Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Georg Eck]

Hi Robert,

 

if you like to change the character overrides, there is 

Finalyser  Rename Format Names by Configuration

 

More information, please see the online-help:

http://finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/Formate_umbenennen.xml.16.1.html

 

BTW: To find Paragraph overrides as list take the feature: List of paragraph 
overrides

 

-  GEorg



 

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Your Question:



Here's a tedious chore: somebody apparently formatted an entire chapter with 
the Emphasis (italic) tag, and then used Format  Font  Style  Plain to 
suppress it, so everything that should be plain text has a character format 
override. There are hundreds of such strings.

Find, Default ¶ Font, Find, Default ¶ Font, Find, Default ¶ Font ...

 

Too bad Find/Change isn't flexible enough to find the combination of Emphasis 
tag and Plain style and replace Emphasis with Default ¶ Font.

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Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Georg Eck]

Hi Robert,



if you like to change the character overrides, there is 

Finalyser > Rename Format Names by Configuration



More information, please see the online-help:

http://finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/Formate_umbenennen.xml.16.1.html



BTW: To find Paragraph overrides as list take the feature: List of paragraph 
overrides



-  GEorg





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Your Question:



Here's a tedious chore: somebody apparently formatted an entire chapter with 
the Emphasis (italic) tag, and then used Format > Font > Style > Plain to 
suppress it, so everything that should be plain text has a character format 
override. There are hundreds of such strings.

Find, Default ? Font, Find, Default ? Font, Find, Default ? Font ...



Too bad Find/Change isn't flexible enough to find the combination of Emphasis 
tag and Plain style and replace Emphasis with Default ? Font.

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Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

On my system it only appears if I switch to structured mode. FM10,
Windows 7 64-bit. I guess I'll call Adobe support.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
 Create and Apply Formats appears in both unstructured and structured modes.
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Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

I see, the command appears only when the focus is on an open .fm file.
I guess you can't do a whole book at once. Bad UI design that when the
focus is on a book file the command disappears from the menu instead
of appearing as disabled.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 On my system it only appears if I switch to structured mode. FM10,
 Windows 7 64-bit. I guess I'll call Adobe support.

 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
 Create and Apply Formats appears in both unstructured and structured modes.
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Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

On my system it only appears if I switch to structured mode. FM10,
Windows 7 64-bit. I guess I'll call Adobe support.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> Create and Apply Formats appears in both unstructured and structured modes.

Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

I see, the command appears only when the focus is on an open .fm file.
I guess you can't do a whole book at once. Bad UI design that when the
focus is on a book file the command disappears from the menu instead
of appearing as disabled.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
> On my system it only appears if I switch to structured mode. FM10,
> Windows 7 64-bit. I guess I'll call Adobe support.
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
>> Create and Apply Formats appears in both unstructured and structured modes.

RE: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Craig Ede]

I commented the other day on how to do a file scrub of formats that would
work well in your situation using the File  Utilities  Create and Apply
formats. Didn't see it get delivered, but framers is often odd about how
long it takes for stuff from me to get delivered, if ever, so maybe it'll
show up later.

This would create a new format, samename1, that would allow you to reformat
it everywhere in the file by redefining the override out of existence.

Good luck.

Craig

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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 3:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

Here's a tedious chore: somebody apparently formatted an entire chapter with
the Emphasis (italic) tag, and then used Format  Font  Style  Plain to
suppress it, so everything that should be plain text has a character format
override. There are hundreds of such strings.
Find, Default ¶ Font, Find, Default ¶ Font, Find, Default ¶ Font ...

Too bad Find/Change isn't flexible enough to find the combination of
Emphasis tag and Plain style and replace Emphasis with Default ¶ Font.


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RE: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Craig Ede]

But removing character overrides doesn't convert overrides of bold text from
the Text Formatting bar to the character tag Bold.

You can always do the File  Utilities  Create and Apply formats dance to
create tags for all the formatted text and at the same time create new ones
for overrides that don't match them. If they are slightly different from
Bold they will be flagged as Bold1, Bold2, etc.

I scrub files this way:

1 File  Utilities  Create and apply formats.
2 Look in the catalog for Char tags like Bold1,Bold2, etc. and then search
and replace them with appropriate tag of a new tag with a more descriptive
name. The ChrFmt, ChrFmt1, etc. are the most fun to do this with. 
3 Delete contents of both catalogs completely.
4 Create and Apply formats again.
This gives a clean set of char tags.
5 Repeat step 2 on the paragraph catalog tags and reduce or rename the
entries as appropriate.
6 Delete contents of paragraph catalog.
7 Create and Apply Formats again.

Voila!

I wish the folks who send the hoarder house documents I work on sometimes
(full of all kinds of junk to trip over as you navigate the documents),
would do this so I could more easily work with them. But they are
controlled documents and can't be fixed, it seems. I call them
out-of-control documents.

Craig

-Original Message-

If you want to get rid of overrides en masse (and indiscriminately), you can
import formats from the current document into itself, selecting Remove Other
Format/Layout Overrides.  (No Undo; back up files first!)

There are also inexpensive plug-ins from Silicon Prairie that will remove
char/pgf overrides file- or book-wide.

s.

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Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

Create and Apply Formats is on the menu only in structured mode. This
book is unstructured.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I commented the other day on how to do a file scrub of formats that would
 work well in your situation using the File  Utilities  Create and Apply
 formats. Didn't see it get delivered, but framers is often odd about how
 long it takes for stuff from me to get delivered, if ever, so maybe it'll
 show up later.

 This would create a new format, samename1, that would allow you to reformat
 it everywhere in the file by redefining the override out of existence.
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RE: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Rick Quatro]

Create and Apply Formats appears in both unstructured and structured modes.
The feature isn't something you would normally use with structured
FrameMaker anyway.

Rick

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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:41 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

Create and Apply Formats is on the menu only in structured mode. This book
is unstructured.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I commented the other day on how to do a file scrub of formats that 
 would work well in your situation using the File  Utilities  Create 
 and Apply formats. Didn't see it get delivered, but framers is often 
 odd about how long it takes for stuff from me to get delivered, if 
 ever, so maybe it'll show up later.

 This would create a new format, samename1, that would allow you to 
 reformat it everywhere in the file by redefining the override out of
existence.
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Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Craig Ede]

I commented the other day on how to do a file scrub of formats that would
work well in your situation using the File > Utilities > Create and Apply
formats. Didn't see it get delivered, but framers is often odd about how
long it takes for stuff from me to get delivered, if ever, so maybe it'll
show up later.

This would create a new format, samename1, that would allow you to reformat
it everywhere in the file by redefining the override out of existence.

Good luck.

Craig

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 3:29 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

Here's a tedious chore: somebody apparently formatted an entire chapter with
the Emphasis (italic) tag, and then used Format > Font > Style > Plain to
suppress it, so everything that should be plain text has a character format
override. There are hundreds of such strings.
Find, Default ? Font, Find, Default ? Font, Find, Default ? Font ...

Too bad Find/Change isn't flexible enough to find the combination of
Emphasis tag and Plain style and replace Emphasis with Default ? Font.

Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Craig Ede]

But removing character overrides doesn't convert overrides of bold text from
the Text Formatting bar to the character tag Bold.

You can always do the File > Utilities > Create and Apply formats dance to
create tags for all the formatted text and at the same time create new ones
for overrides that don't match them. If they are slightly different from
Bold they will be flagged as Bold1, Bold2, etc.

I scrub files this way:

1 File > Utilities > Create and apply formats.
2 Look in the catalog for Char tags like Bold1,Bold2, etc. and then search
and replace them with appropriate tag of a new tag with a more descriptive
name. The ChrFmt, ChrFmt1, etc. are the most fun to do this with. 
3 Delete contents of both catalogs completely.
4 Create and Apply formats again.
This gives a clean set of char tags.
5 Repeat step 2 on the paragraph catalog tags and reduce or rename the
entries as appropriate.
6 Delete contents of paragraph catalog.
7 Create and Apply Formats again.

Voila!

I wish the folks who send the "hoarder house" documents I work on sometimes
(full of all kinds of junk to trip over as you navigate the documents),
would do this so I could more easily work with them. But they are
"controlled documents" and can't be fixed, it seems. I call them
"out-of-control documents".

Craig

-Original Message-

If you want to get rid of overrides en masse (and indiscriminately), you can
import formats from the current document into itself, selecting Remove Other
Format/Layout Overrides.  (No Undo; back up files first!)

There are also inexpensive plug-ins from Silicon Prairie that will remove
char/pgf overrides file- or book-wide.

s.

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

Create and Apply Formats is on the menu only in structured mode. This
book is unstructured.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:
> I commented the other day on how to do a file scrub of formats that would
> work well in your situation using the File > Utilities > Create and Apply
> formats. Didn't see it get delivered, but framers is often odd about how
> long it takes for stuff from me to get delivered, if ever, so maybe it'll
> show up later.
>
> This would create a new format, samename1, that would allow you to reformat
> it everywhere in the file by redefining the override out of existence.

Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Rick Quatro]

Create and Apply Formats appears in both unstructured and structured modes.
The feature isn't something you would normally use with structured
FrameMaker anyway.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com



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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:41 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

Create and Apply Formats is on the menu only in structured mode. This book
is unstructured.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:
> I commented the other day on how to do a file scrub of formats that 
> would work well in your situation using the File > Utilities > Create 
> and Apply formats. Didn't see it get delivered, but framers is often 
> odd about how long it takes for stuff from me to get delivered, if 
> ever, so maybe it'll show up later.
>
> This would create a new format, samename1, that would allow you to 
> reformat it everywhere in the file by redefining the override out of
existence.
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Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

Here's a tedious chore: somebody apparently formatted an entire
chapter with the Emphasis (italic) tag, and then used Format  Font 
Style  Plain to suppress it, so everything that should be plain text
has a character format override. There are hundreds of such strings.
Find, Default ¶ Font, Find, Default ¶ Font, Find, Default ¶ Font ...

Too bad Find/Change isn't flexible enough to find the combination of
Emphasis tag and Plain style and replace Emphasis with Default ¶ Font.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 Yes, but I'm cleaning up a 1000-page doc that has been updated by
 many hands over the years. I need to look at each mistake and decide
 what correct tags are, if any. Some of the mistakes are pretty
 creative, e.g. somebody had a habit of accidentally formatting whole
 paragraph with character tags and then using overrides to get it back
 to normal. ...
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Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

Here's a tedious chore: somebody apparently formatted an entire
chapter with the Emphasis (italic) tag, and then used Format > Font >
Style > Plain to suppress it, so everything that should be plain text
has a character format override. There are hundreds of such strings.
Find, Default ? Font, Find, Default ? Font, Find, Default ? Font ...

Too bad Find/Change isn't flexible enough to find the combination of
Emphasis tag and Plain style and replace Emphasis with Default ? Font.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
> Yes, but I'm cleaning up a >1000-page doc that has been updated by
> many hands over the years. I need to look at each mistake and decide
> what correct tags are, if any. Some of the mistakes are pretty
> creative, e.g. somebody had a habit of accidentally formatting whole
> paragraph with character tags and then using overrides to get it back
> to normal. ...

Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

Thanks to Craig Ede for pointing me to the new FM10 Find/Change
Character Format Override feature.

It's pretty crude. You can't specify a specific character format
override to search for, the way you can when simply searching for
character formats, so you can't find Italic or Bold overrides.

It would be more consistent with other entries on the Find drop-down
item if it were called Any Character Format Override.

As is, the only use I can see for it would be to go through manually
and fix each override individually.

Who does Adobe talk to when designing these features?
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Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Stuart Rogers]

On 07/06/2012 4:47 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

Thanks to Craig Ede for pointing me to the new FM10 Find/Change
Character Format Override feature.

It's pretty crude. You can't specify a specific character format
override to search for, the way you can when simply searching for
character formats, so you can't find Italic or Bold overrides.

It would be more consistent with other entries on the Find drop-down
item if it were called Any Character Format Override.

As is, the only use I can see for it would be to go through manually
and fix each override individually.



If you want to get rid of overrides en masse (and indiscriminately), you 
can import formats from the current document into itself, selecting 
Remove Other Format/Layout Overrides.  (No Undo; back up files first!)


There are also inexpensive plug-ins from Silicon Prairie that will 
remove char/pgf overrides file- or book-wide.


s.

--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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Re: Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

Yes, but I'm cleaning up a 1000-page doc that has been updated by
many hands over the years. I need to look at each mistake and decide
what correct tags are, if any. Some of the mistakes are pretty
creative, e.g. somebody had a habit of accidentally formatting whole
paragraph with character tags and then using overrides to get it back
to normal.

FM10 can remove all character, paragraph, or table overrides in a book
with a single Change command, but I can't see that being useful very
often.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Stuart Rogers
srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:
 If you want to get rid of overrides en masse (and indiscriminately), you can
 import formats from the current document into itself, selecting Remove Other
 Format/Layout Overrides.  (No Undo; back up files first!)
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Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Stuart Rogers]

On 07/06/2012 4:47 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> Thanks to Craig Ede for pointing me to the new FM10 Find/Change
> Character Format Override feature.
>
> It's pretty crude. You can't specify a specific character format
> override to search for, the way you can when simply searching for
> character formats, so you can't find Italic or Bold overrides.
>
> It would be more consistent with other entries on the Find drop-down
> item if it were called Any Character Format Override.
>
> As is, the only use I can see for it would be to go through manually
> and fix each override individually.


If you want to get rid of overrides en masse (and indiscriminately), you 
can import formats from the current document into itself, selecting 
Remove Other Format/Layout Overrides.  (No Undo; back up files first!)

There are also inexpensive plug-ins from Silicon Prairie that will 
remove char/pgf overrides file- or book-wide.

s.

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

Yes, but I'm cleaning up a >1000-page doc that has been updated by
many hands over the years. I need to look at each mistake and decide
what correct tags are, if any. Some of the mistakes are pretty
creative, e.g. somebody had a habit of accidentally formatting whole
paragraph with character tags and then using overrides to get it back
to normal.

FM10 can remove all character, paragraph, or table overrides in a book
with a single Change command, but I can't see that being useful very
often.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> If you want to get rid of overrides en masse (and indiscriminately), you can
> import formats from the current document into itself, selecting Remove Other
> Format/Layout Overrides. ?(No Undo; back up files first!)

Find/Change Character Format Override in FM10

[Robert Lauriston]

Thanks to Craig Ede for pointing me to the new FM10 Find/Change
Character Format Override feature.

It's pretty crude. You can't specify a specific character format
override to search for, the way you can when simply searching for
character formats, so you can't find Italic or Bold overrides.

It would be more consistent with other entries on the Find drop-down
item if it were called Any Character Format Override.

As is, the only use I can see for it would be to go through manually
and fix each override individually.

Who does Adobe talk to when designing these features?

RE: Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10

[Combs, Richard]

Joseph Lorenzini wrote:
 
 I am using the Find Character Format Override option in the find
 dialog box. I am constantly getting a hit on the paragraph where a text
 inset is inserted. If the paragraph is Body, then it does not find an
 override. If however the paragraph format is anchor, then it does find
 an override. I am at a loss as to why one paragraph format causes a
 character format override to be found while the other does not. I
 have verified that the text inset does NOT contain a character format
 override.

Just noticed this query. FM has a long-standing bug where, if a text inset sits 
adjacent to the pilcrow (end of pgf mark) in the pgf into which it was 
inserted, the pgf containing the text inset takes on the formatting of the 
first pgf in the text inset. My guess is that what you're seeing is related. 
That's based on my other guess, that the text inset source begins with a Body 
pgf, so the issue doesn't manifest if it's inserted into a Body pgf. 

For the pgf-reformatting problem, the long-standing workaround was to put 
something between the text inset and the end of its container pgf. I always 
used a non-breaking space so it would be easy to see/find/verify, but anything 
will do. Try that, update all the text insets, and see if it takes care of the 
problem. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10

[Combs, Richard]

Joseph Lorenzini wrote:

> I am using the "Find Character Format Override" option in the find
> dialog box. I am constantly getting a hit on the paragraph where a text
> inset is inserted. If the paragraph is "Body", then it does not find an
> override. If however the paragraph format is anchor, then it does find
> an override. I am at a loss as to why one paragraph format causes a
> "character format override" to be found while the other does not. I
> have verified that the text inset does NOT contain a character format
> override.

Just noticed this query. FM has a long-standing bug where, if a text inset sits 
adjacent to the pilcrow (end of pgf mark) in the pgf into which it was 
inserted, the pgf containing the text inset takes on the formatting of the 
first pgf in the text inset. My guess is that what you're seeing is related. 
That's based on my other guess, that the text inset source begins with a Body 
pgf, so the issue doesn't manifest if it's inserted into a Body pgf. 

For the pgf-reformatting problem, the long-standing workaround was to put 
something between the text inset and the end of its container pgf. I always 
used a non-breaking space so it would be easy to see/find/verify, but anything 
will do. Try that, update all the text insets, and see if it takes care of the 
problem. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Re: Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Joseph,
Do you use Conditional Text?
The last time I checked (and the main reason I stopped using conditional text 
at my last company) Frame creates a character format override for every line of 
a praragraph that is conditionalized. It was a major pain for us, especially 
with multiple languages. We found it easier to nuke the conditions.
 
Bernard Gagne
Lead Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering



From: Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:51:10 PM
Subject: Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10


Hi all,

I am using the Find Character Format Override option in the find dialog box. 
I am constantly getting a hit on the paragraph where a text inset is inserted. 
If the paragraph is Body, then it does not find an override. If however the 
paragraph format is anchor, then it does find an override. I am at a loss as to 
why one paragraph format causes a character format override to be found while 
the other does not. I have verified that the text inset does NOT contain a 
character format override. 

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joseph Lorenzini

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Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Joseph,
Do you use Conditional Text?
The last time I checked (and the main reason I stopped using conditional text 
at my last company) Frame creates a character format override for every line of 
a praragraph that is conditionalized. It was a major pain for us, especially 
with multiple languages. We found it easier to nuke the conditions.
?
Bernard Gagne
Lead Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering



From: Joseph Lorenzini <jalo...@gmail.com>
To: FrameMaker Forum  
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:51:10 PM
Subject: Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10


Hi all,

I am using the "Find Character Format Override" option in the find dialog box. 
I am constantly getting a hit on the paragraph where a text inset is inserted. 
If the paragraph is "Body", then it does not find an override. If however the 
paragraph format is anchor, then it does find an override. I am at a loss as to 
why one paragraph format causes a "character format override" to be found while 
the other does not. I have verified that the text inset does NOT contain a 
character format override. 

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joseph Lorenzini

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Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10

[Joseph Lorenzini]

Hi all,

I am using the Find Character Format Override option in the find dialog
box. I am constantly getting a hit on the paragraph where a text inset is
inserted. If the paragraph is Body, then it does not find an override. If
however the paragraph format is anchor, then it does find an override. I am
at a loss as to why one paragraph format causes a character format
override to be found while the other does not. I have verified that the
text inset does NOT contain a character format override.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joseph Lorenzini
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Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10

[Joseph Lorenzini]

Hi all,

I am using the "Find Character Format Override" option in the find dialog
box. I am constantly getting a hit on the paragraph where a text inset is
inserted. If the paragraph is "Body", then it does not find an override. If
however the paragraph format is anchor, then it does find an override. I am
at a loss as to why one paragraph format causes a "character format
override" to be found while the other does not. I have verified that the
text inset does NOT contain a character format override.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joseph Lorenzini
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Character format override

[Celine Dion]

Hello all,

I'm using Mif2Go to convert FM8 books to HTML.

Once in a while, I need to override the Bold character format (color set to as 
is) with a different color, which can have one or more words. I've been going 
through the Mif2Go user's guide and trying all the permutations that I think 
should work, but at best I get bold text with the HTMConfig marker. I've tried 
with red, #FF, and a custom blue. The color is always black.

   - HTMConfig marker: [HTMLStyles]=Bold (or =Bold Lite Blue)
   - config file, [Macros] section: HTMConfig=$$HTMLStyles]Bold Lite 
Blue

Can anyone help?

Thanks a lot.

Celine Dion
Senior Technical Writer
cd...@cybersource.commailto:cd...@cybersource.com

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Re: Character format override

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:21:50 -0700, Celine Dion 
cd...@cybersource.com wrote:

I'm using Mif2Go to convert FM8 books to HTML.

Good choice.  ;-)

Once in a while, I need to override the Bold character 
format (color set to as is) with a different color, which 
can have one or more words. I've been going through the 
Mif2Go user's guide and trying all the permutations that 
I think should work, but at best I get bold text with the 
HTMConfig marker. I've tried with red, #FF, and a 
custom blue. The color is always black.

   - HTMConfig marker: [HTMLStyles]=Bold (or =Bold Lite Blue)

When you just use Bold, that works, right?  The trouble
is that the color names and CSS color values are not valid
properties for [HTMLStyles].  Look at the last example in
par. 20.8, Specifying text colors, for the right syntax, 
like this for red:

[Colors]
99 = ff

Then use in the marker:
  [HTMLStyles]=Bold Color99

   - config file, [Macros] section: HTMConfig=$$HTMLStyles]Bold Lite 
 Blue

That won't work at all, for lots of reasons.  ;-)

Can anyone help?

HTH!

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Character format override

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:21:50 -0700, Celine Dion 
 wrote:

>I'm using Mif2Go to convert FM8 books to HTML.

Good choice.  ;-)

>Once in a while, I need to override the Bold character 
>format (color set to as is) with a different color, which 
>can have one or more words. I've been going through the 
>Mif2Go user's guide and trying all the permutations that 
>I think should work, but at best I get bold text with the 
>HTMConfig marker. I've tried with red, #FF, and a 
>custom blue. The color is always black.
>
>   - HTMConfig marker: [HTMLStyles]=Bold (or =Bold "Lite Blue")

When you just use "Bold", that works, right?  The trouble
is that the color names and CSS color values are not valid
properties for [HTMLStyles].  Look at the last example in
par. 20.8, "Specifying text colors", for the right syntax, 
like this for red:

[Colors]
99 = ff

Then use in the marker:
  [HTMLStyles]=Bold Color99

>   - config file, [Macros] section: HTMConfig=<$$HTMLStyles]Bold "Lite 
> Blue">

That won't work at all, for lots of reasons.  ;-)

>Can anyone help?

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Character format override

[Celine Dion]

Hello all,

I'm using Mif2Go to convert FM8 books to HTML.

Once in a while, I need to override the Bold character format (color set to as 
is) with a different color, which can have one or more words. I've been going 
through the Mif2Go user's guide and trying all the permutations that I think 
should work, but at best I get bold text with the HTMConfig marker. I've tried 
with red, #FF, and a custom blue. The color is always black.

   - HTMConfig marker: [HTMLStyles]=Bold (or =Bold "Lite Blue")
   - config file, [Macros] section: HTMConfig=<$$HTMLStyles]Bold "Lite 
Blue">

Can anyone help?

Thanks a lot.

Celine Dion
Senior Technical Writer
cdion at cybersource.com