RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice
The Documentum documentation is pretty good, and I think they offer an end user guide that covers all the fundamentals as well as the basics of document management. Working with FrameMaker and DCTM is another thing altogether. There was an add-on application that helped but not sure if it's still in production (and can't recall the name at the moment either). HTH Gordon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Courtney Collins Sent: 08 August 2007 18:27 To: frame users group Subject: Documentum and FrameMaker advice My company just purchased documentum (in conjunction with another software program) and I am trying to find a quick and dirty way for us to get acclimated. Does anyone know of a good beginner's course or a documentum for dummies book that they can recommend? Thank you Courtney Collins Datascope This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice
You're probably thinking of FrameLink, which was, in fact, discontinued by its publisher (Datalogics) in early 2005. It was a great product for unstructured FrameMaker, but they never really addressed the XML capabilities of FM7.x and the introduction of multiple undo in FM7.2 broke the interface altogether. -Fred Ridder From: Gordon McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'frame users group' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:18:17 +0100 The Documentum documentation is pretty good, and I think they offer an end user guide that covers all the fundamentals as well as the basics of document management. Working with FrameMaker and DCTM is another thing altogether. There was an add-on application that helped but not sure if it's still in production (and can't recall the name at the moment either). HTH Gordon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Courtney Collins Sent: 08 August 2007 18:27 To: frame users group Subject: Documentum and FrameMaker advice My company just purchased documentum (in conjunction with another software program) and I am trying to find a quick and dirty way for us to get acclimated. Does anyone know of a good beginner's course or a documentum for dummies book that they can recommend? Thank you Courtney Collins Datascope This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Now you can see troubleĀ before he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice
Courtney, We used Documentum for a number of years at two previous incarnations of my company. As a matter of fact, when we were looking at Content Management Systems (back in 2000), the Documentation Department was one of the majot internal customers and ability to handle Frame docs and books intelligently was an absolutely nrcessity. That filter also helped to reduce the number of CMS candidates voery considerably. We eventually chose Documentum for its many robust features but also because of its Framelink integration. FrameLink was a plugin for Frame, made by DataLogics, a third-party software company in Chicago (which started life as a FrameMaker subsidiary). FrameLink mostly worked very well, but because it tried to such a perfect emulation on both side of its interface, it occasionally tripped over itself. Eventually, though, it became very solid. However, about two years ago (at about the time Documentum went through a very major upgrade), DataLogic quietly decided to discontinue support for FrameLink. Apparently, the decision was made easier for them when they contemplated the extensive development they would have to put into the product to have it be compatible with the new incarnation of Documentum. There were subsequent talks with Adobe and Documentum re taking it over (I talked to people in both companies, including R.J. Jacques at Documentum), but as far as I know, they never went anywhere. That discontinuance alone was enough to force our documentation people off Documentum. Since then, we have been uncomfortably living with having our docs on plain old file servers. In the meantime, other CMS companies have come along, with systems geared especially for doc depts. Several of them have (Structured) Frame/XML interfaces. One of them, SiberLogic, has expressed strong interest in expanding the capability of its Frame plugin to also handle unstructured Frame docs. They say that most of the underlying code is already in place and it would be a prerry straightforward effort. If/when we get the money and the go ahead, we will probably acquire one of those XML-based documentation systems. I hope that this helps. Micheal O'Laoghaire KBS Documentation Comverse Inc. Cambridge, MA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:18 AM To: 'frame users group' Subject: RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice The Documentum documentation is pretty good, and I think they offer an end user guide that covers all the fundamentals as well as the basics of document management. Working with FrameMaker and DCTM is another thing altogether. There was an add-on application that helped but not sure if it's still in production (and can't recall the name at the moment either). HTH Gordon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ers. com] On Behalf Of Courtney Collins Sent: 08 August 2007 18:27 To: frame users group Subject: Documentum and FrameMaker advice My company just purchased documentum (in conjunction with another software program) and I am trying to find a quick and dirty way for us to get acclimated. Does anyone know of a good beginner's course or a documentum for dummies book that they can recommend? Thank you Courtney Collins Datascope This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/micheal.olaoghaire%4 0comverse.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages
Documentum and FrameMaker advice
The Documentum documentation is pretty good, and I think they offer an end user guide that covers all the fundamentals as well as the basics of document management. Working with FrameMaker and DCTM is another thing altogether. There was an add-on application that helped but not sure if it's still in production (and can't recall the name at the moment either). HTH Gordon -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+gordon.mclean=grahamtechnology.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+gordon.mclean=grahamtechnology.com at lists.frameusers. com] On Behalf Of Courtney Collins Sent: 08 August 2007 18:27 To: frame users group Subject: Documentum and FrameMaker advice My company just purchased documentum (in conjunction with another software program) and I am trying to find a quick and dirty way for us to get acclimated. Does anyone know of a good beginner's course or a "documentum for dummies" book that they can recommend? Thank you Courtney Collins Datascope This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com
Documentum and FrameMaker advice
Hi, If you are refering to FrameLink from Datalogics, my understanding is that this no longer exists. It's been a few years since I looked at FrameMaker and DCTM but I believe there used to be an ODMA client supplied with FrameMaker that could be installed to provide basic integration with DCTM. I can't remember seeing it after FrameMaker 6 though. FrameLink was very good because it supported references and links between documents/images and supported FM books too. It's just a shame it no longer is available :( This probably won't help you much now but gives a little more detail about what used to be available :) Regards Mark Poston Mekon Ltd. On 9/8/07 09:18, "Gordon McLean" wrote: > The Documentum documentation is pretty good, and I think they offer an end > user guide that covers all the fundamentals as well as the basics of > document management. > > Working with FrameMaker and DCTM is another thing altogether. There was an > add-on application that helped but not sure if it's still in production (and > can't recall the name at the moment either). > > HTH > > Gordon > > > -Original Message- > From: > framers-bounces+gordon.mclean=grahamtechnology.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+gordon.mclean=grahamtechnology.com at > lists.frameusers. > com] On Behalf Of Courtney Collins > Sent: 08 August 2007 18:27 > To: frame users group > Subject: Documentum and FrameMaker advice > > My company just purchased documentum (in conjunction with another software > program) and I am trying to find a quick and dirty way for us to get > acclimated. Does anyone know of a good beginner's course or a "documentum > for dummies" book that they can recommend? > > Thank you > Courtney Collins > Datascope > > > > > __ > __ > This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended > solely for the > addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it > and inform us via > telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and > attachments > are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any > responsibility > whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The > views represented > within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the > views of the organisation > as a whole. > __ > __ > Graham Technology plc > Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 > Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH > > http://www.grahamtechnology.com > __ > __ > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as mark.poston at mekon.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mark.poston%40mekon.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Documentum and FrameMaker advice
Courtney, We used Documentum for a number of years at two previous incarnations of my company. As a matter of fact, when we were looking at Content Management Systems (back in 2000), the Documentation Department was one of the majot internal customers and ability to handle Frame docs and books intelligently was an absolutely nrcessity. That filter also helped to reduce the number of CMS candidates voery considerably. We eventually chose Documentum for its many robust features but also because of its Framelink integration. FrameLink was a plugin for Frame, made by DataLogics, a third-party software company in Chicago (which started life as a FrameMaker subsidiary). FrameLink mostly worked very well, but because it tried to such a perfect emulation on both side of its interface, it occasionally tripped over itself. Eventually, though, it became very solid. However, about two years ago (at about the time Documentum went through a very major upgrade), DataLogic quietly decided to discontinue support for FrameLink. Apparently, the decision was made easier for them when they contemplated the extensive development they would have to put into the product to have it be compatible with the new incarnation of Documentum. There were subsequent talks with Adobe and Documentum re taking it over (I talked to people in both companies, including R.J. Jacques at Documentum), but as far as I know, they never went anywhere. That discontinuance alone was enough to force our documentation people off Documentum. Since then, we have been uncomfortably living with having our docs on plain old file servers. In the meantime, other CMS companies have come along, with systems geared especially for doc depts. Several of them have (Structured) Frame/XML interfaces. One of them, SiberLogic, has expressed strong interest in expanding the capability of its Frame plugin to also handle unstructured Frame docs. They say that most of the underlying code is already in place and it would be a prerry straightforward effort. If/when we get the money and the go ahead, we will probably acquire one of those XML-based documentation systems. I hope that this helps. Micheal O'Laoghaire KBS Documentation Comverse Inc. Cambridge, MA. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+micheal.olaoghaire=comverse.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+micheal.olaoghaire=comverse.com at lists.frameusers .com] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:18 AM To: 'frame users group' Subject: RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice The Documentum documentation is pretty good, and I think they offer an end user guide that covers all the fundamentals as well as the basics of document management. Working with FrameMaker and DCTM is another thing altogether. There was an add-on application that helped but not sure if it's still in production (and can't recall the name at the moment either). HTH Gordon -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+gordon.mclean=grahamtechnology.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+gordon.mclean=grahamtechnology.com at lists.frameus ers. com] On Behalf Of Courtney Collins Sent: 08 August 2007 18:27 To: frame users group Subject: Documentum and FrameMaker advice My company just purchased documentum (in conjunction with another software program) and I am trying to find a quick and dirty way for us to get acclimated. Does anyone know of a good beginner's course or a "documentum for dummies" book that they can recommend? Thank you Courtney Collins Datascope This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Micheal.OLaoghaire at comverse.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/micheal.olaoghaire%4 0comverse.com Send admi
Documentum and FrameMaker advice
My company just purchased documentum (in conjunction with another software program) and I am trying to find a quick and dirty way for us to get acclimated. Does anyone know of a good beginner's course or a documentum for dummies book that they can recommend? Thank you Courtney Collins Datascope - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Documentum and FrameMaker advice
My company just purchased documentum (in conjunction with another software program) and I am trying to find a quick and dirty way for us to get acclimated. Does anyone know of a good beginner's course or a "documentum for dummies" book that they can recommend? Thank you Courtney Collins Datascope - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.