FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
At 07:10 PM 28/05/2009, Yves Barbion wrote: >Hi Helen > >(I'll make sure to use the spell-checker this time.;-)) The spell-checker spelled flawlessly. :-D Thanks for that response - it is *exactly* what I wanted to know. cheers, Helen
FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
Hi Helen (I'll make sure to use the spell-checker this time.;-)) I have FrameMaker 6, 7.2, 8 and 9 living in peaceful coexistence with Acrobat 3D 8.1.3 on my computer (Windows XP, SP3). I can do a "Save as PDF" from any FrameMaker version without any problems. DITA to PDF works fine too. There have been some posts about the FrameMaker and Acrobat issue before on this list and you can take Dov Isaac's advice on this. You can find his comments below. To summarize them: - Uninstall any other previous versions of Acrobat or Reader on your system, make sure to reboot, and then install Acrobat 8 Pro. - If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8. - If you are prompted to reboot your system after any uninstalls or after installing Acrobat 8, be sure to do so. The installation process depends on your doing that reboot immediately. I don't think the installation order (FrameMaker or Acrobat first) matters anymore. These are Dov's comments: _ It is NOT FrameMaker 8 which is the problem or that has to be installed, it is that separate headless version of Distiller 8 that you let the FrameMaker 8 installer put on your system. Uninstall that and/or any other previous versions of Acrobat or Reader on your system, make sure to reboot, and then install Acrobat 8 Pro. If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8! If you let FrameMaker's install perform the installation of the stand-alone Distiller, make absolutely sure you UNINSTALL that version of Distiller and reboot before attempting to install any version of Acrobat! In reality, it should not make any difference what order you install Acrobat and FrameMaker with one caveat. If you are installing the full Acrobat product (which you are), you must NOT install the copy of Distiller bundled with FrameMaker. If you have already installed that bundled Distiller, you must totally uninstall it (and any other versions of Acrobat and/or Reader on your system) prior to installing Acrobat 8. If you are prompted to reboot your system after any uninstalls or after installing Acrobat 8, be sure to do so. The installation process depends on your doing that reboot immediately. Although this has not been a problem in recent versions of Acrobat, per the suggestion of another poster, you should make sure that the FILE: port is not missing from your system. To further complicate things, Acrobat 8 changed the location where .joboptions files are stored. Acrobat 7 stored the .joboptions files at "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe PDF\Settings". That is where FrameMaker looks for them. Acrobat 8 (actually Distiller 8) stores the bundled .joboptions files in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings" and each user's personalized .joboption files in "C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings" where "" is your Windows user id. For FrameMaker 7.2 to work directly with Distiller 8 with the "save as" feature, you must make sure that FrameMaker 7.2 "sees" all your joboptions in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe PDF\Settings". _ Good luck. -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89
FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
Yes, they can coexist nicely. Install FM8 first. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Helen Borrie wrote: > Hi List, > > Can FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8 coexist on the same machine? ?If so, which should > be installed first to ensure that one gets the full functionality of > Distiller from both applications? > > Before I started with the "8" versions I had the respective "6" versions > working happily side by side. ?So far, with both "6" versions out of the > picture I've encountered two weeks of horrible problems, including that the > uninstaller script for Acro 8 gets broken by the updates (specifically, the > Acro updates, as far as I can tell, with the bone pointing at 8.1.5). ?This > requires hours of pick-and-shovel effort in the Registry and the filesystem > to clean out everything Adobe and start afresh. > > Currently I have achieved "partial" functionality by installing FM 8 first > (which is the only option to get Distiller installed) and then installing > only Reader 8 afterwards. ?I can get the updates to both without (touch > wood!) breaking stuff. ?However, I'm at a loss without the full Acro Pro > capabilities, at least until our legacy doc sources are converted to DITA, > because I still depend on the Sonar Bookends plug-in for post-processing > hot-links into the indexes of PDFs created with other tools. > > Any compatibility advice out there, gained from actual experience? > > Or should I just sigh and accept that I'll need to keep a legacy FM6 + Acro > Pro 6 setup on another box? > > Thanks, and apologies in advance for this being a bit OT. > > Helen > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommdood at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
Hi List, Can FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8 coexist on the same machine? If so, which should be installed first to ensure that one gets the full functionality of Distiller from both applications? Before I started with the "8" versions I had the respective "6" versions working happily side by side. So far, with both "6" versions out of the picture I've encountered two weeks of horrible problems, including that the uninstaller script for Acro 8 gets broken by the updates (specifically, the Acro updates, as far as I can tell, with the bone pointing at 8.1.5). This requires hours of pick-and-shovel effort in the Registry and the filesystem to clean out everything Adobe and start afresh. Currently I have achieved "partial" functionality by installing FM 8 first (which is the only option to get Distiller installed) and then installing only Reader 8 afterwards. I can get the updates to both without (touch wood!) breaking stuff. However, I'm at a loss without the full Acro Pro capabilities, at least until our legacy doc sources are converted to DITA, because I still depend on the Sonar Bookends plug-in for post-processing hot-links into the indexes of PDFs created with other tools. Any compatibility advice out there, gained from actual experience? Or should I just sigh and accept that I'll need to keep a legacy FM6 + Acro Pro 6 setup on another box? Thanks, and apologies in advance for this being a bit OT. Helen
FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
In addition to Yves' and Dov's accurate comments and advice, what struck me about your post is that you might have run the same machine without a rebuild for a long period of time. I always think that's a good idea to rebuild a system every two or three years because they simply get clogged with drek left over from installs and uninstalls, new software, updates, and changes from routine operation. If it's been a long time since you did a rebuild, you should consider doing it now because you're already in the midst of a major overhaul. It'll pay dividends by giving you a clean, faster system. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Helen Borrie wrote: > At 07:10 PM 28/05/2009, Yves Barbion wrote: >>Hi Helen >> >>(I'll make sure to use the spell-checker this time.;-)) > > The spell-checker spelled flawlessly. :-D > > Thanks for that response - it is *exactly* what I wanted to know. > > cheers, > Helen > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
Yes, they can coexist nicely. Install FM8 first. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Helen Borrie wrote: > Hi List, > > Can FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8 coexist on the same machine? If so, which should > be installed first to ensure that one gets the full functionality of > Distiller from both applications? > > Before I started with the "8" versions I had the respective "6" versions > working happily side by side. So far, with both "6" versions out of the > picture I've encountered two weeks of horrible problems, including that the > uninstaller script for Acro 8 gets broken by the updates (specifically, the > Acro updates, as far as I can tell, with the bone pointing at 8.1.5). This > requires hours of pick-and-shovel effort in the Registry and the filesystem > to clean out everything Adobe and start afresh. > > Currently I have achieved "partial" functionality by installing FM 8 first > (which is the only option to get Distiller installed) and then installing > only Reader 8 afterwards. I can get the updates to both without (touch > wood!) breaking stuff. However, I'm at a loss without the full Acro Pro > capabilities, at least until our legacy doc sources are converted to DITA, > because I still depend on the Sonar Bookends plug-in for post-processing > hot-links into the indexes of PDFs created with other tools. > > Any compatibility advice out there, gained from actual experience? > > Or should I just sigh and accept that I'll need to keep a legacy FM6 + Acro > Pro 6 setup on another box? > > Thanks, and apologies in advance for this being a bit OT. > > Helen > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommd...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
In addition to Yves' and Dov's accurate comments and advice, what struck me about your post is that you might have run the same machine without a rebuild for a long period of time. I always think that's a good idea to rebuild a system every two or three years because they simply get clogged with drek left over from installs and uninstalls, new software, updates, and changes from routine operation. If it's been a long time since you did a rebuild, you should consider doing it now because you're already in the midst of a major overhaul. It'll pay dividends by giving you a clean, faster system. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Helen Borrie wrote: > At 07:10 PM 28/05/2009, Yves Barbion wrote: >>Hi Helen >> >>(I'll make sure to use the spell-checker this time.;-)) > > The spell-checker spelled flawlessly. :-D > > Thanks for that response - it is *exactly* what I wanted to know. > > cheers, > Helen > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
At 07:10 PM 28/05/2009, Yves Barbion wrote: >Hi Helen > >(I'll make sure to use the spell-checker this time.;-)) The spell-checker spelled flawlessly. :-D Thanks for that response - it is *exactly* what I wanted to know. cheers, Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
Hi Helen (I'll make sure to use the spell-checker this time.;-)) I have FrameMaker 6, 7.2, 8 and 9 living in peaceful coexistence with Acrobat 3D 8.1.3 on my computer (Windows XP, SP3). I can do a "Save as PDF" from any FrameMaker version without any problems. DITA to PDF works fine too. There have been some posts about the FrameMaker and Acrobat issue before on this list and you can take Dov Isaac's advice on this. You can find his comments below. To summarize them: - Uninstall any other previous versions of Acrobat or Reader on your system, make sure to reboot, and then install Acrobat 8 Pro. - If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8. - If you are prompted to reboot your system after any uninstalls or after installing Acrobat 8, be sure to do so. The installation process depends on your doing that reboot immediately. I don't think the installation order (FrameMaker or Acrobat first) matters anymore. These are Dov's comments: _ It is NOT FrameMaker 8 which is the problem or that has to be installed, it is that separate headless version of Distiller 8 that you let the FrameMaker 8 installer put on your system. Uninstall that and/or any other previous versions of Acrobat or Reader on your system, make sure to reboot, and then install Acrobat 8 Pro. If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8! If you let FrameMaker's install perform the installation of the stand-alone Distiller, make absolutely sure you UNINSTALL that version of Distiller and reboot before attempting to install any version of Acrobat! In reality, it should not make any difference what order you install Acrobat and FrameMaker with one caveat. If you are installing the full Acrobat product (which you are), you must NOT install the copy of Distiller bundled with FrameMaker. If you have already installed that bundled Distiller, you must totally uninstall it (and any other versions of Acrobat and/or Reader on your system) prior to installing Acrobat 8. If you are prompted to reboot your system after any uninstalls or after installing Acrobat 8, be sure to do so. The installation process depends on your doing that reboot immediately. Although this has not been a problem in recent versions of Acrobat, per the suggestion of another poster, you should make sure that the FILE: port is not missing from your system. To further complicate things, Acrobat 8 changed the location where .joboptions files are stored. Acrobat 7 stored the .joboptions files at "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe PDF\Settings". That is where FrameMaker looks for them. Acrobat 8 (actually Distiller 8) stores the bundled .joboptions files in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings" and each user's personalized .joboption files in "C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings" where "" is your Windows user id. For FrameMaker 7.2 to work directly with Distiller 8 with the "save as" feature, you must make sure that FrameMaker 7.2 "sees" all your joboptions in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe PDF\Settings". _ Good luck. -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8
Hi List, Can FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8 coexist on the same machine? If so, which should be installed first to ensure that one gets the full functionality of Distiller from both applications? Before I started with the "8" versions I had the respective "6" versions working happily side by side. So far, with both "6" versions out of the picture I've encountered two weeks of horrible problems, including that the uninstaller script for Acro 8 gets broken by the updates (specifically, the Acro updates, as far as I can tell, with the bone pointing at 8.1.5). This requires hours of pick-and-shovel effort in the Registry and the filesystem to clean out everything Adobe and start afresh. Currently I have achieved "partial" functionality by installing FM 8 first (which is the only option to get Distiller installed) and then installing only Reader 8 afterwards. I can get the updates to both without (touch wood!) breaking stuff. However, I'm at a loss without the full Acro Pro capabilities, at least until our legacy doc sources are converted to DITA, because I still depend on the Sonar Bookends plug-in for post-processing hot-links into the indexes of PDFs created with other tools. Any compatibility advice out there, gained from actual experience? Or should I just sigh and accept that I'll need to keep a legacy FM6 + Acro Pro 6 setup on another box? Thanks, and apologies in advance for this being a bit OT. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
