RE: Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

2011-07-07 Thread Gay Alson
Thanks to Richard Combs, Steve Johnson and Rick Quattro for helpful
insights.

We're all in agreement that the version-specific naming structure within
each book project is not a good thing -- I'm going to try to get our
department to go back to the old way we did it before someone (not I!)
got the bright idea to change it.

In the meantime, renaming the files from within the book window is the
way to go and the way I shall go, henceforth  ;~)

Thanks to you all, you're a super group!

~~Gay

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:30 AM
To: Gay Alson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
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Gay Alson wrote:
 
> I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
> forgotten an important step or concept...
> 
> Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
> Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
>5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
>5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
>5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
>5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm
> 
> Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work.
> But
> now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as
a
> starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
> however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm
that
> points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
> file...

You have to rename the files within the book window, and then FM
correctly updates all the links. While you're acknowledging the many
prompts that FM displays as you do this, you might reconsider your file
naming convention so you don't have to go through the same process for
5.7. :-) 

Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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Re: Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

2011-07-07 Thread Steve Johnson
If you rename a file, cross-references to that file will break. IMHO,
you shouldn't put the version number in a file name. There is no
reason to do that.

The best alternative is to put the new files, with the same names, in
a new directory and be happy. Otherwise you'll have to fix the
cross-references.

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Gay Alson  wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
> forgotten an important step or concept...
>
> Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
> Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
>       5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
>       5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
>       5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
>       5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm
>
> Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work. But
> now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as a
> starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
> however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm that
> points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
> file...
>
> I swear I have done this many times in the past and not experienced a
> problem...but today brain freeze has taken over.
>
> If anyone can straighten me out, I will certainly be grateful.
>
> TIA,
> ~~Gay
>
>
> _
> Gay Alson
> Senior Technical Writer
> Epicor Retail
> www.epicor.com
> Tel.: (514) 428-2116
> Fax: (514) 426-0824
> E-mail: gal...@epicor.com
> 2800 Trans Canada Highway, Pointe Claire QC H9R 1T1
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Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

2011-07-06 Thread Gay Alson
Thanks to Richard Combs, Steve Johnson and Rick Quattro for helpful
insights.

We're all in agreement that the version-specific naming structure within
each book project is not a good thing -- I'm going to try to get our
department to go back to the old way we did it before someone (not I!)
got the bright idea to change it.

In the meantime, renaming the files from within the book window is the
way to go and the way I shall go, henceforth  ;~)

Thanks to you all, you're a super group!

~~Gay

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:30 AM
To: Gay Alson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Beginning new project based on book & files from previous
project

Gay Alson wrote:

> I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
> forgotten an important step or concept...
> 
> Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
> Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
>5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
>5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
>5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
>5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm
> 
> Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work.
> But
> now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as
a
> starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
> however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm
that
> points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
> file...

You have to rename the files within the book window, and then FM
correctly updates all the links. While you're acknowledging the many
prompts that FM displays as you do this, you might reconsider your file
naming convention so you don't have to go through the same process for
5.7. :-) 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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303-903-6372
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Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

2011-07-06 Thread Steve Johnson
If you rename a file, cross-references to that file will break. IMHO,
you shouldn't put the version number in a file name. There is no
reason to do that.

The best alternative is to put the new files, with the same names, in
a new directory and be happy. Otherwise you'll have to fix the
cross-references.

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Gay Alson  wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
> forgotten an important step or concept...
>
> Book: ?5.5_SuperProduct.book
> Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
> ? ? ? 5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
> ? ? ? 5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
> ? ? ? 5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
> ? ? ? 5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm
>
> Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work. But
> now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as a
> starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
> however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm that
> points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
> file...
>
> I swear I have done this many times in the past and not experienced a
> problem...but today brain freeze has taken over.
>
> If anyone can straighten me out, I will certainly be grateful.
>
> TIA,
> ~~Gay
>
>
> _
> Gay Alson
> Senior Technical Writer
> Epicor Retail
> www.epicor.com
> Tel.: (514) 428-2116
> Fax: (514) 426-0824
> E-mail: galson at epicor.com
> 2800 Trans Canada Highway, Pointe Claire QC H9R 1T1
> 
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RE: Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

2011-07-06 Thread Combs, Richard
Gay Alson wrote:
 
> I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
> forgotten an important step or concept...
> 
> Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
> Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
>5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
>5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
>5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
>5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm
> 
> Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work.
> But
> now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as a
> starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
> however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm that
> points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
> file...

You have to rename the files within the book window, and then FM correctly 
updates all the links. While you're acknowledging the many prompts that FM 
displays as you do this, you might reconsider your file naming convention so 
you don't have to go through the same process for 5.7. :-) 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

2011-07-06 Thread Combs, Richard
Gay Alson wrote:

> I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
> forgotten an important step or concept...
> 
> Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
> Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
>5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
>5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
>5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
>5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm
> 
> Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work.
> But
> now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as a
> starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
> however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm that
> points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
> file...

You have to rename the files within the book window, and then FM correctly 
updates all the links. While you're acknowledging the many prompts that FM 
displays as you do this, you might reconsider your file naming convention so 
you don't have to go through the same process for 5.7. :-) 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
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303-903-6372
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Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

2011-07-06 Thread Gay Alson
Hi Framers,

I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
forgotten an important step or concept...

Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
   5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
   5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
   5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
   5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm

Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work. But
now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as a
starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm that
points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
file... 

I swear I have done this many times in the past and not experienced a
problem...but today brain freeze has taken over.

If anyone can straighten me out, I will certainly be grateful.

TIA,
~~Gay


_
Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: gal...@epicor.com
2800 Trans Canada Highway, Pointe Claire QC H9R 1T1


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Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

2011-07-05 Thread Gay Alson
Hi Framers,

I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
forgotten an important step or concept...

Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
   5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
   5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
   5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
   5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm

Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work. But
now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as a
starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm that
points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
file... 

I swear I have done this many times in the past and not experienced a
problem...but today brain freeze has taken over.

If anyone can straighten me out, I will certainly be grateful.

TIA,
~~Gay


_
Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com
2800 Trans Canada Highway, Pointe Claire QC H9R 1T1


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