Cost of software charged outside US borders
On 23/02/13 9:30 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > What article? See following posts > > There are various sound business reasons for charging different prices > for software in different countries. shure. Easy to say when you're not on the receiving end. Alan
Cost of software charged outside US borders
!!! It is of benefit to customers to be gouged whilst buying "Creative Cloud" and it is "phenomenal value to customers"??? Methinks not, but maybe I am not of their future market. Alan On 23/02/13 12:24 PM, Helen Borrie wrote: > At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this >> article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my >> concerns have been noted by others. > > Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier > in the week. Look at > http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html > for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal > diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy > his software than it costs his customers in other countries. He seems to be > saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from > being gouged. > > Helen > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Cost of software charged outside US borders
At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this >article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my >concerns have been noted by others. Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier in the week. Look at http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy his software than it costs his customers in other countries. He seems to be saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from being gouged. Helen
Cost of software charged outside US borders
Sorry, link disappeared. Thanks Nadine. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10867173 Alan On 23/02/13 9:23 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but > this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in > that my concerns have been noted by others. > > What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are > being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for > price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded. > > I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well... > > Alan -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Cost of software charged outside US borders
I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my concerns have been noted by others. What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded. I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well... Alan -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Cost of software charged outside US borders
On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:30:23 -0800, Robert Lauriston wrote: >There are various sound business reasons for charging >different prices for software in different countries. I can't even imagine what those might be. Localization? Internationalization? With the number of languages used by people in the US itself, those are universal costs, not country-specific. We think the policy is imperialistic and exploitative, an example of "all the traffic will bear" rather than equitable business practice. Mif2Go is the same price throughout the world, $295 for a single seat. Since the downturn, the majority of our sales have been outside the US, perhaps partly because Adobe makes the large cost advantage of Mif2Go over RH (or the TCS) even more glaring there. ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://mif2go.com/
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:30:23 -0800, Robert Lauriston wrote: >There are various sound business reasons for charging >different prices for software in different countries. I can't even imagine what those might be. Localization? Internationalization? With the number of languages used by people in the US itself, those are universal costs, not country-specific. We think the policy is imperialistic and exploitative, an example of "all the traffic will bear" rather than equitable business practice. Mif2Go is the same price throughout the world, $295 for a single seat. Since the downturn, the majority of our sales have been outside the US, perhaps partly because Adobe makes the large cost advantage of Mif2Go over RH (or the TCS) even more glaring there. ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://mif2go.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
On 23/02/13 9:30 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What article? See following posts There are various sound business reasons for charging different prices for software in different countries. shure. Easy to say when you're not on the receiving end. Alan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
What article? There are various sound business reasons for charging different prices for software in different countries. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this > article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my > concerns have been noted by others. > > What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are being > called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for price > discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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"I think we're constantly looking at what's the best way to deliver value to our customers ..." And then for his next act, Mr. Narayen ran for Parliament. Nadine > > From: Alan T Litchfield >To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:22:10 PM >Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders > >!!! > >It is of benefit to customers to be gouged whilst buying "Creative >Cloud" and it is "phenomenal value to customers"??? > >Methinks not, but maybe I am not of their future market. > >Alan > >On 23/02/13 12:24 PM, Helen Borrie wrote: >> At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >>> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but >>> this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in >>> that my concerns have been noted by others. >> >> Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier >> in the week. Look at >> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html >> for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal >> diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy >> his software than it costs his customers in other countries. He seems to be >> saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from >> being gouged. >> >> Helen >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > >-- >AlphaByte >PO Box 1941, Auckland >http://www.alphabyte.co.nz >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. > >Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > >Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Cost of software charged outside US borders
"I think we're constantly looking at what's the best way to deliver value to our customers ..." And then for his next act, Mr. Narayen ran for?Parliament. Nadine > > From: Alan T Litchfield >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:22:10 PM >Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders > >!!! > >It is of benefit to customers to be gouged whilst buying "Creative >Cloud" and it is "phenomenal value to customers"??? > >Methinks not, but maybe I am not of their future market. > >Alan > >On 23/02/13 12:24 PM, Helen Borrie wrote: >> At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >>> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but >>> this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in >>> that my concerns have been noted by others. >> >> Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier >> in the week.? Look at >> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html >> for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal >> diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy >> his software than it costs his customers in other countries.? He seems to be >> saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from >> being gouged. >> >> Helen >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > >-- >AlphaByte >PO Box 1941, Auckland >http://www.alphabyte.co.nz >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > >
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!!! It is of benefit to customers to be gouged whilst buying "Creative Cloud" and it is "phenomenal value to customers"??? Methinks not, but maybe I am not of their future market. Alan On 23/02/13 12:24 PM, Helen Borrie wrote: At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote: I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my concerns have been noted by others. Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier in the week. Look at http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy his software than it costs his customers in other countries. He seems to be saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from being gouged. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this >article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my >concerns have been noted by others. Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier in the week. Look at http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy his software than it costs his customers in other countries. He seems to be saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from being gouged. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Thanks for the link, Alan. I knew that people in Australia and NZ got charged way more for music. I forgot about the software thing. Hurray for Australia for being proactive about the issue. We see a similar thing here in Canada, especially with the price of books. Nadine > > From: Alan T Litchfield >To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:58:15 PM >Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders > >Sorry, link disappeared. Thanks Nadine. > >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10867173 > >Alan > >On 23/02/13 9:23 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but >> this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in >> that my concerns have been noted by others. >> >> What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are >> being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for >> price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded. >> >> I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well... >> >> Alan > >-- >AlphaByte >PO Box 1941, Auckland >http://www.alphabyte.co.nz >___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Cost of software charged outside US borders
Thanks for the link, Alan. I knew that people in Australia and NZ got charged way more for music. I forgot about the software thing. Hurray for Australia for being proactive about the issue. We see a similar thing here in Canada, especially with the price of books. Nadine > > From: Alan T Litchfield >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:58:15 PM >Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders > >Sorry, link disappeared. Thanks Nadine. > >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10867173 > >Alan > >On 23/02/13 9:23 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but >> this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in >> that my concerns have been noted by others. >> >> What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are >> being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for >> price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded. >> >> I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well... >> >> Alan > >-- >AlphaByte >PO Box 1941, Auckland >http://www.alphabyte.co.nz >___
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Sorry, link disappeared. Thanks Nadine. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10867173 Alan On 23/02/13 9:23 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my concerns have been noted by others. What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded. I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well... Alan -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Cost of software charged outside US borders
What article? There are various sound business reasons for charging different prices for software in different countries. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this > article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my > concerns have been noted by others. > > What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are being > called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for price > discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded.
Cost of software charged outside US borders
I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my concerns have been noted by others. What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded. I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well... Alan -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
