at publishingsmarter.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:09 AM To: 'Carrie Baker'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication It will be a learning curve for experienced users. I've been working with this for a while now and I can tell you that it takes a while to get used to it. However, much like working with other tools, it's now a lot easier to configure the system for what I'm doing, rather than for what the application feels like presenting to me. It's been a long time coming, but it feels more like an Adobe tool. If you use things like Photoshop, or Acrobat, or any other major Adobe tool, you have a way to configure the interface to do what you want, rather than what the dev team decided. [snip] So, the answer to the question of 'Does anyone know if this is a "good thing"' is a "yes" but a qualified one. It's a good thing IF you are willing to take the time to work through the learning curve. Once that's done though, then it's a much smoother ride and, like the new car, can make the small bumps seem smoother, the long trips a bit less tiring, and ultimately make the destination the focus point, not the individual issues that come up along the way. I hope that helps out. Bernard Bernard Aschwanden President Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com
Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
That's one thing, but they also put together various dialog boxes to make things easier. Watch the presentation and the video which is linked from the middle of the presentation. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Art Campbell wrote: > It means that the interface has been Adobe-ized, updated from the > traditional FM look and feel. Pallets like Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. > > If you already know FM, your learning curve may last through two cups > of coffee, if you drink slow. > > Art > > Art Campbell >art.campb...@gmail.com <mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com> > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, John Sgammato > mailto:jsgamm...@imprivata.com>> wrote: > > There is a more detailed presentation at > https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/ > The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23. > I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews. > > john > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com> > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>] On Behalf Of Shmuel > Wolfson > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM > To: Framers > Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication > > Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2: > http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/ > It looks nice. > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > Carrie Baker wrote: > > I looked at their announcement. > > What do you think they mean by > > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently > through a > > completely redesigned user experience." > > > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > > > > _ > > Message: 38 > > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > > From: "Yves Barbion" <mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com>> > > Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> > > Message-ID: > > > <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com > <mailto:2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi FrameUsers > > It's here: > > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > > > Cheers > > -- > > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker > Instructor > > www.scripto.nu <http://www.scripto.nu> ? skype: yves.barbion ? > T: +32 494 12 01 89 > > > _ > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgamm...@imprivata.com > <mailto:jsgamm...@imprivata.com>. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com> > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat > a.com <http://a.com> > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > <mailto:listad...@frameusers.com>. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com > <mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > <mailto:
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2: http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/ It looks nice. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Carrie Baker wrote: > I looked at their announcement. > What do you think they mean by > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a > completely redesigned user experience." > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > _ > Message: 38 > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > From: "Yves Barbion" > Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Message-ID: ><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Hi FrameUsers > It's here: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > Cheers > -- > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > _ > >
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
maybe there is some reverse psychology going on here: maybe they are trying to attract new users. Nobody likes to feel they are at the bottom of the class, which is what you are when you start out using a well-established app - so best to try something that is new to all. So the idea is to revolutionize the app so much so that now everybody becomes bottom of the class, and so now it will attract new users... :-) avi On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Carrie Baker wrote: > I looked at their announcement. > What do you think they mean by > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a > completely redesigned user experience." > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > _ > Message: 38 > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > From: "Yves Barbion" > Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Message-ID: > <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Hi FrameUsers > It's here: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > Cheers > -- > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > _ > > -- > Carrie Baker > carriebak at gmail.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as amakeler at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/amakeler%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
It will be a learning curve for experienced users. I've been working with this for a while now and I can tell you that it takes a while to get used to it. However, much like working with other tools, it's now a lot easier to configure the system for what I'm doing, rather than for what the application feels like presenting to me. It's been a long time coming, but it feels more like an Adobe tool. If you use things like Photoshop, or Acrobat, or any other major Adobe tool, you have a way to configure the interface to do what you want, rather than what the dev team decided. While the application ends up being pretty easy to work with, you will need to put time into learning. Think of a new car... If you had a car that was set up with all kinds of preset radio stations (and only AM) and with a cassette player in it, you think that what you have does all you need. However, when you get a new car and it has satellite radio and a built in MP3 player, you need to learn how to work the new settings. If the dash is digital and has several screens, you also need to learn not only the new tools, but the new interface. Add to that new features in the car and it can seem daunting. However, once you get the new car on the open road and you start to deal with either the daily commute, or you deal with long trips to the cottage, to the inlawa, or to the beach, you start to realize just how nice the new comforts are. To that end, it's worth the upgrade, and it's worth the extra work to learn the new approaches to working. Imagine then a FrameMaker world where you can optimize what you do for template design, for daily authoring, for a review process, for structured work, for book publishing, for editing, and for just about any 'normal' task you normally perform as part of your job. Imagine setting up the designers and toolbars where you want them for one environment, and then being able to toggle them to another. Forget about the day-to-day, hour-by-hour manual tasks that you perform and focus on the job. I can't imagine the amount of time I spend moving dialogs from one part of my screen to another simply to get different real estate to be the 'focus' of what I'm doing. Two monitors help, but I'm still trapped in a world of drag-and-drop modifications to do one task or another. So, the answer to the question of 'Does anyone know if this is a "good thing"' is a "yes" but a qualified one. It's a good thing IF you are willing to take the time to work through the learning curve. Once that's done though, then it's a much smoother ride and, like the new car, can make the small bumps seem smoother, the long trips a bit less tiring, and ultimately make the destination the focus point, not the individual issues that come up along the way. I hope that helps out. Bernard Bernard Aschwanden President Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carrie Baker Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:38 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication I looked at their announcement. What do you think they mean by "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a completely redesigned user experience." Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. _ Message: 38 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 From: "Yves Barbion" Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi FrameUsers It's here: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ Cheers -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 _ -- Carrie Baker carriebak at gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as bernard at publishingsmarter.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernard%40publishingsmar ter.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1902 - Release Date: 1/19/2009 8:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1904 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 7:49 AM
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
I looked at their announcement. What do you think they mean by "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a completely redesigned user experience." Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. _ Message: 38 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 From: "Yves Barbion" Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi FrameUsers It's here: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ Cheers -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 _ -- Carrie Baker carriebak at gmail.com
RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
It will be a learning curve for experienced users. I've been working with this for a while now and I can tell you that it takes a while to get used to it. However, much like working with other tools, it's now a lot easier to configure the system for what I'm doing, rather than for what the application feels like presenting to me. It's been a long time coming, but it feels more like an Adobe tool. If you use things like Photoshop, or Acrobat, or any other major Adobe tool, you have a way to configure the interface to do what you want, rather than what the dev team decided. While the application ends up being pretty easy to work with, you will need to put time into learning. Think of a new car... If you had a car that was set up with all kinds of preset radio stations (and only AM) and with a cassette player in it, you think that what you have does all you need. However, when you get a new car and it has satellite radio and a built in MP3 player, you need to learn how to work the new settings. If the dash is digital and has several screens, you also need to learn not only the new tools, but the new interface. Add to that new features in the car and it can seem daunting. However, once you get the new car on the open road and you start to deal with either the daily commute, or you deal with long trips to the cottage, to the inlawa, or to the beach, you start to realize just how nice the new comforts are. To that end, it's worth the upgrade, and it's worth the extra work to learn the new approaches to working. Imagine then a FrameMaker world where you can optimize what you do for template design, for daily authoring, for a review process, for structured work, for book publishing, for editing, and for just about any 'normal' task you normally perform as part of your job. Imagine setting up the designers and toolbars where you want them for one environment, and then being able to toggle them to another. Forget about the day-to-day, hour-by-hour manual tasks that you perform and focus on the job. I can't imagine the amount of time I spend moving dialogs from one part of my screen to another simply to get different real estate to be the 'focus' of what I'm doing. Two monitors help, but I'm still trapped in a world of drag-and-drop modifications to do one task or another. So, the answer to the question of 'Does anyone know if this is a "good thing"' is a "yes" but a qualified one. It's a good thing IF you are willing to take the time to work through the learning curve. Once that's done though, then it's a much smoother ride and, like the new car, can make the small bumps seem smoother, the long trips a bit less tiring, and ultimately make the destination the focus point, not the individual issues that come up along the way. I hope that helps out. Bernard Bernard Aschwanden President Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carrie Baker Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:38 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication I looked at their announcement. What do you think they mean by "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a completely redesigned user experience." Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. _ Message: 38 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 From: "Yves Barbion" Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi FrameUsers It's here: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ Cheers -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 _ -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as bern...@publishingsmarter.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernard%40publishingsmar ter.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1902 - Release Date: 1/19/2009 8:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
It means that the interface has been Adobe-ized, updated from the traditional FM look and feel. Pallets like Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. If you already know FM, your learning curve may last through two cups of coffee, if you drink slow. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, John Sgammato wrote: > There is a more detailed presentation at > https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/ > The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23. > I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews. > > john > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel > Wolfson > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM > To: Framers > Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication > > Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2: > http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/ > It looks nice. > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > Carrie Baker wrote: > > I looked at their announcement. > > What do you think they mean by > > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently > through a > > completely redesigned user experience." > > > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > > > _ > > Message: 38 > > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > > From: "Yves Barbion" > > Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > Message-ID: > ><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi FrameUsers > > It's here: > > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > > > Cheers > > -- > > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker > Instructor > > www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > > _ > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgammato at imprivata.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat > a.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Suite 2
Hi FrameUsers It's here: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ Cheers -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
There is a more detailed presentation at https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/ The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23. I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews. john -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM To: Framers Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2: http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/ It looks nice. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Carrie Baker wrote: > I looked at their announcement. > What do you think they mean by > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a > completely redesigned user experience." > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > _ > Message: 38 > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > From: "Yves Barbion" > Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Message-ID: ><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44a54 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Hi FrameUsers > It's here: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > Cheers > -- > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > _ > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgammato at imprivata.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat a.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
It means that the interface has been Adobe-ized, updated from the traditional FM look and feel. Pallets like Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. If you already know FM, your learning curve may last through two cups of coffee, if you drink slow. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, John Sgammato wrote: > There is a more detailed presentation at > https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/ > The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23. > I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews. > > john > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel > Wolfson > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM > To: Framers > Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication > > Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2: > http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/ > It looks nice. > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > Carrie Baker wrote: > > I looked at their announcement. > > What do you think they mean by > > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently > through a > > completely redesigned user experience." > > > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > > > _ > > Message: 38 > > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > > From: "Yves Barbion" > > Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Message-ID: > ><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi FrameUsers > > It's here: > > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > > > Cheers > > -- > > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker > Instructor > > www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > > _ > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgamm...@imprivata.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat > a.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
There is a more detailed presentation at https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/ The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23. I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews. john -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM To: Framers Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2: http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/ It looks nice. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Carrie Baker wrote: > I looked at their announcement. > What do you think they mean by > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a > completely redesigned user experience." > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > _ > Message: 38 > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > From: "Yves Barbion" > Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Message-ID: ><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Hi FrameUsers > It's here: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > Cheers > -- > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > _ > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgamm...@imprivata.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat a.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2: http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/ It looks nice. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Carrie Baker wrote: > I looked at their announcement. > What do you think they mean by > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a > completely redesigned user experience." > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > _ > Message: 38 > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > From: "Yves Barbion" > Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Message-ID: ><2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Hi FrameUsers > It's here: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > Cheers > -- > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > _ > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
maybe there is some reverse psychology going on here: maybe they are trying to attract new users. Nobody likes to feel they are at the bottom of the class, which is what you are when you start out using a well-established app - so best to try something that is new to all. So the idea is to revolutionize the app so much so that now everybody becomes bottom of the class, and so now it will attract new users... :-) avi On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Carrie Baker wrote: > I looked at their announcement. > What do you think they mean by > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a > completely redesigned user experience." > > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. > > _ > Message: 38 > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 > From: "Yves Barbion" > Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Message-ID: > <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Hi FrameUsers > It's here: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ > > Cheers > -- > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > _ > > -- > Carrie Baker > carrie...@gmail.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as amake...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/amakeler%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
I looked at their announcement. What do you think they mean by "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently through a completely redesigned user experience." Does anyone know if this is a "good thing". This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users. _ Message: 38 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100 From: "Yves Barbion" Subject: To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <2d78e7070901192326u174c65e8ie4d31f5b18d44...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi FrameUsers It's here: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ Cheers -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 _ -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Suite 2
Hi FrameUsers It's here: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ Cheers -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
