Re: Change bars in Framemaker
At 10:10 -0400 15/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My framehating coworker requested that I send this question in. We use automatic change bars every time we work on our files. Big ones, 10 pt thickness, on the left side of the column. When my coworker works on a file, it will add change bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter titles. This is most likely due to FrameMaker updating cross-references when a file is opened. He gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea? It depends on what you want to achieve. Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend! What was the question? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Change bars in Framemaker
My framehating coworker requested that I send this question in. We use automatic change bars every time we work on our files. Big ones, 10 pt thickness, on the left side of the column. When my coworker works on a file, it will add change bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter titles. He gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea? Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend! Becky Frasure ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Change bars in Framemaker
Hi Becky, If you're going to use automatic change bars, it's important to understand what is marked as a change when this command is activated. For example, updated cross-references are marked as a change; updated graphics that are imported by reference are not marked as a change; updated graphics that are imported with a different file name are marked as a change; etc. If you're experiencing undesirable results, mark the changes manually. It takes a little longer, but the peace of mind is worth it. Also, the compare document feature mentioned in a previous e-mail doesn't do a good job identifying changes in tables or graphics. It also introduces conditional text to the document, which adds a layer of complexity to the document. It's a useful tool, but probably not the best solution for your situation. Good luck, Dave Bills - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Change bars in Framemaker My framehating coworker requested that I send this question in. We use automatic change bars every time we work on our files. Big ones, 10 pt thickness, on the left side of the column. When my coworker works on a file, it will add change bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter titles. He gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea? Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend! Becky Frasure ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Change bars in Framemaker
David Bills wrote: Also, the compare document feature mentioned in a previous e-mail doesn't do a good job identifying changes in tables or graphics. It also introduces conditional text to the document, which adds a layer of complexity to the document. It's a useful tool, but probably not the best solution for your situation. In my limited experience, it marks the whole table if more than a certain percentage of it changed; how big a deal that is depends on your docs, I suppose. I don't recall any oddities with graphics, but maybe they just didn't impact me enough to make an impression. The conditional text is entirely optional. To see only change bars: 1) In the Compare Documents dialog, click Options. 2) In the Comparison Options dialog, set Mark Insertions With to Nothing. 3) Set Mark Deletions With to Replacement Text and make sure the replacement text box is empty. Happy weekend! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Change bars in Framemaker
My framehating coworker requested that I send this question in. We use automatic change bars every time we work on our files. Big ones, 10 pt thickness, on the left side of the column. When my coworker works on a file, it will add change bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter titles. He gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea? Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend! Becky Frasure
Change bars in Framemaker
At 10:10 -0400 15/6/07, Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov wrote: >My framehating coworker requested that I send this question in. We use >automatic change bars every time we work on our files. Big ones, 10 pt >thickness, on the left side of the column. When my coworker works on a >file, it will add change bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter >titles. This is most likely due to FrameMaker updating cross-references when a file is opened. >He gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having >automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea? It depends on what you want to achieve. >Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend! What was the question? -- Steve
Change bars in Framemaker
Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov wrote: > My framehating coworker requested that I send this question > in. We use automatic change bars every time we work on our > files. Big ones, 10 pt thickness, on the left side of the Why?? > column. When my coworker works on a file, it will add change > bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter titles. He > gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having > automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea? Depends on your goal -- if you want to frustrate Frame-hating co-workers, it seems to be working. ;-) In the absence of such a goal, though, I'd say it's a really bad idea. I can't imagine working that way. Even if I needed to mark changes as I worked, I'd do it manually so that only substantive changes get marked, not automatically updated things like xrefs and trivial edits like typos. A much better way to track changes, IMO, is to use FM's Compare Documents function (File > Utilities > Compare Documents; check the manual or help for info about the options available). Run the comparison after you're finished updating the document, comparing it to the previous version -- you did save the previous version before starting to make changes, right? > Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend! Likewise! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Change bars in Framemaker
Hi Becky, If you're going to use automatic change bars, it's important to understand what is marked as a change when this command is activated. For example, updated cross-references are marked as a change; updated graphics that are imported by reference are not marked as a change; updated graphics that are imported with a different file name are marked as a change; etc. If you're experiencing undesirable results, mark the changes manually. It takes a little longer, but the peace of mind is worth it. Also, the compare document feature mentioned in a previous e-mail doesn't do a good job identifying changes in tables or graphics. It also introduces conditional text to the document, which adds a layer of complexity to the document. It's a useful tool, but probably not the best solution for your situation. Good luck, Dave Bills - Original Message - From: <rebecca.l.fras...@aphis.usda.gov> To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Change bars in Framemaker > My framehating coworker requested that I send this question in. We use > automatic change bars every time we work on our files. Big ones, 10 pt > thickness, on the left side of the column. When my coworker works on a > file, it will add change bars in areas he hasn't touched, such as chapter > titles. He gets very frustrated over it. And by the way, is having > automatic change bars turned on all the time a good idea? > > Thanks for any answers, and have a pleasant weekend! > > > Becky Frasure > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dmbills at cfl.rr.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dmbills%40cfl.rr.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Change bars in Framemaker
David Bills wrote: > Also, the compare document feature mentioned in a previous > e-mail doesn't do a good job identifying changes in tables or > graphics. It also introduces conditional text to the > document, which adds a layer of complexity to the document. > It's a useful tool, but probably not the best solution for > your situation. In my limited experience, it marks the whole table if more than a certain percentage of it changed; how big a deal that is depends on your docs, I suppose. I don't recall any oddities with graphics, but maybe they just didn't impact me enough to make an impression. The conditional text is entirely optional. To see only change bars: 1) In the Compare Documents dialog, click Options. 2) In the Comparison Options dialog, set Mark Insertions With to Nothing. 3) Set Mark Deletions With to Replacement Text and make sure the replacement text box is empty. Happy weekend! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
