Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Just as a postscript to this If you're not making your own backup of your working files occasionally for your own use, you're making a huge leap of faith that everything is always going to work perfectly well in the server room and the IT department. Ask me how I felt when I discovered that the documentation servers weren't on the critical backup list... after they crashed (several employers ago). Not to mention potentially not being able to reach pieces that you want to include in your portfolio. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Brian Lamborn wrote: > > Joseph, > > The problem may be your network, not a Frame issue at all. I have noticed at > my location that if I am working with files on a network drive that the > performance is way slower. For this reason, I work on a book on my local > drive. At the end of the day I copy the folder with the book to the network > directory as a backup. I always clear out (delete) the previous day's backup > before copying to the network directory. I haven't had any performance issues > doing it this way. > > The side benefit of doing this is when the network goes down (which it only > does when it is very inconvenient for you), you still have your files and can > continue working. > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joseph" > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:35:43 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files > > Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is > causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. > > I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. > > This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. > > This Frame book is on a network. > > There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. > > Here are my system specs: > Windows XP Professional > Intel Core Duo CPU > 2 gigs of RAM > > > -- > Sincerely, > > Joseph Lorenzin > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as blamborn at comcast.net. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/blamborn%40comcast.net > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Just as a postscript to this If you're not making your own backup of your working files occasionally for your own use, you're making a huge leap of faith that everything is always going to work perfectly well in the server room and the IT department. Ask me how I felt when I discovered that the documentation servers weren't on the critical backup list... after they crashed (several employers ago). Not to mention potentially not being able to reach pieces that you want to include in your portfolio. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Brian Lamborn wrote: > > Joseph, > > The problem may be your network, not a Frame issue at all. I have noticed at > my location that if I am working with files on a network drive that the > performance is way slower. For this reason, I work on a book on my local > drive. At the end of the day I copy the folder with the book to the network > directory as a backup. I always clear out (delete) the previous day's backup > before copying to the network directory. I haven't had any performance issues > doing it this way. > > The side benefit of doing this is when the network goes down (which it only > does when it is very inconvenient for you), you still have your files and can > continue working. > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joseph" > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:35:43 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files > > Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is > causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. > > I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. > > This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. > > This Frame book is on a network. > > There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. > > Here are my system specs: > Windows XP Professional > Intel Core Duo CPU > 2 gigs of RAM > > > -- > Sincerely, > > Joseph Lorenzin > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as blamb...@comcast.net. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/blamborn%40comcast.net > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Joseph, The problem may be your network, not a Frame issue at all. I have noticed at my location that if I am working with files on a network drive that the performance is way slower. For this reason, I work on a book on my local drive. At the end of the day I copy the folder with the book to the network directory as a backup. I always clear out (delete) the previous day's backup before copying to the network directory. I haven't had any performance issues doing it this way. The side benefit of doing this is when the network goes down (which it only does when it is very inconvenient for you), you still have your files and can continue working. Thanks, Brian - Original Message - From: "Joseph" To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:35:43 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. This Frame book is on a network. There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. Here are my system specs: Windows XP Professional Intel Core Duo CPU 2 gigs of RAM -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as blamb...@comcast.net. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/blamborn%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Joseph, The problem may be your network, not a Frame issue at all. I have noticed at my location that if I am working with files on a network drive that the performance is way slower. For this reason, I work on a book on my local drive. At the end of the day I copy the folder with the book to the network directory as a backup. I always clear out (delete) the previous day's backup before copying to the network directory. I haven't had any performance issues doing it this way. The side benefit of doing this is when the network goes down (which it only does when it is very inconvenient for you), you still have your files and can continue working. Thanks, Brian - Original Message - From: "Joseph" To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:35:43 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. This Frame book is on a network. There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. Here are my system specs: Windows XP Professional Intel Core Duo CPU 2 gigs of RAM -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as blamborn at comcast.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/blamborn%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Yes, that's a pretty normal set up, and the book isn't particularly large, from a Frame point of view. What exactly is the problem? It's slow when updating, it crashes, something else? So, again, are you opening all the component files in order to minimize network thrashing? When you're working on the book, what is Task Manager showing you? Lots of CPU activity, lots of network stuff, something else? Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Joseph wrote: > Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is > causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. > > I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. > > This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. > > This Frame book is on a network. > > There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. > > Here are my system specs: > Windows XP Professional > Intel Core Duo CPU > 2 gigs of RAM > > > -- > Sincerely, > > Joseph Lorenzin > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Unfortunately its a mix of different graphics. Our tech pubs only recently started standardizing on PNG. Its a mix of WMF, PNG, JPG, Tiff. On the other hand, this particular document uses almost no graphics. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC wrote: > Hi Joseph, > Please tell the list what format your graphics are in? > -Darren > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:36 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files > > Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with > 650-page is > causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. > > I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. > > This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. > > This Frame book is on a network. > > There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by > reference. > > Here are my system specs: > Windows XP Professional > Intel Core Duo CPU > 2 gigs of RAM > > > -- > Sincerely, > > Joseph Lorenzin > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > darren.butler.ctr at robins.af.mil. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/darren.butler.ctr%40 > robins.af.mil > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini Naperville, IL 309-319-4487
Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. This Frame book is on a network. There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. Here are my system specs: Windows XP Professional Intel Core Duo CPU 2 gigs of RAM -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzin
Re: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Yes, that's a pretty normal set up, and the book isn't particularly large, from a Frame point of view. What exactly is the problem? It's slow when updating, it crashes, something else? So, again, are you opening all the component files in order to minimize network thrashing? When you're working on the book, what is Task Manager showing you? Lots of CPU activity, lots of network stuff, something else? Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Joseph wrote: > Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is > causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. > > I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. > > This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. > > This Frame book is on a network. > > There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. > > Here are my system specs: > Windows XP Professional > Intel Core Duo CPU > 2 gigs of RAM > > > -- > Sincerely, > > Joseph Lorenzin > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Do you mean that you have one book that contains 650 1 page files? 650 pages spread over a few files should not be a problem. Try opening all of the files before you perform any book wide tasks. If the files are closed, FM has to open and close each one as it moves through the book, which can slow things down on a network. Clint Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:36 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. This Frame book is on a network. There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. Here are my system specs: Windows XP Professional Intel Core Duo CPU 2 gigs of RAM -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as clint.o...@craneaerospace.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/clint.owen%40craneae rospace.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. We value your opinion! How may we serve you better? Please click the survey link to tell us how we are doing. http://www.craneae.com/surveys/satisfaction.htm Your feedback is of the utmost importance to us. Thank you for your time. >>>>>>>>>> Crane Aerospace & Electronics Confidentiality Statement <<<<<<<<<< The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient, or any employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Unfortunately its a mix of different graphics. Our tech pubs only recently started standardizing on PNG. Its a mix of WMF, PNG, JPG, Tiff. On the other hand, this particular document uses almost no graphics. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC wrote: > Hi Joseph, > Please tell the list what format your graphics are in? > -Darren > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:36 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files > > Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with > 650-page is > causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. > > I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. > > This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. > > This Frame book is on a network. > > There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by > reference. > > Here are my system specs: > Windows XP Professional > Intel Core Duo CPU > 2 gigs of RAM > > > -- > Sincerely, > > Joseph Lorenzin > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > darren.butler@robins.af.mil. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/darren.butler.ctr%40 > robins.af.mil > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini Naperville, IL 309-319-4487 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Do you mean that you have one book that contains 650 1 page files? 650 pages spread over a few files should not be a problem. Try opening all of the files before you perform any book wide tasks. If the files are closed, FM has to open and close each one as it moves through the book, which can slow things down on a network. Clint Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:36 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Clarification on Handling Large Book Files Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. This Frame book is on a network. There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. Here are my system specs: Windows XP Professional Intel Core Duo CPU 2 gigs of RAM -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Clint.Owen at craneaerospace.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/clint.owen%40craneae rospace.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. We value your opinion! How may we serve you better? Please click the survey link to tell us how we are doing. http://www.craneae.com/surveys/satisfaction.htm Your feedback is of the utmost importance to us. Thank you for your time. >>>>>>>>>> Crane Aerospace & Electronics Confidentiality Statement <<<<<<<<<< The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient, or any employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal
Clarification on Handling Large Book Files
Apparently, my imprecise language for describing my problem with 650-page is causing some confusion. Here's a clarification. I am talking about one Frame book that contains multiple frame files. This book contains 650-pages, which I convert into one PDF. This Frame book is on a network. There are no OLEs, only graphics. These graphics are imported by reference. Here are my system specs: Windows XP Professional Intel Core Duo CPU 2 gigs of RAM -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
