Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-09 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Pearl

We had a corrupted file once where the problem was that somehow we'd screwed an 
imported text inset (the TOC). It was set to automatically update insets and 
couldn't, so crashed. We deleted the TOC file and the chapter opened okay. So 
if you're linking to any other files, not just graphics, try renaming them.

To repeat what everyone else has said, we have our graphics in a separate 
folder and reference them with no problems. You can always get the name of the 
referenced files out of FM.

Cheers, Rebecca

>>>  9/12/05 05:27 >>>
Hi Dominick,

I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
graphics.

I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 
try
> renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
> shouldopen the file and issue an error message.
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: Peter Gold
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
> to try
> to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold 
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> > Hi, Pearl:
> > 
> > It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> > 
> > Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> > keys in sequence:
> > 
> > Escape
> > lowercase o
> > uppercase H
> > 
> > Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully,
> > save it immediately to a new name.
> > 
> > At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> > >Hi Framers,
> > >
> > >FM 7.0p578
> > >Windows XP Professional
> > >512 MB RAM
> > >
> > >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
> it, FM
> 
> > >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 
> under 2.7 
> > >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> > that FM
> > >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> > >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter Gold
> > 
> 
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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Pearl

We had a corrupted file once where the problem was that somehow we'd screwed an 
imported text inset (the TOC). It was set to automatically update insets and 
couldn't, so crashed. We deleted the TOC file and the chapter opened okay. So 
if you're linking to any other files, not just graphics, try renaming them.

To repeat what everyone else has said, we have our graphics in a separate 
folder and reference them with no problems. You can always get the name of the 
referenced files out of FM.

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/12/05 05:27 >>>
Hi Dominick,

I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
graphics.

I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 
try
> renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
> shouldopen the file and issue an error message.
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:framers-
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> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: Peter Gold
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
> to try
> to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> > Hi, Pearl:
> > 
> > It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> > 
> > Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> > keys in sequence:
> > 
> > Escape
> > lowercase o
> > uppercase H
> > 
> > Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully,
> > save it immediately to a new name.
> > 
> > At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Hi Framers,
> > >
> > >FM 7.0p578
> > >Windows XP Professional
> > >512 MB RAM
> > >
> > >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
> it, FM
> 
> > >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 
> under 2.7 
> > >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> > that FM
> > >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> > >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter Gold
> > 
> 
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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Dona Mommsen
Hi Pearl,

I once had a problem with a corrupted file, and there the heroic open  
didn't help, but opening it while suppressing the automatic update of  
references.
> To open a document without updating references:
> 1.Choose File?> Open, and select the file you want to open.
> 2.Do one of the following:
> * (Windows) Control-click Open.

Also, feel free to send me the file privately, I'll try if I'm able to  
open it (using Frame on Mac).

I'm keeping my graphics in a separate directory and have absolutely no  
problems with that.

Good luck.

Dona

On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:24 AM, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:

> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to
> try to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold 
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
>
>> Hi, Pearl:
>>
>> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
>>
>> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease
>> these
>> keys in sequence:
>>
>> Escape
>> lowercase o
>> uppercase H
>>
>> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens
>> successfully, save it immediately to a new name.
>>
>> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>> Hi Framers,
>>>
>>> FM 7.0p578
>>> Windows XP Professional
>>> 512 MB RAM
>>>
>>> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
>>> it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
>>> little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
>> that FM
>>> does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
>>> opening only that file, but I get the same message.
>>
>>
>> --  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter Gold
>>
> ___peter at knowhowpro.com
> _
>>
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>>
>> http://www.knowhowpro.com
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>> 612.823.7113
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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenb...@nc.rr.com
Hi Dominick,

I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
graphics.

I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 
try
> renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
> shouldopen the file and issue an error message.
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: Peter Gold
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
> to try
> to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold 
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> > Hi, Pearl:
> > 
> > It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> > 
> > Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> > keys in sequence:
> > 
> > Escape
> > lowercase o
> > uppercase H
> > 
> > Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully,
> > save it immediately to a new name.
> > 
> > At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> > >Hi Framers,
> > >
> > >FM 7.0p578
> > >Windows XP Professional
> > >512 MB RAM
> > >
> > >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
> it, FM
> 
> > >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 
> under 2.7 
> > >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> > that FM
> > >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> > >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter Gold
> > 
> 
___peter at knowhowpro.com
> _
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> > http://www.knowhowpro.com
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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread DeFlorio, Dominick

True.  Fairly useless in this case, but since she sounded desperate, it
was worth a try...

Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:57 AM
To: DeFlorio, Dominick; pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note that
these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do a Save,
FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of the file with a
second extension (.backup) rather than marking it as an unused file that
the OS can reallocate. In other words, the "backup" file is always one
save behind the real working file, and the magnitude of the difference
depends on how frequently you remember to do manual saves. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services



Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Ridder, Fred
While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note that 
these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
"backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
you remember to do manual saves. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services



Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread DeFlorio, Dominick
If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, try
renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame should
open the file and issue an error message.


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
To: Peter Gold
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to try
to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

> Hi, Pearl:
> 
> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> 
> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease these 
> keys in sequence:
> 
> Escape
> lowercase o
> uppercase H
> 
> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens successfully,

> save it immediately to a new name.
> 
> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> >Hi Framers,
> >
> >FM 7.0p578
> >Windows XP Professional
> >512 MB RAM
> >
> >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM

> >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 
> >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> that FM
> >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Gold
> 
___peter at knowhowpro.com
_
> 
> KnowHow ProServices
> 
> http://www.knowhowpro.com
> 
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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenb...@nc.rr.com
Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to 
try to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

> Hi, Pearl:
> 
> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> 
> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> keys in sequence:
> 
> Escape
> lowercase o
> uppercase H
> 
> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully, save it immediately to a new name.
> 
> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> >Hi Framers,
> >
> >FM 7.0p578
> >Windows XP Professional
> >512 MB RAM
> >
> >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
> >it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
> >little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book 
> that FM
> >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
> >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Gold
> 
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_
> 
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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Donald M Rinderknecht
Has anyone else tried opening it for you on another machine?

Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch$

- Original Message -
From: "Ridder, Fred" 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:57 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note 
> that 
> these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
> a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
> the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
> as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
> "backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
> and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
> you remember to do manual saves. 
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenb...@nc.rr.com
Yes. Unfortunately, the backup is the same.

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:33 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
> 
> 
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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread John Posada
> I'd be interested to hear from those of you who 
> reference graphics about how hard it is (or isn't) 
> to keep track of the graphic files.

Not hard at all. First, I have a two or three letter prefix for each
book (HRP, Pub, DM, CPF, etc.). That prefix is included in the name
of every file and every graphic. All my files go in one one directory
and all my graphics go in a subdirectory off that file directory.

The vast majority of my screen shots are of web pages or parts of web
pages since I'm documenting a large HR portal. I name my graphics
with three elements; the project name, then the header title of the
screen, then the state of the screen. Use an underscore between
elements, never use spaces anywhere in the file name.

For instance, I have a project with the code HRP, then a GUI page
with the title "Login Pages", one showing a Login code window prior
to putting in the code and after the code is entered. Therefore, my
images have the following names:

HRP_LoginPages_BeforeLoginCode.gif
HRP_LoginPages_AfterLoginCode.gif

This my not work well for you, it does for me.

Different projects may require that I vary the naming conventions,
but the methodology is usualy the same.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread John Posada
> I'd be interested to hear from those of you who 
> reference graphics about how hard it is (or isn't) 
> to keep track of the graphic files.

Not hard at all. First, I have a two or three letter prefix for each
book (HRP, Pub, DM, CPF, etc.). That prefix is included in the name
of every file and every graphic. All my files go in one one directory
and all my graphics go in a subdirectory off that file directory.

The vast majority of my screen shots are of web pages or parts of web
pages since I'm documenting a large HR portal. I name my graphics
with three elements; the project name, then the header title of the
screen, then the state of the screen. Use an underscore between
elements, never use spaces anywhere in the file name.

For instance, I have a project with the code HRP, then a GUI page
with the title "Login Pages", one showing a Login code window prior
to putting in the code and after the code is entered. Therefore, my
images have the following names:

HRP_LoginPages_BeforeLoginCode.gif
HRP_LoginPages_AfterLoginCode.gif

This my not work well for you, it does for me.

Different projects may require that I vary the naming conventions,
but the methodology is usualy the same.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"Well, you have to know these things
 when you're king, you know." -
  --King Arthur of Camelot.



Re: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Dona Mommsen

Hi Pearl,

I once had a problem with a corrupted file, and there the heroic open  
didn't help, but opening it while suppressing the automatic update of  
references.

To open a document without updating references:
1.  Choose FileĀ > Open, and select the file you want to open.
2.  Do one of the following:
*   (Windows) Control-click Open.


Also, feel free to send me the file privately, I'll try if I'm able to  
open it (using Frame on Mac).


I'm keeping my graphics in a separate directory and have absolutely no  
problems with that.


Good luck.

Dona

On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to
try to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again.

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File


Hi, Pearl:

It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.

Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease
these
keys in sequence:

Escape
lowercase o
uppercase H

Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens
successfully, save it immediately to a new name.

At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book

that FM

does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
opening only that file, but I get the same message.



--  


Regards,

Peter Gold


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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread DeFlorio, Dominick
If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services


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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenb...@nc.rr.com
Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a 
little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book that FM 
does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
opening only that file, but I get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the 
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could 
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried 
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all 
the files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
to a co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services





Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Pearl:

It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.

Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease these 
keys in sequence:

Escape
lowercase o
uppercase H

Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
successfully, save it immediately to a new name.

At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
>Hi Framers,
>
>FM 7.0p578
>Windows XP Professional
>512 MB RAM
>
>I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
>it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
>little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book that FM
>does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
>opening only that file, but I get the same message.


-- 

Regards,

Peter Gold
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knowhowpro.com_

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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenberg
Hi Dominick,

I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
graphics.

I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 
try
> renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
> shouldopen the file and issue an error message.
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:framers-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: Peter Gold
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
> to try
> to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 
> 
> ----- Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> > Hi, Pearl:
> > 
> > It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> > 
> > Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> > keys in sequence:
> > 
> > Escape
> > lowercase o
> > uppercase H
> > 
> > Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully,
> > save it immediately to a new name.
> > 
> > At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Hi Framers,
> > >
> > >FM 7.0p578
> > >Windows XP Professional
> > >512 MB RAM
> > >
> > >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
> it, FM
> 
> > >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 
> under 2.7 
> > >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> > that FM
> > >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> > >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter Gold
> > 
> 
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> > 
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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Donald M Rinderknecht
Has anyone else tried opening it for you on another machine?

Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch$

- Original Message -
From: "Ridder, Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:57 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note 
> that 
> these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
> a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
> the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
> as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
> "backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
> and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
> you remember to do manual saves. 
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:framers-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:framers-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
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RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread DeFlorio, Dominick
 
True.  Fairly useless in this case, but since she sounded desperate, it
was worth a try...

Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:57 AM
To: DeFlorio, Dominick; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note that
these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do a Save,
FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of the file with a
second extension (.backup) rather than marking it as an unused file that
the OS can reallocate. In other words, the "backup" file is always one
save behind the real working file, and the magnitude of the difference
depends on how frequently you remember to do manual saves. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services
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RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Ridder, Fred
While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note that 
these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
"backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
you remember to do manual saves. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services
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RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread DeFlorio, Dominick
If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, try
renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame should
open the file and issue an error message.


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to try
to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

> Hi, Pearl:
> 
> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> 
> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease these 
> keys in sequence:
> 
> Escape
> lowercase o
> uppercase H
> 
> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens successfully,

> save it immediately to a new name.
> 
> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Hi Framers,
> >
> >FM 7.0p578
> >Windows XP Professional
> >512 MB RAM
> >
> >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM

> >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 
> >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> that FM
> >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Gold
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenberg
Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to 
try to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

> Hi, Pearl:
> 
> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> 
> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> keys in sequence:
> 
> Escape
> lowercase o
> uppercase H
> 
> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully, save it immediately to a new name.
> 
> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Hi Framers,
> >
> >FM 7.0p578
> >Windows XP Professional
> >512 MB RAM
> >
> >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
> >it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
> >little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book 
> that FM
> >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
> >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Gold
> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> KnowHow ProServices
> 
> http://www.knowhowpro.com
> 
> 612.823.7113
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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenberg
Yes. Unfortunately, the backup is the same.

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:33 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
> 
> 
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Re: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Peter Gold

Hi, Pearl:

It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.

Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease these 
keys in sequence:


Escape
lowercase o
uppercase H

Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
successfully, save it immediately to a new name.


At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book that FM
does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
opening only that file, but I get the same message.



--

Regards,

Peter Gold
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

KnowHow ProServices

http://www.knowhowpro.com

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RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread DeFlorio, Dominick
If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services


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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenberg
Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a 
little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book that FM 
does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
opening only that file, but I get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the 
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could 
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried 
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all 
the files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
to a co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services


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