Changing the Figure Caption location
Hello all. I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not PRO). In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts Figure n under the graphic (with n being the auto number) each time we insert a figure table. In the print guide, it looks normal to have the figure caption under the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Yvonne Mills ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Changing the Figure Caption location
OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not PRO). In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts Figure n under the graphic (with n being the auto number) each time we insert a figure table. In the print guide, it looks normal to have the figure caption under the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Yvonne Mills ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Changing the Figure Caption location
Tried the first one. There is No Title. Checked the third one, None. As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows. I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table designer except for the ruling/shading selections. Thanks, Yvonne Mills Technical Writer 2 540-378-1398 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not PRO). In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts Figure n under the graphic (with n being the auto number) each time we insert a figure table. In the print guide, it looks normal to have the figure caption under the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Yvonne Mills ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Changing the Figure Caption location
Is it possible that the figure title has been put in a footing row? Do you have the ViewBorders option turned on? If so, do you see a dotted box surrounding the figure title? That dotted border would indicate that the paragraph is inside some *some* sort of table cell. And if that's the case, you'll need to select just the contents rather than the whole cell (or row) when you attempt to move the title. Then once you have the title where you want it (and if you have used a named style for the figure tables, my personal suggestion would be to use the Table Title frame since you globally relocate all the titles from below the figures to above them just before you do your HTML conversion), you can delete the empty table row you left behind. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yvonne Mills Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:40 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location Tried the first one. There is No Title. Checked the third one, None. As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows. I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table designer except for the ruling/shading selections. Thanks, Yvonne Mills Technical Writer 2 540-378-1398 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not PRO). In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts Figure n under the graphic (with n being the auto number) each time we insert a figure table. In the print guide, it looks normal to have the figure caption under the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Yvonne Mills ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Changing the Figure Caption location
Yes, it is a footing row. I found this when I attempted to delete the figure caption. I got a message Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows. So, I see one alternative: change the Table Title to Above and add the figure caption there, and change the paragraph type in the footing row to another paragraph type (without any autonumber, such as Anchor or Body). This is doable, but cumbersome. I was hoping for an easier/automatic way. Thanks, Yvonne Mills -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:55 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location Is it possible that the figure title has been put in a footing row? Do you have the ViewBorders option turned on? If so, do you see a dotted box surrounding the figure title? That dotted border would indicate that the paragraph is inside some *some* sort of table cell. And if that's the case, you'll need to select just the contents rather than the whole cell (or row) when you attempt to move the title. Then once you have the title where you want it (and if you have used a named style for the figure tables, my personal suggestion would be to use the Table Title frame since you globally relocate all the titles from below the figures to above them just before you do your HTML conversion), you can delete the empty table row you left behind. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yvonne Mills Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:40 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location Tried the first one. There is No Title. Checked the third one, None. As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows. I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table designer except for the ruling/shading selections. Thanks, Yvonne Mills Technical Writer 2 540-378-1398 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not PRO). In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts Figure n under the graphic (with n being the auto number) each time we insert a figure table. In the print guide, it looks normal to have the figure caption under the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Yvonne Mills ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Changing the Figure Caption location
OK, at least you know what to do now. You can mostly automate the conversion of the footing row to a body with Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plugin (www.frameexpert.com). Then if the figure caption is a unique tag... copy an empty anchor or body paragraph to the clipboard, search for the figure caption tag and replace it with the contents of the clipboard. Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is a footing row. I found this when I attempted to delete the figure caption. I got a message Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows. So, I see one alternative: change the Table Title to Above and add the figure caption there, and change the paragraph type in the footing row to another paragraph type (without any autonumber, such as Anchor or Body). This is doable, but cumbersome. I was hoping for an easier/automatic way. Thanks, Yvonne Mills -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:55 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location Is it possible that the figure title has been put in a footing row? Do you have the ViewBorders option turned on? If so, do you see a dotted box surrounding the figure title? That dotted border would indicate that the paragraph is inside some *some* sort of table cell. And if that's the case, you'll need to select just the contents rather than the whole cell (or row) when you attempt to move the title. Then once you have the title where you want it (and if you have used a named style for the figure tables, my personal suggestion would be to use the Table Title frame since you globally relocate all the titles from below the figures to above them just before you do your HTML conversion), you can delete the empty table row you left behind. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yvonne Mills Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:40 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location Tried the first one. There is No Title. Checked the third one, None. As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows. I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table designer except for the ruling/shading selections. Thanks, Yvonne Mills Technical Writer 2 540-378-1398 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not PRO). In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts Figure n under the graphic (with n being the auto number) each time we insert a figure table. In the print guide, it looks normal to have the figure caption under the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Yvonne Mills ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send
Changing the Figure Caption location
Hello all. I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not PRO). In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts "Figure n" under the graphic (with "n" being the auto number) each time we insert a figure table. In the print guide, it looks "normal" to have the figure caption under the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Yvonne Mills
Changing the Figure Caption location
OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills wrote: > > Hello all. > > I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's > Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not > PRO). > > In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts "Figure > n" under the graphic (with "n" being the auto number) each time we > insert a figure table. > > In the print guide, it looks "normal" to have the figure caption under > the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. > When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the > graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not > the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like > to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. > > I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the > archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, > although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move > the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was > _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference > pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Regards, > Yvonne Mills > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Changing the Figure Caption location
Tried the first one. There is No Title. Checked the third one, None. As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying "Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows." I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table designer except for the ruling/shading selections. Thanks, Yvonne Mills Technical Writer 2 540-378-1398 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills wrote: > > Hello all. > > I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's > Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not > PRO). > > In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts "Figure > n" under the graphic (with "n" being the auto number) each time we > insert a figure table. > > In the print guide, it looks "normal" to have the figure caption under > the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. > When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the > graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not > the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like > to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. > > I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the > archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, > although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move > the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was > _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference > pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Regards, > Yvonne Mills > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail .com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Changing the Figure Caption location
Is it possible that the figure title has been put in a footing row? Do you have the View>Borders option turned on? If so, do you see a dotted box surrounding the figure title? That dotted border would indicate that the paragraph is inside some *some* sort of table cell. And if that's the case, you'll need to select just the contents rather than the whole cell (or row) when you attempt to move the title. Then once you have the title where you want it (and if you have used a named style for the figure tables, my personal suggestion would be to use the Table Title frame since you globally relocate all the titles from below the figures to above them just before you do your HTML conversion), you can delete the empty table row you left behind. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yvonne Mills Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:40 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location Tried the first one. There is No Title. Checked the third one, None. As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying "Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows." I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table designer except for the ruling/shading selections. Thanks, Yvonne Mills Technical Writer 2 540-378-1398 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills wrote: > > Hello all. > > I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's > Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not > PRO). > > In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts "Figure > n" under the graphic (with "n" being the auto number) each time we > insert a figure table. > > In the print guide, it looks "normal" to have the figure caption under > the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. > When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the > graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not > the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like > to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. > > I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the > archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, > although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move > the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was > _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference > pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Regards, > Yvonne Mills
Changing the Figure Caption location
Yes, it is a footing row. I found this when I attempted to delete the figure caption. I got a message "Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows." So, I see one alternative: change the Table Title to "Above" and add the figure caption there, and change the paragraph type in the footing row to another paragraph type (without any autonumber, such as Anchor or Body). This is doable, but cumbersome. I was hoping for an easier/automatic way. Thanks, Yvonne Mills -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:55 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location Is it possible that the figure title has been put in a footing row? Do you have the View>Borders option turned on? If so, do you see a dotted box surrounding the figure title? That dotted border would indicate that the paragraph is inside some *some* sort of table cell. And if that's the case, you'll need to select just the contents rather than the whole cell (or row) when you attempt to move the title. Then once you have the title where you want it (and if you have used a named style for the figure tables, my personal suggestion would be to use the Table Title frame since you globally relocate all the titles from below the figures to above them just before you do your HTML conversion), you can delete the empty table row you left behind. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yvonne Mills Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:40 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location Tried the first one. There is No Title. Checked the third one, None. As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying "Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing rows." I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table designer except for the ruling/shading selections. Thanks, Yvonne Mills Technical Writer 2 540-378-1398 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM To: Yvonne Mills Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location OK, three thoughts: If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, the above/below setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. Ctrl-t, then Title Position. If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to handle the title. You should be able to just select it and move it... If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever paragraph tag you're using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference page... In that para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame above or below? Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills wrote: > > Hello all. > > I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's > Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, not > PRO). > > In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts "Figure > n" under the graphic (with "n" being the auto number) each time we > insert a figure table. > > In the print guide, it looks "normal" to have the figure caption under > the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem right. > When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the > graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, not > the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would like > to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. > > I vaguely remember this being discussed before. I tried to search the > archives, but didn't have much luck. I'm sure it's something easy, > although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply move > the table title from below the table to above, but found that there was > _no_ table title. I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference > pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Regards, > Yvonne Mills
Changing the Figure Caption location
OK, at least you know what to do now. You can mostly automate the conversion of the footing row to a body with Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plugin (www.frameexpert.com). Then if the figure caption is a unique tag... copy an empty anchor or body paragraph to the clipboard, search for the figure caption tag and replace it with the contents of the clipboard. Art On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills wrote: > Yes, it is a footing row. I found this when I attempted to delete the > figure caption. I got a message "Cannot remove all body rows from a > table that has heading or footing rows." So, I see one alternative: > change the Table Title to "Above" and add the figure caption there, and > change the paragraph type in the footing row to another paragraph type > (without any autonumber, such as Anchor or Body). > > This is doable, but cumbersome. I was hoping for an easier/automatic > way. > > Thanks, > Yvonne Mills > > -Original Message- > From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.ridder at intel.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:55 PM > To: Yvonne Mills > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location > > Is it possible that the figure title has been put in a footing row? > Do you have the View>Borders option turned on? If so, do you > see a dotted box surrounding the figure title? That dotted border > would indicate that the paragraph is inside some *some* sort of > table cell. And if that's the case, you'll need to select just the > contents rather than the whole cell (or row) when you attempt > to move the title. Then once you have the title where you want > it (and if you have used a named style for the figure tables, my > personal suggestion would be to use the Table Title frame since > you globally relocate all the titles from below the figures to above > them just before you do your HTML conversion), you can delete > the empty table row you left behind. > > My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. > Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) > Intel > Parsippany, NJ > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On > Behalf Of Yvonne Mills > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:40 PM > To: Art Campbell > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location > > Tried the first one. There is No Title. > Checked the third one, None. > As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying > "Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing > rows." I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table > designer except for the ruling/shading selections. > > Thanks, > Yvonne Mills > Technical Writer 2 > 540-378-1398 > > > -Original Message- > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM > To: Yvonne Mills > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location > > OK, three thoughts: > > If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title, > the above/below > setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab. > Ctrl-t, then > Title Position. > > If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to > handle the title. > You should be able to just select it and move it... > > If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever > paragraph tag you're > using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference > page... In that > para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame > above or below? > > Art > > On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills wrote: > > > > Hello all. > > > > I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's > > Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version, > not > > PRO). > > > > In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts "Figure > > n" under the graphic (with "n" being the auto number) each time we > > insert a figure table. > > > > In the print guide, it looks "normal" to have the figure caption under > > the graphic. However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem > right. > > When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the > > graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption, > not > > the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would > like > > to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic. > > > &
