Re: Creating a working generated TOC using Structured Framemaker - Need Help

2008-02-07 Thread Valerie Lipow
 I'm not sure that there is anything to be gained by structuring a generated
file in a FM book. Of course, bookmarks and Search eliminate the need for
these links in an electronic PDF, and hyperlinks of any kind are irrelevant
in a printed document.

However, when I generated a PDF of the original book, with structured
chapters and generated TOC and Index, the PDF links were broken from the TOC
and Index. (In addition, the inter-chapter cross-references were broken,
while the intra-chapter links were intact. But that's a different message.)

My client was unhappy, and I was surprised, that when FM generated the PDF
(with bookmarks and tagging), the TOC links didn't work. So, I'm looking to
see if there is a way to impose structure easily on generated files.

Valerie Lipow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:43 am
Subject: RE: Creating a working generated TOC using Structured Framemaker -
Need Help

 I am under the impression that most FrameMaker books built from structured
components have unstructured generated files. What is there to be gained
by making the generated files structured?

> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:27:27 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Creating a working generated TOC using Structured Framemaker -
Need Help

>
> I have inherited a book containing multiple documents and generated TOC
and
> Index. The documents have been structured. However, I want to structure
the
> TOC and Index as well. I have created a Conversion Table and an EDD to
> impose structure on the generated TOC.
>
> As I was experimenting with this type of EDD on a generated file, I saw in
> the Structure View that FM imposes a  element in the TOC that
> captured the .fm link to the Heading in the document that was added to the
> TOC design. However, the text of the Heading appears outside the
structure;
> i.e., the pointer to the Heading and the Heading text are separated in the
> structure, and FM created the marker to the pointer, although the marker
was
> absent in the EDD.
>
> I understood that because no  marker was in the EDD, the
>  pointer ID in file.fm  was not recognized when I
> imposed the EDD on the document. So, I added a marker in the EDD called
> .
>
> When I reimposed the EDD on the generated TOC, the content appears as
> follows:
>
> 
>  the link to the source in the .fm document 
> .the text of the Heading in the .fm document
> 
>
> What should the EDD look like to capture the Heading and the pointer?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> --
> Valerie Lipow
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Creating a working generated TOC using Structured Framemaker - Need Help

2008-02-07 Thread Valerie Lipow
 I'm not sure that there is anything to be gained by structuring a generated
file in a FM book. Of course, bookmarks and Search eliminate the need for
these links in an electronic PDF, and hyperlinks of any kind are irrelevant
in a printed document.

However, when I generated a PDF of the original book, with structured
chapters and generated TOC and Index, the PDF links were broken from the TOC
and Index. (In addition, the inter-chapter cross-references were broken,
while the intra-chapter links were intact. But that's a different message.)

My client was unhappy, and I was surprised, that when FM generated the PDF
(with bookmarks and tagging), the TOC links didn't work. So, I'm looking to
see if there is a way to impose structure easily on generated files.

Valerie Lipow
vallipow at gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Fred Ridder 
To: vallipow at aol.com
Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:43 am
Subject: RE: Creating a working generated TOC using Structured Framemaker -
Need Help

 I am under the impression that most FrameMaker books built from structured
components have unstructured generated files. What is there to be gained
by making the generated files structured?

> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:27:27 -0800
> From: vallipow at gmail.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Creating a working generated TOC using Structured Framemaker -
Need Help

>
> I have inherited a book containing multiple documents and generated TOC
and
> Index. The documents have been structured. However, I want to structure
the
> TOC and Index as well. I have created a Conversion Table and an EDD to
> impose structure on the generated TOC.
>
> As I was experimenting with this type of EDD on a generated file, I saw in
> the Structure View that FM imposes a  element in the TOC that
> captured the .fm link to the Heading in the document that was added to the
> TOC design. However, the text of the Heading appears outside the
structure;
> i.e., the pointer to the Heading and the Heading text are separated in the
> structure, and FM created the marker to the pointer, although the marker
was
> absent in the EDD.
>
> I understood that because no  marker was in the EDD, the
>  pointer ID in file.fm  was not recognized when I
> imposed the EDD on the document. So, I added a marker in the EDD called
> .
>
> When I reimposed the EDD on the generated TOC, the content appears as
> follows:
>
> 
>  the link to the source in the .fm document 
> .the text of the Heading in the .fm document
> 
>
> What should the EDD look like to capture the Heading and the pointer?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> --
> Valerie Lipow
> vallipow at gmail.com
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Creating a working generated TOC using Structured Framemaker - Need Help

2008-02-07 Thread Valerie Lipow
I have inherited a book containing multiple documents and generated TOC and
Index. The documents have been structured. However, I want to structure the
TOC and Index as well. I have created a Conversion Table and an EDD to
impose structure on the generated TOC.

As I was experimenting with this type of EDD on a generated file, I saw in
the Structure View that FM imposes a  element in the TOC that
captured the .fm link to the Heading in the document that was added to the
TOC design. However, the text of the Heading appears outside the structure;
i.e., the pointer to the Heading and the Heading text are separated in the
structure, and FM created the marker to the pointer, although the marker was
absent in the EDD.

I understood that because no  marker was in the EDD, the
 pointer ID in file.fm  was not recognized when I
imposed the EDD on the document. So, I added a marker in the EDD called
.

When I reimposed the EDD on the generated TOC, the content appears as
follows:


 the link to the source in the .fm document 
.the text of the Heading in the .fm document


What should the EDD look like to capture the Heading and the pointer?

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Valerie Lipow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Creating a working generated TOC using Structured Framemaker - Need Help

2008-02-07 Thread Valerie Lipow
I have inherited a book containing multiple documents and generated TOC and
Index. The documents have been structured. However, I want to structure the
TOC and Index as well. I have created a Conversion Table and an EDD to
impose structure on the generated TOC.

As I was experimenting with this type of EDD on a generated file, I saw in
the Structure View that FM imposes a  element in the TOC that
captured the .fm link to the Heading in the document that was added to the
TOC design. However, the text of the Heading appears outside the structure;
i.e., the pointer to the Heading and the Heading text are separated in the
structure, and FM created the marker to the pointer, although the marker was
absent in the EDD.

I understood that because no  marker was in the EDD, the
 pointer ID in file.fm  was not recognized when I
imposed the EDD on the document. So, I added a marker in the EDD called
.

When I reimposed the EDD on the generated TOC, the content appears as
follows:


 the link to the source in the .fm document 
.the text of the Heading in the .fm document


What should the EDD look like to capture the Heading and the pointer?

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Valerie Lipow
vallipow at gmail.com