Re: FM 11/RH10 Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Lauriston 
Sounds like the HTML 5 layout is not compatible with WebHelp skins:

A screen layout has two key components, a set of screen layout pages
and a CSS. The screen layout pages define the content and the
structure. The CSS defines the layout and the skin.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/robohelp/robohtml/WS1b49059a33f77726-5d8e23a513606e3bbe2-7ffe.html

Do you have a compelling reason to use the brand-new and probably not
ready for prime-time HTML 5 layout?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Martinek, Carla cmarti...@zebra.com wrote:
 Ok, I realize now I’m probably off base with my question…  ugh. HTML5 and
 the WebHelp Pro output are not the same.  Looked at it in a different way
 and figured out where I was going wrong.

 So what I need is to create(modify) an HTML 5 desktop screen layout that
 uses one of the skins from the gallery… is that possible to define easily,
 or is it a major design from scratch issue?
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Re: FM 11/RH10 Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Robert, have you used the HTML5 layouts and found them less than satisfying?
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On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:Sounds like the HTML 5 layout is not compatible with WebHelp skins:"A screen layout has two key components, a set of screen layout pagesand a CSS. The screen layout pages define the content and thestructure. The CSS defines the layout and the skin."http://help.adobe.com/en_US/robohelp/robohtml/WS1b49059a33f77726-5d8e23a513606e3bbe2-7ffe.htmlDo you have a compelling reason to use the brand-new and probably notready for prime-time HTML 5 layout?On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Martinek, Carla cmarti...@zebra.com wrote:Ok, I realize now I’m probably off base with my question… ugh. HTML5 andthe WebHelp Pro output are not the same. Looked at it in a different wayand figured out where I was going wrong.So what I need is to create(modify) an HTML 5 desktop screen layout thatuses one of the skins from the gallery… is that possible to define easily,or is it a major design from scratch issue?___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Re: FM 11/RH10 Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Lauriston 
No, HTML 5 doesn't seem close to ready for prime time to me, at least
if you have a lot of users on MSIE.

Plus after evaluating RoboHelp 10 I decided to switch to WebWorks
ePublisher. Though I'm not going to use its HTML5 output any time
soon, either.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Matt Sullivan m...@mattrsullivan.com wrote:

 Robert, have you used the HTML5 layouts and found them less than satisfying?
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FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-25 Thread Matt Sullivan 
Robert, have you used the HTML5 layouts and found them less than satisfying?



-Matt

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On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Robert Lauriston  wrote:

> Sounds like the HTML 5 layout is not compatible with WebHelp skins:
> 
> "A screen layout has two key components, a set of screen layout pages
> and a CSS. The screen layout pages define the content and the
> structure. The CSS defines the layout and the skin."
> 
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/robohelp/robohtml/WS1b49059a33f77726-5d8e23a513606e3bbe2-7ffe.html
> 
> Do you have a compelling reason to use the brand-new and probably not
> ready for prime-time HTML 5 layout?
> 
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Martinek, Carla  
> wrote:
>> Ok, I realize now I?m probably off base with my question?  ugh. HTML5 and
>> the WebHelp Pro output are not the same.  Looked at it in a different way
>> and figured out where I was going wrong.
>> 
>> So what I need is to create(modify) an HTML 5 desktop screen layout that
>> uses one of the skins from the gallery? is that possible to define easily,
>> or is it a major design from scratch issue?
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FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Lauriston 
No, HTML 5 doesn't seem close to ready for prime time to me, at least
if you have a lot of users on MSIE.

Plus after evaluating RoboHelp 10 I decided to switch to WebWorks
ePublisher. Though I'm not going to use its HTML5 output any time
soon, either.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Matt Sullivan  
wrote:
>
> Robert, have you used the HTML5 layouts and found them less than satisfying?

FM 11/RH10 Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-24 Thread Martinek, Carla 
Ok, I've been trying to find this answer in the RoboHelp and FrameMaker help 
all morning, and not having any luck, so I'll throw it out to the group. It's 
been a decade-plus since I worked in RoboHelp, so don't remember much. My 
source content is in FM11.

I know what I want to do, just not how to make it happen. I want to use one of 
the skins that shipped with RH10 in the Multiscreen HTML 5 output (for the 
WebHelp/Desktop output). I was able to create an individual WebHelp_Pro layout 
using my preferred skin, but cannot for the life of me figure out how/where to 
edit the default Multiscreen HTML 5 Desktop output/layout to use that same 
skin. How/where do I go in RH to make that change?

Once I know how to change one of the output layouts in the Multiscreen layout, 
I can change the other layouts as desired. Once back in FM 11  I can easily 
select the correct project template when I want to publish the document from 
there.

I know this has to be fairly simply, but its escaping me.

Thx
Carla





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RE: FM 11/RH10 Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-24 Thread Martinek, Carla 
Ok, I realize now I'm probably off base with my question...  ugh. HTML5 and the 
WebHelp Pro output are not the same.  Looked at it in a different way and 
figured out where I was going wrong.

So what I need is to create(modify) an HTML 5 desktop screen layout that uses 
one of the skins from the gallery... is that possible to define easily, or is 
it a major design from scratch issue?

Thanks to grainge.org for clearing up some things for me between the skins and 
screen layouts.

http://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh_tour/rh10_new/multiscreen/rh10_multiscreen.htm

-Carla


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM 11/RH10  Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default 
Desktop output

Ok, I've been trying to find this answer in the RoboHelp and FrameMaker help 
all morning, and not having any luck, so I'll throw it out to the group. It's 
been a decade-plus since I worked in RoboHelp, so don't remember much. My 
source content is in FM11.

I know what I want to do, just not how to make it happen. I want to use one of 
the skins that shipped with RH10 in the Multiscreen HTML 5 output (for the 
WebHelp/Desktop output). I was able to create an individual WebHelp_Pro layout 
using my preferred skin, but cannot for the life of me figure out how/where to 
edit the default Multiscreen HTML 5 Desktop output/layout to use that same 
skin. How/where do I go in RH to make that change?

Once I know how to change one of the output layouts in the Multiscreen layout, 
I can change the other layouts as desired. Once back in FM 11  I can easily 
select the correct project template when I want to publish the document from 
there.

I know this has to be fairly simply, but its escaping me.

Thx
Carla





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RE: FM 11/RH10 Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-24 Thread Jeff Coatsworth 
Have you been looking in the HTML5 Multiscreen forum? Another resource you 
might want to check out is Willam van Weelden's site (www.wvanweelden.eu)

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: April-24-13 12:58 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 11/RH10  Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the 
default Desktop output

Ok, I realize now I'm probably off base with my question...  ugh. HTML5 and the 
WebHelp Pro output are not the same.  Looked at it in a different way and 
figured out where I was going wrong.
So what I need is to create(modify) an HTML 5 desktop screen layout that uses 
one of the skins from the gallery... is that possible to define easily, or is 
it a major design from scratch issue?

Thanks to grainge.org for clearing up some things for me between the skins and 
screen layouts.

http://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh_tour/rh10_new/multiscreen/rh10_multiscreen.htm

-Carla


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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM 11/RH10  Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default 
Desktop output

Ok, I've been trying to find this answer in the RoboHelp and FrameMaker help 
all morning, and not having any luck, so I'll throw it out to the group. It's 
been a decade-plus since I worked in RoboHelp, so don't remember much. My 
source content is in FM11.

I know what I want to do, just not how to make it happen. I want to use one of 
the skins that shipped with RH10 in the Multiscreen HTML 5 output (for the 
WebHelp/Desktop output). I was able to create an individual WebHelp_Pro layout 
using my preferred skin, but cannot for the life of me figure out how/where to 
edit the default Multiscreen HTML 5 Desktop output/layout to use that same 
skin. How/where do I go in RH to make that change?

Once I know how to change one of the output layouts in the Multiscreen layout, 
I can change the other layouts as desired. Once back in FM 11  I can easily 
select the correct project template when I want to publish the document from 
there.

I know this has to be fairly simply, but its escaping me.

Thx
Carla





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FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-24 Thread Martinek, Carla 
Ok, I've been trying to find this answer in the RoboHelp and FrameMaker help 
all morning, and not having any luck, so I'll throw it out to the group. It's 
been a decade-plus since I worked in RoboHelp, so don't remember much. My 
source content is in FM11.

I know what I want to do, just not how to make it happen. I want to use one of 
the skins that shipped with RH10 in the Multiscreen HTML 5 output (for the 
WebHelp/Desktop output). I was able to create an individual WebHelp_Pro layout 
using my preferred skin, but cannot for the life of me figure out how/where to 
edit the default Multiscreen HTML 5 Desktop output/layout to use that same 
skin. How/where do I go in RH to make that change?

Once I know how to change one of the output layouts in the Multiscreen layout, 
I can change the other layouts as desired. Once back in FM 11  I can easily 
select the correct project template when I want to publish the document from 
there.

I know this has to be fairly simply, but its escaping me.

Thx
Carla





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FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-24 Thread Martinek, Carla 
Ok, I realize now I'm probably off base with my question...  ugh. HTML5 and the 
WebHelp Pro output are not the same.  Looked at it in a different way and 
figured out where I was going wrong.

So what I need is to create(modify) an HTML 5 desktop screen layout that uses 
one of the skins from the gallery... is that possible to define easily, or is 
it a major design from scratch issue?

Thanks to grainge.org for clearing up some things for me between the skins and 
screen layouts.

http://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh_tour/rh10_new/multiscreen/rh10_multiscreen.htm

-Carla


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:38 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default 
Desktop output

Ok, I've been trying to find this answer in the RoboHelp and FrameMaker help 
all morning, and not having any luck, so I'll throw it out to the group. It's 
been a decade-plus since I worked in RoboHelp, so don't remember much. My 
source content is in FM11.

I know what I want to do, just not how to make it happen. I want to use one of 
the skins that shipped with RH10 in the Multiscreen HTML 5 output (for the 
WebHelp/Desktop output). I was able to create an individual WebHelp_Pro layout 
using my preferred skin, but cannot for the life of me figure out how/where to 
edit the default Multiscreen HTML 5 Desktop output/layout to use that same 
skin. How/where do I go in RH to make that change?

Once I know how to change one of the output layouts in the Multiscreen layout, 
I can change the other layouts as desired. Once back in FM 11  I can easily 
select the correct project template when I want to publish the document from 
there.

I know this has to be fairly simply, but its escaping me.

Thx
Carla





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FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-24 Thread Jeff Coatsworth 
Have you been looking in the HTML5 Multiscreen forum? Another resource you 
might want to check out is Willam van Weelden's site (www.wvanweelden.eu)

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: April-24-13 12:58 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the 
default Desktop output

Ok, I realize now I'm probably off base with my question...  ugh. HTML5 and the 
WebHelp Pro output are not the same.  Looked at it in a different way and 
figured out where I was going wrong.
So what I need is to create(modify) an HTML 5 desktop screen layout that uses 
one of the skins from the gallery... is that possible to define easily, or is 
it a major design from scratch issue?

Thanks to grainge.org for clearing up some things for me between the skins and 
screen layouts.

http://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh_tour/rh10_new/multiscreen/rh10_multiscreen.htm

-Carla


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Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:38 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default 
Desktop output

Ok, I've been trying to find this answer in the RoboHelp and FrameMaker help 
all morning, and not having any luck, so I'll throw it out to the group. It's 
been a decade-plus since I worked in RoboHelp, so don't remember much. My 
source content is in FM11.

I know what I want to do, just not how to make it happen. I want to use one of 
the skins that shipped with RH10 in the Multiscreen HTML 5 output (for the 
WebHelp/Desktop output). I was able to create an individual WebHelp_Pro layout 
using my preferred skin, but cannot for the life of me figure out how/where to 
edit the default Multiscreen HTML 5 Desktop output/layout to use that same 
skin. How/where do I go in RH to make that change?

Once I know how to change one of the output layouts in the Multiscreen layout, 
I can change the other layouts as desired. Once back in FM 11  I can easily 
select the correct project template when I want to publish the document from 
there.

I know this has to be fairly simply, but its escaping me.

Thx
Carla





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FM 11/RH10 > Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default Desktop output

2013-04-24 Thread Robert Lauriston 
Sounds like the HTML 5 layout is not compatible with WebHelp skins:

"A screen layout has two key components, a set of screen layout pages
and a CSS. The screen layout pages define the content and the
structure. The CSS defines the layout and the skin."

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/robohelp/robohtml/WS1b49059a33f77726-5d8e23a513606e3bbe2-7ffe.html

Do you have a compelling reason to use the brand-new and probably not
ready for prime-time HTML 5 layout?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Martinek, Carla  wrote:
> Ok, I realize now I?m probably off base with my question?  ugh. HTML5 and
> the WebHelp Pro output are not the same.  Looked at it in a different way
> and figured out where I was going wrong.
>
> So what I need is to create(modify) an HTML 5 desktop screen layout that
> uses one of the skins from the gallery? is that possible to define easily,
> or is it a major design from scratch issue?