Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is registered with framers. Hi. FM 8.0p273 Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional text. FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions, become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? Thanks, Jona Steenbrink
Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track Text Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off the feature. -Gillian -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jona Steenbrink Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is registered with framers. Hi. FM 8.0p273 Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional text. FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions, become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? Thanks, Jona Steenbrink ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as gflato at nanometrics.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were not, on. It's a mystery. On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: > The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track > Text > Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off > the feature. > > > -Gillian > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jona > Steenbrink > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away > > Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The > first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is > registered with framers. > > > Hi. > > FM8.0p273 > Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) > > I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional > text. > > FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, > when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green > with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now > bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now > it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. > > All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and > three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). > > I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) > Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document > level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged > paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. > > What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very > wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me > nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? > > Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I > select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. > Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these > segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions, > become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? > > Thanks, > > Jona Steenbrink > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as gflato at nanometrics.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics > .com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Jona Steenbrink Technical Writer Bluefin Robotics email: jsteenbrink at bluefinrobotics.com phone: 720-379-7502 AIM: pjsteenbrink Skype: jonasteenbrink www.bluefinrobotics.com
Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
Have you washed the file by saving out to MIF and opening that file? Is there any chance that you have book-level conditional text settings turned on that would over-ride the component chapter file's settings? Art On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jona Steenbrink wrote: > Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were not, on. > > It's a mystery. > > On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: > >> The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track >> Text >> Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off >> the feature. >> >> >> -Gillian >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com >> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jona >> Steenbrink >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM >> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away >> >> Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The >> first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is >> registered with framers. >> >> >> Hi. >> >> FM8.0p273 >> Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) >> >> I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional >> text. >> >> FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, >> when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green >> with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now >> bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now >> it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. >> >> All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and >> three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). >> >> I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) >> Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document >> level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged >> paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. >> >> What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very >> wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me >> nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? >> >> Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I >> select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. >> Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these >> segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions, >> become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jona Steenbrink >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as gflato at nanometrics.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics >> .com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > Jona Steenbrink > Technical Writer > Bluefin Robotics > email: jsteenbrink at bluefinrobotics.com > phone: 720-379-7502 > AIM: pjsteenbrink > Skype: jonasteenbrink > www.bluefinrobotics.com > > > > > > ___ > > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
Update to conditional text (and thanks for everybody's input) Despite track changes not being on, clicking Accept All Changes, does get rid of the mark-ups. However, it also got rid of all of the conditional text. The problem clearly had to do with track changes in some way, but surely track changes doesn't spontaneously turn itself on... and then apply to only part of a document? It's baffling. (To me, at least). Anyway, thanks for everyone's help. I will handle conditional text with greater care in the future. Jona On May 21, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > Have you washed the file by saving out to MIF and opening that file? > Is there any chance that you have book-level conditional text settings > turned on that would over-ride the component chapter file's settings? > > Art > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jona Steenbrink > wrote: >> Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were >> not, on. >> >> It's a mystery. >> >> On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: >> >>> The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track >>> Text >>> Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn >>> off >>> the feature. >>> >>> >>> -Gillian >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com >>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jona >>> Steenbrink >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM >>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >>> Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away >>> >>> Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. >>> The >>> first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is >>> registered with framers. >>> >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> FM8.0p273 >>> Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) >>> >>> I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional >>> text. >>> >>> FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, >>> when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright >>> green >>> with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's >>> now >>> bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) >>> now >>> it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. >>> >>> All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and >>> three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). >>> >>> I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) >>> Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document >>> level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged >>> paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. >>> >>> What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very >>> wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me >>> nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? >>> >>> Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I >>> select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. >>> Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that >>> these >>> segments of text have, through some action or combination of >>> actions, >>> become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jona Steenbrink >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> You are currently subscribed to Framers as gflato at nanometrics.com. >>> >>> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >>> or visit >>> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics >>> .com >>> >>> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >>> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> Jona Steenbrink >> Technical Writer >> Bluefin Robotics >> email: jsteenbrink at bluefinrobotics.com >> phone: 720-379-7502 >> AIM: pjsteenbrink >> Skype: jonasteenbrink >> www.bluefinrobotics.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> > > > -- > Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358
Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
"...but surely track changes doesn't spontaneously turn itself on... and then apply to only part of a document?" I have learned that when diagnosing any given issue, it is best to leave open all possibilities until they have each been ruled out empirically or the issue has been resolved. Once again, as one of my old computers gurus said, "95% of this stuff can be explained." > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jona Steenbrink > Sent: 2008-05-21 17:33 > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away > > Update to conditional text (and thanks for everybody's input) > > > Despite track changes not being on, clicking Accept All Changes, does > get rid of the mark-ups. However, it also got rid of all of the > conditional text. The problem clearly had to do with track changes in > some way, but surely track changes doesn't spontaneously turn itself > on... and then apply to only part of a document? > > It's baffling. (To me, at least). > > Anyway, thanks for everyone's help. I will handle conditional text > with greater care in the future. > > Jona > > On May 21, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > > > Have you washed the file by saving out to MIF and opening that file? > > Is there any chance that you have book-level conditional text settings > > turned on that would over-ride the component chapter file's settings? > > > > Art > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jona Steenbrink > > wrote: > >> Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were > >> not, on. > >> > >> It's a mystery. > >> > >> On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: > >> > >>> The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track > >>> Text > >>> Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn > >>> off > >>> the feature. > >>> > >>> > >>> -Gillian > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > >>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jona > >>> Steenbrink > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM > >>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > >>> Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away > >>> > >>> Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. > >>> The > >>> first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is > >>> registered with framers. > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi. > >>> > >>> FM8.0p273 > >>> Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) > >>> > >>> I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional > >>> text. > >>> > >>> FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, > >>> when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright > >>> green > >>> with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's > >>> now > >>> bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) > >>> now > >>> it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. > >>> > >>> All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and > >>> three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). > >>> > >>> I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) > >>> Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document > >>> level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged > >>> paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. > >>> > >>> What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very > >>> wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me > >>> nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? > >>> > >>> Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I > >>> select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. > >>> Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that > >&g
Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is registered with framers. Hi. FM 8.0p273 Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional text. FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions, become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? Thanks, Jona Steenbrink ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track Text Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off the feature. -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona Steenbrink Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is registered with framers. Hi. FM 8.0p273 Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional text. FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions, become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? Thanks, Jona Steenbrink ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were not, on. It's a mystery. On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: > The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track > Text > Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off > the feature. > > > -Gillian > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona > Steenbrink > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away > > Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The > first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is > registered with framers. > > > Hi. > > FM8.0p273 > Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) > > I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional > text. > > FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, > when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green > with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now > bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now > it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. > > All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and > three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). > > I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) > Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document > level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged > paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. > > What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very > wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me > nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? > > Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I > select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. > Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these > segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions, > become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? > > Thanks, > > Jona Steenbrink > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics > .com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Jona Steenbrink Technical Writer Bluefin Robotics email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 720-379-7502 AIM: pjsteenbrink Skype: jonasteenbrink www.bluefinrobotics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
Have you washed the file by saving out to MIF and opening that file? Is there any chance that you have book-level conditional text settings turned on that would over-ride the component chapter file's settings? Art On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jona Steenbrink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were not, on. > > It's a mystery. > > On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: > >> The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track >> Text >> Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off >> the feature. >> >> >> -Gillian >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona >> Steenbrink >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM >> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away >> >> Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The >> first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is >> registered with framers. >> >> >> Hi. >> >> FM8.0p273 >> Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) >> >> I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional >> text. >> >> FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, >> when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green >> with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now >> bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now >> it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. >> >> All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and >> three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). >> >> I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) >> Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document >> level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged >> paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. >> >> What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very >> wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me >> nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? >> >> Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I >> select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. >> Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these >> segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions, >> become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jona Steenbrink >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics >> .com >> >> Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > Jona Steenbrink > Technical Writer > Bluefin Robotics > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > phone: 720-379-7502 > AIM: pjsteenbrink > Skype: jonasteenbrink > www.bluefinrobotics.com > > > > > > ___ > > -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
Update to conditional text (and thanks for everybody's input) Despite track changes not being on, clicking Accept All Changes, does get rid of the mark-ups. However, it also got rid of all of the conditional text. The problem clearly had to do with track changes in some way, but surely track changes doesn't spontaneously turn itself on... and then apply to only part of a document? It's baffling. (To me, at least). Anyway, thanks for everyone's help. I will handle conditional text with greater care in the future. Jona On May 21, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > Have you washed the file by saving out to MIF and opening that file? > Is there any chance that you have book-level conditional text settings > turned on that would over-ride the component chapter file's settings? > > Art > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jona Steenbrink > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were >> not, on. >> >> It's a mystery. >> >> On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: >> >>> The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track >>> Text >>> Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn >>> off >>> the feature. >>> >>> >>> -Gillian >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona >>> Steenbrink >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM >>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >>> Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away >>> >>> Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. >>> The >>> first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is >>> registered with framers. >>> >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> FM8.0p273 >>> Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) >>> >>> I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional >>> text. >>> >>> FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, >>> when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright >>> green >>> with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's >>> now >>> bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) >>> now >>> it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. >>> >>> All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and >>> three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). >>> >>> I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) >>> Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document >>> level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged >>> paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. >>> >>> What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very >>> wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me >>> nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? >>> >>> Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I >>> select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. >>> Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that >>> these >>> segments of text have, through some action or combination of >>> actions, >>> become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jona Steenbrink >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> or visit >>> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics >>> .com >>> >>> Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit >>> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> Jona Steenbrink >> Technical Writer >> Bluefin Robotics >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> phone: 720-379-7502 >> AIM: pjsteenbrink >> Skype: jonasteenbrink >> www.bluefinrobotics.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> > > > -- > Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away
"...but surely track changes doesn't spontaneously turn itself on... and then apply to only part of a document?" I have learned that when diagnosing any given issue, it is best to leave open all possibilities until they have each been ruled out empirically or the issue has been resolved. Once again, as one of my old computers gurus said, "95% of this stuff can be explained." > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona Steenbrink > Sent: 2008-05-21 17:33 > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away > > Update to conditional text (and thanks for everybody's input) > > > Despite track changes not being on, clicking Accept All Changes, does > get rid of the mark-ups. However, it also got rid of all of the > conditional text. The problem clearly had to do with track changes in > some way, but surely track changes doesn't spontaneously turn itself > on... and then apply to only part of a document? > > It's baffling. (To me, at least). > > Anyway, thanks for everyone's help. I will handle conditional text > with greater care in the future. > > Jona > > On May 21, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > > > Have you washed the file by saving out to MIF and opening that file? > > Is there any chance that you have book-level conditional text settings > > turned on that would over-ride the component chapter file's settings? > > > > Art > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jona Steenbrink > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were > >> not, on. > >> > >> It's a mystery. > >> > >> On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: > >> > >>> The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track > >>> Text > >>> Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn > >>> off > >>> the feature. > >>> > >>> > >>> -Gillian > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona > >>> Steenbrink > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:20 PM > >>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > >>> Subject: Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away > >>> > >>> Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. > >>> The > >>> first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is > >>> registered with framers. > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi. > >>> > >>> FM8.0p273 > >>> Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac) > >>> > >>> I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional > >>> text. > >>> > >>> FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact, > >>> when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright > >>> green > >>> with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's > >>> now > >>> bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) > >>> now > >>> it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar. > >>> > >>> All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and > >>> three different colors (green, olive, and magenta). > >>> > >>> I cannot make this text unconditional. Selecting (or deselecting) > >>> Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document > >>> level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged > >>> paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs. > >>> > >>> What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very > >>> wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me > >>> nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? > >>> > >>> Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I > >>> select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste. > >>> Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that > >>> these > >>> segments of text have, through some action or combination of > >>> actions, > >>> become hopelessl
